Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: I maintain that within 5 years, the iPhone will be a bit player in the mobile device market. Way too much competition coming down the pike. With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for the competitors it is going to be

[CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

2009-08-08 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:05 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I must say that I find folks who I know who emotionally tell me how much they love their iPhone to be sounding a bit needy. Kinda weird to get that wrapped up about a phone, IMHO. Same emotions were expressed by people who lost their

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: You mean like ordering the $700 program when the $90 program works just as well? Good example. Imperial IT management always assumes that they know how to do everybody's job better than the people who were hired to do the job. I

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: You can expect it all you want. *All* OSes have patches that need to be applied and hardware should have its firmware at the latest spec at least annually. A properly engineered OS does not need to be restarted when patches are applied.

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread mike
How about little facts like areas with high gun control have higher crimes committed with said weapon and areas with concealed carry laws have less crime? I know silly little facts bug you leftists...get in the way of getting rid of that pesky constitution. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread mike
This is Tom saying 'no I can't, I'm just blowing it out my ass as usual'. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:57 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the reasons why it is vastly inferior for me?

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread Eric S. Sande
Where to mount your gun rack is marginally on topic. You know where you can mount it. :-) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread Eric S. Sande
How about little facts... Forget it, mike, this is not about facts. It is about what Tom believes. Don't get me wrong, I actually respect Tom when he is in Dr Piwowar mode. When he is in Mr Hyde mode there is no reasoning with him. Save the evidence, there is no indication that Mr Hyde can

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the reasons why it is vastly inferior for me? Thanks. You birthers are all the same. M$ has published the specs. Do you really think touching one is going to release some magical electro- magnetic flux that will make me fall madly

[CGUYS] HP Drivers Nuts Time Machine Madness [Was: Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat]

2009-08-08 Thread Rich Schinnell
Another view on HP scanners: I have a dr's office that has scanned over 56,000 patient records/files into .PDF's and their HP scanners, while not the cheap ones, have worked very well and produced quality scans. It has saved them considerable floor space for file cabinets. Another law

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com: On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: You can expect it all you want. *All* OSes have patches that need to be applied and hardware should have its firmware at the latest spec at least annually. A properly engineered OS does not need to be restarted

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:51 AM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: Today the radical right announced a move to allow gun carry in DC. This would allow the driver to fire off a few warning rounds to discourage you from blocking their right of way. No word on where gun racks would be allowed in

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

2009-08-08 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:18 AM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: I still feel pangs of sadness over OS 9. Apple's OS X is a poor imitation. The new OS does not help me as much as the old one did. I finally stopped using OS 9 only a few weeks ago. I am still using it. If you can't get

Re: [CGUYS] Scanners; was . . .

2009-08-08 Thread Fred Holmes
What is your opinion of Fujitsu scanners? They are not twain compliant and thus do not produce .gif, .tiff, etc. but they do produce .pdf and also, selectably, .jpg files. I find my Fujitsu to be particularly good at making readable copy of faint documents. The sheet feeder often skews the

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs. That is what makes it an issue. I don't think I've ever known anyone with such a strong

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple appears to be its own worst

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Tom you must lead a sheltered life. If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back window of your pick up truck along with a fishing rod or two. Plus the required empty beer cans in the bed. Stewart At 11:51 PM 8/7/2009, you wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Constance

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
Good example. Imperial IT management always assumes that they know how to do everybody's job better than the people who were hired to do the job. Tom is certified by the National Association of Petulance. He knows what he's talking about. I would love to see Tom's client list one day. I

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got to shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now, or wait 'till later. I can't find the Start Button, so it *must* be OSX. Tom also never moves off of v. 1.0 of his applications. Those later versions are just

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK I will bite on this one. Obviously you have never had to live within budgets. Very often many of us are being asked to do more with LESS Which means the $700 program is not an option as we cannot afford it. We have to make the bucks stretch over a bigger area. So that means we do with

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
If you can't get emotional about technology,what are you doing here? Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are other, more secure and padded places you should be. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You mean the ubiquitous 9th floor variety? Stewart At 09:35 AM 8/8/2009, you wrote: If you can't get emotional about technology,what are you doing here? Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are other, more secure and padded places you should be.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jordan
Jeff Wright wrote: With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple appears to be

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
This discussion is pretty much pure speculation but: The iPhone wasn't just first, it was about a generation and a half ahead. Given Apple's history of innovation it's more likely that they will innovate again than drop from popularity. You'll notice that first was in quotes in my post. Very

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs. That is what makes it an issue. Let's get one thing clear right now. I don't constantly talk

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jordan
Jeff Wright wrote: Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs. That is what makes it an issue. I don't think I've ever known anyone

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
Every right winger like yourself has a stronger reality distortion field. Now go back to your worship of Dick and Sara and leave the rational discussion to others. You know Jordan, I want to be nice to you, I really do. But then, you shoot your mouth off with such blinding, illiterate and

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread David K Watson
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app. And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that came with version 2 of the OS. From:mike

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread mike
More in reference to the iphone. Most of these references are in the middle of reviews of phones such as the palm or the hero coming out in the US soon. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:10 AM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote: I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become,

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote: I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app. And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Palm, Sony, IBM, Apple, Xerox, etc. Being first isn't first is no guarantee of being the last man standing. All of these companies were innovative, all had a dominant lock on their market and all were soon surpassed by competitors with better

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote: That said, I'm happy with a regular iPod and the simplest of phones. I can ooo and aaah over the latest iGadgets and Palms without really wanting one. I also don't have chunks of time, like a commute, where I could use one. Me too, but it is

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: You'll notice that first was in quotes in my post. Very few companies are literally first, but they were the first with a successful and popular implementation of their product. In quotes splitting hairs.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
I've read that M$ is giving away loads of Zune HDs to industry bloggers and writers. That will no doubt generate lots of sycophantic stories for you to quote. Proving nothing. Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread mike
Often, all the time in fact. Right now. I'm lying right now. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote: I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can you point me to one of those blogs? On the other

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread mike
It's nice to know you've already decided to not believe any reviews of the product, makes it so you won't have to read any...not that you would, or even touch the device once it is out. This makes life so easy on you I imagine..no actual thought needed. Fits your MO. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at

[CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi, and use one

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:07 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I just cannot get to the point of excessively using the L word, labially caressing each letter as they pass through my lips. I am just saying that I cringe a bit when I hear things like, Oh God, I LOOOVE my new phone S much. Chances

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are other, more secure and padded places you should be. You get plenty emotional over technology. It just doesn't seem to bring out as much love in you as it does the

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior. Birther. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Reid Katan wrote: That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got to shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now, or wait 'till later. I can't find the Start Button, so it *must* be OSX. I suggest moving your lips as you

Re: [CGUYS] Scanners; was . . .

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: What is your opinion of Fujitsu scanners? They are not twain compliant and thus do not produce .gif, .tiff, etc. but they do produce .pdf and also, selectably, .jpg files. I find my Fujitsu to be particularly good at making readable copy of

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:50 AM, mike wrote: How about little facts like areas with high gun control have higher crimes committed with said weapon and areas with concealed carry laws have less crime? I know silly little facts bug you leftists...get in the way of getting rid of that pesky

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread mike
Because if you were asked to use it you would have to admit you have no idea how. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:15 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:50 AM, mike wrote: Why can't I walk into the Capitol with a Leatherman toolkit attached to my belt?

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior. Birther. Yes, apparently you are. We ask birthers for their reasoning, and we get none, just statements of fact with no supporting evidence. Precisely what you're doing right

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jordan
TPiwowar wrote: On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote: That said, I'm happy with a regular iPod and the simplest of phones. I can ooo and aaah over the latest iGadgets and Palms without really wanting one. I also don't have chunks of time, like a commute, where I could use one. Me too,

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread David K Watson
Yes, but Apple wasn't first in either the music player or smart phone markets. Both markets were considered to be fairly stable and buttoned down until Apple came along and churned them up again. Remember this review of the first iPod: No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.? Of course it

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jordan
Jeff Wright wrote: Every right winger like yourself has a stronger reality distortion field. Now go back to your worship of Dick and Sara and leave the rational discussion to others. You know Jordan, I want to be nice to you, I really do. I an truly blessed! But then, you shoot your

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back window of your pick up truck along with a fishing rod or two. But then where do I hang the Stars and Bars?

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 4:08 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: The gun discussion is not repeat NOT something that we need to bring up on this list. It is totally off topic unless we agree that it has relevance, which it does not. Deal. This OT topic is dead.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread David K Watson
Any examples would be appreciated. Google didn't really help me. I suppose I should try Bing, in light of recent stories that it is slanting its searches to be anti-Apple, but I'd like to know some examples of what it is that you are reading. On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:58 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You dummy that is attached to the big ol CB antenna mounted to the bed of the PU. Or as a decal on the back window. Stewart At 01:30 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back window of

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
But consider the case Mike made for the Zune, a few posts back. If it was cited in an advertisement, it would read something like: Mike says: 'superior processor' . 'interface is at worst just fine'. 'what is there to complain about except lateness issue?' (Exact quotes, and I tried to not

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread Christopher Range
b_s-wilk wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi,

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread mike
Gimme a day or two..I'm not trying to avoid it, I've just looked at probably 50 youtube video reviews of iphone/pre/htc touch/htc diamond and a few others along with reading about 50 blogs and review sites from the little known to engadget about all the previously listed phones. All I meant to

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK that voyeuristic link was for? :-) Stewart At 01:48 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: b_s-wilk wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I suppose you could do this with

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:53 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I'm not getting it. The N3555 is a very uninteresting phone. Is the idea that I have to carry a laptop with me all the time to get the benefits of the data connection. Can

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread Christopher Range
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: OK that voyeuristic link was for? :-) Stewart That was a personal link in my original reply. I never intended to send that link because, that is my fiance. Thankfully Yahoo will be giving Geocities the ax. Christopher

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread Christopher Range
b_s-wilk wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi,

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread David K Watson
This sounds too much like the children's argument, I know you are, but what am I?. Rather than waiting for the No you are from Tom, and a No YOU are back from you, I beg you: Please, one of you make an actual point instead of going around in circles like this, or let it drop. Of course, that

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I gathered that but was wondering why you sent us to that site? :-) Stewart At 02:15 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: b_s-wilk wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
An you have the temerity to accuse me of having a reality distortion field? Your beloved M$ is moving in a clockwise direction in the Southern Hemisphere, and in a counterclockwise direction in the Northern Hemisphere. Yes, I do, and it's at full power right now. Name one instance where MS

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
These views were from the hardcore of the gadget world, not pc mag or such mainstream review sites. Oops. I'm sure you meant M$ lackeys, not PC Mag. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
I beg you: Please, one of you make an actual point instead of going around in circles like this, or let it drop. I made a point. I asked for his reasons why Zune HD is vastly inferior. Three times. A pretty reasonable request, I thought. He responds, Birther. WTF?

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I'm not getting it. The N3555 is a very uninteresting phone. Is the idea that I have to carry a laptop with me all the time to get the benefits of the data connection. Can I tether it to a smart phone that will make use of

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating http://www.sarvalues.com/what-is-sar.html That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're tethering your phone or using a wired headset. Most [none?] of those phones aren't being sold any more. I'd love to have a

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The basic theme that I got from it was, At the very worst it matches iPod Touch, which you like, so what's your real beef? When did Apple introduce the iPod Touch that you are comparing the as yet unreleased Zune HD to? Reviewers are

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread mike
It's easy...yer a birther..a pinhead, a neocon drone. You lack any skills of perception, you listen to rush, to hannity and oreilly. You aren't worth commenting on, the question itself lacks merit because YOU do. Nevermind he can't back up a thing he says and that's why the name calling starts.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Name one instance where MS was first with something. I'll wait. Does it have to be legal? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread mike
All those damn HDTV vendors! LIARS! They sell their so called HDTV's with NO content and NO way to play HD unless you freakin BUY a blu ray player or purchase sat/cable HD. What liars! On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Chris Dunford

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Want to talk about lairs? Went to my cable providers website this week. Saw an ad advertising 10mps cable Internet service for 39.95. I called up their chat feature to see about getting this service for 39.95 and was told I could not have it at that price it would cost me 54.95 a month.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
Reviewers are already commenting that HD is false advertising. To display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also sold separately). There's an app for that. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread db
So what was the consensus... a viable strategy or currently irrelevant? db b_s-wilk wrote: The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating http://www.sarvalues.com/what-is-sar.html That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're tethering your phone or using a

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread David K Watson
It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great, which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right that I should've let Mike speak

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
Reviewers are already commenting that HD is false advertising. To display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also sold separately). So typically M$ to launch a new product with a lie. Sort of like an HD video player. I've heard you need a TV for those too. Still no list of

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread mike
I wasn't giving a review of the unit when I said that. My point was that the worst that could be said about it is, that it's just fine. My point being that only Tom in his hatred of MS could say the zune interface is an abortion. Anyone with an open mind and common sense could see the interface

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Reid Katan
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I've read that M$ is giving away loads of Zune HDs to industry bloggers and writers. That will no doubt generate lots of sycophantic stories for you to quote. Proving nothing. Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: It's nice to know

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great, which matches the impressions I've gathered Actually, most of the reviews I've read really

[CGUYS] LISTSERV

2009-08-08 Thread Jordan
I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved with. I've started looking at some manuals from L-Soft and AOL, and they are voluminous. The LISTSERV list owners guide looks like it will tell

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great, which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right that I should've let Mike

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:19 PM, mike wrote: My point being that only Tom in his hatred of MS could say the zune interface is an abortion. Except that Tom did not say that. Otherwise you are fine. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Jordan wrote: I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved with. I've started looking at some manuals from L-Soft and AOL, and they are voluminous. The

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:52 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: It's that many 3G GSM phones can be used for a data plan that costs much less than most other plans per month. I'm not touting that phone or the provider. Any provider with that rate will be fine. The iPhone is GSM, isn't it? Has anybody tried

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread Christopher Range
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I gathered that but was wondering why you sent us to that site? :-) Stewart Because, The cell phone companies are always pitching phones with supposedly great features. Yet, They never mention the SAR(Specific Absorption Rate) of the phone. If it is rated

[CGUYS] jason calacanis essay on apple

2009-08-08 Thread mike
An interesting essay on what apple was, is and becoming. One theme being that apple has become even more the anti competitive villain then MS ever was. His example being that at it's worst, you could always install another browser on windows, but with the iphone, apple forbids the use of any

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

2009-08-08 Thread Christopher Range
b_s-wilk wrote: The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating http://www.sarvalues.com/what-is-sar.html That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're tethering your phone or using a wired headset. Most [none?] of those phones aren't being sold any more. I'd

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

2009-08-08 Thread Judy Cosler
yahoo On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved with. I've started looking at some manuals from L-Soft and AOL, and

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Obviously you have never had to live within budgets. Very often many of us are being asked to do more with LESS There are two ways to handle budget problems. One is to cut back, fire highest-paid staff, run with the cheapest

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
There are two ways to handle budget problems. Therein lies your problem: a total and complete lack of vision. The real world isn't binary. I'll leave it to our sad sack WFBs to struggle with doing less with less. We do just fine, since we don't have to pay the Apple tax.

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK I know I asked for you to respond but you are being a plain old mass about it. Tom many non-profits have very slim line budgets a few people on their staff and many many volunteer workers. We don't get the cheapest but we cannot afford the most expensive. So unless you are paying the

Re: [CGUYS] Billable hours software?

2009-08-08 Thread db
Anyone have recommendations for a billable hours tracking software that is cross platform, can export to spreadsheet and can also be used with various PDA / Smartphone platforms? db * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Agreed yahoogroups. Stewart At 06:40 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: yahoo On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved with.

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Agreed yahoogroups. Look at both. They offer different services. Let you needs determine your choice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] jason calacanis essay on apple

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:33 PM, mike wrote: That is a link to his listerv, you would have to subscribe to read the post, you could unsub after if you like however his posts are few and far so it's not a big deal. I'd post the article here but he requests that any repost be given permission

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom many non-profits have very slim line budgets a few people on their staff and many many volunteer workers. Yes, bad management tends to be a problem. I recently watched a once prosperous church go through a change in management.

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com: On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Reid Katan wrote: That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got to shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now, I suggest moving your lips as you read or maybe reading aloud. I wrote That's

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Tom 80% of the population go to megachurches. However 80% of our churches are smaller single staff churches. The only paid staff is me and I am there whenever they want me and do a lot of work at home also. Churches cannot be run like businesses. They are churches whole different ball

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
Yes, bad management tends to be a problem. Ya think? Is this your flow chart? Bad management? Yes | | V Yes Non-profits can have funding issues for all sorts of reasons aside from management. Changes in city or state administrations can change funding

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
In many cases when a supporter dies the non-profit gets zilch. Families have a tendency to look out for families. I have had a few that before they got sick took the unprecedented step of setting up trusts/endowments to look after non-profit or the aims of the non-profit. It is not common

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Churches cannot be run like businesses. They are churches whole different ball game. By the way the management of any church is the parishioners! I wholeheartedly agree with you. But those of us who believe in the free market also

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