Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
In many ways RR was the textbook neo-conservative - he was a Democrat before as he said I did not leave the Democratic Party, The Democratic Party left me. On Feb 8, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. Velvet Revolution, Czechoslovakia. Pretty much the same thing happened in other countries after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Thank you Ronald Reagan. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] TomTom software resolution
took the wife about 20 hrs to resolve the problem. data is written from the sd chip to the tomtom memory and stored there. the tomtom runs on the data stored in the memory. the backup is created from the sd chip to a computer. wife had done that. apparently, when tomtom builds these machine, they load the data directly to the memory. the files on the chip were defective, so wife had a defective backup. she finally determined the defect when she realized the files on the computer and the chip were the wrong size. tomtom gave her the new software, and a year subscription for her troubles. the files have grown, and barely fit on a 1 gig chip(890meg). is time to buy a new chip. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?
Interesting experience. I bought two Dell OEM XP Pro CDs, and I had no trouble with installing them, one on a home-built machine with an Asus board and another on an IBM ThinkPad. And both were verified as being OK by MS when it came time to load service packs, etc. At one point, I had a hard drive failure and reloaded the system on to a new drive, and MS customer service OK'd the re-installation with no question. I guess that just proves that there is a LOT of inconsistencies to be found in the MS world. Mike gerald wrote: None of the inexpensive machines i have purchased in the past few years have included disks. the OS can usually be downloaded to disks from wherever it is stored on the HD. a recent compaq had a defect in the cd when i attempted to download. when i attempted to download a second time, i was unable to do so. got a message of one download per machine or somesuch. if one reloads using the disks created from the machine, all the Crap is also reloaded. the MS disks i have received with machines from screwdriver shops, or from mfgrs have been OEM disks. when calling MS for assistance, i have been told that i have OEM disks, and they are not supported by MS.(been a while since i did this). i once attempted to load Asus OS software on a compaq or hp. this was not allowed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. Neocons will disagree, but I nominate the USofA. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?
Also keep in mind that the installed files on the backup partition may not always be correct. My Compaq image was defective and after working with tech support for three months, someone was able to figure that out and sent out new recovery disks which resolved the problem. Richard P. Our cheap Compaq notebook didn't have install disks, but has a partition with all the data you need to create restore disks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
Those were classical liberals, aka paleoconservatives in todays lexicon. One could argue that Lincoln's Republicans overthrew that federal republic government by force with a more national republic, and then FDR's brand of liberals overthrew that government when they eviscerated limited government by ruling that the commerce clause essentially lets Congress legislate on any matter in any manner. On Feb 8, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. Neocons will disagree, but I nominate the USofA. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
Ever heard of liberation theology? Seen the news reports of all the delightful celebrities cozying up to left wing thugs and dictators? Idolizing the Viet Cong and NVA? Worshiping at the feet of the Sandanista's (and Ortega is at it again I hear)? Name calling is not a substitute for thought. Perhaps that is sufficient within your con/neocon cabal, but not here. Thoughtful people will dispute your contention the above named were any more in the wrong then their opponents. Liberation theology has very little to do with your con/neocon bogeyman. It focuses on Christ's teachings to bring justice to the poor. While cons/neocons may consider Christ to be the devil incarnate, I think most thoughtful people would not accept that. If you want to propose that the US policy in South East Asia during the 1970s was proper this is going to be a very long thread. Note that the government that was fighting to expel the neocolonialists is still in power and has good relations with the USA. What changed? Ortega was (and is now once again) a democratically elected president. What's your point? Did you support the right-wing thugs who were sent to overthrow him? Note that after a change in US administrations the situation in Latin America changed dramatically. For many years democracy in the Americas was doing quite well. Things did not begin to turn sour again until Bush 43 revived old counter-productive policies. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
I agree with the USA part, but most actions were left/right united, as in WWI, and WWII. But mostly the right in winning the Cold War. And, if I may be so bold, the neocons can take credit for ousting a totalitarian regime and establishing a multi-party representative government in Iraq. Yes, can't say the war is officially over, but Iraq feels self-sufficient to assume full responsibility without our help in a year or two. Tom Piwowar wrote: Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. Neocons will disagree, but I nominate the USofA. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?
I tried it with my home office - I just changed the IP address by one digit and turned off DHCP and it worked fine. As you suggested, with DHCP turned off, it didn't seem to matter which port I used, nor did it need a crossover cable. Thanks to all who responded. Now back to political philosophy... Mike Tom Piwowar wrote: OK, I agree that I need to turn off DHCP on the slave router and give it a different ID from the master. But now you are suggesting that I go from the WAN port on the wired/wireless slave to an in port on the router. While that sounds logical, I am wondering if the electronics on the WAN port can deal hand off to the in port the router? Isn't the WAN port set up to deal with some kind of specialized connections handshake from the ISP's modem? (I am asking this out of ignorance.) It gets confusing because the box offers a bunch of different functions. You can connect the box in several different ways and you can enable/disable the various functions. Every router has 2 sides, usually labeled WAN and LAN, but these names are only correct if the box is connected in the simplest way. I think it best to think of WAN as outside and LAN as inside. The LAN side usually has a bunch of ports and that is where you connect your inside network. The WAN side has just 1 port and you connect that to the outside. That outside could just be the rest of your bigger LAN. In that case inside is a subnet your have created. A subnet is a LAN that has a different range of IP addresses than the outside LAN. So the function of the router is to separate networks and control what passes from one network to the other. If you turn on the box's WiFi then that gets connected to the local side of the router too. If you ignore the WAN port, then the box is not being used as a router. It is just being used as a hub/switch. You will have only 1 network (no subnets). And the WiFi function is getting added to that 1 network. So if you have just 1 network you must have just one DHCP server and must be sude that the box you are adding does not also do DHCP. If you connect the new box vis its WAN port you have 2 networks (the main one and the subnet the router box is creating). Then you want both routers to provide DHCP. One per network. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
But mostly the right in winning the Cold War. And, if I may be so bold, the neocons can take credit for ousting a totalitarian regime... I fear that historians will identify Bush 43 and his neocons as bringing about the end of the American century. They may not even call it that. It did not even last a century. The era of American preeminence started with WW I and ended with the Iraq invasion. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Talk about your mac vs. pc wars!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4547649/French-fighter-planes-grounded-by-computer-virus.html French fighter planes grounded by computer virusFrench fighter planes were unable to take off after military computers were infected by a computer virus, an intelligence magazine claims. by Kim Willsher in Paris French fighter jets were unable to take off after military computers were attacked by a virus Photo: AFP The aircraft were unable to download their flight plans after databases were infected by a Microsoft virus they had already been warned about several months beforehand. At one point French naval staff were also instructed not to even open their computers. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
Ever heard of liberation theology? Seen the news reports of all the delightful celebrities cozying up to left wing thugs and dictators? Idolizing the Viet Cong and NVA? Worshiping at the feet of the Sandanista's (and Ortega is at it again I hear)? Liberation theology refers to the Catholic priests and nuns who worked to protect the local people against the dictators who controlled the governments, mostly in Latin America. It has nothing to do with celebrities. Viet Cong weren't liberal. They were nationalists, fighting to remove the colonial influences from their country. Sandinistas are also nationalists, with goals more along the line of freeing the country from a series of brutal dictators that the US installed every time the Nicaraguan people voted for someone they liked. Communism in its ideal form might appear liberal, but it has never been anything but a label used by dictators to pacify the rabble while enslaving them. I have a family full of refugees from a variety of Latin American countries who would never say that any of those brutal governments have ever been liberal. You have confused the labels with the realities. It's like putting a picture of someone else on your Facebook page and saying that it's you, only with deadly consequences. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. That's easy; here's two. The United States--original 13 colonies. India, 1947, with work of Mahandas K. Gandhi. How about the Magna Carta in 1215 creating a nation of laws, not totally controlled by royal dictators. Are you still confused? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
At 07:48 PM 2/8/2009, you wrote: Liberation theology refers to the Catholic priests and nuns who worked to protect the local people against the dictators who controlled the governments, mostly in Latin America. It has nothing to do with celebrities. Viet Cong weren't liberal. They were nationalists, fighting to remove the colonial influences from their country. Sandinistas are also nationalists, with goals more along the line of freeing the country from a series of brutal dictators that the US installed every time the Nicaraguan people voted for someone they liked. Not just Catholic. There were a number of mainline Protestants denominations that bought into it. Communism in its ideal form might appear liberal, but it has never been anything but a label used by dictators to pacify the rabble while enslaving them. I have a family full of refugees from a variety of Latin American countries who would never say that any of those brutal governments have ever been liberal. You have confused the labels with the realities. It's like putting a picture of someone else on your Facebook page and saying that it's you, only with deadly consequences. We have never seen pure communism. Marxist theory which Communism is based upon, wipes out all distinctions of class and position. Non of the political systems that call them selves communistic achieved this, as they kept class distinction between ruling class=privilege and working class=non privilege. It has also wrecked havoc on environmental issues and technology. Socialism on the other hand is not always communistic. It tries to level the playing field to the point where most everyone has a chance. Again not always successfully achieved because of mans desire to always have more and especially more than his neighbor. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
Neocons will disagree, but I nominate the USofA. Recommend you read Crane Brinton's The Anatomy of Revolution. The 1965 revision of a 1938 book. This is actual, serious scholarship and it is dead on. I do not know what your agenda is with regard to conservatives in general, you have always impressed me as being at least rational, preferring Mac to an extreme degree but at least conversant with other OSes. Well, I'm a conservative. You find that hard to believe from an Amiga using, Linux supporting broken down gamer like me? Not too hard to understand. I value individual liberty and the Constitution, as written. Those are the rules of our society. It would be easy to imagine a government that breaks faith with those that elected it. It is said that people get the government they deserve. But the United States is something new. We can, and do, toss the rascals out. On a regular basis. On occasion we do elect a new bunch of rascals. But the system is designed in such a way as to never allow particular rascals enough time to do real damage. On the whole, George W. Bush wasn't a totally bad President. Yes he was stupid to invade Iraq. Yes he was an incredibly bad public speaker. But the moment of his Presidency that I will most remember was at 9:00 a.m. on 9/11/2001. He was reading to schoolchildren when an aide brought him the news. He was speechless, floored. But he got up and kept on going. That my friends is class. We don't always elect the best people for the job. But we do elect them, and that is what is important. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
In todays categorization of the terms, in general, I consider conservatives to believe in limited government involvement in our lives and liberals to want more, especially at the federal level. Thus the battles over National Health Care, federal funding of all kinds of social programs, using the tax code to redistribute wealth, etc. In that regard, I would consider the founding fathers to be conservative, not liberal. They wrote a Constitution to explicitly provide enumerated services like banking, coinage, and a military. The Bill of Rights are PROHIBITIONS on what the federal government can do (Congress shall make no law...) and they tried to further limit its powers with the 10th Amendment (The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people) but it only lasted until 1837. Never repealed but de facto repealed by the courts. I will give you India. Thanks. But I think it is hard to categorize todays use of liberal/conservative terminology to the 13th century. (And initially, the MC applied only to the King's Barons.) In research, I found this definition of the term Liberal. http://www.conservative-resources.com/definition-of-liberal.html Now this is a conservative site, but please look at the first 6 items. I think it is fair and accurate to the classical meaning which we can all probably agree with. If you are a Modern Liberal, stop reading there (that means you, Tom), as its likely you will be offended by the remainder of the essay . (Conservative axe grinding) b_s-wilk wrote: Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. That's easy; here's two. The United States--original 13 colonies. India, 1947, with work of Mahandas K. Gandhi. How about the Magna Carta in 1215 creating a nation of laws, not totally controlled by royal dictators. Are you still confused? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
I would consider the founding fathers to be conservative, not liberal. You've got it. The Bill of Rights are PROHIBITIONS on what the federal government can do... Yep. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
But mostly the right in winning the Cold War. And, if I may be so bold, the neocons can take credit for ousting a totalitarian regime... I fear that historians will identify Bush 43 and his neocons as bringing about the end of the American century. They may not even call it that. It did not even last a century. The era of American preeminence started with WW I and ended with the Iraq invasion. The right wing _started_ the Cold War. They were the military-industrial complex that Dwight Eisenhower warned us against. The Soviet Union was never as powerful as they claimed. They demonized Soviets who were not nearly as powerful nor evil as cons claimed as a ruse to build more expensive weapons. They propped up Saddam Hussein and gave him weapons to fight Iran. They were the war profiteers who lied in 2002 to go to war in Iraq even though Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, then they stole $billions after carpet-bombing a country that wasn't our enemy. The cons made US the enemy. The cons made US the bad guys. Fortunately, people outside the United States are smarter than many here because they not only forgive us for having criminals running our country, they empathize and wish us well--after the trials and convictions. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
I would consider the founding fathers to be conservative, not liberal. You've got it. The Bill of Rights are PROHIBITIONS on what the federal government can do... Yep. Most of the founders of the United States, especially those who wrote the Constitution considered themselves to be liberal, in the tradition of the Age of Enlightenment. The definition of liberal hasn't changed that much since then. The conservatives were the ones who wanted to remain British, not the ones who wanted revolution. Good thing the founders weren't Libertarian, otherwise they'd never agree on a Constitution that would last, or even what to write. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
