[CGUYS] Firefox

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Dunford
A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly
outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in
2008

Now, don't anyone (yes, you) get all silly  sarcastic about WFBs and so
forth. I use Firefox. I just thought it was interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/dmq4yw

The report does go on to say that Mozilla reacts to issues faster than MS.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] Firefox jar:file?

2009-03-06 Thread gerald
in the past, (3.0.1,2,3) if i typed in google, or yahoo, or ebay or somesuch, 
firefox found or made a guess at the site i was looking for.  in 3.0.6 and now 
3.0.7, i get a response of :

jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files/Mozilla%20Firefox/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/browser-region/region.propertiesgoogle

and file not found.  

is this feature lost forever, or is there some way to get it back? 


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] Firefox jar:file?

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files/Mozilla%20Firefox/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/
browser-region/region.propertiesgoogle
and file not found. 

A jar is a Java library. Looks like one of yours is missing or corrupt. 
I'm guessing that you could fix it by following the path to delete the 
file, then reinstalling FF. Or some variation on that.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


[CGUYS] Obama picks US information chief

2009-03-06 Thread John Emmerling
For those not aware:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7927944.stm


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] Firefox

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly
outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in
2008

1) How did Secunia count vulnerabilities?

The report does not say. The thrust of the Letter from the CEO is that 
Secunia wants to expand its market to non-Microsoft shops. This report 
is from their marketing department, not a research department.

2) How did the reporter report on the Secunia report?

The reporter could have mentioned other interesting items from the 
report, but chose not to. For example Secunia counted 9 zero-day 
vulnerabilities for IE and 3 for everybody else. They also counted 366 
Active-X vulnerabilities and just 1 for FireFox plug-ins.

The report is very short. I wonder why the reporter chose to provide such 
a narrow picture. Does eWeek have a bandwidth problem and is telling 
reporters to keep their stories short? Probably not. If I had the time I 
would look at other stories by this reporter to look for bias.

The 366 Active-X vulnerabilities in 2008 certainly caught my eye. They is 
way worse than any other product in the report.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] Firefox jar:file?

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
I did some searching and found answers to suggest that the problem may be
toolbar-related.  I recommend first removing any toolbars or other plugins
that may pertain to Google or searching in general.

I like your answer better than mine. I missed that.

Also FF just had an update. Are you current?


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


[CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
If only you worried about this stuff when you link roughlydrafted...

Off topic, but you get your 59¢ anyway I guess.

RoughlyDrafted is not a corporate mouthpiece. You seem to be most comfortable 
digesting corporate PR pablum and hate people who observe critically and think 
for themselves.

To others I also recommend DaringFireball.com and AllThingsDigital, 
allthingsd.com

How about when a MS loyalist asks Ballmer...
in your presentation you put Windows Mobile right in the center there, but it 
was a phone that doesn¹t work in America and an operating system that you 
haven¹t released. I¹m wondering what your commitment is to continuing to get 
newer versions of the operating system in our hands so that we don¹t have to 
fight this battle on the ground.²
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090305/hard-to-stand-behind-windows-mobile-when-our-workers-want-iphones/

I won't quote Ballmer's answer because I don't want to be mean.

CGuys should be a no pablum zone.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]

2009-03-06 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Tom please do not confuse two things.

Many of us cannot stand Ballmer.  He is an idiot 
and should not be atop of the MS corp.


Ridicule him all you want he deserves it.

Stewart


At 11:26 AM 3/6/2009, you wrote:

Off topic, but you get your 59¢ anyway I guess.

RoughlyDrafted is not a corporate mouthpiece. 
You seem to be most comfortable digesting 
corporate PR pablum and hate people who observe 
critically and think for themselves.


To others I also recommend DaringFireball.com 
and AllThingsDigital, allthingsd.com


How about when a MS loyalist asks Ballmer...
in your presentation you put Windows Mobile 
right in the center there, but it was a phone 
that doesn¹t work in America and an operating 
system that you haven¹t released. I¹m wondering 
what your commitment is to continuing to get 
newer versions of the operating system in our 
hands so that we don¹t have to fight this battle on the ground.²

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090305/hard-to-stand-behind-windows-mobile-when-our-workers-want-iphones/

I won't quote Ballmer's answer because I don't want to be mean.

CGuys should be a no pablum zone.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]

2009-03-06 Thread Mike

After reading ballmers response I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:34, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:



Tom please do not confuse two things.

Many of us cannot stand Ballmer.  He is an idiot and should not be  
atop of the MS corp.


Ridicule him all you want he deserves it.

Stewart


At 11:26 AM 3/6/2009, you wrote:

Off topic, but you get your 59¢ anyway I guess.

RoughlyDrafted is not a corporate mouthpiece. You seem to be most  
comfortable digesting corporate PR pablum and hate people who  
observe critically and think for themselves.


To others I also recommend DaringFireball.com and AllThingsDigital,  
allthingsd.com


How about when a MS loyalist asks Ballmer...
in your presentation you put Windows Mobile right in the center  
there, but it was a phone that doesn¹t work in America and an oper 
ating system that you haven¹t released. I¹m wondering what your co 
mmitment is to continuing to get newer versions of the operating s 
ystem in our hands so that we don¹t have to fight this battle on t 
he ground.²

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090305/hard-to-stand-behind-windows-mobile-when-our-workers-want-iphones/

I won't quote Ballmer's answer because I don't want to be mean.

CGuys should be a no pablum zone.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


*** 
**
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,  
privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// 
www.cguys.org/  **
*** 
**



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tom please do not confuse two things.
Many of us cannot stand Ballmer.  He is an idiot 
and should not be atop of the MS corp.

What is thing #2?

Now I'm confused.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
After reading ballmers response I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

MFBs get that feeling almost every day.

We reach out to you with our message of hope. You can run OS X on your 
Win box.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
in your presentation you put Windows Mobile right in the center there, 
but it was a phone that doesn¹t work in America and an operating system 
that you haven¹t released. I¹m wondering what your commitment is to 
continuing to get newer versions of the operating system in our hands so 
that we don¹t have to fight this battle on the ground.²

It is also interesting how this WFB saw it in militaristic terms. As if people 
who use the iPhone, Android, or the Pre we being equated to the Taliban.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] Firefox

2009-03-06 Thread b_s-wilk
 A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox 
greatly
 outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other 
browsers in

 2008

Computer security companies exist because there are vulnerabilities in 
software. It's in their interest--not yours--to blow the vulnerabilities 
out of proportion to validate their existence. Companies like Mozilla 
and Apple that repair potential vulnerabilities before they become 
dangerous are a threat to the companies that sell security software.


Consider the source. Consider the motives.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] I Bought a BIG Mistake

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
saw both motorolas on ebay last week for chp!!

10 bucks.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


[CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firefox

2009-03-06 Thread mike
Now I've heard the opposite about Apple, that repairs often go unfixed for
some time?  I suppose if you measure by fixing something before it's used as
an attack vector, then the amount of time that's passed between finding it
and fixing it is pointless if the attack never came.

Generally speaking if you visit secunia, os x has been having a hard time
according their reports, but vista has done well.  That doesn't sound right
if secunia is trying to sell you something...they would be grinding down on
the larger market to sell more.  Unless they aren't trying to sell
anything.  All things being equal, if vulnerabilities are measured the same
between OS's then it really doesn't matter how they rate each problem,
because the rating will be the same on the other OS.

http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report

This is much the same report you can find almost everywhere if you are
looking.  The more interesting part is the comments from readers.

Also of note this week, the cansecwest conference is coming up.  The guy who
took down OS X last year, Charlie Miller, is predicting os x/safari will get
taken down again as quickly as last year.  Course this is a neat trick but
hardly something you hear about out in the real world.  There is an
interesting corealation between reports that OSX has more vulnerabilities
from secunia and in these conferences gets taken down first.   This isn't a
coincedance.  I'm not saying this really matters out in the real world for
mac users since you hardly hear of major security issues on the mac side,
but it does show os x security is more from obscurity.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

  A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox
 greatly
  outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers
 in
  2008

 Computer security companies exist because there are vulnerabilities in
 software. It's in their interest--not yours--to blow the vulnerabilities out
 of proportion to validate their existence. Companies like Mozilla and Apple
 that repair potential vulnerabilities before they become dangerous are a
 threat to the companies that sell security software.

 Consider the source. Consider the motives.



 *
 **  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
 **  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
 *



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]

2009-03-06 Thread mike
I try not to base decisions on feelings, gets you in trouble every time.  I
stick with what works for me.  I'm happy you've admitted finally you are a
MFB, this kind of public statement means you might be halfway to a cure.
Good luck.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 After reading ballmers response I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

 MFBs get that feeling almost every day.

 We reach out to you with our message of hope. You can run OS X on your
 Win box.


 *
 **  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
 **  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
 *



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report

Wow a blog written by a Microsoft employee. That is sure to be objective. 
And he compares the current Vista to an old version of OS X. I wonder why 
he won't compare to the curent version?


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


[CGUYS] mac mini mods

2009-03-06 Thread mike
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/06/owc_mac_mini_upgrades/

Some good links to mod your new mac mini including getting RAM at half
what apple would charge you and pulling the optical for a second drive
to get a good fast RAID going!  Good stuff.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] Firefox jar:file?

2009-03-06 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting gerald ger...@slawecki.com:

in the past, (3.0.1,2,3) if i typed in google, or yahoo, or ebay or   
somesuch, firefox found or made a guess at the site i was looking   
for.  in 3.0.6 and now 3.0.7, i get a response of :


jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files/Mozilla%20Firefox/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/browser-region/region.propertiesgoogle

and file not found.


Works for me. However, you can assure that you'll go to a .com by  
holding down the ctl key while hitting enter. Not only that, but  
shift+enter will send you to a .net address, and  
shift+ctl+enter will get you a .org address.


Just FYI.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef

2009-03-06 Thread Stephen Brownfield
This is an OLD article! The dateline on it is 6/21/07.  I don't believe 
OS 10.5 was released for another month. Vista had barely been out for 6 
months, and it was on so few machines that I'm sure it wasn't targeted 
as much as the other OS (XP, OS X, Linux) mentioned in it.



Tom Piwowar wrote:

http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report



Wow a blog written by a Microsoft employee. That is sure to be objective. 
And he compares the current Vista to an old version of OS X. I wonder why 
he won't compare to the curent version?



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*

  



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] Interesting sound problem (Win XP)

2009-03-06 Thread Eric S. Sande

This is an Intel D975XBX board that I have had no problems with
in the past.  I am sure I am doing something stupid here.


Found the problem, thanks.

I'm kind of embarassed to report the cause.

The keyboard has a row of buttons across the top, two of them,
dead center, are a volume control.

My phone was sitting on them.
 



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
10.4 is the old version?  He'd have to travel through time to have looked at
reports for 10.5

Darn, I forgot he works for Microsoft, so he definitely would. However, 
the rest of us are not living in the past and have been running X.5 for 
the last 15 months.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


[CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Gosh, I knew I was on to something when I suggested that Win 7 was a 
terrible choice for netbooks, but I never expected to see so many folks 
placing real bets against MS.

There are 4 new OSs in the works to replace Windows: Moblin (open source 
financed by Intel), JoliCloud (Linux with an iPhone-like interface), 
Cloud OS (more Linux), and Winki (Linux with an OS X-like interface). Wow!

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/03/netbooks-offer.html


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7

2009-03-06 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

The more competition the better the product.

I love to see this.

Is Linspire (Winspire) still around?

Stewart


At 07:09 PM 3/6/2009, you wrote:

Gosh, I knew I was on to something when I suggested that Win 7 was a
terrible choice for netbooks, but I never expected to see so many folks
placing real bets against MS.

There are 4 new OSs in the works to replace Windows: Moblin (open source
financed by Intel), JoliCloud (Linux with an iPhone-like interface),
Cloud OS (more Linux), and Winki (Linux with an OS X-like interface). Wow!

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/03/netbooks-offer.html


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Dunford
 10.4 is the old version?  He'd have to travel through time to have
 looked at
 reports for 10.5
 
 Darn, I forgot he works for Microsoft, so he definitely would. However,
 the rest of us are not living in the past and have been running X.5 for
 the last 15 months.

I got a fortune cookie today: Wise man always checks date of article before
writing of impossibile things


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Dunford
 Gosh, I knew I was on to something when I suggested that 
 Win 7 was a terrible choice for netbooks

This is an odd commentary, considering that the article talks almost
exclusively about XP (Old school XP in a tiny machine does not work.,
etc.) 

As you are no doubt aware from your extensive experience with Win 7, its
desktop is quite different from the XP desktop, which is what most of the
complaints are about. 


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef

2009-03-06 Thread mike
This was the point...hence the title being 'six month report'

By the time the article was written, vista had a larger market then os x.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Stephen Brownfield
steveei...@verizon.netwrote:

 This is an OLD article! The dateline on it is 6/21/07.  I don't believe OS
 10.5 was released for another month. Vista had barely been out for 6 months,
 and it was on so few machines that I'm sure it wasn't targeted as much as
 the other OS (XP, OS X, Linux) mentioned in it.



 Tom Piwowar wrote:

 http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report



 Wow a blog written by a Microsoft employee. That is sure to be objective.
 And he compares the current Vista to an old version of OS X. I wonder why he
 won't compare to the curent version?


 *
 **  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
 **  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
 *





 *
 **  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
 **  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
 *



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7

2009-03-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 Gosh, I knew I was on to something when I suggested that Win 7 was a
 terrible choice for netbooks, but I never expected to see so many folks
 placing real bets against MS.
 
 There are 4 new OSs in the works to replace Windows: Moblin (open source
 financed by Intel), JoliCloud (Linux with an iPhone-like interface),
 Cloud OS (more Linux), and Winki (Linux with an OS X-like interface). Wow!

It's an expanding market and companies are looking to get in early.  I think
this is great, but the proof is in longevity.  Let's see how many are still
around after 2 or 3 years.

You do understand how entrepreneurial capitalism works, right?


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7

2009-03-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
This is an odd commentary, considering that the article talks almost
exclusively about XP (Old school XP in a tiny machine does not work.

So you predict that MS will contiune to supply XP even after Win 7 starts 
shipping?  Or is this just another mindless defense of all things 
Microsoft?


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7

2009-03-06 Thread mike
From those who have run win 7 on a netbook, it is definitely faster then
vista on the same hardware, the question will end up being how hamstrung
will MS make the netbook version of 7?  To be fair however, it's not as if
these netbooks are being installed with full blown linux either, most are
dumbed down versions to run just a few programs.
After playing with a netbook, I'll keep my full sized laptop and ipod touch
and skip the mid level netbook class.



On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 This is an odd commentary, considering that the article talks almost
 exclusively about XP (Old school XP in a tiny machine does not work.

 So you predict that MS will contiune to supply XP even after Win 7 starts
 shipping?  Or is this just another mindless defense of all things
 Microsoft?


 *
 **  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
 **  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
 *



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] Interesting sound problem (Win XP)

2009-03-06 Thread Richard P.
Thanks for letting us know so we don't get caught in the similar fix.
The same thing could easily happen to my keyboard and it could easily
be missed except for the on-screen display indication anytime the
controls are changed. Sounds like you need a bigger desk :-))

Richard P.


 This is an Intel D975XBX board that I have had no problems with
 in the past.  I am sure I am doing something stupid here.

 Found the problem, thanks.

 I'm kind of embarassed to report the cause.

 The keyboard has a row of buttons across the top, two of them,
 dead center, are a volume control.

 My phone was sitting on them.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Dunford
 This is an odd commentary, considering that the article talks almost
 exclusively about XP (Old school XP in a tiny machine does not work.
 
 So you predict that MS will contiune to supply XP even after Win 7
 starts
 shipping?  Or is this just another mindless defense of all things
 Microsoft?

Say what??? Where on earth does this come from? How could anyone possibly
interpret what I said (which you quoted) as predicting that MS will continue
to supply XP?

I guess this is just another one of your fave straw man arguments, Rush.
Trying to win a discussion by refuting something I didn't say? 


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Dunford
 From those who have run win 7 on a netbook, it is definitely 
 faster then vista on the same hardware, the question will end 
 up being how hamstrung will MS make the netbook version of 7?  
 To be fair however, it's not as if these netbooks are being 
 installed with full blown linux either, most are dumbed down 
 versions to run just a few programs.

True enough. I just thought that using this article to slam Win7 was kinda
weird, on account of its being about XP.

 After playing with a netbook, I'll keep my full sized laptop 
 and ipod touch and skip the mid level netbook class.

No argument there. It's all a matter of what you need. Me, I needed
something that was easy to travel  but had a keyboard, i.e., a netbook. Your
needs are undoubtedly different.


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] mac mini mods

2009-03-06 Thread b_s-wilk

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/06/owc_mac_mini_upgrades/

Some good links to mod your new mac mini including getting RAM at half
what apple would charge you and pulling the optical for a second drive
to get a good fast RAID going!  Good stuff.


We've been buying RAM [and drives and PCI cards] for less than half the 
installed price that Apple charges since at least the mid '90s. Who 
wants a RAID? We don't use RAIDs. They've been obsolete for years. Why 
pull the optical drive? There are external drives with the same 
footprint as a Mini, and other metal, no-fan enclosures that can take 
bigger faster drives without extra noise. Won't adding another drive in 
a plastic box make it too hot without adding a bigger fan [and more noise]?


Cavan will be ordering his extra 2GB RAM for $30-35 depending on the 
price of the day plus shipping at DMS, OtherWorld and Crucial, the same 
places we've been checking for RAM at least since we got a bondi iMac, 
or maybe it was the 7600. No news that we didn't know from Rik here 
either. Besides, build-to-order means they install it for you--that's 
what you pay the big bucks for: convenience.


The author is kidding, right? As a long-time Mac user and editor of a 
Mac magazine, writing in the Register, that's the stupidest column Rik 
Myslewski's written, unless he's kidding. No wonder MacAddict faded away 
with an editor like that.


Betty


*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*


Re: [CGUYS] mac mini mods

2009-03-06 Thread mike
Not sure where RAID is obsolete, not sure what you would use in it's place
either.  I just set up a RAID 1 with my new TB hard drives.  Is there some
way easier and safer?

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/06/owc_mac_mini_upgrades/

 Some good links to mod your new mac mini including getting RAM at half
 what apple would charge you and pulling the optical for a second drive
 to get a good fast RAID going!  Good stuff.


 We've been buying RAM [and drives and PCI cards] for less than half the
 installed price that Apple charges since at least the mid '90s. Who wants a
 RAID? We don't use RAIDs. They've been obsolete for years. Why pull the
 optical drive? There are external drives with the same footprint as a Mini,
 and other metal, no-fan enclosures that can take bigger faster drives
 without extra noise. Won't adding another drive in a plastic box make it too
 hot without adding a bigger fan [and more noise]?

 Cavan will be ordering his extra 2GB RAM for $30-35 depending on the price
 of the day plus shipping at DMS, OtherWorld and Crucial, the same places
 we've been checking for RAM at least since we got a bondi iMac, or maybe it
 was the 7600. No news that we didn't know from Rik here either. Besides,
 build-to-order means they install it for you--that's what you pay the big
 bucks for: convenience.

 The author is kidding, right? As a long-time Mac user and editor of a Mac
 magazine, writing in the Register, that's the stupidest column Rik
 Myslewski's written, unless he's kidding. No wonder MacAddict faded away
 with an editor like that.

 Betty


 *
 **  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
 **  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
 *



*
**  List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy  **
**  policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/  **
*