[CGUYS] Firefox
A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in 2008 Now, don't anyone (yes, you) get all silly sarcastic about WFBs and so forth. I use Firefox. I just thought it was interesting. http://tinyurl.com/dmq4yw The report does go on to say that Mozilla reacts to issues faster than MS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox jar:file?
in the past, (3.0.1,2,3) if i typed in google, or yahoo, or ebay or somesuch, firefox found or made a guess at the site i was looking for. in 3.0.6 and now 3.0.7, i get a response of : jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files/Mozilla%20Firefox/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/browser-region/region.propertiesgoogle and file not found. is this feature lost forever, or is there some way to get it back? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox jar:file?
jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files/Mozilla%20Firefox/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/ browser-region/region.propertiesgoogle and file not found. A jar is a Java library. Looks like one of yours is missing or corrupt. I'm guessing that you could fix it by following the path to delete the file, then reinstalling FF. Or some variation on that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Obama picks US information chief
For those not aware: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7927944.stm * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox
A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in 2008 1) How did Secunia count vulnerabilities? The report does not say. The thrust of the Letter from the CEO is that Secunia wants to expand its market to non-Microsoft shops. This report is from their marketing department, not a research department. 2) How did the reporter report on the Secunia report? The reporter could have mentioned other interesting items from the report, but chose not to. For example Secunia counted 9 zero-day vulnerabilities for IE and 3 for everybody else. They also counted 366 Active-X vulnerabilities and just 1 for FireFox plug-ins. The report is very short. I wonder why the reporter chose to provide such a narrow picture. Does eWeek have a bandwidth problem and is telling reporters to keep their stories short? Probably not. If I had the time I would look at other stories by this reporter to look for bias. The 366 Active-X vulnerabilities in 2008 certainly caught my eye. They is way worse than any other product in the report. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox jar:file?
I did some searching and found answers to suggest that the problem may be toolbar-related. I recommend first removing any toolbars or other plugins that may pertain to Google or searching in general. I like your answer better than mine. I missed that. Also FF just had an update. Are you current? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]
If only you worried about this stuff when you link roughlydrafted... Off topic, but you get your 59¢ anyway I guess. RoughlyDrafted is not a corporate mouthpiece. You seem to be most comfortable digesting corporate PR pablum and hate people who observe critically and think for themselves. To others I also recommend DaringFireball.com and AllThingsDigital, allthingsd.com How about when a MS loyalist asks Ballmer... in your presentation you put Windows Mobile right in the center there, but it was a phone that doesn¹t work in America and an operating system that you haven¹t released. I¹m wondering what your commitment is to continuing to get newer versions of the operating system in our hands so that we don¹t have to fight this battle on the ground.² http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090305/hard-to-stand-behind-windows-mobile-when-our-workers-want-iphones/ I won't quote Ballmer's answer because I don't want to be mean. CGuys should be a no pablum zone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]
Tom please do not confuse two things. Many of us cannot stand Ballmer. He is an idiot and should not be atop of the MS corp. Ridicule him all you want he deserves it. Stewart At 11:26 AM 3/6/2009, you wrote: Off topic, but you get your 59¢ anyway I guess. RoughlyDrafted is not a corporate mouthpiece. You seem to be most comfortable digesting corporate PR pablum and hate people who observe critically and think for themselves. To others I also recommend DaringFireball.com and AllThingsDigital, allthingsd.com How about when a MS loyalist asks Ballmer... in your presentation you put Windows Mobile right in the center there, but it was a phone that doesn¹t work in America and an operating system that you haven¹t released. I¹m wondering what your commitment is to continuing to get newer versions of the operating system in our hands so that we don¹t have to fight this battle on the ground.² http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090305/hard-to-stand-behind-windows-mobile-when-our-workers-want-iphones/ I won't quote Ballmer's answer because I don't want to be mean. CGuys should be a no pablum zone. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]
After reading ballmers response I almost feel sorry for him. Almost. Sent from my iPod On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:34, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Tom please do not confuse two things. Many of us cannot stand Ballmer. He is an idiot and should not be atop of the MS corp. Ridicule him all you want he deserves it. Stewart At 11:26 AM 3/6/2009, you wrote: Off topic, but you get your 59¢ anyway I guess. RoughlyDrafted is not a corporate mouthpiece. You seem to be most comfortable digesting corporate PR pablum and hate people who observe critically and think for themselves. To others I also recommend DaringFireball.com and AllThingsDigital, allthingsd.com How about when a MS loyalist asks Ballmer... in your presentation you put Windows Mobile right in the center there, but it was a phone that doesn¹t work in America and an oper ating system that you haven¹t released. I¹m wondering what your co mmitment is to continuing to get newer versions of the operating s ystem in our hands so that we don¹t have to fight this battle on t he ground.² http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090305/hard-to-stand-behind-windows-mobile-when-our-workers-want-iphones/ I won't quote Ballmer's answer because I don't want to be mean. CGuys should be a no pablum zone. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]
Tom please do not confuse two things. Many of us cannot stand Ballmer. He is an idiot and should not be atop of the MS corp. What is thing #2? Now I'm confused. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]
After reading ballmers response I almost feel sorry for him. Almost. MFBs get that feeling almost every day. We reach out to you with our message of hope. You can run OS X on your Win box. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]
in your presentation you put Windows Mobile right in the center there, but it was a phone that doesn¹t work in America and an operating system that you haven¹t released. I¹m wondering what your commitment is to continuing to get newer versions of the operating system in our hands so that we don¹t have to fight this battle on the ground.² It is also interesting how this WFB saw it in militaristic terms. As if people who use the iPhone, Android, or the Pre we being equated to the Taliban. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox
A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in 2008 Computer security companies exist because there are vulnerabilities in software. It's in their interest--not yours--to blow the vulnerabilities out of proportion to validate their existence. Companies like Mozilla and Apple that repair potential vulnerabilities before they become dangerous are a threat to the companies that sell security software. Consider the source. Consider the motives. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I Bought a BIG Mistake
saw both motorolas on ebay last week for chp!! 10 bucks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firefox
Now I've heard the opposite about Apple, that repairs often go unfixed for some time? I suppose if you measure by fixing something before it's used as an attack vector, then the amount of time that's passed between finding it and fixing it is pointless if the attack never came. Generally speaking if you visit secunia, os x has been having a hard time according their reports, but vista has done well. That doesn't sound right if secunia is trying to sell you something...they would be grinding down on the larger market to sell more. Unless they aren't trying to sell anything. All things being equal, if vulnerabilities are measured the same between OS's then it really doesn't matter how they rate each problem, because the rating will be the same on the other OS. http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report This is much the same report you can find almost everywhere if you are looking. The more interesting part is the comments from readers. Also of note this week, the cansecwest conference is coming up. The guy who took down OS X last year, Charlie Miller, is predicting os x/safari will get taken down again as quickly as last year. Course this is a neat trick but hardly something you hear about out in the real world. There is an interesting corealation between reports that OSX has more vulnerabilities from secunia and in these conferences gets taken down first. This isn't a coincedance. I'm not saying this really matters out in the real world for mac users since you hardly hear of major security issues on the mac side, but it does show os x security is more from obscurity. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in 2008 Computer security companies exist because there are vulnerabilities in software. It's in their interest--not yours--to blow the vulnerabilities out of proportion to validate their existence. Companies like Mozilla and Apple that repair potential vulnerabilities before they become dangerous are a threat to the companies that sell security software. Consider the source. Consider the motives. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] No Pablum [Was: Firefox]
I try not to base decisions on feelings, gets you in trouble every time. I stick with what works for me. I'm happy you've admitted finally you are a MFB, this kind of public statement means you might be halfway to a cure. Good luck. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: After reading ballmers response I almost feel sorry for him. Almost. MFBs get that feeling almost every day. We reach out to you with our message of hope. You can run OS X on your Win box. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef
http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report Wow a blog written by a Microsoft employee. That is sure to be objective. And he compares the current Vista to an old version of OS X. I wonder why he won't compare to the curent version? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] mac mini mods
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/06/owc_mac_mini_upgrades/ Some good links to mod your new mac mini including getting RAM at half what apple would charge you and pulling the optical for a second drive to get a good fast RAID going! Good stuff. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox jar:file?
Quoting gerald ger...@slawecki.com: in the past, (3.0.1,2,3) if i typed in google, or yahoo, or ebay or somesuch, firefox found or made a guess at the site i was looking for. in 3.0.6 and now 3.0.7, i get a response of : jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files/Mozilla%20Firefox/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/browser-region/region.propertiesgoogle and file not found. Works for me. However, you can assure that you'll go to a .com by holding down the ctl key while hitting enter. Not only that, but shift+enter will send you to a .net address, and shift+ctl+enter will get you a .org address. Just FYI. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef
This is an OLD article! The dateline on it is 6/21/07. I don't believe OS 10.5 was released for another month. Vista had barely been out for 6 months, and it was on so few machines that I'm sure it wasn't targeted as much as the other OS (XP, OS X, Linux) mentioned in it. Tom Piwowar wrote: http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report Wow a blog written by a Microsoft employee. That is sure to be objective. And he compares the current Vista to an old version of OS X. I wonder why he won't compare to the curent version? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Interesting sound problem (Win XP)
This is an Intel D975XBX board that I have had no problems with in the past. I am sure I am doing something stupid here. Found the problem, thanks. I'm kind of embarassed to report the cause. The keyboard has a row of buttons across the top, two of them, dead center, are a volume control. My phone was sitting on them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef
10.4 is the old version? He'd have to travel through time to have looked at reports for 10.5 Darn, I forgot he works for Microsoft, so he definitely would. However, the rest of us are not living in the past and have been running X.5 for the last 15 months. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7
Gosh, I knew I was on to something when I suggested that Win 7 was a terrible choice for netbooks, but I never expected to see so many folks placing real bets against MS. There are 4 new OSs in the works to replace Windows: Moblin (open source financed by Intel), JoliCloud (Linux with an iPhone-like interface), Cloud OS (more Linux), and Winki (Linux with an OS X-like interface). Wow! http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/03/netbooks-offer.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7
The more competition the better the product. I love to see this. Is Linspire (Winspire) still around? Stewart At 07:09 PM 3/6/2009, you wrote: Gosh, I knew I was on to something when I suggested that Win 7 was a terrible choice for netbooks, but I never expected to see so many folks placing real bets against MS. There are 4 new OSs in the works to replace Windows: Moblin (open source financed by Intel), JoliCloud (Linux with an iPhone-like interface), Cloud OS (more Linux), and Winki (Linux with an OS X-like interface). Wow! http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/03/netbooks-offer.html Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef
10.4 is the old version? He'd have to travel through time to have looked at reports for 10.5 Darn, I forgot he works for Microsoft, so he definitely would. However, the rest of us are not living in the past and have been running X.5 for the last 15 months. I got a fortune cookie today: Wise man always checks date of article before writing of impossibile things * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7
Gosh, I knew I was on to something when I suggested that Win 7 was a terrible choice for netbooks This is an odd commentary, considering that the article talks almost exclusively about XP (Old school XP in a tiny machine does not work., etc.) As you are no doubt aware from your extensive experience with Win 7, its desktop is quite different from the XP desktop, which is what most of the complaints are about. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security and who is to benefit - was: [CGUYS] Firef
This was the point...hence the title being 'six month report' By the time the article was written, vista had a larger market then os x. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.netwrote: This is an OLD article! The dateline on it is 6/21/07. I don't believe OS 10.5 was released for another month. Vista had barely been out for 6 months, and it was on so few machines that I'm sure it wasn't targeted as much as the other OS (XP, OS X, Linux) mentioned in it. Tom Piwowar wrote: http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report Wow a blog written by a Microsoft employee. That is sure to be objective. And he compares the current Vista to an old version of OS X. I wonder why he won't compare to the curent version? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7
Gosh, I knew I was on to something when I suggested that Win 7 was a terrible choice for netbooks, but I never expected to see so many folks placing real bets against MS. There are 4 new OSs in the works to replace Windows: Moblin (open source financed by Intel), JoliCloud (Linux with an iPhone-like interface), Cloud OS (more Linux), and Winki (Linux with an OS X-like interface). Wow! It's an expanding market and companies are looking to get in early. I think this is great, but the proof is in longevity. Let's see how many are still around after 2 or 3 years. You do understand how entrepreneurial capitalism works, right? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7
This is an odd commentary, considering that the article talks almost exclusively about XP (Old school XP in a tiny machine does not work. So you predict that MS will contiune to supply XP even after Win 7 starts shipping? Or is this just another mindless defense of all things Microsoft? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7
From those who have run win 7 on a netbook, it is definitely faster then vista on the same hardware, the question will end up being how hamstrung will MS make the netbook version of 7? To be fair however, it's not as if these netbooks are being installed with full blown linux either, most are dumbed down versions to run just a few programs. After playing with a netbook, I'll keep my full sized laptop and ipod touch and skip the mid level netbook class. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: This is an odd commentary, considering that the article talks almost exclusively about XP (Old school XP in a tiny machine does not work. So you predict that MS will contiune to supply XP even after Win 7 starts shipping? Or is this just another mindless defense of all things Microsoft? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Interesting sound problem (Win XP)
Thanks for letting us know so we don't get caught in the similar fix. The same thing could easily happen to my keyboard and it could easily be missed except for the on-screen display indication anytime the controls are changed. Sounds like you need a bigger desk :-)) Richard P. This is an Intel D975XBX board that I have had no problems with in the past. I am sure I am doing something stupid here. Found the problem, thanks. I'm kind of embarassed to report the cause. The keyboard has a row of buttons across the top, two of them, dead center, are a volume control. My phone was sitting on them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7
This is an odd commentary, considering that the article talks almost exclusively about XP (Old school XP in a tiny machine does not work. So you predict that MS will contiune to supply XP even after Win 7 starts shipping? Or is this just another mindless defense of all things Microsoft? Say what??? Where on earth does this come from? How could anyone possibly interpret what I said (which you quoted) as predicting that MS will continue to supply XP? I guess this is just another one of your fave straw man arguments, Rush. Trying to win a discussion by refuting something I didn't say? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 4 New OSs to Challemge Win 7
From those who have run win 7 on a netbook, it is definitely faster then vista on the same hardware, the question will end up being how hamstrung will MS make the netbook version of 7? To be fair however, it's not as if these netbooks are being installed with full blown linux either, most are dumbed down versions to run just a few programs. True enough. I just thought that using this article to slam Win7 was kinda weird, on account of its being about XP. After playing with a netbook, I'll keep my full sized laptop and ipod touch and skip the mid level netbook class. No argument there. It's all a matter of what you need. Me, I needed something that was easy to travel but had a keyboard, i.e., a netbook. Your needs are undoubtedly different. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] mac mini mods
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/06/owc_mac_mini_upgrades/ Some good links to mod your new mac mini including getting RAM at half what apple would charge you and pulling the optical for a second drive to get a good fast RAID going! Good stuff. We've been buying RAM [and drives and PCI cards] for less than half the installed price that Apple charges since at least the mid '90s. Who wants a RAID? We don't use RAIDs. They've been obsolete for years. Why pull the optical drive? There are external drives with the same footprint as a Mini, and other metal, no-fan enclosures that can take bigger faster drives without extra noise. Won't adding another drive in a plastic box make it too hot without adding a bigger fan [and more noise]? Cavan will be ordering his extra 2GB RAM for $30-35 depending on the price of the day plus shipping at DMS, OtherWorld and Crucial, the same places we've been checking for RAM at least since we got a bondi iMac, or maybe it was the 7600. No news that we didn't know from Rik here either. Besides, build-to-order means they install it for you--that's what you pay the big bucks for: convenience. The author is kidding, right? As a long-time Mac user and editor of a Mac magazine, writing in the Register, that's the stupidest column Rik Myslewski's written, unless he's kidding. No wonder MacAddict faded away with an editor like that. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] mac mini mods
Not sure where RAID is obsolete, not sure what you would use in it's place either. I just set up a RAID 1 with my new TB hard drives. Is there some way easier and safer? On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/06/owc_mac_mini_upgrades/ Some good links to mod your new mac mini including getting RAM at half what apple would charge you and pulling the optical for a second drive to get a good fast RAID going! Good stuff. We've been buying RAM [and drives and PCI cards] for less than half the installed price that Apple charges since at least the mid '90s. Who wants a RAID? We don't use RAIDs. They've been obsolete for years. Why pull the optical drive? There are external drives with the same footprint as a Mini, and other metal, no-fan enclosures that can take bigger faster drives without extra noise. Won't adding another drive in a plastic box make it too hot without adding a bigger fan [and more noise]? Cavan will be ordering his extra 2GB RAM for $30-35 depending on the price of the day plus shipping at DMS, OtherWorld and Crucial, the same places we've been checking for RAM at least since we got a bondi iMac, or maybe it was the 7600. No news that we didn't know from Rik here either. Besides, build-to-order means they install it for you--that's what you pay the big bucks for: convenience. The author is kidding, right? As a long-time Mac user and editor of a Mac magazine, writing in the Register, that's the stupidest column Rik Myslewski's written, unless he's kidding. No wonder MacAddict faded away with an editor like that. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *