Re: [CGUYS] Just When You thought You Could Like Symantec Again.....

2009-03-10 Thread Tony B
Whew. Being a forum admin, I can empathize with the guy.


>    * O LAWD IM CHOKIN ON PIFTS PLZ HALP


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Re: [CGUYS] those pesky browsers!

2009-03-10 Thread katan
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:59:41 -0700, mike wrote:

>Is there a way to have google search only specific sites, like search:imdb
>watchmen  ?

Actually, I think it would go something like:

watchmen site imdb.com

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Re: [CGUYS] Just When You thought You Could Like Symantec Again.....

2009-03-10 Thread Richard P.
Here is an update from Norton: http://tinyurl.com/d5ef7s It was all a
big misunderstanding...

"Hi everyone,

Symantec released a diagnostic patch "PIFTS.exe" targeting Norton
Internet Security and Norton Antivirus 2006 & 2007 users on March 9,
2009. This patch was released for approximately 3 hours (4:30 - 7:40
PM March 9, 2009 Pacific Time). In a case of human error, the patch
was released by Symantec "unsigned", which caused the firewall user
prompt for this file to access the Internet. The firewall alert for
the patch caused understandable concern for users and began to be
reported back to Symantec. Releasing a patch unsigned is an extremely
rare occurrence that does not pose any security issues to our users.
The patch reached a limited number of Norton customers and has
subsequently been pulled from further distribution. Norton users are
fully protected and do not need to take any action as a result of this
issue.

There has been activity in the Norton User Forum related to PIFTS.exe
which has generated additional concern and media speculation.  At
approximately 10:30pmET Monday March 9, Symantec detected that our
User Forum boards were being abused by an individual or individuals.
One individual created a new user account and posted about the name of
the patch executable, PIFTS.exe. Within minutes, several dozen user
accounts were created commenting on the initial thread, and/or
creating new threads on the topic. Over the next few hours, over 200
user accounts were created. Within the first hour there were 600 new
posts on this subject alone. While the intent of the spammer(s)
remains unclear, there were no malicious links and it simply resulted
in a widespread communications challenge for Symantec. Below are some
examples of the forum spam we received from these new user accounts.
These forum posts contained no text in the body of the message, simply
a subject:



* O LAWD IM CHOKIN ON PIFTS PLZ HALP
* OH GOD YOU GOT CHOCOLATE IN MY PIFTS
* If you wanna be my NORTON/ you gotta deal with my P ! F T S . E X E
* IF PIFTS.EXE WAS HERE, THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
* PIFTS.EXE PIFTS.EXE PIFTS.EXE PIFTS.EXE PIFTS.EXE PIFTS.EXE PIFTS.EXE
* I LOVE MY PIFTS.EXE

Symantec strictly adheres to its Norton Community Terms of Service and
does not delete postings unless they are in violation of these
guidelines. Upon determining that our User Forums were being abused,
Symantec began removing the spam posts.
Finally, it has also been reported by the Washington Post that hackers
are taking advantage of this situation. "Some of the top searches
(currently the 3rd and 4th result in a Google search) are Web sites
that try to install malicious software when you visit them." When
searching for information on "pifts.exe," Symantec strongly advises
all users to be wary of following links to unknown sites as malicious
users are attempting to use this hot topic to distribute malware.
The spammers also chose to use the comment area on my blog. I was very
reluctant to turn comments off this morning but when the number of
comments grew to over 100 and began to include profanity and sexual
material, it was time to take action. (We have to keep this site
family friendly!)"
Message Edited by davecole on  03-10-2009 12:45 PM

"I assure you we will be turning commenting back on but will continue
to monitor any possible future signs of abuse, in accordance with our
forum terms of service. I apologize for any inconvenience this
situation may have caused."
marianmerritt

"Just want to add additional comment here because of the inquiries
we've seen coming in to the forum.  There's been speculation that
PIFTS.exe is sending information to a server in Africa, which is
untrue. The servers used by PIFTS.exe are located at a SwapDrive
facility in North America. Symantec completed the acquisition of
SwapDrive in June 2008, so these are indeed Symantec servers. Also,
PIFTS.exe does not collect or send any of our users' personal
information.
We will be posting a technical write-up to the forum soon with further
details on the data PIFTS.exe collects.

Tony Weiss
Norton Forums Administrator
Symantec Corporation "

Richard P.

> From The Washington Post:
>
> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/03/symantec_users_complain_of_mys.html


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Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

2009-03-10 Thread mike
I've read also that they have some unused space on the drives...so a 64 gig
drive might actually be 70 and when certain areas wear out etc, the drive
shifts to these areas.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Tom Piwowar  wrote:

> >I've read that you shouldn't defrag an SSD because A) it doesn't actually
> do
> >any good, and B) it actually reduces the lifespan of the drive since SSD's
> >have a finite read/write lifespan.  No idea if B is actually true, but
> I've
> >read it enough times to lead me to believe that it is.
>
> Yes. When the physical device changes all the operational rules can
> change too. HDs need defragging because of how they are made. SSD is not
> made the same way.
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Re: [CGUYS] those pesky browsers!

2009-03-10 Thread mike
I'd probably switch to chrome or safari 4 if I could just get some plug ins
for search.

Is there a way to have google search only specific sites, like search:imdb
watchmen  ?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Tom Piwowar  wrote:

> >generally I use opera for speed
>
> I'm taking to Chrome when I need to run something complicated. The speed
> is so very nice. I also have FF open and switch over to it whan I need
> its features.
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Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

2009-03-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I've read that you shouldn't defrag an SSD because A) it doesn't actually do
>any good, and B) it actually reduces the lifespan of the drive since SSD's
>have a finite read/write lifespan.  No idea if B is actually true, but I've
>read it enough times to lead me to believe that it is.

Yes. When the physical device changes all the operational rules can 
change too. HDs need defragging because of how they are made. SSD is not 
made the same way.


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Re: [CGUYS] those pesky browsers!

2009-03-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
>generally I use opera for speed

I'm taking to Chrome when I need to run something complicated. The speed 
is so very nice. I also have FF open and switch over to it whan I need 
its features.


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Re: [CGUYS] cricket cell phone...a new twist

2009-03-10 Thread Richard P.
Finally, a keypad I can see without glasses :-)

Richard P.

> It looks like cricket is about to release one of the biggest advancements in
> cell phone technology since the iphone.  They have completely thought out of
> the box on this one, putting in traditional touches with a new twist, they
> expect millions in sales in the first month alone...better have deep pockets
> though.
>
> http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/03/samsung-cricket-worlds-largest-phone.jpg


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Re: [CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo

2009-03-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
>We're interested in using this photo for an exhibit.  There is a statement 
>beneath the photo, where the owner gives up all copyright.  Is this really 
>valid?  There is contact info for the owner, so we could contact him.  
>I've never seen this before; usually we only count any published material 
>before 1923 as public domain.

Most of the Wikipedia art is covered by copyleft. So you might check that 
and if this photo is check with your lawyers about the implications. If 
you incorporate such a photo into any other work the entire work will be 
itself covered by copyleft. So you work goes into the public domain. If 
you don't like that you need to negotiate different terms with the owner.


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Re: [CGUYS] Just When You thought You Could Like Symantec Again.....

2009-03-10 Thread Tony B
Good Luck. I've tried it, and the result was chaos. The browser needs
to interact with the OS. A better approach is a reduced rights model.

>> And OMG simply *reading* about this file may infect people!
>>
>> >Web search for "pifts.exe": Some of the top searches (currently the 3rd
>> >and 4th result in a Google search) are Web sites that try to install
>> >malicious software when you visit them.
>
>
> It may be time to only browse in something like Sandboxie-
> http://www.sandboxie.com/.


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[CGUYS] cricket cell phone...a new twist

2009-03-10 Thread mike
It looks like cricket is about to release one of the biggest advancements in
cell phone technology since the iphone.  They have completely thought out of
the box on this one, putting in traditional touches with a new twist, they
expect millions in sales in the first month alone...better have deep pockets
though.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/03/samsung-cricket-worlds-largest-phone.jpg


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Re: [CGUYS] Just When You thought You Could Like Symantec Again.....

2009-03-10 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Tony B  wrote:

> And OMG simply *reading* about this file may infect people!
>
> >Web search for "pifts.exe": Some of the top searches (currently the 3rd
> >and 4th result in a Google search) are Web sites that try to install
> >malicious software when you visit them.


It may be time to only browse in something like Sandboxie-
http://www.sandboxie.com/.

-- 
John Duncan Yoyo
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Re: [CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo

2009-03-10 Thread Tony B
Why not? All my own photos are the same. It's just a shot of a public spot.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, David Turk  wrote:
> We're interested in using this photo for an exhibit.  There is a statement 
> beneath the photo, where the owner gives up all copyright.  Is this really 
> valid?  There is contact info for the owner, so we could contact him.  I've 
> never seen this before; usually we only count any published material before 
> 1923 as public domain.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lincoln_boyhood_memoral3.jpg


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Re: [CGUYS] Just When You thought You Could Like Symantec Again.....

2009-03-10 Thread Tony B
And OMG simply *reading* about this file may infect people!

>Web search for "pifts.exe": Some of the top searches (currently the 3rd
>and 4th result in a Google search) are Web sites that try to install
>malicious software when you visit them.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM, John Settle  wrote:
> From The Washington Post:
> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/03/symantec_users_complain_of_mys.html


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Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

2009-03-10 Thread Tony B
Garbage collection is a function of the OS, not a defrag app. Run
chkdsk periodically.


On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Paul Meyer  wrote:
> SSD have to fragment in the same way memory
> fragments, due to the Alloc->Delete->Realloc cycle.
> I.e., doesn't there have to be garbage collection?


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Re: [CGUYS] Ergonomic keyboard for broken arm

2009-03-10 Thread Paul Meyer
There are also chording input devices, some of them
are meant to be used one-handed or doubly fast
with two.  You have to learn the chords but, iirc
or am just ad-gullible, the chording is supposed
to quite speedy even one-handed.



- Original Message 
From: db 
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:55:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Ergonomic keyboard for broken arm

Constance,

Sorry that when I made my suggestion I didn't read all of your email ... the 
part about the rotation issue.

I guess what you really need is one of those split vertical keyboards that you 
mention.  They exist ... I've seen pictures of them but that's all

Check out:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=split+vertical+keyboard&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

db

Constance Warner wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion!
> 
> --Constance
> 
> On Jan 29, 2009, at 10:34 PM, db wrote:
> 
>> How about piece of plywood 3 ft. square with a U shape cut out of it ... big 
>> enough for you and your chair... then place it on your desk with the 
>> computer/ monitor and keyboard sitting on the part without the cutout.
>> It should "wrap" around you and provide support for your arm and cast.   If 
>> you make another cut out the shape and location of your keyboard, the 
>> keyboard will be somewhat recessed and allow you to more easily place your 
>> fingers on the keyboard.
>> 
>> Just an idea...
>> 
>> db
>> 
>> Constance Warner wrote:
>>> Hello everyone--I'm looking for an ergonomic keyboard I can use with a 
>>> broken arm.  My fingers stick out of the end of the cast and I can sort of 
>>> wiggle them, maybe enough to type on a computer keyboard.  (I'm using one 
>>> hand to type this, and it's slow and laborious.)
>>> 
>>> The one insurmountable problem: I can't rotate my forearm so that my palm 
>>> faces downward, so that I can actually type with my left hand.  To be 
>>> usable, the keyboard would have to be tilted at a 45 to 90 degree angle 
>>> (with the high point towards the center of the keyboard) for the left hand, 
>>> but with the right-hand portion of the keyboard remaining flat, in the 
>>> normal position.
>>> 
>>> I've seen pictures of odd-looking ergonomic keyboards IN TWO PARTS, or that 
>>> are tilted on an angle.  (If a keyboard were in two parts, I could use it 
>>> at a normal angle for my right hand, but tilt it to a 45 or 90 degree angle 
>>> for my left.)  I've  seen flexible keyboards in stores, but I don't know if 
>>> one of those flexible keyboards would work if you bent it in the middle--or 
>>> even if flexible keyboards  work well under any circumstances.
>>> 
>>> I really need to be able to type, because I  got laid off and I need to 
>>> send out resumes and letters of application.  For my own writing and for 
>>> first drafts, I can use Dragon Naturally Speaking; but I've never gotten 
>>> the error rate down to the point where I could use Dragon for job 
>>> application stuff.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?  Do such keyboards exist, and if so, where can you get 
>>> them?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> --Constance Warner
>>> 
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Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

2009-03-10 Thread Paul Meyer
SSD have to fragment in the same way memory
fragments, due to the Alloc->Delete->Realloc cycle.
I.e., doesn't there have to be garbage collection?



- Original Message 
From: Roger D. Parish 
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:15:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

At 7:39 AM -0400 3/10/09, Jeff Wright wrote:

>  > Cool, The defrag was impressive.  I hear you have to that a lot
>>  with SSD right now.  I was looking at SSD prices recently and
>>  for a decent size they are above 10x the cost of a conventional
>>  drive.
>>
>>  But it WAS very cool.
>
>WAY cool.
>
>I've read that you shouldn't defrag an SSD because A) it doesn't actually do
>any good, and B) it actually reduces the lifespan of the drive since SSD's
>have a finite read/write lifespan.  No idea if B is actually true, but I've
>read it enough times to lead me to believe that it is.

I've heard/read that SSD's (even thumb drives) actually randomize the 
physical location of written data in order to "spread out" the 
writing, so a  given memory cell doesn't wear out before any other. 
Seems like it was Steve Gibson (grc.com) on Security Now podcast that 
explained this.
-- 
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Lovettsville, VA


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[CGUYS] those pesky browsers!

2009-03-10 Thread rleesimon
generally I use opera for speed and customizations and to stick my foot in
the rest ...but one thing I need and like is google's video chat to talk to
family abroad ...I cannot get the plug-in to work with opera and hafta keep
m$ie7 open in back to be available for the chat ...cost is about 75-90k ram
and same goes for the other ones that work with google video chat (chrome,
safari) ...but, now I see this "green browser" which has 1/2 the footprint
and seems to work ok for this ...anyone know something about this thing?


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Re: [CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo

2009-03-10 Thread gerald
I think i would contact the owner of the copyright and get a written release 
from him.  there is a copyright problem if you are to profit from this image, 
unless he releases the image.

copyright law for artistic items is really screwed up.  you may need a release 
from the guy who made the carving, although it looks pretty wpa to me.  if wpa, 
no copyright.  and i think the guy can not get a copyright to hold up.

wonder why the guy shot it at a diagonal.  

At 12:08 PM 3/10/2009, you wrote:
>We're interested in using this photo for an exhibit.  There is a statement 
>beneath the photo, where the owner gives up all copyright.  Is this really 
>valid?  There is contact info for the owner, so we could contact him.  I've 
>never seen this before; usually we only count any published material before 
>1923 as public domain.
>
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lincoln_boyhood_memoral3.jpg
>
>tia.
>
>   david
>
>
>David Turk
>Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
>Indiana Historical Society
>Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center
>450 W. Ohio St.
>Indianapolis, IN  46202
>(317) 232-4592
>dt...@indianahistory.org
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[CGUYS] Just When You thought You Could Like Symantec Again.....

2009-03-10 Thread John Settle

From The Washington Post:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/03/symantec_users_complain_of_mys.html 



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[CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo

2009-03-10 Thread David Turk
We're interested in using this photo for an exhibit.  There is a statement 
beneath the photo, where the owner gives up all copyright.  Is this really 
valid?  There is contact info for the owner, so we could contact him.  I've 
never seen this before; usually we only count any published material before 
1923 as public domain.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lincoln_boyhood_memoral3.jpg

tia.

   david


David Turk
Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
Indiana Historical Society
Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center
450 W. Ohio St.
Indianapolis, IN  46202
(317) 232-4592
dt...@indianahistory.org
 


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Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

2009-03-10 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting "Roger D. Parish" :


At 7:39 AM -0400 3/10/09, Jeff Wright wrote:


I've read that you shouldn't defrag an SSD because A) it doesn't actually do
any good, and B) it actually reduces the lifespan of the drive since SSD's
have a finite read/write lifespan.  No idea if B is actually true, but I've
read it enough times to lead me to believe that it is.


I've heard/read that SSD's (even thumb drives) actually randomize the
physical location of written data in order to "spread out" the writing,
so a  given memory cell doesn't wear out before any other. Seems like


And it actually seems kind of pointless. Defragging a spinning disk  
keeps the heads from thrashing all over the place finding bits and  
pieces of files, but with an SSD, it's just as much effort to pick up  
the bits anywhere on the "disk".


I can't imagine that it would speed things up that much.


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Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

2009-03-10 Thread Roger D. Parish

At 7:39 AM -0400 3/10/09, Jeff Wright wrote:


 > Cool, The defrag was impressive.  I hear you have to that a lot

 with SSD right now.  I was looking at SSD prices recently and
 for a decent size they are above 10x the cost of a conventional
 drive.

 But it WAS very cool.


WAY cool.

I've read that you shouldn't defrag an SSD because A) it doesn't actually do
any good, and B) it actually reduces the lifespan of the drive since SSD's
have a finite read/write lifespan.  No idea if B is actually true, but I've
read it enough times to lead me to believe that it is.


I've heard/read that SSD's (even thumb drives) actually randomize the 
physical location of written data in order to "spread out" the 
writing, so a  given memory cell doesn't wear out before any other. 
Seems like it was Steve Gibson (grc.com) on Security Now podcast that 
explained this.

--
Roger
Lovettsville, VA


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Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

2009-03-10 Thread Jeff Wright
> Cool, The defrag was impressive.  I hear you have to that a lot
> with SSD right now.  I was looking at SSD prices recently and
> for a decent size they are above 10x the cost of a conventional
> drive.
> 
> But it WAS very cool.

WAY cool.

I've read that you shouldn't defrag an SSD because A) it doesn't actually do
any good, and B) it actually reduces the lifespan of the drive since SSD's
have a finite read/write lifespan.  No idea if B is actually true, but I've
read it enough times to lead me to believe that it is.


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Re: [CGUYS] crazy fast

2009-03-10 Thread Jeff Wright
> http://tinyurl.com/cp75bm
> 
> These guys RAID'd 24 samsung ssd drives to get 2GB/s speed.  Crazy
> fast.

That is my idea of fun.


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