On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
I maintain that within 5 years, the iPhone will be a bit player in the
mobile device market. Way too much competition coming down the pike.
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for
the competitors it is going to be
On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:05 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I must say that I find folks who I know who emotionally tell me how
much they love their iPhone to be sounding a bit needy. Kinda weird
to get that wrapped up about a phone, IMHO.
Same emotions were expressed by people who lost their
On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
You mean like ordering the $700 program when the $90 program works
just as well?
Good example. Imperial IT management always assumes that they know how
to do everybody's job better than the people who were hired to do the
job.
I
On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
You can expect it all you want. *All* OSes have patches that need
to be
applied and hardware should have its firmware at the latest spec at
least
annually.
A properly engineered OS does not need to be restarted when patches
are applied.
How about little facts like areas with high gun control have higher crimes
committed with said weapon and areas with concealed carry laws have less
crime? I know silly little facts bug you leftists...get in the way of
getting rid of that pesky constitution.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM,
This is Tom saying 'no I can't, I'm just blowing it out my ass as usual'.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:57 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the reasons why
it is vastly inferior for me?
Where to mount your gun rack is marginally on topic.
You know where you can mount it.
:-)
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How about little facts...
Forget it, mike, this is not about facts. It is about what Tom
believes. Don't get me wrong, I actually respect Tom when he
is in Dr Piwowar mode.
When he is in Mr Hyde mode there is no reasoning with him.
Save the evidence, there is no indication that Mr Hyde can
Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the
reasons why it is vastly inferior for me? Thanks.
You birthers are all the same. M$ has published the specs. Do you
really think touching one is going to release some magical electro-
magnetic flux that will make me fall madly
Another view on HP scanners:
I have a dr's office that has scanned over 56,000 patient
records/files into .PDF's and their HP scanners, while not the cheap
ones, have worked very well and produced quality scans. It has saved
them considerable floor space for file cabinets.
Another law
Quoting t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com:
On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
You can expect it all you want. *All* OSes have patches that need to be
applied and hardware should have its firmware at the latest spec at least
annually.
A properly engineered OS does not need to be restarted
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:51 AM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote:
Today the radical right announced a move to allow gun carry in DC. This
would allow the driver to fire off a few warning rounds to discourage you
from blocking their right of way. No word on where gun racks would be
allowed in
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:18 AM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote:
I still feel pangs of sadness over OS 9. Apple's OS X is a poor imitation.
The new OS does not help me as much as the old one did. I finally stopped
using OS 9 only a few weeks ago.
I am still using it.
If you can't get
What is your opinion of Fujitsu scanners? They are not twain compliant and
thus do not produce .gif, .tiff, etc. but they do produce .pdf and also,
selectably, .jpg files. I find my Fujitsu to be particularly good at making
readable copy of faint documents. The sheet feeder often skews the
Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the
people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on
your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs.
That is what makes it an issue.
I don't think I've ever known anyone with such a strong
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for
the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The
competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its
early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple
appears to be its own worst
Tom you must lead a sheltered life.
If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back
window of your pick up truck along with a fishing rod or two.
Plus the required empty beer cans in the bed.
Stewart
At 11:51 PM 8/7/2009, you wrote:
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Constance
Good example. Imperial IT management always assumes that they know how
to do everybody's job better than the people who were hired to do the
job.
Tom is certified by the National Association of Petulance. He knows what
he's talking about.
I would love to see Tom's client list one day. I
That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got to
shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now, or
wait 'till later. I can't find the Start Button, so it *must* be OSX.
Tom also never moves off of v. 1.0 of his applications.
Those later versions are just
OK I will bite on this one.
Obviously you have never had to live within budgets.
Very often many of us are being asked to do more with LESS
Which means the $700 program is not an option as
we cannot afford it. We have to make the bucks stretch over a bigger area.
So that means we do with
If you can't get emotional about technology,what are you doing here?
Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are
other, more secure and padded places you should be.
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You mean the ubiquitous 9th floor variety?
Stewart
At 09:35 AM 8/8/2009, you wrote:
If you can't get emotional about technology,what are you doing here?
Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are
other, more secure and padded places you should be.
Jeff Wright wrote:
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for
the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The
competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its
early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple
appears to be
This discussion is pretty much pure speculation but:
The iPhone wasn't just first, it was about a generation and a half
ahead. Given Apple's history of innovation it's more likely that they
will innovate again than drop from popularity.
You'll notice that first was in quotes in my post. Very
Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the
people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on
your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs.
That is what makes it an issue.
Let's get one thing clear right now. I don't constantly talk
Jeff Wright wrote:
Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the
people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on
your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs.
That is what makes it an issue.
I don't think I've ever known anyone
Every right winger like yourself has a stronger reality distortion field.
Now go back to your worship of Dick and Sara and leave the rational
discussion to others.
You know Jordan, I want to be nice to you, I really do. But then, you shoot
your mouth off with such blinding, illiterate and
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day
I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app.
And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that came with
version 2 of the OS.
From:mike
More in reference to the iphone. Most of these references are in the middle
of reviews of phones such as the palm or the hero coming out in the US soon.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:10 AM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote:
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become,
On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote:
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day
I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app.
And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Palm, Sony, IBM, Apple, Xerox, etc. Being first isn't first is no
guarantee
of being the last man standing. All of these companies were
innovative, all
had a dominant lock on their market and all were soon surpassed by
competitors with better
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote:
That said, I'm happy with a regular iPod and the simplest of
phones. I can ooo and aaah over the latest iGadgets and Palms
without really wanting one.
I also don't have chunks of time, like a commute, where I could use
one.
Me too, but it is
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Jeff Wright wrote:
You'll notice that first was in quotes in my post. Very few
companies are literally first, but they were the first with a
successful and popular implementation of their product.
In quotes splitting hairs.
I've read that M$ is giving away loads of Zune HDs to industry
bloggers and writers. That will no doubt generate lots of sycophantic
stories for you to quote. Proving nothing.
Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior.
Often, all the time in fact. Right now. I'm lying right now.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote:
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
you point me to one of those blogs? On the other
It's nice to know you've already decided to not believe any reviews of the
product, makes it so you won't have to read any...not that you would, or
even touch the device once it is out. This makes life so easy on you I
imagine..no actual thought needed. Fits your MO.
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Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal?
I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with
DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi, and use one
On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:07 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I just cannot get to the point of excessively using the L word,
labially
caressing each letter as they pass through my lips. I am just saying
that I cringe a bit when I hear things like, Oh God, I LOOOVE my new
phone S much. Chances
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets,
there are
other, more secure and padded places you should be.
You get plenty emotional over technology. It just doesn't seem to
bring out as much love in you as it does the
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior.
Birther.
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On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Reid Katan wrote:
That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got
to shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now,
or wait 'till later. I can't find the Start Button, so it *must* be
OSX.
I suggest moving your lips as you
On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Fred Holmes wrote:
What is your opinion of Fujitsu scanners? They are not twain
compliant and thus do not produce .gif, .tiff, etc. but they do
produce .pdf and also, selectably, .jpg files. I find my Fujitsu
to be particularly good at making readable copy of
On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:50 AM, mike wrote:
How about little facts like areas with high gun control have higher
crimes
committed with said weapon and areas with concealed carry laws have
less
crime? I know silly little facts bug you leftists...get in the way of
getting rid of that pesky
Because if you were asked to use it you would have to admit you have no idea
how.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:15 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:50 AM, mike wrote:
Why can't I walk into the Capitol with a Leatherman toolkit attached to my
belt?
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior.
Birther.
Yes, apparently you are.
We ask birthers for their reasoning, and we get none, just statements of fact
with no supporting evidence. Precisely what you're doing right
TPiwowar wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote:
That said, I'm happy with a regular iPod and the simplest of phones.
I can ooo and aaah over the latest iGadgets and Palms without really
wanting one.
I also don't have chunks of time, like a commute, where I could use one.
Me too,
Yes, but Apple wasn't first in either the music player or smart phone
markets. Both markets were considered to be fairly stable and
buttoned down until Apple came along and churned them up again.
Remember this review of the first iPod: No wireless. Less space than
a nomad. Lame.? Of course it
Jeff Wright wrote:
Every right winger like yourself has a stronger reality distortion field.
Now go back to your worship of Dick and Sara and leave the rational
discussion to others.
You know Jordan, I want to be nice to you, I really do.
I an truly blessed!
But then, you shoot your
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back
window of your pick up truck along with a fishing rod or two.
But then where do I hang the Stars and Bars?
On Aug 8, 2009, at 4:08 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote:
The gun discussion is not repeat NOT something that we need
to bring up on this list. It is totally off topic unless we agree
that it has relevance, which it does not.
Deal. This OT topic is dead.
Any examples would be appreciated. Google didn't really help
me. I suppose I should try Bing, in light of recent stories that it
is slanting its searches to be anti-Apple, but I'd like to know
some examples of what it is that you are reading.
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:58 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L
You dummy that is attached to the big ol CB antenna mounted to the
bed of the PU.
Or as a decal on the back window.
Stewart
At 01:30 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back
window of
But consider the case Mike made for the Zune, a few posts back.
If it was cited in an advertisement, it would read something like:
Mike says: 'superior processor' . 'interface is at worst just fine'.
'what is there to complain about except lateness issue?' (Exact
quotes, and I tried to not
b_s-wilk wrote:
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Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal?
I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with
DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi,
Gimme a day or two..I'm not trying to avoid it, I've just looked at probably
50 youtube video reviews of iphone/pre/htc touch/htc diamond and a few
others along with reading about 50 blogs and review sites from the little
known to engadget about all the previously listed phones. All I meant to
OK that voyeuristic link was for? :-)
Stewart
At 01:48 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote:
b_s-wilk wrote:
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Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a
deal? I suppose you could do this with
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:53 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a
deal?
I'm not getting it. The N3555 is a very uninteresting phone. Is the
idea that I have to carry a laptop with me all the time to get the
benefits of the data connection. Can
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
OK that voyeuristic link was for? :-)
Stewart
That was a personal link in my original reply. I never intended to send
that link because, that is my fiance. Thankfully Yahoo will be giving
Geocities the ax.
Christopher
b_s-wilk wrote:
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Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal?
I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with
DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi,
This sounds too much like the children's argument,
I know you are, but what am I?. Rather than waiting for the
No you are from Tom, and a No YOU are back from
you, I beg you: Please, one of you make an actual point instead
of going around in circles like this, or let it drop.
Of course, that
I gathered that but was wondering why you sent us to that site?
:-)
Stewart
At 02:15 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote:
b_s-wilk wrote:
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Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a
deal? I
An you have the temerity to accuse me of having a reality distortion
field? Your beloved M$ is moving in a clockwise direction in the
Southern Hemisphere, and in a counterclockwise direction in the
Northern Hemisphere.
Yes, I do, and it's at full power right now.
Name one instance where MS
These views were from the hardcore of the
gadget world, not pc mag or such mainstream review sites.
Oops. I'm sure you meant M$ lackeys, not PC Mag.
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I beg you: Please, one of you make an actual point instead
of going around in circles like this, or let it drop.
I made a point. I asked for his reasons why Zune HD is vastly inferior. Three
times. A pretty reasonable request, I thought. He responds, Birther. WTF?
Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a
deal?
I'm not getting it. The N3555 is a very uninteresting phone. Is the
idea that I have to carry a laptop with me all the time to get the
benefits of the data connection. Can I tether it to a smart phone
that will make use of
The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating http://www.sarvalues.com/what-is-sar.html
That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're tethering
your phone or using a wired headset. Most [none?] of those phones aren't
being sold any more.
I'd love to have a
On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
The basic theme that I got from it was, At the very worst it
matches iPod Touch, which you like, so what's your real beef?
When did Apple introduce the iPod Touch that you are comparing the as
yet unreleased Zune HD to?
Reviewers are
It's easy...yer a birther..a pinhead, a neocon drone. You lack any skills
of perception, you listen to rush, to hannity and oreilly. You aren't worth
commenting on, the question itself lacks merit because YOU do.
Nevermind he can't back up a thing he says and that's why the name calling
starts.
On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Name one instance where MS was first with something. I'll wait.
Does it have to be legal?
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All those damn HDTV vendors! LIARS! They sell their so called HDTV's with
NO content and NO way to play HD unless you freakin BUY a blu ray player or
purchase sat/cable HD. What liars!
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Chris Dunford
Want to talk about lairs?
Went to my cable providers website this week.
Saw an ad advertising 10mps cable Internet service for 39.95.
I called up their chat feature to see about getting this service for
39.95 and was told I could not have it at that price it would cost me
54.95 a month.
Reviewers are already commenting that HD is false advertising. To
display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also
sold separately).
There's an app for that.
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So what was the consensus... a viable strategy or currently irrelevant?
db
b_s-wilk wrote:
The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating
http://www.sarvalues.com/what-is-sar.html
That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're
tethering your phone or using a
It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine
translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that
the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great,
which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right
that I should've let Mike speak
Reviewers are already commenting that HD is false advertising. To
display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also
sold separately). So typically M$ to launch a new product with a lie.
Sort of like an HD video player. I've heard you need a TV for those too.
Still no list of
I wasn't giving a review of the unit when I said that. My point was that
the worst that could be said about it is, that it's just fine. My point
being that only Tom in his hatred of MS could say the zune interface is an
abortion. Anyone with an open mind and common sense could see the interface
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
I've read that M$ is giving away loads of Zune HDs to industry bloggers and
writers. That will no doubt generate lots of sycophantic stories for you to
quote. Proving nothing.
Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com:
It's nice to know
It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine
translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that
the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great,
which matches the impressions I've gathered
Actually, most of the reviews I've read really
I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding
of this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm
involved with. I've started looking at some manuals from L-Soft and AOL,
and they are voluminous. The LISTSERV list owners guide looks like it
will tell
It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine
translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that
the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great,
which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right
that I should've let Mike
On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:19 PM, mike wrote:
My point being that only Tom in his hatred of MS could say the zune
interface is an
abortion.
Except that Tom did not say that. Otherwise you are fine.
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On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Jordan wrote:
I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an
understanding of this but: I'm considering starting List for a
local food group I'm involved with. I've started looking at some
manuals from L-Soft and AOL, and they are voluminous. The
On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:52 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
It's that many 3G GSM phones can be used for a data plan that
costs much less than most other plans per month. I'm not touting
that phone or the provider. Any provider with that rate will be fine.
The iPhone is GSM, isn't it?
Has anybody tried
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
I gathered that but was wondering why you sent us to that site?
:-)
Stewart
Because, The cell phone companies are always pitching phones with
supposedly great features. Yet, They never mention the SAR(Specific
Absorption Rate) of the phone. If it is rated
An interesting essay on what apple was, is and becoming. One theme being
that apple has become even more the anti competitive villain then MS ever
was. His example being that at it's worst, you could always install another
browser on windows, but with the iphone, apple forbids the use of any
b_s-wilk wrote:
The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating
http://www.sarvalues.com/what-is-sar.html
That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're
tethering your phone or using a wired headset. Most [none?] of those
phones aren't being sold any more.
I'd
yahoo
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of
this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved
with. I've started looking at some manuals from L-Soft and AOL, and
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Obviously you have never had to live within budgets.
Very often many of us are being asked to do more with LESS
There are two ways to handle budget problems.
One is to cut back, fire highest-paid staff, run with the cheapest
There are two ways to handle budget problems.
Therein lies your problem: a total and complete lack of vision.
The real world isn't binary.
I'll leave it to our sad sack WFBs to struggle with doing less with
less.
We do just fine, since we don't have to pay the Apple tax.
OK I know I asked for you to respond but you are being a plain old
mass about it.
Tom many non-profits have very slim line budgets a few people on
their staff and many many volunteer workers.
We don't get the cheapest but we cannot afford the most expensive.
So unless you are paying the
Anyone have recommendations for a billable hours tracking software
that is cross platform, can export to spreadsheet and can also be used
with various PDA / Smartphone platforms?
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Agreed yahoogroups.
Stewart
At 06:40 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote:
yahoo
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of
this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved
with.
On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Agreed yahoogroups.
Look at both. They offer different services. Let you needs determine
your choice.
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On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:33 PM, mike wrote:
That is a link to his listerv, you would have to subscribe to read
the post,
you could unsub after if you like however his posts are few and far
so it's
not a big deal. I'd post the article here but he requests that any
repost
be given permission
On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Tom many non-profits have very slim line budgets a few people on
their staff and many many volunteer workers.
Yes, bad management tends to be a problem. I recently watched a once
prosperous church go through a change in management.
Quoting TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Reid Katan wrote:
That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got
to shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now,
I suggest moving your lips as you read or maybe reading aloud. I wrote
That's
Tom 80% of the population go to megachurches.
However 80% of our churches are smaller single staff churches.
The only paid staff is me and I am there whenever they want me and do
a lot of work at home also.
Churches cannot be run like businesses. They are churches whole
different ball
Yes, bad management tends to be a problem.
Ya think?
Is this your flow chart?
Bad management? Yes
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Yes
Non-profits can have funding issues for all sorts of reasons aside from
management. Changes in city or state administrations can change funding
In many cases when a supporter dies the non-profit gets zilch.
Families have a tendency to look out for families.
I have had a few that before they got sick took the unprecedented
step of setting up trusts/endowments to look after non-profit or the
aims of the non-profit.
It is not common
On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Churches cannot be run like businesses. They are churches whole
different ball game.
By the way the management of any church is the parishioners!
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
But those of us who believe in the free market also
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