[CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It all depends. http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html There is a lot of confusion about the fact that Snow Leopard starts by default with a 32-bit kernel even though nearly everything else is 64-bit

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not too far I already have pre-orders in for a few copies. Stewart At 09:58 AM 8/25/2009, you wrote: This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It all depends. http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html There is a lot of confusion about the fact

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
Was someone asking? On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 7:58 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It all depends. http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html There is a lot of confusion about the fact that Snow Leopard

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Tony B
I was wondering why some authors have already claimed the new Mac OS was going to have better compatibility with old 32 bit apps than Win7. Now I see - basically because the OS is still 32 bit itself. I'm not at all sure what the comment about Win7 being way in the future means. Many people -

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Tony B wrote: Now I see - basically because the OS is still 32 bit itself. You don't see all that well (why am I not surprised?). OS X.6 is set to run a 32-bit kernel as the default. It can be set to run a 64-bit kernel or you can just press the 6 and 4 keys

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
You are kicking me off the list for asking? Nice. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:27 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:34 AM, mike wrote: Was someone asking? Then butt out. You are not invited to this conversation.

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:34 AM, mike wrote: Was someone asking? Then butt out. You are not invited to this conversation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Not too far I already have pre-orders in for a few copies. Yes I saw, M$ wanted to be paid 3 months ahead on the promise of delivering an operating system and the faithful got their credit cards out.

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, mike wrote: You are kicking me off the list for asking? Nice. Cue the violins. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] Asking for prepaid cell phone recommendation

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:00 PM, rleesimon wrote: I just had a 4 min conversation with their customer service and with that ...as I rarely if ever text, I got that off halving my internet monthly charge, dropped to 550min/mo reducing another chunk, was able to retain my more that 5000 minutes of

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
Gimme the little one. Plaintive and sorrowful. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, mike wrote: You are kicking me off the list for asking? Nice. Cue the violins.

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Tony B
Then why the F didn't you just say that without expecting us to read that long article? So now you're saying the only difference is the new Mac OS will combine both 64 and 32 bit versions in the same package, and the installer must choose 64 bit manually. Win7 will come in two different binaries,

[CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
http://www.parallels.com/news/id,19860 Parallels Desktop Switch to Mac Edition Offers Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users Switching from PC to Mac is on the rise: analyst reports on operating system market share show that Mac OS X market growth comes at the expense of Windows’ market share.

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Tony B wrote: So now you're saying the only difference is the new Mac OS will combine both 64 and 32 bit versions in the same package, and the installer must choose 64 bit manually. Win7 will come in two different binaries, and the installer must use the correct one.

Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-25 Thread mike
If I click on the link, do you get a kickback? I'll click twice to help the economy if so... On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://www.parallels.com/news/id,19860 Parallels Desktop Switch to Mac Edition Offers Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users Switching from

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Jordan
This is interesting stuff. Some if the things I read in the late 90s and early 2000s seemed to suggest that the Linux and BSD type platforms were antiquated. Probably FUD. But Apple is still moving forward and further refining and updating the OS X core. TPiwowar wrote: This explains a lot.

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Tony B
I can't imagine the need to switch between them will occur often. Presumably there will be a few people that upgrade their systems in mid-install, but not many I would imagine. Fewer still will be those that will do it without _expecting_ to reinstall the OS. So you're saying if I install OSX 32

Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-25 Thread Tony B
Don't bother; it's just an ad for software. Oddly, it's software that allows someone to run their PC on a Mac, which simply means a lot of those figures Tom's quoting are probably inaccurate. I mean, if someone buys a Mac and runs their PC on it, are they a Windows user or a Mac user? On Tue,

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
MS has not because no one would notice that they are running 64bit or 32bit. The only ones choosing 64 are those who know what it is, the ones who don't know..well they wouldn't use it anyhow and if they did, they wouldn't even know it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com

Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-25 Thread mike
Measuring by the thing that matters..money, they are a mac user. Apple makes money on the hardware, not the software so they really give a rats tail what os you use as long as you buy their hardware. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Don't bother; it's just an ad

Re: [CGUYS] How to access Documents Settings folder in XP

2009-08-25 Thread Ed Y
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[CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Rich Schinnell
An interesting article in Info World. http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap-windows-7-knockoff-798 Quoted from the first para.. Where's the beef? That's the idiom that jumps to mind as I work my way through Galen Gruman's

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
From what I understand this really is an under the hood update. It's not meant to be feature ridden for the end user. I've also read that this update will introduce technologies that will only be taken advantage of over time as applications are written specifically for the update. This is also

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Rich Schinnell wrote: http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap- windows-7-knockoff-798 Oh pleeese! A half-baked WFB spouting about the wonderfulness of Vista plus claims that X.6 is somehow a copy of M$'s yet to be released OS. Tell us about

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:42 PM, mike wrote: MS has not because no that they are running 64bit or 32bit. Got it. Official M$ line is that 64-bit is useless, something that no one would notice. You think we are stupid?

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Richard P.
I would think that you'll be dead meat after this post :)) Richard P. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Rich Schinnellrichnrockvi...@gmail.com wrote: An interesting article in Info World. http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap-windows-7-knockoff-798 Maybe I will get

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Tony B wrote: So you're saying if I install OSX 32 bit today, then change my mobo and CPU, I can simply switch to 64 bit next year? Just throw a switch and no OS reinstall will be required? Nice, if true. The OS loads either the 32 or 64-bit kernel at startup.

Re: [CGUYS] Google's Sorry

2009-08-25 Thread Ellen Harris
I got this the other day while I was on Boingo in an airport. It stopped after a few minutes. Dunno --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote: From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] Google's Sorry To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, August

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Jeff Wright
Nope they don't get paid until it is shipped! Did not order through MS, ordered through merchants who cannot charge until it is shipped., Who's on first? is very important to Tom. Humor him and maybe he'll shut up about it. Good show old boy! Maybe next time is when we catch the weasel in

[CGUYS] Sudden Mac OS X V4 Inefficiency

2009-08-25 Thread Arnold Kee
Hello all: Are there gremlins out to get me? I swear that the day I said to myself that one of the reasons why I continued to favor my MAC over the PC laptops I get with each job is how much more efficient it is when using the internet..all of a sudden, it now acts really slowly and fails

Re: [CGUYS] Sudden Mac OS X V4 Inefficiency

2009-08-25 Thread Ellen Harris
Change your DNS servers on the Mac to 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 and see if it makes a difference. --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Arnold Kee a...@expandingthecircle.org wrote: From: Arnold Kee a...@expandingthecircle.org Subject: [CGUYS] Sudden Mac OS X V4 Inefficiency To:

Re: [CGUYS] Asking for prepaid cell phone recommendation

2009-08-25 Thread b_s-wilk
I live in No. Va. also and use T-Mobile pre-paid for uses like you describe. Advantages: - low cost: first year I paid $100 for 1000 min. Used 500 in first year, second year is $50 for another year. Hard to beat $4 per month. Disadvantages: T-Mobile coverage is spotty. OK here. Non-existent

Re: [CGUYS] Asking for prepaid cell phone recommendation

2009-08-25 Thread b_s-wilk
Actually, that's $8.33/mo the first year. Hard to say how long you could keep renewing minutes after that as the networks change and to get the better coverage you may need a new phone. Still, $4.15/mo for 10 minutes of phone calls is pretty bad. Not so long ago that used to cost about $0.25