Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
PDF is a vector format derived from PostScript. If you had the original document file, not a scan, then saving it into PDF would be a good idea. The PDF would contain the font information, the text (coded as ASCII or UTF), and geometry infomation about how the text is positioned on the page. While a PDF can contain another file format, like TIFF or JPEG, you are not accomplishing anything useful by doing that. You are just wrapping one file format around a different file format. Double wrapping may be good for the freezer, but for digital data it accomplishes nothing useful. You're overthinking this exercise. Perhaps to you, a graphics person, this data is important. To the average user who just needs the document, they don't care about this metadata if they expect it in read-only form. I haven't cared a bit about the font information in any contract or other form I've received as a pdf and no one has ever complained about a scanned pdf I've sent them. They just want what's in the document itself. It's a good, compact and portable format that most people know what to do with. Few people outside of graphics departments have encountered a tiff; even fewer know what to do with it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
then shop Costco or BJ's. they are so much better. i think you will have much difficulty living and shopping in USA and not finding the same porblems. what percentage of your beloved MAC products are produced offshore, by slave labor? At 11:49 PM 1/28/2009, you wrote: b_s-wilk wrote: I don't shop at Sam's club, since it's owned by evil trolls. ? Please elucidate. Sam's Club is owned by Walmart. Since Sam Walton died Walmart has been the epitome of a bad neighbor. They get tax breaks from local communities, often paying no local tax, sell products below cost until the competition goes out of business, mislabel products as 'made in US' when they're imported [not from US territories either], make employees work off the clock, fire employees who want to have a union, and underpay their employees so badly that many have to apply for food stamps and state health care programs. Worst, the Waltons, Alice Walton in particular, has been spending $millions for lobbying to repeal the estate tax so they can keep all of their +$80 billions and not pay for the resources that gave Sam Walton the opportunity to build his company in the first place. Sorry, Stewart, et al, that you don't have choices where you live. Sometimes we don't either. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Of course, now that Adobe has opened up the pdf format, this may change. But for now, it's just not an editing format. I agree that PDF is not an editing format. But it was never really intended to be, it was intended to be a fixed presentation format. Also, while it is only recently that PDF became a published ISO open standard, it has been open since soon after its inception. The first version of Acrobat did not sell well and had stiff competition, so Adobe gave away Acrobat Reader and granted royalty free use to anyone who made applications to read or edit PDF documents as a way to sell more copies of Acrobat. This is why OS X has been able to have a built-in PDF engine from the beginning, and why OpenOffice, StarOffice, and TeX mathematical typesetting applications have had the ability to write their output to PDF for quite a while now. OS X's print to PDF feature is great, by the way. I use it regularly when sending documents that the recipient doesn't need to edit because that way I don't have to worry whether or not they can read it. Leopard gained the ability for PDF's to have working hyperlinks, at least for PDF's produced from Apple applications. I know it's not as good as Acrobat, but it's good enough for me, and it's free with the OS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves Digital TV Delay
the mall is one of the showplaces of the estates united. the mall has been an embarrassment for the past couple of years. no reason to maintain the mall, the whitehouse or lawn the capitol grounds, ect, as the usa has been a tremendous embarrassment to itself for quite a number of years. other countries seem to be able to find the money to do proper landscaping. At 01:32 AM 1/29/2009, you wrote: I disagree. I visited the mall this summer, and it needed to be resodded then. It's not a worthwhile expenditure for Congress, but worthwhile for the tourist industry and provides jobs. Resodding the mall (wrecked by the wonderful outpouring of support for the inauguration) may well be a worthwhile expenditure for congress, but not in an emergency economic and job stimulation package. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
You know, I really wonder how I seem to stay profitable and have zero employee turnover. I really ought to get into a line of work that doesn't really need all these highly skilled career professionals that I'm competing for. A couple of years ago I listened to an interview with the president of BJ's on this topic. They are in a similar business to Sam's/WalMart, but have a very different business model in regards to their employees. BJ's managers concluded that paying better wages and taking better care of employees would more than pay for itself in higher productivity from lower turnover. He sounded very much like you, wondering about Sam's/WalMart very different decision. We see decisions like this all the time in business. Circuit City fired all their experienced staff a little over a year ago. I opined here that this would lead to their downfall. It did. Some managers even think that saving a few $100 on cheap PCs instead of getting highly-productive Macs is good management. Hard to believe, but true. It does seem to work for WalMart. To understand why you need to look more broadly. WalMart is profiting from loopholes in the system. They aggressively shift costs to the government and local communities. It is sort of like the economic equivalent of pollution. The reason pollution pays is that the polluter is not made to pay the full cost of their actions. The community pays. The polluter profits. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
I have another take on the .pdf's, and take some issue with Tom. I have scanned my letterhead to a pretty high resolution .tif file. I can then type in photoshop my correspondance, then convert to .pdf - clunky, but it works. Files go from 37mb down to a manageable 500kb for e-mail. I am therefore sending a text document that starts as a graphic, and looks great on the screen - even prints well. This also is a way to preserve foreign diacriticals. Which brings up a problem I've had: my Acrobat resists copying those diacriticals from webpages; I've tried through Distiller to get them into the program, without luck. Would appreciate any advice on this. --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 8:33 AM PDF is a vector format derived from PostScript. If you had the original document file, not a scan, then saving it into PDF would be a good idea. The PDF would contain the font information, the text (coded as ASCII or UTF), and geometry infomation about how the text is positioned on the page. While a PDF can contain another file format, like TIFF or JPEG, you are not accomplishing anything useful by doing that. You are just wrapping one file format around a different file format. Double wrapping may be good for the freezer, but for digital data it accomplishes nothing useful. You're overthinking this exercise. Perhaps to you, a graphics person, this data is important. To the average user who just needs the document, they don't care about this metadata if they expect it in read-only form. I haven't cared a bit about the font information in any contract or other form I've received as a pdf and no one has ever complained about a scanned pdf I've sent them. They just want what's in the document itself. It's a good, compact and portable format that most people know what to do with. Few people outside of graphics departments have encountered a tiff; even fewer know what to do with it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
the mall is one of the showplaces of the estates united. the mall has been an embarrassment for the past couple of years. no reason to maintain the mall, the whitehouse or lawn the capitol grounds, ect, as the usa has been a tremendous embarrassment to itself for quite a number of years. other countries seem to be able to find the money to do proper landscaping. Thanks for pointing this out. When I arrived in DC (when Ford was President). The Mall was in acceptable shape. While not up to the standards of a Western European capitol, it was not crummy. Then the Mall fell into the hands of Ronald Reagan and James Watt. The grass died. The gravel disappeared from the pathways. The ground became swampy. It reminded me of what East Berlin looked like under Soviet rule. We were clearly under the control of a hostile occupying power: the neocons. To get back on topic: such mis-rule is also the reason why we don't have good broadband and why the computer industry remains in the clutches of a predatory monopolist. The rulers didn't care about good administration. They profit, we suffer. Should fixing the Mall be part of a job stimulation package? Well it would create a bunch of jobs quickly. Most of the people who did the work would quickly spend the money because they are poor people living hand to mouth. This kind of spending would support local businessed and quickly reverberate through the local economy. In economic terms such spending has a high multiplier. That means that a dollar of input creates several dollars of economic activity. Tax cuts have a lower multiplier. Giving more money to Halliburton has a lower multiplier. The science of economics favors fixing the Mall and similar projects. Not living in squalor could also improve national pride and lift people's spirits. That has a high multiplier too. Same is true for broadband. Same is true for fighting monopolists. The neocons want no part of this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cordless phone battery question
800's will work fine, if they fit in the space. there are a lot of counterfeit batteries out there. the counterfeit Nokia batteries even come with the nokia holo. batteries need cobalt to be high quailty. cobalt is expensive. cheap batteries = no cobalt. other than buying directly from mfgr, i do not know how to avoid this problem. i bought a nokia for my cell phone off of ebay. looks like a duck, smells like a duck, runs like a turkey. seems to hold about half the charge. in a cordless phone, almost any battery life will be adequate, so i would just buy off of ebay from someone with a high rating. At 09:24 PM 1/28/2009, you wrote: Hate to ask another non-computer question, but figure this would be a good place to ask: Cordless phone battery keeps losing charge so want to replace it. Original is 3.6 v, 600Mah (for ATT, 2.4ghz phone/answering machine), but when I search for it online only or mostly finding ones that are 700 or 800 Mah. Can I replace with a higher Mah? Also, any suggestions on local (D.C. area) or online places to get cordless batteries inexpensively? Thanks again Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
I have another take on the .pdf's, and take some issue with Tom. I have scanned my letterhead to a pretty high resolution .tif file. I can then type in photoshop my correspondance, then convert to .pdf - clunky, but it works. Files go from 37mb down to a manageable 500kb for e-mail. I am therefore sending a text document that starts as a graphic, and looks great on the screen - even prints well. This also is a way to preserve foreign diacriticals. Here we return to a science vs sorcery situation. Files go from 37mb down to a manageable 500kb means that you have converted the scan to a lossy, highly compressed JPEG. Acrobat's default settings will do this so converting to PDF has this side effect. You could have just as well created a JPEG using a variety of other programs. Science give us control over our environment. Sorcery has us painting our faces blue to keep our computers from crashing. Which brings up a problem I've had: my Acrobat resists copying those diacriticals from webpages; I've tried through Distiller to get them into the program, without luck. Would appreciate any advice on this. You probably have font problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
It's a good, compact and portable format that most people know what to do with. Few people outside of graphics departments have encountered a tiff; even fewer know what to do with it. So when you have a computer problem do you simply conclude that the gods are no longer smiling and you have to go buy a new computer? This list is about finding out how things work or don't work in order to get a solution. If you don't know about scanner file formats you will never be in control over what happens. This list is not about being stupid. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves Digital TV Delay
There's bound to be a train wreck, whenever the switchover occurs. As someone who has always received his TV with a rooftop antenna, and who has an eleven year old analog set ($200 at Belmont-TV - which still delivers a beautiful picture), I have already made the conversion. The process would be elementary for any of the regular readers of this list, but there are a lot of people who are not technically inclined, and will not, not, not deal with things like this until they are forced to. This is in no way a criticism of those people - any country would have the same problem. Although we run into diminishing returns, the longer the switchover is delayed, the fewer who will scream bloody-murder because they've just lost their TV. Given that the current administration just came into office, if they can kick this problem down the road, who could blame them. Last and not least, part of the solution is going to involve people climbing on their roofs - something better done when the dangers of snow and ice have been removed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves Digital TV Delay
PBS, no favorite of the neocons, stood to lose $22M with a delay. The legislation did not require the stations to not switch. It merely relaxed the requirement that they do switch. If the station did not care about its audience it was free to switch at anytime. The law also allocated funds to compenstae stations for losses. Nope, that PBS story looks like pure BS. The Bush administration has stuffed PBS and CPB with neocon crooks. Recall the CPB director from a few years ago that billed them for more days than there were in the year, forced PBS to run bizarre neocon propaganda (whick got terrible ratings), and cancelled Bill Moyer's well-regarded show. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
The small picture being, apparently, what's good and not good about the OS. Do we really have to spell it out like that? And the big picture is the long-term strategy of the company, which in turn guides some of the small-picture choices it makes. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
most of the landscaper employees that i have seen have appearances of some Hispanic origin. pulling them all to the mall should give TSA an opportunity to hire dozens of new field agents to check papers. again, good for the economy. by the way, tom, have you ever been checked for citizenship? i have not. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
Something to realize...with over 90% of the market they aren't trying to lure any mac people, they are trying to lure those XP business users. Mac users, like Tom, are trying to keep the impression that 'win 7 looks like crap'... Did you even bother to read the review? After I installed Windows Vista in November 2006, I was perplexed. Why was it suddenly so much harder for me to use my computer? I knew XP cold, and I could use it without thinking. But with Vista, I felt a little lost and began to notice the extra work required to perform tasks that had become second nature. By hiding various features in an attempt to simplify Vista's interface, Microsoft was in fact adding overhead to my Vista transition, forcing me to learn a new UI. Like many, I just couldn't see how Vista's new look benefited the Windows experience. I became further entrenched in my belief that Microsoft's ongoing divergence from the well-established menu approach pioneered by Apple is fundamentally wrong. Microsoft Office -- and to a lesser extent Internet Explorer -- went nuts in this direction, relying on buttons, variable menus, and right-clicking for almost everything. These UIs made Vista's user interface appear intuitive by comparison, yet they also hinted at further UI confusion to come. It was as if Microsoft's strategy for UI design was to leave its customers at a loss for where to start or what to do next. Not surprisingly, users have rejected Microsoft's latest offerings in amazing numbers. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] pdf's was scanned
i think my windows programs are quite happy to open tiffs. i have received a number of pdfs that idiots create with word(?) i think, send them to me, then ask me to edit them. in the first place, it is a bastard form of pdf, and not happy to open. second place, i am not too good with distiller(yes i have it, does not everyone?), so i do not try to edit them. i do not know what the standards are, and how they are set up, but a lot of pdfs do not conform to adobe, and will not open. tifs will open in windows photo gallery and can be edited. they are transparent to the user. user probably does not know he is opening tif instead of gif or jpg. my understanding is that tif is one of the more efficient methods of file compression for pics. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall
the landscape area around the tidal basin is aggressively maintained. the beds are dug up at least 4 times a year and the plantings replaced. the spring bulbs are removed and dumped. i knew a landscaper who used to go to the dumping site and take whatever he wanted. i do not know about the rest of the plants. i do not know why this area is maintained and others are not. for an example of very high maintainance, just look at the plot in the center of Ohio drive between the 14th st bridge and 17th st. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
At 09:55 AM 1/29/2009, chad evans wyatt wrote: I have another take on the .pdf's, and take some issue with Tom. I have scanned my letterhead to a pretty high resolution .tif file. I can then type in photoshop my correspondance, then convert to .pdf - clunky, but it works. Files go from 37mb down to a manageable 500kb for e-mail. I am therefore sending a text document that starts as a graphic, and looks great on the screen - even prints well. This also is a way to preserve foreign diacriticals. Which brings up a problem I've had: my Acrobat resists copying those diacriticals from webpages; I've tried through Distiller to get them into the program, without luck. Would appreciate any advice on this. I don't have an answer, but it's probably a Windows problem. What typefaces does Adobe have/recognize? Is the typeface in the Adobe document identical to the typeface used in the web page? Can you get them identical with a setting somewhere? If the typeface that Adobe has used as a substitute for the typeface used in creating the original web page doesn't have the diacriticals in its stable of characters, then the problem you describe is likely to occur. I.e., don't try to import individual characters, try to import a typeface that has the necessary individual characters in its character set. You not only have to import the graphic of the required character, but you would have to assign the correct Unicode value to it. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
OS X's print to PDF feature is great, by the way. I use it regularly when sending documents that the recipient doesn't need to edit because that way I don't have to worry whether or not they can read it. Leopard gained the ability for PDF's to have working hyperlinks, at least for PDF's produced from Apple applications. I know it's not as good as Acrobat, but it's good enough for me, and it's free with the OS. Office 2007 has this feature now, as a free add-on. It's great to have this option, as we've depended on PDFCreator until now. What's even nicer is that it seems to be a better engine than the open-source PDFCreator. I had someone who had created a ~90 MB Word 2003 document, filled with photos. It took about 10 minutes for PDFCreator to create a 25 MB pdf, while Word 2007 knocked it down to about 3 MB in about 20 seconds. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
This list is not about being stupid. I couldn't agree more. Doing things the way we've always done it and expecting everyone else to conform to your expectations is quite stupid. I prefer to use what works for non-techies so they can go about their day, unconcerned with the sausage making, rather than what the self-proclaimed experts deem the right way. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
um...yes I did. What I had to say did not challenge what was said in the review at all. Also to be correct, Office 2007 received warm reviews from almost every corner because of the new UI, not in spite of. It would be difficult for you to argue that you aren't trying to keep a negative impression going with win 7 from vista since you've said it's crap and you've never even seen it yourself. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Something to realize...with over 90% of the market they aren't trying to lure any mac people, they are trying to lure those XP business users. Mac users, like Tom, are trying to keep the impression that 'win 7 looks like crap'... Did you even bother to read the review? After I installed Windows Vista in November 2006, I was perplexed. Why was it suddenly so much harder for me to use my computer? I knew XP cold, and I could use it without thinking. But with Vista, I felt a little lost and began to notice the extra work required to perform tasks that had become second nature. By hiding various features in an attempt to simplify Vista's interface, Microsoft was in fact adding overhead to my Vista transition, forcing me to learn a new UI. Like many, I just couldn't see how Vista's new look benefited the Windows experience. I became further entrenched in my belief that Microsoft's ongoing divergence from the well-established menu approach pioneered by Apple is fundamentally wrong. Microsoft Office -- and to a lesser extent Internet Explorer -- went nuts in this direction, relying on buttons, variable menus, and right-clicking for almost everything. These UIs made Vista's user interface appear intuitive by comparison, yet they also hinted at further UI confusion to come. It was as if Microsoft's strategy for UI design was to leave its customers at a loss for where to start or what to do next. Not surprisingly, users have rejected Microsoft's latest offerings in amazing numbers. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
That is an excessively pessimistic response to the idea of repairing the Mall as one recovery project. I would not think that looking around for items of public importance that are suffering neglect is reckless, the way the post implies. An effective recovery package needs elements of both. Letting people keep more of their money seems to be a mantra for all seasons from the right. Does that idea ever get any rest? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Perhaps we should wreck the Mall on a monthly basis! Just think of how we could grow the economy, constantly rebuilding it. Even more, if we break all the windows in the the museums along the Mall too. But, heavens no, don't let people keep more of their money. They'll just bury it in old coffee cans in their back yard. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
during summer season, prior to the Cheney administration, the mall was damaged daily. not only did people walk on it, but there were about 50 softball games a day, daily volleyball, rugby, soccer,basketball and whatever else needed a field. weekly there was a polo(yeah, with real horses). They still allowed and still do, in addition to that, the smithsonian positively destroyed the place for a couple weeks or a month with some silly festival. also a major activity or two every month(opera, 4th of july, gathering for/against abortions, etc) if they would have only known, and paved that thing from wall to wall when they had the chance. would have been very cost effective. Perhaps we should wreck the Mall on a monthly basis! Just think of how we could grow the economy, constantly rebuilding it. Even more, if we break all the windows in the the museums along the Mall too. But, heavens no, don't let people keep more of their money. They'll just bury it in old coffee cans in their back yard. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
during summer season, prior to the Cheney administration, the mall was damaged daily. not only did people walk on it, but there were about 50 softball games a day, daily volleyball, rugby, soccer,basketball and whatever else needed a field. weekly there was a polo(yeah, with real horses). I think you have hit on a plan the neocons will go for. We'll fix up the mall and then not let anybody use it. Or maybe limit use to the very rich and politically connected. We can use some of the left-over fencing from the Mexican border and ship in some border guards to keep the riff-raff off the grass. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Save to PDF?, was Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Do you mean Save as PDF ? When I last used this feature on a Pages version 3.0.2 wp document, it saved the PDF in a hug font, larger than the original Pages wp document. I thought pdfs were to preserve the look of the original. What did I do wrong? OS X's print to PDF feature is great, by the way. I use it regularly when sending documents that the recipient doesn't need to edit because that way I don't have to worry whether or not they can read it. Leopard gained the ability for PDF's to have working hyperlinks, at least for PDF's produced from Apple applications. I know it's not as good as Acrobat, but it's good enough for me, and it's free with the OS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Slave labor, was Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
What percentage of everything you consume is produced offshore by slave labor ? What do you think your Nikes (anywhere) and Kathy Lee Gifford $20 skirts (Walmart) would cost without it? Would you be willing to pay the true cost of such items when made by well-paid workers? Clearly, you've never been in Asia, where slave labor provides money to families who would otherwise lack it or otherwise starve or sell their children into the sex trade of the slums as an alternative. what percentage of your beloved MAC products are produced offshore, by slave labor? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
I prefer to use what works for non-techies so they can go about their day, unconcerned with the sausage making, rather than what the self-proclaimed experts deem the right way. At least you are consistent. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] pdf's was scanned
tifs will open in windows photo gallery and can be edited. they are transparent to the user. user probably does not know he is opening tif instead of gif or jpg. my understanding is that tif is one of the more efficient methods of file compression for pics. I find the best rule is to not make anything more complicated than it needs to be. PDF, as you explaind so well, is not at all simple. It takes much study to figure out what Acrobat/Distiller are doing, Acrobat/Distiller has many, many options, and Adobe keeps changing Acrobat/Distiller's features and how they work. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall
for an example of very high maintainance, just look at the plot in the center of Ohio drive between the 14th st bridge and 17th st. Good question. That small plot of land does look so much better than the rest of the Mall. Perhaps it is maintained by Treasury because it is across the street from their buildings? Some of the land near the Smithsonian museums used to get better care too, but no longer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
by the way, tom, have you ever been checked for citizenship? i have not. How do you know that? I bet you have. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] measurementlab.net
Google has teamed with others to provide a test suite and 36 globally-dispersed servers for testing internet performance. The goal is to make it transparent if your ISP is messing with your traffic. This is still early stage and it is bogged because everyone is giving it a try. I'm in the cue now (2250 seconds to go). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Slave labor, was Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
Clearly, you've never been in Asia, where slave labor provides money to families who would otherwise lack it or otherwise starve or sell their children into the sex trade of the slums as an alternative. i do believe tom's neocon would want to know what was wrong with that picture, and could not the family still make product, and sell the hotties into sex trade. that was the business of Jack Abromov and The Hammer deLay. dig around a bit on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Islands Marianahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Islands Islands work practices. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Harrware recommendations for video editing
We already have the full Final Cut suite (please don't ask why we bought the software before the hardware-wasn't my decision), I'd like to get some suggestions for hardware. Hopefully, we can keep this under $10,000. Doesn't have to be top of the line, but definitely more than a basic model. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 dt...@indianahistory.org * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
That is an excessively pessimistic response to the idea of repairing the Mall as one recovery project. I would not think that looking around for items of public importance that are suffering neglect is reckless, the way the post implies. Not at all. There is a distinct difference in saying that the Mall needs repair and saying that the Mall needs repair and should be done so as part of a stimulus package. If the Mall didn't need repair, should we destroy it in order to create jobs? An effective recovery package needs elements of both. Letting people keep more of their money seems to be a mantra for all seasons from the right. Does that idea ever get any rest? Of course, the government obviously knows much better what should be done with my money than I do. I'll just do silly things like save it, invest it or spend it on consumer goods and services. We now know those are all losers for ideas as economies go. Giving it to incompetent financial institutions and auto mfrs, instead of the competent ones, is clearly something I wouldn't do and needs to be corrected. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
I didn't have that problem...neither did my non-computer oriented wife. Under this scenario, no one should switch from windows to mac, how will they figure it out? On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: You did not answer the reviewer's question... After I installed Windows Vista in November 2006, I was perplexed. Why was it suddenly so much harder for me to use my computer?... It was as if Microsoft's strategy for UI design was to leave its customers at a loss for where to start or what to do next. The world wants to know! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Who is John Galt? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Tom Piwowar wrote: This list is not about being stupid. Damn! I knew I was in the wrong place! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
So recovery projects should not include a criteria for Things that are Important to us (and that need repair)? What should the criteria be? So are you proposing that by keeping all of Your Money, you will do a better job at recovery than the gov't? I didn't get much from the 2nd paragraph except that you don't care much for how or what the gov't does and that you want to keep Your Money. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- That is an excessively pessimistic response to the idea of repairing the Mall as one recovery project. I would not think that looking around for items of public importance that are suffering neglect is reckless, the way the post implies. Not at all. There is a distinct difference in saying that the Mall needs repair and saying that the Mall needs repair and should be done so as part of a stimulus package. If the Mall didn't need repair, should we destroy it in order to create jobs? An effective recovery package needs elements of both. Letting people keep more of their money seems to be a mantra for all seasons from the right. Does that idea ever get any rest? Of course, the government obviously knows much better what should be done with my money than I do. I'll just do silly things like save it, invest it or spend it on consumer goods and services. We now know those are all losers for ideas as economies go. Giving it to incompetent financial institutions and auto mfrs, instead of the competent ones, is clearly something I wouldn't do and needs to be corrected. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Harrware recommendations for video editing
You need a MacOS to run the software, which means you need a dongle from Apple. Lots of confusion at the software site, including a list of system requirements: http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/specs/#finalcutpro Once you have a dongle errr... system, you can easily spend 10k on a camera if you want. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:49 PM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.org wrote: We already have the full Final Cut suite (please don't ask why we bought the software before the hardware-wasn't my decision), I'd like to get some suggestions for hardware. Hopefully, we can keep this under $10,000. Doesn't have to be top of the line, but definitely more than a basic model. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
I didn't have that problem...neither did my non-computer oriented wife. Under this scenario, no one should switch from windows to mac, how will they figure it out? Preference in UI is largely subjective. What works for one person may not for another. The author slams the UI changes in Office, but my experience has been positive. I think the Ribbon is genius, but it does take getting used to and you do need to relearn where some things are. But, the organizational structure makes absolute sense to me and the graphical elements do help in navigation. Users who have been upgraded to Office 2007 overwhelmingly like it. Some don't, but most either like it or love it and there is a overall structure is one that you can see and understand as part of knowing where to look. That said, I'm not crazy about the jumbling of menus and options in Vista. That didn't make much sense to me, but that's a different context than Office. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: by the way, tom, have you ever been checked for citizenship? i have not. How do you know that? I bet you have. When you apply for a job have you been asked to present a Social Security Card and a driver's license? That is a citizenship check. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Harrware recommendations for video editing
Mac Pro with two 500G external storage drives for starters, plus 2 Apple Cinema displays. A lot will depend upon how much video you will have to load at any one time, how much stock footage you will keep permanently loaded and whether it will be standard or high definition. Richard P. We already have the full Final Cut suite (please don't ask why we bought the software before the hardware-wasn't my decision), I'd like to get some suggestions for hardware. Hopefully, we can keep this under $10,000. Doesn't have to be top of the line, but definitely more than a basic model. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
The author slams the UI changes in Office, but my experience has been positive. So has most other people's, the pundits notwithstanding. Whatever MS's faults may be, they are very good about finding out what their customers think (not always so good with doing something about what they find). Customer feedback on the Office ribbon has been overwhelmingly positive, which is the main reason why Win7 makes a ribbon-like interface available to any app. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:11:46 -0500, gerald wrote: july, gathering for/against abortions, etc) if they would have only known, and paved that thing from wall to wall when they had the chance. would have been very cost effective. There's always Astro-Turf. -- Katan Welcome to ObamaNation! Our long national nightmare is over. Gerald Ford * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:42:36 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote: softball games a day, daily volleyball, rugby, soccer,basketball and whatever else needed a field. weekly there was a polo(yeah, with real horses). I think you have hit on a plan the neocons will go for. We'll fix up the mall and then not let anybody use it. Or maybe limit use to the very rich Well you certainly don't want the unwashed masses ruining your Polo field. Geeze. -- Katan Welcome to ObamaNation! Our long national nightmare is over. Gerald Ford * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Yeah, I got the PDF add-on for my older Office distribution at the same time I got the add-on for opening the newer Office formats. I'm guessing that they did this because OpenOffice has had a PDF feature for a while now. Competition is good! Speaking of the new Office formats, I thought that one reason for moving to them was that they were less prone to corruption. Yet I just got a collection of about 24 *.docx files (originally a plain text questionnaire that apparently everyone filled out in Word), and one of them was unreadable. OS X's print to PDF feature is great, by the way. I use it regularly when sending documents that the recipient doesn't need to edit because that way I don't have to worry whether or not they can read it. Leopard gained the ability for PDF's to have working hyperlinks, at least for PDF's produced from Apple applications. I know it's not as good as Acrobat, but it's good enough for me, and it's free with the OS. Office 2007 has this feature now, as a free add-on. It's great to have this option, as we've depended on PDFCreator until now. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
So has most other people's, the pundits notwithstanding. Whatever MS's faults may be, they are very good about finding out what their customers think (not always so good with doing something about what they find). Bob is a great example of this. And Clippy too. So is Word's behavior when two paragraphs are joined. Then there's Word's penchant for correcting our typing because it knows what we wanted to type better than we do. I've seen people cry when they saw the new improved interface. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
tha When you apply for a job have you been asked to present a Social Security Card and a driver's license? That is a citizenship check. that is totally incorrect. No state requires citizenship, for a drivers licence, not even texas. drivers licence in many states, MD included does not require a green card and MD does not check. at least until very recently, anyone could get a social security card. i have sponsored around 20 immigrants. all had driver licence and social security card before the process was started. maryland wants 4 or 5 id's for drivers licence, but with a valid foreign passport, one can skate around citizenship. if one has a valid I-94, one needs nothing else. the Cheney administration wanted all companies to check all SS numbers of all employees against citizenship/greencard records. they started that, but soon discovered the two databases were incomparable, incomplete, and it took a very long time to run through the hundreds of millions of SS numbers(none have ever been deleted). early numbers, such as mine do not have any record of citizenship. nobody cared in 1944 or 46, or whenever i got mine. they also figured out(i think), that they did not want to open up access to the ss database(good thinking, george). i just looked, texas will also accept an i94 as primary id. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Slave labor, was Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
At 12:53 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: What percentage of everything you consume is produced offshore by slave labor ? excluding food(we eat a lot of food from mexico and south america) and wine, i would guess well over 50%, and maybe even over 75%. last i heard, japan and korea allowed most all of a product to be built in se asia or eastern africa and still get a made in japan/korea label. almost anything smaller than an automobile is made with slave labor. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Save to PDF?, was Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Yes, I meant the Save as PDF… option on the Print dialog box. Calling it Print to PDF is fairly common, I think, unless my memory betrays me. As to the problem you had, the save as PDF option has always worked properly for me, but for some reason Preview will sometimes open up PDFs with a high magnification setting if the autoscale preference is selected. Could this be what happened to you? If so, the fix is to choose the preferences setting to open PDFs at 100% scaling. Do you mean Save as PDF ? When I last used this feature on a Pages version 3.0.2 wp document, it saved the PDF in a hug font, larger than the original Pages wp document. I thought pdfs were to preserve the look of the original. What did I do wrong? OS X's print to PDF feature is great, by the way. I use it regularly when sending documents that the recipient doesn't need to edit because that way I don't have to worry whether or not they can read it. Leopard gained the ability for PDF's to have working hyperlinks, at least for PDF's produced from Apple applications. I know it's not as good as Acrobat, but it's good enough for me, and it's free with the OS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
The only criteria should be: Is this the most efficient use of the taxpayer's money to meet the enumerated responsibilities of the federal government? One thing I can never get an answer to from proponents of big government is How much is enough?. Care to take a stab at it? Matthew On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Snyder, Mark (IT-EI) wrote: So recovery projects should not include a criteria for Things that are Important to us (and that need repair)? What should the criteria be? So are you proposing that by keeping all of Your Money, you will do a better job at recovery than the gov't? I didn't get much from the 2nd paragraph except that you don't care much for how or what the gov't does and that you want to keep Your Money. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- That is an excessively pessimistic response to the idea of repairing the Mall as one recovery project. I would not think that looking around for items of public importance that are suffering neglect is reckless, the way the post implies. Not at all. There is a distinct difference in saying that the Mall needs repair and saying that the Mall needs repair and should be done so as part of a stimulus package. If the Mall didn't need repair, should we destroy it in order to create jobs? An effective recovery package needs elements of both. Letting people keep more of their money seems to be a mantra for all seasons from the right. Does that idea ever get any rest? Of course, the government obviously knows much better what should be done with my money than I do. I'll just do silly things like save it, invest it or spend it on consumer goods and services. We now know those are all losers for ideas as economies go. Giving it to incompetent financial institutions and auto mfrs, instead of the competent ones, is clearly something I wouldn't do and needs to be corrected. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] differences between two pdf files?
I know this is a long shot... Is there a way to show the differences between two pdf files? A quick google brought up this site http://www.ranks.nl/cgi-bin/ranksnl/tools/difference.cgi It seems to work for a few seconds, but then doesn't show any results. Maybe the source docs have to be true text files. (maybe this is a good reason to not send documents as pdf's?) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
I've seen people cry when they saw the new improved interface. I'm telling you what their user research says. You are preferring anecdotal evidence to research. Bad idea. Your personal stories notwithstanding, the ribbon interface is popular. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] pdf's was scanned
my understanding is that tif is one of the more efficient methods of file compression for pics. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIFF, which also matches my memory, Today, most TIFF images and readers remain based upon uncompressed 32-bit CMYK or 24-bit RGB images. The article goes on to say that the TIFF format does offer the option of lossless LZW compression, but this isn't necessarily better than other file compression methods. The GIF image format uses LZW, for example. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.comwrote: I've seen people cry when they saw the new improved interface. I'm telling you what their user research says. You are preferring anecdotal evidence to research. Bad idea. Your personal stories notwithstanding, the ribbon interface is popular. Some people learn these things slowly. Once they learn an interface changing it would set them back a dozen steps for months. M$ has a bad habit of scrambling interfaces between iterations. I remember one of the Word upgrades in the eighties had lots of peoples knickers in a twist. I think M$ should find a way to offer a fairly standard fixed interface along side the new super duper one of the hour for upgrades. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
An honor to be dope-slapped. Equal opportunity. You did see the file reduction, right? Of course I tried .jpg compression first, but that printed very badly @500kb. I wanted a file that would both reduce, but print well, if needed. .pdf conversion worked, trial and error, not sorcery. I haven't conceptual skill to prefigure in computer matters, I'm just a simple photographer. My objective only is something that works for me. Thanks for the advice, however, for the opinion that I have font problems. Guess I knew that, why I wrote. Should have said that I am Mac OSX. I want to thank Fred for offering advice about working my problem in the PC environment, instructive nonetheless. You could have just as well created a JPEG using a variety of other programs. Science give us control over our environment. Sorcery has us painting our faces blue to keep our computers from crashing. Which brings up a problem I've had: my Acrobat resists copying those diacriticals from webpages; I've tried through Distiller to get them into the program, without luck. Would appreciate any advice on this. You probably have font problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Harrware recommendations for video editing
We already have the full Final Cut suite (please don't ask why we bought the software before the hardware-wasn't my decision) Why would we ask? Picking software first is the smart thing to do. And you picked the software that is generally considered the best NLE. Be happy. I'd like to get some suggestions for hardware. Hopefully, we can keep this under $10,000. You can easily keep it under $10,000. Base model is $2799. Its specs exceed all of the minimums listed by Apple for FCP by many times. Much of the hardware you need is already in the box. The Quad Core Xeon is available at 2.8, 3.0, and 3.2 GHz. Each speed increment is another $800, but the practical difference between 2.8 and 3.2 is negligable. Not a good place to spend money. Don't buy RAM from Apple. Very overpriced. More RAM will cost you about $300. RAID is old tech. A waste of money. It has 4 SATA drive bays that are very easy to access. The drives just slide in. The 1st drive is just for your OS and software so get the minimum (320GB). You have 3 internal drive bays to fill. Add some 1TB drives, but not from Apple. Very overpriced. Lots of drives will cost about $1000. Add $150 for the better video card. It will drive two 30-inch screens. Apple's 30-inch screen is $1799 and overpriced. Remember that the screens are for editing, not for judging color. Dell's 30-incher is $1099. You'll need another video card to drive an NTSC monitor and an NTSC monitor. You'll want a professional monitor that can be easily calibrated. I'm not tracking such anymore so I won't be specific. You'll have a couple $1000 left over to spend on beer. If you can get your hands on the BH Professional Video catalog it is an amazing resource, in two volumes it is thicker than the Manhattan phone book. Full of valuable information. Remember that the world is full of hardware fan bois who are very good at wasting money with no good result. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] pdf's was scanned
The GIF image format uses LZW, for example. GIF maps all colors into a CLUT to make the file smaller. Works great if the image has a limited color space. If not, it posterizes the image. Not good. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
I'm telling you what their user research says. You are preferring anecdotal evidence to research. Bad idea. Your personal stories notwithstanding, the ribbon interface is popular. It be double plus good! From the people who brought us Clippy. The good news is that you can find tiny buttons on the ribbons that will take you to the dialog boxes of old. The main problem is often just finding the right ribbon so you can press the tiny button. Some are easier to find than others. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
If you do some research, or just watch the more informative news programs, you will find out that tax cuts do little or nothing to stimulate the economy. (and certainly nothing for people without jobs) Check this graph:http://flickr.com/photos/9818...@n03/3232223191/ Infrastructure, whether keeping up the Mall or updating the electrical grid is the best place for new spending. Snyder, Mark (IT-EI) wrote: That is an excessively pessimistic response to the idea of repairing the Mall as one recovery project. I would not think that looking around for items of public importance that are suffering neglect is reckless, the way the post implies. An effective recovery package needs elements of both. Letting people keep more of their money seems to be a mantra for all seasons from the right. Does that idea ever get any rest? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Perhaps we should wreck the Mall on a monthly basis! Just think of how we could grow the economy, constantly rebuilding it. Even more, if we break all the windows in the the museums along the Mall too. But, heavens no, don't let people keep more of their money. They'll just bury it in old coffee cans in their back yard. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
did you post this during the bush adm? why you out of the woodwork today? compare this mess to the bush printing press? did you call imholf or whoever your republican senator is when he did this? did you write ugly letters to the wsj and scream bluddy murder when they cheered on the trillion dollar dump to the wall street big banks? where WERE you? why you out now?? i quit, you quit. At 03:56 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: So recovery projects should not include a criteria for Things that are Important to us (and that need repair)? What should the criteria be? I know that it's fashionable to be a Keynesian again, but I don't buy into the notion that it's in our best interest to spend trillions of dollars we don't have, so we can mortgage our relatively minor pain today, so our kids and grand kids (and probably their grand kids) can hopefully pay it off down the road. That, and I'd rather carry my cash in a wallet and not a wheelbarrow. So are you proposing that by keeping all of Your Money, you will do a better job at recovery than the gov't? The government won't cause the economy to truly recover by spending monopoly money, nor will I alone with my real dollars. The economy will recover the way it always does; incrementally and gradually through normal economic activity. The Treasury artificially propping up home prices won't help with that, nor will propping up businesses that should have rightfully gone under from their incompetence. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
An honor to be dope-slapped. Equal opportunity. You did see the file reduction, right? Of course I tried .jpg compression first, but that printed very badly @500kb. I wanted a file that would both reduce, but print well, if needed. .pdf conversion worked, trial and error, not sorcery. Trial and error. Maybe I should have contrasted alchemy and chemistry, but the point is the same. Acrobat achieves compression of TIFFs by converting them to JPEGs. There are many possible settings for creating a good and small JPEG. To do it right you need to understand JPEGs. So by trial and error you got something working using Acrobat, but what happens when Acrobat starts working differently or when a cleint asks for something different? Thanks for the advice, however, for the opinion that I have font problems. Without details there is little more to say. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
did you write ugly letters to the wsj and scream bluddy murder when they cheered on the trillion dollar dump to the wall street big banks? You forgot to mention those bundles of $100 bills that were tossed around with wild abandon (and no records kept). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Not to mention the trillion and a half thrown away on a useless elective war which has inflamed the Middle East, that even Bush senior wasn't belligerent enough to get into! gerald wrote: did you post this during the bush adm? why you out of the woodwork today? compare this mess to the bush printing press? did you call imholf or whoever your republican senator is when he did this? did you write ugly letters to the wsj and scream bluddy murder when they cheered on the trillion dollar dump to the wall street big banks? where WERE you? why you out now?? i quit, you quit. At 03:56 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: So recovery projects should not include a criteria for Things that are Important to us (and that need repair)? What should the criteria be? I know that it's fashionable to be a Keynesian again, but I don't buy into the notion that it's in our best interest to spend trillions of dollars we don't have, so we can mortgage our relatively minor pain today, so our kids and grand kids (and probably their grand kids) can hopefully pay it off down the road. That, and I'd rather carry my cash in a wallet and not a wheelbarrow. So are you proposing that by keeping all of Your Money, you will do a better job at recovery than the gov't? The government won't cause the economy to truly recover by spending monopoly money, nor will I alone with my real dollars. The economy will recover the way it always does; incrementally and gradually through normal economic activity. The Treasury artificially propping up home prices won't help with that, nor will propping up businesses that should have rightfully gone under from their incompetence. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] differences between two pdf files?
I know this is a long shot... Is there a way to show the differences between two pdf files? A quick google brought up this site http://www.ranks.nl/cgi-bin/ranksnl/tools/difference.cgi Acrobat 8 does it and version 9 has expanded the feature. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
wilder abandon-er now On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: did you write ugly letters to the wsj and scream bluddy murder when they cheered on the trillion dollar dump to the wall street big banks? You forgot to mention those bundles of $100 bills that were tossed around with wild abandon (and no records kept). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Tom Piwowar wrote: did you write ugly letters to the wsj and scream bluddy murder when they cheered on the trillion dollar dump to the wall street big banks? You forgot to mention those bundles of $100 bills that were tossed around with wild abandon (and no records kept). Hey, if we're willing to throw that kind of money away in another country and have nothing positive to show for it, (and lots if negative to show for it)we should be willing to put a couple trillion into the infrastructure of this country. It would be smart to borrow in order to make the country stronger. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Is this the most efficient use of the taxpayer's money to meet the enumerated responsibilities of the federal government? Tax cuts are probably the least efficient form of government spending. It is randomly tossing money to the winds. There is no direction to it. It gets spent on things like $50,000,000 airplane toys, liquor and other drugs, whores, mink coats, and general bling. We get isolated islands of opulance surrounded by public squalor. One thing I can never get an answer to from proponents of big government is How much is enough?. Care to take a stab at it? We are so far away from enough that How much is enough? is hardly a reasonable question. When we start getting close to a decent society you can raise that question. Right now the choice is between helping a sick child or buying a diamond-encrusted gold tooth. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/LitNote/Atlas-Shrugged.id-7.html Only 5.99 and you won't have to spend 13 months of your life reading it. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tax cuts are probably the least efficient form of government spending. It is randomly tossing money to the winds. There is no direction to it. It gets spent on things like $50,000,000 airplane toys, liquor and other drugs, whores, mink coats, and general bling. We get isolated islands of opulance surrounded by public squalor. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
The 700B TARP was intended ONLY to rescue the entire financial system so that the whole economy wouldn't collapse, and, as bad as things are now and may worsen, it has served that purpose. And the participants received LOANS, at hefty interest rates, which have a good chance of being repaid. If not, Uncle Sam is first in line to receive remaining assets if they go bankrupt. Now, Obama and the Democrats trillion dollar dump is exactly that, a huge gamble that it will create jobs, when spending never has in the past. That trillion will come from the Chinese, and they may not continue lending, once all this spending causes inflation to rear its ugly head. How do you think we got out of the last depression? The WPA, Civilian Conservation Corps, and the National Recovery Act created jobs and made the country stronger. These jobs were bringing the country out of the depression before we got into the war. TARP was throwing money at irresponsible people who were greedy and screwed the people of this country. Stop getting your history from right wing media. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface
I'm telling you what their user research says. You are preferring anecdotal evidence to research. Bad idea. Your personal stories notwithstanding, the ribbon interface is popular. It be double plus good! From the people who brought us Clippy. The good news is that you can find tiny buttons on the ribbons that will take you to the dialog boxes of old. The main problem is often just finding the right ribbon so you can press the tiny button. Some are easier to find than others. None of which, of course, negates what I said. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cordless phone battery question
My cordless is a uniden ...it uses actually the same battery as some cell phones ...I do know the cell phone batteries have an ic chip in them to prevent overcharging ...you better check whether your cordless has that feature to make it go well with the charger stand ...mine does ...not all unidens do ...as for cellphones, my razr v3 came with 780mah battery ...I bought 1800mah batteries made in germany ...they have the ic chip feature or whatever it takes for the cell phone... They are the same size as the original reuqiring nothing new to put them in. They work great and give me longer service ...I've had them for years! -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: Re: cordless phone battery question Pretty similar. Stewart At 10:45 PM 1/28/2009, you wrote: This is for a cordless phone, not a cell phone. Thanks Randall On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: The charges should be a little smarter than that. Very often some cell phones come with two types of batteries. Standard or extended. Of course the extended can have anywhere from a few to double the Mah capacity. But you use the same charger with them. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
The 700B TARP was intended ONLY to rescue the entire financial system so that the whole economy wouldn't collapse, and, as bad as things are now and may worsen, it has served that purpose... Now, Obama and the Democrats trillion dollar dump is exactly that, a huge gamble that it will create jobs, when spending never has in the past. That trillion will come from the Chinese, and they may not continue lending, once all this spending causes inflation to rear its ugly head. You have made several unsubstantiated statements and used them to back up a radical policy that has been observed to not work. The TARP was yet another trickle down fiasco. We were told that if we gave billions to rich bankers this money would be used to correct their reckless mismanagement and allow them to restart lending. It didn't. Instead it was spent on $50,000,000 airplane toys, $1,000,000 office remodels, and $20,000,000,000 in bonuses to the undeserving. The TARP did not work, it was simply stolen. That's why none of the recipients want to disclose where the money went. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Awcrap ...and I thought I was among peers !! Silly me !! -Original Message- From: Jordan [mailto:jor17...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Scanned Tom Piwowar wrote: This list is not about being stupid. Damn! I knew I was in the wrong place! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
When you apply for a job have you been asked to present a Social Security Card and a driver's license? That is a citizenship check. that is totally incorrect. No state requires citizenship, for a drivers licence, not even texas. Correct or not. When I hire someone I am required by the Feds to check their citizenship. I have to fill in forms and keep files about their evidence. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves Digital TV Delay
Get children of LadyByrd to scatter seeds ...they did that on a highway near here a long time back and we've been payin' big bucks for the mowing ever since !! -Original Message- From: One Man [mailto:one911...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:33 AM Subject: Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves Digital TV Delay I disagree. I visited the mall this summer, and it needed to be resodded then. It's not a worthwhile expenditure for Congress, but worthwhile for the tourist industry and provides jobs. Resodding the mall (wrecked by the wonderful outpouring of support for the inauguration) may well be a worthwhile expenditure for congress, but not in an emergency economic and job stimulation package. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] scanner
I am at the reinstall windows point ...I have fresh as a daisy winxphomesp3 on my computer with msoffice2002 and coupla other things on already due to a crash ...now I want to use the scanner without that presto garbage which blocks lots of resources while it runs and makes my box sludge ...on the laptop the scanner runs with some thing called Micro$oft Image Viewer or something like that and it works great! So, do I need the driver installed for this thing or do I just plug it in? -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:50 PM Subject: Re: scanner You probably shouldn't really need to install a driver at all in WinXP. Though, there may be some special hardware features (e.g. an instant scan button) that would require proprietary software. So, just uninstall Presto and use something else. Or leave it installed and use something else. Maybe I'm just not understanding the dilemma. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:46 PM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a swell little scanner ...travelscan 464 ...it comes, of course, with a cd...well, it includes presto image manager which is slow/cumbersome; on my laptop the scanner shows up with microsoft image manager software and works like a champ (winxpprosp3) ...I have no idea how it got that way. After crash, my desktop (winxphomesp3) is redone fresh (a parallel xp install got me everything back ...cool). I don't want Presto and I wonder how to get it to work like on my laptop? Do I need to just install the driver without Presto? Or what? Before, I had to run a black and white sheet through the scanner with the presto thing to get it initialized. I don't think my laptop ever required that and it works fine scans fine. How should I approach this? ...TIA!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/LitNote/Atlas-Shrugged.id-7.html Ayn Rand, right wing fruitcake. An argument that we should give even more to the looters and moochers of Wall Street so they can build their private islands of opulance amid the public squalor. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
chad evans wyatt cewyattph...@yahoo.com escribió: An honor to be dope-slapped. Equal opportunity. You did see the file reduction, right? Of course I tried .jpg compression first, but that printed very badly @500kb. I wanted a file that would both reduce, but print well, if needed. .pdf conversion worked, trial and error, not sorcery. I haven't conceptual skill to prefigure in computer matters, I'm just a simple photographer. My objective only is something that works for me. Thanks for the advice, however, for the opinion that I have font problems. Guess I knew that, why I wrote. Should have said that I am Mac OSX. I want to thank Fred for offering advice about working my problem in the PC environment, instructive nonetheless. For email I usually scan text at 150 dpi. Then I convert the text JPEG to PDF in Photoshop, or Preview, or from the Print dialog box. Very clear, easy to read, clear enough to run through OCR. For photos I'll often post them online with a thumbnail linked to a much larger file so the thumbnail is clear, and the 600+ dpi photo can be easily downloaded. That way I avoid emailing huge files, since I hate it when people email huge files to me, too. I use TIFFs for printed materials, but not for email or web. Too big, not compatible. Designed for printing, not for Internet. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] scanner
So, I should put on the driver that came with it, eh? I didn't put presto back on and don't want to (had crash, fresh install winxphomesp3) ...thanks to all who answered!! -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:00 PM Subject: Re: scanner There are two components to making a scanner work. First there are the drivers that communicate with the software and the scanner. Then there is the software that will do it. Unisntall Presto and download for free Irfanview. I am not sure if Gimp does it but you can try that also. Both are free. Stewart At 06:46 PM 1/28/2009, you wrote: I have a swell little scanner ...travelscan 464 ...it comes, of course, with a cd...well, it includes presto image manager which is slow/cumbersome; on my laptop the scanner shows up with microsoft image manager software and works like a champ (winxpprosp3) ...I have no idea how it got that way. After crash, my desktop (winxphomesp3) is redone fresh (a parallel xp install got me everything back ...cool). I don't want Presto and I wonder how to get it to work like on my laptop? Do I need to just install the driver without Presto? Or what? Before, I had to run a black and white sheet through the scanner with the presto thing to get it initialized. I don't think my laptop ever required that and it works fine scans fine. How should I approach this? ...TIA!! Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
I think you need to re read some of your history. We did not come out of the depression until the Second world war and the ramping up of production. Of course all this can be debated till the horses come home. Once the gate is open they are out it does not matter how they got out, what matters is getting them back in!!! Stewart At 05:50 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: How do you think we got out of the last depression? The WPA, Civilian Conservation Corps, and the National Recovery Act created jobs and made the country stronger. These jobs were bringing the country out of the depression before we got into the war. TARP was throwing money at irresponsible people who were greedy and screwed the people of this country. Stop getting your history from right wing media. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Damn! I knew I was in the wrong place! I guess that proves you are not stupid. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Well you certainly don't want the unwashed masses ruining your Polo field. Geeze. It is located in a remote part of West Potomac Park, not really part of the Mall, but south of it. I think the Mall and Washington are a big enough place that we can make a little room for horsemen too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Stop getting your history from the left wing media. Saying that doesn't help much does it? FDR's new deal never got unemployment below 20%, the jobless rate went up in 38, not down. Unemployment was at it's lowest the year before the new deal part 2 was enacted, and went up the following year. Of course the war started at this point so further data gets mucked up, but once the war started unemployment took a nosedive. TARP was throwing money at irresponsible people who were greedy and screwed up. This new new deal is throwing money at irresponsible people who helped the last group of irresponsible people screw up. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: The 700B TARP was intended ONLY to rescue the entire financial system so that the whole economy wouldn't collapse, and, as bad as things are now and may worsen, it has served that purpose. And the participants received LOANS, at hefty interest rates, which have a good chance of being repaid. If not, Uncle Sam is first in line to receive remaining assets if they go bankrupt. Now, Obama and the Democrats trillion dollar dump is exactly that, a huge gamble that it will create jobs, when spending never has in the past. That trillion will come from the Chinese, and they may not continue lending, once all this spending causes inflation to rear its ugly head. How do you think we got out of the last depression? The WPA, Civilian Conservation Corps, and the National Recovery Act created jobs and made the country stronger. These jobs were bringing the country out of the depression before we got into the war. TARP was throwing money at irresponsible people who were greedy and screwed the people of this country. Stop getting your history from right wing media. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose Three years ago they dug up Farragut Square. They even broke up all the concrete sidewalks that criss-cross the park. Then they poured new concrete where the old concrete had been. The old concrete had been fine. The new concrete looked no better. It was actually a bit worse as the new contractor had little skill. They put down sod. They didn't water it. It died. We now have a very scruffy park, just like we had before. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Tax cuts are probably the least efficient form of government spending. It is randomly tossing money to the winds. There is no direction to it. It gets spent on things like $50,000,000 airplane toys, liquor and other drugs, whores, mink coats, and general bling. Really? I need to hang out with you more Tom. You know how to party. All I get to do is save for my retirement and my kid's college fund. We are so far away from enough that How much is enough? is hardly a reasonable question. When we start getting close to a decent society you can raise that question. Right now the choice is between helping a sick child or buying a diamond-encrusted gold tooth. Careful with open flame around those strawmen. Uglier than a Christmas tree fire. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
did you post this during the bush adm? I dunno. Did it come up? why you out of the woodwork today? I think I've been out of both the woodwork and the closet for a couple decades now. compare this mess to the bush printing press? It's all the goodness of that, plus hope and change. I just hope I'm left with more than just change when all this stimulating is over. did you call imholf or whoever your republican senator is when he did this? Seriously? I live in Maryland. The last Republican senator we had is dead. did you write ugly letters to the wsj and scream bluddy murder when they cheered on the trillion dollar dump to the wall street big banks? No, they won't print my letters, though I do know someone who did get a letter published in the 80's. where WERE you? why you out now?? Been out, right here the whole time. But, at this point, I'm tempted to go back in. It's clear the drunken sailors have the run of the town. i quit, you quit. Kai. Bai. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
So we become defacto 'ID Checkers' and 'ID Validators'. It was broadly hinted to me I should photo copy and retain the documents presented with the I-9 form, 'Of course, of course, not required, but just a suggestion'. So I wonder what the phrase was in world war 2? Something about 'your papers please'? But of course it is for the greater good of security for the homeland. John Mealey -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com]on Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:54 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves When you apply for a job have you been asked to present a Social Security Card and a driver's license? That is a citizenship check. that is totally incorrect. No state requires citizenship, for a drivers licence, not even texas. Correct or not. When I hire someone I am required by the Feds to check their citizenship. I have to fill in forms and keep files about their evidence. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1924 - Release Date: 01/29/09 17:57:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Again, TARP was a loan, Economic Recovery Package is spending. It's all spending and TARP is not a loan. It's an outright purchase troubled assets and equities. It's also a blank check for the POTUS and Treasury Secretary to spend on any damn thing they want. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Assets_Relief_Program * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
There was plenty of that done on this side of the ocean also. Many people fail to remember the Japanese interment camps, the German internment camps and other forms of state sponsored discrimination based on nationality. Those with no knowledge of history often repeat the same mistakes. Stewart At 07:25 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: So we become defacto 'ID Checkers' and 'ID Validators'. It was broadly hinted to me I should photo copy and retain the documents presented with the I-9 form, 'Of course, of course, not required, but just a suggestion'. So I wonder what the phrase was in world war 2? Something about 'your papers please'? But of course it is for the greater good of security for the homeland. John Mealey Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
You are correct that that was the original intent. But Paulson quickly changed course. To my knowledge, none of the TARP has yet been used to purchase the troubled assets. It has all gone to AIG, BofA, CitiBank, etc, and lately Detroit. But those were all loans or preferred stock purchases (same as a loan, in that the banks will buy them back when solvent). Why do you think the right is screaming Socialism; because the US is now a major owner in those enterprises. I think I heard the US has a 6% stake in BofA, the largest creditor. The TARP may yet be used for troubled assets, if you listen to Barney Frank and Obama. But the Republicans have had a sudden conversion to fiscal responsibility (easy, when you don't hold the purse strings) and will probably fight it. Jeff Wright wrote: Again, TARP was a loan, Economic Recovery Package is spending. It's all spending and TARP is not a loan. It's an outright purchase troubled assets and equities. It's also a blank check for the POTUS and Treasury Secretary to spend on any damn thing they want. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Assets_Relief_Program * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Blue tooth ear bud for MP3 player cellphone ?
Does anyone know if there is a blue tooth ear bud that will work in a coordinated way with any misc. blue tooth equipped MP3 player AND any blue tooth equipped cellphone? My reason for asking: In order to follow NPR's talk shows as I travel around on business during the day, with my pocket digital FM radio I often use one ear bud of a corded set of stereo earbuds (keeping the other ear free for whatever ...). I also use a regular cellphone and when I get a call or something else comes up that demands both ears, I have to turn off the radio remove the earbud / coil it up etc. Often it gets in tangles, caught up with my scarf, my seatbelt etc... in any case, as much as I enjoy listening to the radio shows, the corded headphone often ends up being a pain the you know what! I see people using single blue tooth ear buds for cellphones and it occurred to me that it would be really great if I could use one of them with a blue tooth equipped MP3 player / FM radio combo that are on the market now. And if I did, and I had a blue tooth equipped cellphone, and I got a call on the phone ... could I just interrupt the talk show and take the call by tapping on the earbud. Seems like I read about some cellphone earbud model that does that but I can't remember what it was. Anybody know? ps: I'm not interested in stereo earbuds because I never listen to music in this way and I don't want to tie up both ears. Multi-tasking is the name of the game! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
... break all the windows in the the museums ... But, but, that's like taking coal to Newcastle. Windows is already broken! Aw, shucks! You mean real windows. My bad. mumble And, I thought this was a computer list. Silly me! /mumble * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Ergonomic keyboard for broken arm
Hello everyone--I'm looking for an ergonomic keyboard I can use with a broken arm. My fingers stick out of the end of the cast and I can sort of wiggle them, maybe enough to type on a computer keyboard. (I'm using one hand to type this, and it's slow and laborious.) The one insurmountable problem: I can't rotate my forearm so that my palm faces downward, so that I can actually type with my left hand. To be usable, the keyboard would have to be tilted at a 45 to 90 degree angle (with the high point towards the center of the keyboard) for the left hand, but with the right-hand portion of the keyboard remaining flat, in the normal position. I've seen pictures of odd-looking ergonomic keyboards IN TWO PARTS, or that are tilted on an angle. (If a keyboard were in two parts, I could use it at a normal angle for my right hand, but tilt it to a 45 or 90 degree angle for my left.) I've seen flexible keyboards in stores, but I don't know if one of those flexible keyboards would work if you bent it in the middle--or even if flexible keyboards work well under any circumstances. I really need to be able to type, because I got laid off and I need to send out resumes and letters of application. For my own writing and for first drafts, I can use Dragon Naturally Speaking; but I've never gotten the error rate down to the point where I could use Dragon for job application stuff. Any suggestions? Do such keyboards exist, and if so, where can you get them? Thanks! --Constance Warner * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Blue tooth ear bud for MP3 player cellphone ?
I know of some headphones, not ear buds that are bluetooth and work with a variety of bluetooth appliances including phones, mp3 players and computers. Stewart At 09:08 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a blue tooth ear bud that will work in a coordinated way with any misc. blue tooth equipped MP3 player AND any blue tooth equipped cellphone? My reason for asking: In order to follow NPR's talk shows as I travel around on business during the day, with my pocket digital FM radio I often use one ear bud of a corded set of stereo earbuds (keeping the other ear free for whatever ...). I also use a regular cellphone and when I get a call or something else comes up that demands both ears, I have to turn off the radio remove the earbud / coil it up etc. Often it gets in tangles, caught up with my scarf, my seatbelt etc... in any case, as much as I enjoy listening to the radio shows, the corded headphone often ends up being a pain the you know what! I see people using single blue tooth ear buds for cellphones and it occurred to me that it would be really great if I could use one of them with a blue tooth equipped MP3 player / FM radio combo that are on the market now. And if I did, and I had a blue tooth equipped cellphone, and I got a call on the phone ... could I just interrupt the talk show and take the call by tapping on the earbud. Seems like I read about some cellphone earbud model that does that but I can't remember what it was. Anybody know? ps: I'm not interested in stereo earbuds because I never listen to music in this way and I don't want to tie up both ears. Multi-tasking is the name of the game! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ergonomic keyboard for broken arm
How about piece of plywood 3 ft. square with a U shape cut out of it ... big enough for you and your chair... then place it on your desk with the computer/ monitor and keyboard sitting on the part without the cutout. It should wrap around you and provide support for your arm and cast. If you make another cut out the shape and location of your keyboard, the keyboard will be somewhat recessed and allow you to more easily place your fingers on the keyboard. Just an idea... db Constance Warner wrote: Hello everyone--I'm looking for an ergonomic keyboard I can use with a broken arm. My fingers stick out of the end of the cast and I can sort of wiggle them, maybe enough to type on a computer keyboard. (I'm using one hand to type this, and it's slow and laborious.) The one insurmountable problem: I can't rotate my forearm so that my palm faces downward, so that I can actually type with my left hand. To be usable, the keyboard would have to be tilted at a 45 to 90 degree angle (with the high point towards the center of the keyboard) for the left hand, but with the right-hand portion of the keyboard remaining flat, in the normal position. I've seen pictures of odd-looking ergonomic keyboards IN TWO PARTS, or that are tilted on an angle. (If a keyboard were in two parts, I could use it at a normal angle for my right hand, but tilt it to a 45 or 90 degree angle for my left.) I've seen flexible keyboards in stores, but I don't know if one of those flexible keyboards would work if you bent it in the middle--or even if flexible keyboards work well under any circumstances. I really need to be able to type, because I got laid off and I need to send out resumes and letters of application. For my own writing and for first drafts, I can use Dragon Naturally Speaking; but I've never gotten the error rate down to the point where I could use Dragon for job application stuff. Any suggestions? Do such keyboards exist, and if so, where can you get them? Thanks! --Constance Warner * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] no sod for you
the sodding was pulled from the bill to appease the republicans. they still voted 100% against. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Is this the most efficient use of the taxpayer's money to meet the enumerated responsibilities of the federal government? Tax cuts are probably the least efficient form of government spending. Tax cuts are not spending. The money is not the government's it is the taxpayer's money. It is randomly tossing money to the winds. There is no direction to it. There is direction - the direction of the individual. What there is not is central direction with government overhead deducted. It gets spent on things like $50,000,000 airplane toys, liquor and other drugs, whores, mink coats, and general bling. We get isolated islands of opulance surrounded by public squalor. All those thing employ others to produce them. Sometimes at very hefty rates. Other times not. Are you arguing that the government is more efficient and should direct all spending? I think the Soviets tried that for a while. One thing I can never get an answer to from proponents of big government is How much is enough?. Care to take a stab at it? We are so far away from enough that How much is enough? is hardly a reasonable question. Nonsense - what proportion of the economy do you think should be directed by the government? It is a simple question. When we start getting close to a decent society you can raise that question. Nope, I am raising it now. That you refuse to answer speaks volumes. Right now the choice is between helping a sick child or buying a diamond-encrusted gold tooth. As it happens my child required thousands of dollars of medical expenses this past year, as did my wife. My choice is paying those bills or saving for college. Retirement is not even a consideration. Are my taxes still to low Tom? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Blue tooth ear bud for MP3 player cellphone ?
What companies make such? A blue tooth earbud with a cellphone mic and the ability to pick up and switch between a blue tooth cellphone and a bluetooth MP3 player / FM radio would be perfect. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I know of some headphones, not ear buds that are bluetooth and work with a variety of bluetooth appliances including phones, mp3 players and computers. Stewart At 09:08 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a blue tooth ear bud that will work in a coordinated way with any misc. blue tooth equipped MP3 player AND any blue tooth equipped cellphone? My reason for asking: In order to follow NPR's talk shows as I travel around on business during the day, with my pocket digital FM radio I often use one ear bud of a corded set of stereo earbuds (keeping the other ear free for whatever ...). I also use a regular cellphone and when I get a call or something else comes up that demands both ears, I have to turn off the radio remove the earbud / coil it up etc. Often it gets in tangles, caught up with my scarf, my seatbelt etc... in any case, as much as I enjoy listening to the radio shows, the corded headphone often ends up being a pain the you know what! I see people using single blue tooth ear buds for cellphones and it occurred to me that it would be really great if I could use one of them with a blue tooth equipped MP3 player / FM radio combo that are on the market now. And if I did, and I had a blue tooth equipped cellphone, and I got a call on the phone ... could I just interrupt the talk show and take the call by tapping on the earbud. Seems like I read about some cellphone earbud model that does that but I can't remember what it was. Anybody know? ps: I'm not interested in stereo earbuds because I never listen to music in this way and I don't want to tie up both ears. Multi-tasking is the name of the game! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] sod off, was Re: [CGUYS] no sod for you
they've got their turf; what do they care for the nation's? the sodding was pulled from the bill to appease the republicans. they still voted 100% against. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Blue tooth ear bud for MP3 player cellphone ?
Motorola and LG are two I know of. They make them for the music phones that transmit in stereo and also make phone calls. Motorola Q, and the LG Chocolate are two of the phones we have in our house. Stewart At 09:36 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: What companies make such? A blue tooth earbud with a cellphone mic and the ability to pick up and switch between a blue tooth cellphone and a bluetooth MP3 player / FM radio would be perfect. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I know of some headphones, not ear buds that are bluetooth and work with a variety of bluetooth appliances including phones, mp3 players and computers. Stewart At 09:08 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a blue tooth ear bud that will work in a coordinated way with any misc. blue tooth equipped MP3 player AND any blue tooth equipped cellphone? My reason for asking: In order to follow NPR's talk shows as I travel around on business during the day, with my pocket digital FM radio I often use one ear bud of a corded set of stereo earbuds (keeping the other ear free for whatever ...). I also use a regular cellphone and when I get a call or something else comes up that demands both ears, I have to turn off the radio remove the earbud / coil it up etc. Often it gets in tangles, caught up with my scarf, my seatbelt etc... in any case, as much as I enjoy listening to the radio shows, the corded headphone often ends up being a pain the you know what! I see people using single blue tooth ear buds for cellphones and it occurred to me that it would be really great if I could use one of them with a blue tooth equipped MP3 player / FM radio combo that are on the market now. And if I did, and I had a blue tooth equipped cellphone, and I got a call on the phone ... could I just interrupt the talk show and take the call by tapping on the earbud. Seems like I read about some cellphone earbud model that does that but I can't remember what it was. Anybody know? ps: I'm not interested in stereo earbuds because I never listen to music in this way and I don't want to tie up both ears. Multi-tasking is the name of the game! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
