Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
No, not 'we', I was just talking to you. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:44 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:42 PM, mike wrote: MS has not because no that they are running 64bit or 32bit. Got it. Official M$ line is that 64-bit is useless, something that no one would notice. You think we are stupid? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
The OS loads either the 32 or 64-bit kernel at startup. Default is 32. At some point the default will be 64. This doesn't paint customers into a corner. Yes very nice -- typical Apple engineering. No matter how you slice and dice it, the fact remains that Vista and Win7 are fully 64-bit out of the box, including the kernel. I don't have any problem with Macs, but I do love how you manage to claim that defaulting to the 32-bit version of a critical component is somehow a big advantage over 64-bit Windows, and a sign of superior engineering. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Not sure why you're flailing on this. Mac OS 10.6, Snow Leopard, can be set to load 64-bit, every time, if desired, or left to the default, to load the 32-bit kernel. Windows users must install one or the other. This is not a huge difference. Why split hairs? I like Apple's approach; if I need to use 32-bit kernel to work with older software, I can, and can switch when 32-bit is no longer needed. M$ does provide 32-bit or 64-bit. This is at installation, but I don't slam them for that. Why the nit-picking? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- No matter how you slice and dice it, the fact remains that Vista and Win7 are fully 64-bit out of the box, including the kernel. I don't have any problem with Macs, but I do love how you manage to claim that defaulting to the 32-bit version of a critical component is somehow a big advantage over 64-bit Windows, and a sign of superior engineering. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Mark, where exactly did I slam $now Leopard? I don't have any problem with either approach. I just think it's amusing that TP manages to find that defaulting to a 32-bit kernel in a 64-bit OS is superior engineering. If MS did that, he'd be dripping with contempt and sarcasm, and saying Why am I not surprised?, and we all know it. -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:31 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit Not sure why you're flailing on this. Mac OS 10.6, Snow Leopard, can be set to load 64-bit, every time, if desired, or left to the default, to load the 32-bit kernel. Windows users must install one or the other. This is not a huge difference. Why split hairs? I like Apple's approach; if I need to use 32-bit kernel to work with older software, I can, and can switch when 32-bit is no longer needed. M$ does provide 32-bit or 64-bit. This is at installation, but I don't slam them for that. Why the nit-picking? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- No matter how you slice and dice it, the fact remains that Vista and Win7 are fully 64-bit out of the box, including the kernel. I don't have any problem with Macs, but I do love how you manage to claim that defaulting to the 32-bit version of a critical component is somehow a big advantage over 64-bit Windows, and a sign of superior engineering. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Okay, Chris, I guess I am getting miffed at the cross-jabs on this one. Seems to be lame attempts at petty one-ups. I think his small point was OS X does not need to be re-installed to go between 32- and 64-bit. A small thing, but a better design. M$ often charges for these differences. I'm not really looking for a response, but do if this offends; it isn't meant to. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Mark, where exactly did I slam $now Leopard? I don't have any problem with either approach. I just think it's amusing that TP manages to find that defaulting to a 32-bit kernel in a 64-bit OS is superior engineering. If MS did that, he'd be dripping with contempt and sarcasm, and saying Why am I not surprised?, and we all know it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
As I said before 99% of windows or mac users don't know and/or don't care about 32 vs 64 bit. I'd wager most mac users if confronted with the choice of the two won't know which to choose or why to choose which one. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Not sure why you're flailing on this. Mac OS 10.6, Snow Leopard, can be set to load 64-bit, every time, if desired, or left to the default, to load the 32-bit kernel. Windows users must install one or the other. This is not a huge difference. Why split hairs? I like Apple's approach; if I need to use 32-bit kernel to work with older software, I can, and can switch when 32-bit is no longer needed. M$ does provide 32-bit or 64-bit. This is at installation, but I don't slam them for that. Why the nit-picking? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- No matter how you slice and dice it, the fact remains that Vista and Win7 are fully 64-bit out of the box, including the kernel. I don't have any problem with Macs, but I do love how you manage to claim that defaulting to the 32-bit version of a critical component is somehow a big advantage over 64-bit Windows, and a sign of superior engineering. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Ah, but most of us on this list know the issues (or know who to ask). This is/was a discussion of a design issue, not the merits of 32-bit vs. 64-bit. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- As I said before 99% of windows or mac users don't know and/or don't care about 32 vs 64 bit. I'd wager most mac users if confronted with the choice of the two won't know which to choose or why to choose which one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users
I mean, if someone buys a Mac and runs their PC on it, are they a Windows user or a Mac user? YES! We can do both. We are 'ambidextrous'. We have Macs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Thunderbird Word Wrap Broken
I've just noticed that when I forward some messages in Thunderbird (version 2.0.0.23 ), that the word-wrap is broken and there's no way to get it rewrap. Anyone else notice this and is there a way to get it to word-wrap all the time. The problem emails are ones that are automatically forwarded to my mailbox. When they arrive, they are fine (wrapped), but when I go to forward them, the text shows up as one long line. All other emails forward OK. Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users
I think the actual term is BI Or acey ducey. :-) Stewart At 11:18 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote: I mean, if someone buys a Mac and runs their PC on it, are they a Windows user or a Mac user? YES! We can do both. We are 'ambidextrous'. We have Macs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
But the mac design issue leads into a normal user having to choose 32 or 64 unless I read wrong? On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Ah, but most of us on this list know the issues (or know who to ask). This is/was a discussion of a design issue, not the merits of 32-bit vs. 64-bit. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- As I said before 99% of windows or mac users don't know and/or don't care about 32 vs 64 bit. I'd wager most mac users if confronted with the choice of the two won't know which to choose or why to choose which one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Mike, you already asserted that the average user would not know which to pick or how to tell which was running, so how is this now an issue for normal users? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- But the mac design issue leads into a normal user having to choose 32 or 64 unless I read wrong? On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Ah, but most of us on this list know the issues (or know who to ask). This is/was a discussion of a design issue, not the merits of 32-bit vs. 64-bit. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- As I said before 99% of windows or mac users don't know and/or don't care about 32 vs 64 bit. I'd wager most mac users if confronted with the choice of the two won't know which to choose or why to choose which one. ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
I'm not flailing here. I just don't understand and I'm not afraid to ask apparently ignorant questions. Keep in mind that I'm an experienced computer user, not a tech., so I don't quite understand the whole kernel level aspects of the discussed feature set. I have a Vista 64 machine that runs Photoshop CS4 at 64 bit. It runs Photoshop 7 at 32 bit. It even runs older apps at 16 bit, I think. So even though the OS is 64 bit, and I realize that means I can run 64 bit apps., it doesn't limit my running whatever I want, right? And I don't have to reboot to a 32 bit environment to do it. Is the discussion revolving around a supposed engineering advantage of being able to boot to a 32 bit environment to run older apps.? Wouldn't it be better to boot at 64 bit and have the OS use 32 bit 'natively' when it needs to without having to restart? This appears to be what Vista 64 is doing. Feel free to point out my ignorance. I'm just trying to understand. And it may help to clarify the discussion for all. Mark Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: Ah, but most of us on this list know the issues (or know who to ask). This is/was a discussion of a design issue, not the merits of 32-bit vs. 64-bit. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users
Thanks to both Betty and Mark for cool and dispassionate logic. --- On Wed, 8/26/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 12:18 PM I mean, if someone buys a Mac and runs their PC on it, are they a Windows user or a Mac user? YES! We can do both. We are 'ambidextrous'. We have Macs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
The most common issue is with drivers and other system functions. Most updating or replacing an operating system (not a server) just need to find out if their applications run okay in the new OS. For most, this is a handful of commercial applications, so is a short process. Those with specialized or custom code may suffer. A large advantage of 64-bit is getting past the 4B address limit. Thank you, Mark Snyder - not drowning, waving -Original Message- I'm not flailing here. I just don't understand and I'm not afraid to ask apparently ignorant questions. Keep in mind that I'm an experienced computer user, not a tech., so I don't quite understand the whole kernel level aspects of the discussed feature set. I have a Vista 64 machine that runs Photoshop CS4 at 64 bit. It runs Photoshop 7 at 32 bit. It even runs older apps at 16 bit, I think. So even though the OS is 64 bit, and I realize that means I can run 64 bit apps., it doesn't limit my running whatever I want, right? And I don't have to reboot to a 32 bit environment to do it. Is the discussion revolving around a supposed engineering advantage of being able to boot to a 32 bit environment to run older apps.? Wouldn't it be better to boot at 64 bit and have the OS use 32 bit 'natively' when it needs to without having to restart? This appears to be what Vista 64 is doing. Feel free to point out my ignorance. I'm just trying to understand. And it may help to clarify the discussion for all. Mark * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thunderbird Word Wrap Broken
Thunderbird has a Options/ Composition word wrap setting for Plain text (72 characters is what I put there) but for HTML I don't see any options except the manual Edit/ rewrap command for a particular email... db b_s-wilk wrote: I've just noticed that when I forward some messages in Thunderbird (version 2.0.0.23 ), that the word-wrap is broken and there's no way to get it rewrap. Anyone else notice this and is there a way to get it to word-wrap all the time. The problem emails are ones that are automatically forwarded to my mailbox. When they arrive, they are fine (wrapped), but when I go to forward them, the text shows up as one long line. All other emails forward OK. You can select/highlight that text, then choose 'Rewrap' in the Edit menu. That will give hard line breaks as defined in your prefs by # of characters per line. I think if you also choose Plain Text instead of MIME or formatted, it will wrap to your defaults. I have a similar problem. I'd like the text in emails to automatically wrap to the width of the window, changing when I make the email window larger or smaller. I think this was the default several generations ago, or in Mozilla suite. Guess I'll have to create my own pref in the Thunderbird config mgr. As a test, I changed this pref, as in SeaMonkey mail defaults: mail.compose.wrap_to_window_widthuser setboolean true Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2
Mine seems to work fine! In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:41:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, el...@goodshiptabasco.com writes: Is anyone else finding this latest update of Firefox to be more similar to a demolition derby than a browser. It's crashing every time it's opened on my machines. Vista Home and XP machines. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
The 4gb memory limit is just a Windows licensing issue though. Unless Mac OS also has such licensing issues, this shouldn't be as big an advantage. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: A large advantage of 64-bit is getting past the 4B address limit. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2
Been fine for me on several machines. Try deleting everything? Cache, cookies, profiles? On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM, johnmen...@aol.com wrote: Mine seems to work fine! In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:41:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, el...@goodshiptabasco.com writes: Is anyone else finding this latest update of Firefox to be more similar to a demolition derby than a browser. It's crashing every time it's opened on my machines. Vista Home and XP machines. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thunderbird Word Wrap Broken
That's yet another reason to send email as plain text and avoid HTML email like the plague. Thunderbird has a Options/ Composition word wrap setting for Plain text (72 characters is what I put there) but for HTML I don't see any options except the manual Edit/ rewrap command for a particular email... db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Explain what you mean by a licensing issue? Stewart At 04:18 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: The 4gb memory limit is just a Windows licensing issue though. Unless Mac OS also has such licensing issues, this shouldn't be as big an advantage. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
The 32 bit Windows versions have always limited people to addressing 4gb of memory. Not so with e.g. 32 bit Windows Server 2008, which I think comes with as much as like 80gb ram. In fact, I asked about this on the list a while back. How can I ensure that PAE is turned on so I know my WinXP is using all 6gb of my ram. It was only much later I discovered the consumer versions of Windows don't include PAE, and so are limited to 4gb ram. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Explain what you mean by a licensing issue? Stewart At 04:18 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: The 4gb memory limit is just a Windows licensing issue though. Unless Mac OS also has such licensing issues, this shouldn't be as big an advantage. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2
I had a similar issue after I upgraded where I got an error message stating that Firefox was already open, and I needed to close before I could open a new browser. Booted in safe mode and still had the issue. I ended having to uninstall (delete files option), delete the registry keys under HKLM/software/mozilla/firefox. I deleted every key that mentioned firefox. Restarted pc, reinstalled firefox, updated then imported my bookmarks. ( Forgot to mention I copied my profile to a USB stick before the uninstall) Everything is fine now, but when it was not responding correctly at the beginning I started having doubts about my beloved Firefox. This may or may not help but I went through this process just last night. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Tony B wrote: The 4gb memory limit is just a Windows licensing issue though. Unless Mac OS also has such licensing issues, this shouldn't be as big an advantage. Right. The 32-bits specified is the size of a virtual memory address. Physical memory can actually be larger, though a particular process (program) would still be limited to the 4GB address space. Linux (and some server versions of Windows, not sure about OS X) can use PAE addressing to use more than 4GB, even in 32-bit mode. I just read an article on this yesterday: http://www.geoffchappell.com/viewer.htm?doc=notes/windows/license/memory.htm On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: A large advantage of 64-bit is getting past the 4B address limit. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sudden Mac OS X V4 Inefficiency
On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Arnold Kee wrote: Are there gremlins out to get me? Yes! all of a sudden, it now acts really slowly and fails to connect with my wireless network consistently Have you cleared the browser's cache files? A corrupt cache happens suddenly and will slow things down considerably. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Tony B wrote: In fact, I asked about this on the list a while back. How can I ensure that PAE is turned on so I know my WinXP is using all 6gb of my ram. It was only much later I discovered the consumer versions of Windows don't include PAE, and so are limited to 4gb ram. Are you saying memory access is crippled unless one buys a higher- priced version? Why am I not surprised? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
On Aug 26, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: And Windows has been 64-bit for several years now. The problem has been in driver support and app compatibility, no surprise there. Precisely. Apple knows that some drivers won't work right with the 64 kernel, but it doesn't know if you have such drivers. It suspects that you probably do so the default is 32 bit. You can try 64 by starting up with the 6 and 4 keys depressed and from then on it will run with the 64 kernel. If you run into trouble you restart with 3 and 2 depressed and that puts you back to a 32 kernel. A very elegant solution to a problem that gave Vista users conniptions. What I don't understand is why WFBs have such a hard time understanding something so simple. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
On Aug 26, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Mark A. Metz wrote: I have a Vista 64 machine that runs Photoshop CS4 at 64 bit. It runs Photoshop 7 at 32 bit. It even runs older apps at 16 bit, I think. So even though the OS is 64 bit, and I realize that means I can run 64 bit apps., it doesn't limit my running whatever I want, right? And I don't have to reboot to a 32 bit environment to do it. That's running in application space. A very different environment than the kernel. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2
I had a similar issue after I upgraded where I got an error message stating that Firefox was already open, and I needed to close before I could open a new browser. Booted in safe mode and still had the issue. I ended having to uninstall (delete files option), delete the registry keys under HKLM/software/mozilla/firefox. I deleted every key that mentioned firefox. Restarted pc, reinstalled firefox, updated then imported my bookmarks. ( Forgot to mention I copied my profile to a USB stick before the uninstall) Everything is fine now, but when it was not responding correctly at the beginning I started having doubts about my beloved Firefox. I started using Firefox 3.5.2 on my Mac. So far it's OK. It has a redundant tab with a plus sign on it that I'd like to get rid of, but can't find a pref or config for that yet. I also had to reset some of the Applications' actions. Otherwise, so far, so good. I downloaded the Mozilla SeaMonkey beta last week and it insisted that another version was running [it wasn't]. Where does this come from? I decided to clean up my hard drive and wait for the SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1.x or beta 2, rather than begin testing an app that refuses to load, http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0b1. On the brighter side, this version didn't warn that it might erase my hard drive or set my computer on fire. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
On Aug 26, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: Not sure why you're flailing on this. Mac OS 10.6, Snow Leopard, can be set to load 64-bit, every time, if desired, or left to the default, to load the 32-bit kernel. Windows users must install one or the other. This is not a huge difference. Why split hairs? Sure is a huge difference. Reinstalling Windows is not quick and will probably mess up many installed apps. Not something that is done lightly. Definitely not something you would want to switch back and forth. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Sure is a huge difference. Reinstalling Windows is not quick and will probably mess up many installed apps. Not something that is done lightly. Definitely not something you would want to switch back and forth. You can dual boot with 32-bit and 64-bit versions. I know people who do it now. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: You can dual boot with 32-bit and 64-bit versions. I know people who do it now. Now you are being silly just to prove a point. Most people do not dual boot and may who try find themselves in a world of pain. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2
Is anyone else finding this latest update of Firefox to be more similar to a demolition derby than a browser. It's crashing every time it's opened on my machines. Vista Home and XP machines. My son said he's been having a lot of problems since upgrading it on his pc and his search of user groups indicates that many people are having similar issues. Im on a Mac and haven't upgraded it yet,. I have enough problems from upgrading iTunes and the security update from a few months ago. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
