Quoting db db...@att.net:
Can anyone tell me what probably occurred and what are the best
procedures for securing iChat/ AIM that won't also block the LogMeIn
remote login that I use to give him lessons?
I don't have an actual answer for you (sorry), but this might be worth
a trip to an
On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Jordan wrote:
My 2 year old intel iMac won't boot. I got a grey kernel crash
screen yesterday, but it restarted and ran fine in the evening so I
didn't take any time to investigate. This evening it started
strangely, displayed properly, but would not run Eye TV.
On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:23 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
Their argument sounds oddly plaintive: Apple spent a lot of time and
effort developing their phone interface, so they don't like that
Google
replac[es] the iPhone's core mobile telephone functionality and Apple
user interface with its own user
On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:44 PM, db wrote:
Currently he has no use whatsoever for iChat (he's just learning to
mouse about, read emails etc... he hasn't even sent an email
yet...) and I'd like to make sure his computer and iChat are secure
and impervious to more of the same.
On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Reid Katan wrote:
How else would he have iChat and AIM accounts going?
iChat uses the AIM network. So no surprise there.
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On Aug 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, mike wrote:
Everything is the fault of those damn neomircrosofticons eh? How
you manage
to bring your made up boogey men into everything is amazing.
On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
You first feign outrage over Google Voice and then almost
Quoting TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com:
On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Reid Katan wrote:
How else would he have iChat and AIM accounts going?
iChat uses the AIM network. So no surprise there.
What I was wondering is, basically, do Macs come with iChat/AIM
accounts set up? That seems like something
TPiwowar wrote:
On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Jordan wrote:
My 2 year old intel iMac won't boot. I got a grey kernel crash screen
yesterday, but it restarted and ran fine in the evening so I didn't
take any time to investigate. This evening it started strangely,
displayed properly, but would
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Date: August 23, 2009 8:07:35 AM EDT
To: Alvin Auerbach alvin.auerb...@verizon.net
Subject: Rejected posting to COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
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Fortunately there were many other posts that were
thoughtful about this very interesting situation.
TomLogik(t)
Not thoughtful = Objective reality.
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I wish you would.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:10 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Arguing with you guys is like trying to have a conversation with a coffee
table. Fortunately there were many other posts that were thoughtful about
this very interesting situation. Hang it up.
It's a new computer and the most he might have done was accidentally
clicked on the iChat icon on the Dock (he says he didn't..) ... which
could have launched the program. Somehow it got launched. (I think
maybe iChat gets automatically launched if you access the camera or
microphone).
So if you are using Google voice across the data plan as you describe does that
essentially free you from the expensive daytime minutes restriction?
Can you get a cell phone with a data plan AND WITHOUT a talk plan?
Dan
Yes, it's called T-Mobile's SideKick--also Blackberry, other PDAs,
Time for a REAL reality check. Apple has rejected many apps that it
later accepted. They're not lying. They're being cautious. Apple
developers prefer to delay a questionable app until it will work nicely
with other apps and the OS. Google Voice does neither. They'll work it
out like they've
So you know google is lying...how do you know that?
Sent from my iPod
On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:06 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
Time for a REAL reality check. Apple has rejected many apps that it
later accepted. They're not lying. They're being cautious. Apple
developers prefer to
On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Mike wrote:
So you know google is lying...how do you know that?
The issue is not Google or Apple lying. It is you trying to insert
misinformation into the account of what transpired.
GV was not rejected by Apple. It was not approved. The two are not
the same.
db wrote:
It's a new computer and the most he might have done was accidentally
clicked on the iChat icon on the Dock (he says he didn't..) ... which
could have launched the program. Somehow it got launched. (I think
maybe iChat gets automatically launched if you access the camera or
On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Reid Katan wrote:
What I was wondering is, basically, do Macs come with iChat/AIM
accounts set up? That seems like something he would have to enable.
I've had my iBook for about a year so far (bought refurbed with OSX.
4 from Geeks.com) and no one has tried to
On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Jordan wrote:
I think I had tried that at one point last night, but in any case,
it didn't start it just now when I did it.
That suggests that it is probably not a hard drive problem.
I don't know if I dreamed it up or read it somewhere but I just
held down
db or anyone else, how did the logmein work for you, and are there any
other programs like that, that work for the Mac?
Thanks
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On Aug 23, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Alvin Auerbach wrote:
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because it
exceeds the maximum message size of 225 lines. The size of your
message was 350
lines.
Congratulations on being the first to be so rejected. This limit has
LogMeIn is easy as cake... a great tool. Web based it takes all the
tech out of setting up VNC / remote desktop login etc.
The Free version does most of all you want. No SFTP or printing to the
controlling computer that you get with Pro.
A PC controlling a Mac won't have the command key
Congratulations on being the first to be so rejected.
Clearly I should speak longer.
I thought I was too wordy by far, now that you say there's
a limit I can aspire to exceeding it.
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I have been using LogMeIn forever- love it so much better than the alternatives.
But, there is only one choice if you have the PalmPre and want to run/check out
a Desktop (Mac or PC).
Eschew Obfuscation
This is a reply from:
Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
I use the free version of Logmein a lot on my PCs. It's main claim to fame
is it's ability to work on any system with a working browser; no fancy
configurations required.
db or anyone else, how did the logmein work for you, and are there any
other programs like that, that work for the Mac?
LogMeIn is easy as cake... a great tool. Web based it takes all the
tech out of setting up VNC / remote desktop login etc.
The Free version does most of all you want. No SFTP or printing to the
controlling computer that you get with Pro.
I use LogMeIn Free for supporting all of our
Does that mean that that's only way the login.oscar.aol.com account that
I found on his machine could have gotten installed in iChat preferences
next to the Bonjour acct?
I tend to agree with your experience but in this case my uncle can't
type, has trouble clicking on the right button
On Aug 23, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Jordan wrote:
db or anyone else, how did the logmein work for you, and are there
any other programs like that, that work for the Mac?
Screen sharing is part of OS X.5 (Leopard). Works over the local
network or with a VPN or MobileMe.
So again, you are saying the FCC is involved for zero reason?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:14 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Mike wrote:
So you know google is lying...how do you know that?
The issue is not Google or Apple lying. It is you trying to insert
Windows comes with Remote Assistance. But it requires someone at the other
end to answer. And port forwarding I think.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:10 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 23, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Jordan wrote:
db or anyone else, how did the logmein work for you, and are there
At 1:07 PM -0700 8/23/09, db wrote:
[snip]
Can I chase down oscar.aol.com on my own by other means to see if it
is someone he knows?
The oscar is not a person's name; it is the name of the normal,
everyday AIM server. It was set up automatically.
--
Roger
Lovettsville, VA
Time for a REAL reality check. Apple has rejected many apps that it
later accepted. They're not lying. They're being cautious. Apple
developers prefer to delay a questionable app until it will work nicely
with other apps and the OS. Google Voice does neither. They'll work it
out like they've
And yet still things leak.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:18 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
I still have a cousin who works for Apple as an engineer. They're as
secretive about their projects as the NSA.
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So far I have resisted getting a cell phone for myself. Wife
daughters insist on having one, so that I am paying about $150/month for
same. Don't want to add on to my plan since it requires another 2-year
contract, plus wifey will be constantly calling me for help, for
chitchat, and for no
They're as secretive about their projects as the NSA.
How do you know?
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db wrote:
LogMeIn is easy as cake... a great tool. Web based it takes all the
tech out of setting up VNC / remote desktop login etc.
The Free version does most of all you want. No SFTP or printing to
the controlling computer that you get with Pro.
A PC controlling a Mac won't have the
Since you asked I'll give you my take on it. Get the cheapest
possible cell phone with a pay as you go plan. Even then you
won't use it. It will be another inconveniece in your life.
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OK, thanks for the confirmation! I've been kind of busy since this
morning and was afraid to shut it down or let it go to sleep.
TPiwowar wrote:
On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Jordan wrote:
I think I had tried that at one point last night, but in any case, it
didn't start it just now when I
So far I have resisted getting a cell phone for myself. Wife daughters
insist on having one, so that I am paying about $150/month for same. Don't
want to add on to my plan since it requires another 2-year contract, plus
wifey will be constantly calling me for help, for chitchat, and for
TPiwowar
On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Mike wrote:
So you know google is lying...how do you know that?
The issue is not Google or Apple lying. It is you trying
to insert misinformation into the account of what transpired.
GV was not rejected by Apple. It was not approved. The
two are not
I have at least as much experience with Apple products as your so-called
tech site. There are NO real inside connections with Apple, except where
Apple allows. As soon as there are leaks, the leaker[s] is/are fired.
Industrial espionage is serious business. I still have a cousin who
works for
The MFB set seems to completely ignore this would have never made any news
or into the FCC's radar pattern if Apple had actually not rejected the app.
There is no story, no reason to inquire.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote:
I have at least as much
At 05:57 PM 8/23/2009 -0400, you wrote:
So far I have resisted getting a cell phone for myself. Wife
daughters insist on having one, so that I am paying about $150/month
for same. Don't want to add on to my plan since it requires another
2-year contract, plus wifey will be constantly
And yet still things leak.
The leakers have been fired. One of the things that Apple does is to
spread a lot of false rumors. When one of those rumors gets out, they
know exactly who is responsible and fire them. There's a huge difference
between leaks and rumors. The leak about the large
One of the things that Apple does is to spread a lot of false rumors.
Deliberately? I'd question the ethics of a company that did this.
I will say rhat any company can have proprietary information.
But that isn't the issue. I'll TELL you what I'm doing and planning,
I have to. Any
Don't study ... just try it out.
It will take 5 mins to set up and a few more to get used to it. Just
set up an account at LogMeIn and download the software from there and
install it on the two machines and then log on.
db
Jordan wrote:
db wrote:
LogMeIn is easy as cake... a great tool.
Eric S. Sande escribió:
They're as secretive about their projects as the NSA.
How do you know?
Friends at both NSA and Apple.
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One of the things that Apple does is to spread a lot of false rumors.
Deliberately? I'd question the ethics of a company that did this.
Internally only. Plenty of other companies do the same including ones
where I've worked. When a company has a unique product or a special
formula,
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