Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-20 Thread mike
If music isn't your thing, that's ok. For some people it's in their lives more. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Well anyone that would find it hard to buy ten songs a month...who bought into a service because they love getting new music, must have other

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-20 Thread mike
I figured you had pulled this one from your nether regions...just wanted to hear you say it. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: And where are your surveys that they stay in service for twice as long? Please provide irrefutable evidence of your existence.

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-20 Thread Jeff Miles
Please remind me where this comes from. I'm trying to think. Mason Williams comes to mind. There are no empty tabasco sauce bottles. Jeff M On May 19, 2009, at 10:12 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I don't just think I AM, I know I AM, that is why I wrote I AM. (It is also a theological pun) Stewart At 12:12 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I AM. Therefore I exist. I think therefore I am, I think. --

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-20 Thread mike
Pot calling kettle... I give what I get from Tom. I asked nicely, he non answered in his own smartass way. I replied in kind. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Perhaps the fact that you seem to go out of your way to disparage him may have

Re: [CGUYS] NeoOffice 3.0/Mac PPC or Intel vs. OpenOffice 2.4/Mac PPC vs. OpenOffice 3.1/Mac Intel ?

2009-05-20 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Alvin Auerbach alvin.auerb...@verizon.net wrote: I think that for now I'm better off using NeoOffice 3.0 rather than OpenOffice 2.4, and that when I get an iMac Intel, evaluate switching from NeoOffice X.Y to OpenOffice X.(Y+1). Opinions? Use what will work

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
I figured you had pulled this one from your nether regions...just wanted to hear you say it. I know your shtick. Challenge everything. Deny everything. The classic OJ defense. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-20 Thread mike
I know your shtick, make up everything, prove nothing...keep moving and jabbing till they give up on trying to get some truth out of you. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I figured you had pulled this one from your nether regions...just wanted to hear you say

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox tabs error

2009-05-20 Thread b_s-wilk
When I right click on a link that turns out to be dead... and tell it to open in a new tab, it opens up a Can't find this page message... on every open window I have. Broadbandreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/ has a list of DNS servers you can use. Switch DNS. I have several Locations

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes and no. Music is Music. CD/DVD/LP/Cassette/MP3 are all mediums to deliver the content of music. Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. The medium it is presented in determines how it can be used. When I was in school we carried books, and marked them according to

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-20 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Perhaps the fact that you seem to go out of your way to disparage him may have something to do with how he addresses you? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Thanks...that's all I was asking. Instead we get more smartass from Tom.

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
Those who support physically abusive interrogation techniques, AKA torture when done to us, simply say that it is righteous when we do it because we are the good guys. That and just following orders are the classic defenses. Closer to topic another such bogus defense is to blame your evil

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-20 Thread mike
Thanks...that's all I was asking. Instead we get more smartass from Tom. Thanks, Betty. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:04 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: And where are your surveys that they stay in service for twice as long? The Gartner Group has done several detailed studies and

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
I hope the electronic Kindle, and the like, doesn't replace printed books. Are electronic books sufficiently similar to MP3s that they will do to books what MP3s did to CDs? * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-20 Thread mike
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were talking about. You seem to like doing that, change what is true into what is not, then argue that. You end up arguing with yourself more then anyone else this way. I can imagine seeing you in a grocery..alone in the

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread db
I'm not necessarily a proponent for electronic readers but just note that with Kindle you can take notes on pages, insert bookmarks etc... Never done it myself but just know that you can. One thing about all electronic data systems ... e-publishing systems being one of them ... it seems to

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Steve at Verizon
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread mike
I listen to audiobooks all the time, but always in situations where books wouldn't do well. At work at times, in the car a lot...they are fantastic for long commutes. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev.

[CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer

2009-05-20 Thread Kathy Bilton
Hi - I just got a new little Compaq cheapie computer (CQ2009 Desktop PC) for my mom to replace her old one. I turned the old one off - monitor working just fine. Started hooking up the new computer (attached Envision monitor which has always worked perfectly, keyboard, etc.) Turned on the

Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer

2009-05-20 Thread Matthew Taylor
Can you try the monitor on another computer? Even try it on the old one would be a valid test of the monitor's health. On May 20, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Kathy Bilton wrote: Hi - I just got a new little Compaq cheapie computer (CQ2009 Desktop PC) for my mom to replace her old one. I turned

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Steve at Verizon
Somewhat the same here. Audiobooks are great when spending an otherwise boring 45 minutes on a treadmill. Or that 5 hour drive to NY. I also enjoy a half hour listen after turning out the lights in bed. Like being read to as a kid. Didn't mean to sound like an audiobook fanatic. I fully

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That was exactly what I was getting at. IN some instances an audio book is great. In other instances it does not translate well. I am a great fan of the Audio book reader on NPR, and he usually reads light fiction which works well. A more intense book, such as a work volume takes more

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
In a loose way, our current financial market derivatives problem is a metaphor that illustrates how that kind of centralized dependence can ultimately let us down in big ways... Close to on topic would be making this connection with music subscription services.

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Richard P.
The last audio book I listened to in the car had a very intense passage which I was deeply involved in. Right up to the point where the officer pulled me over for missing the 30mph speed limit sign after exiting the expressway. He did let me go after hearing my excuse. I now use audio books in a

Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were talking about. You seem to like doing that, change what is true into what is not, then argue that. You end up arguing with yourself more then anyone else this way. I can imagine seeing you in a grocery..alone in the

Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer

2009-05-20 Thread Kathy Bilton
Wed, 20 May 2009, at about 17:55, Matthew Taylor averred: :Can you try the monitor on another computer? Even try it on the old one would :be a valid test of the monitor's health. The light on the monitor no longer comes on when one tries to turn it on even when it's just plugged into the

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Jeff Miles
I totally agree about the need for books. There's nothing like the nostalgic feeling that comes from smelling a musty book pulled from the shelves. I love Macs, but will never get that feeling if I came across my old GS 2. Books are so physical. So is my cell phone, but in a very different

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I know. I have a partial set of books published before the revolutionary war, Hard bound in Leather with old pages and old German script. Recalling the history of those books and what they must of meant for the owners over the centuries is awesome. Stewart At 07:54 PM 5/20/2009, you

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Jeff Miles
I wanted to add to this after reading some of the other comments. To each their own. But for me a book on an electronic screen or being read to me is much like the read me files that come with applications. I rarely read them. With the exception of email, the closest I've come to really

Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer

2009-05-20 Thread Tony B
Was it one of those nasty old D-sub monitor connectors? I once managed to bend pins in one of those suckers. The wire was hard-wired to the old monitor so I basically had to buy a new monitor. Or maybe I managed to bend it back; I can't remember. I dunno if the power light means much anymore.

[CGUYS] urgent query

2009-05-20 Thread Marcia Kupfer
Hello! I'm new to the list, having joined for the express purpose of asking the following question. (I take it there is no way to search an archive of the list). I love my Imac 24. But for my research I have to travel abroad periodically -- say, for up to 4-6 weeks at a time once a year.

Re: [CGUYS] urgent query

2009-05-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I think the answer to all your questions are yes. They have multiple USB connectors which is the newest choice for the Phone dongles. They do not have PCMCIA card slots so be aware of that. Also you will need a external CD/DVD to load any CD/DVD based programs. Instead of using MS Office,

Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer

2009-05-20 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
Your monitor has died. RIP. Time for a new one. - Original Message - From: Kathy Bilton ka...@fred.net To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer Wed, 20 May 2009, at about 17:55,

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-20 Thread b_s-wilk
Marcio wrote: Computers are more or less like womem. When they are working well... wonderfull but when they refuse to respond to our needs...it is very hard to understand... We like it that way. Thanks for noticing. *