Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Now you are being silly just to prove a point. Most people do not dual boot and may who try find themselves in a world of pain. As if you have a point. Who cares if most people don't? Most people don't use Macs, but that doesn't stop you from using them. You can dual boot between 32 and 64 bit OSes and people I know do already. Fortunately the Windows ecosystem is much more 64-bit friendly today than it was only a year ago. What pain? It's no different from Boot Camp that you so loudly hooted about years ago. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Do you understand binary numbers, Tony? A 32-bit binary number cannot go beyond 4,294,967,296 (4 gigabytes, 4*1024*1024*1024), so a 32-bit system cannot address more than 4 GB. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- The 4gb memory limit is just a Windows licensing issue though. Unless Mac OS also has such licensing issues, this shouldn't be as big an advantage. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: A large advantage of 64-bit is getting past the 4B address limit. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2
I have 3.5.2 installed on a PC running XP, and, when it works, it works fine. But every so often it just stops and sits there with an hourglass icon for a minute or more. I can do other things on the PC, and there don't appear to be any other processes running that would cause a delay in the system. Very frustrating. But I have another unrelated(?) problem: I have tried every suggestion in the various help forums, but I cannot assign a application to file type - every time that want to open, for instance, a .wmv file, it asks what application I want to use. I find the application, click on the box marked use this application every time, and it still asks the next time. I also cannot change the settings to open a new tab automatically when click on a URL in another application (i.e. mail). It just opens the URL in whatever tab is open at the time. (Yes, I have gone to the tools menu and made all the changes, but they have been ignored - it is as if the ability to change the various options have all been locked out.) I am afraid that my only choice may be to uninstall Firefox and start all over from scratch, but I don't want to loose my bookmarks. Mike Paula Minor wrote: Is anyone else finding this latest update of Firefox to be more similar to a demolition derby than a browser. It's crashing every time it's opened on my machines. Vista Home and XP machines. My son said he's been having a lot of problems since upgrading it on his pc and his search of user groups indicates that many people are having similar issues. Im on a Mac and haven't upgraded it yet,. I have enough problems from upgrading iTunes and the security update from a few months ago. Paula * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
I should have, for those who do not know binary numbers, shown how to see this. Binary numbers are similar to base-10 numbers, in that each digit to the left is 2-times as large as the digit to the right. In base-10, each digit to the left is ten-times as large, for example 10 vs. 100. In binary numbers all digits are a one or a zero, so two would be 10. The easiest way to see the 4 GB limit of a 32-bit binary number is to use a spread sheet. In the first cell, type a 1 (one). In the next 31 cells enter 2*previous cell address. Then sum the 32 cells and you can see the binary equivalent of four gigabytes. Te sum represents a binary number consisting of 32 ones, its maximum value. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Do you understand binary numbers, Tony? A 32-bit binary number cannot go beyond 4,294,967,296 (4 gigabytes, 4*1024*1024*1024), so a 32-bit system cannot address more than 4 GB. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Mark is correct. 4 GB is a physical limitation of 32-bit kernels, which is the best reason to go 64-bit: no real limitation to the amount of RAM you can use, other than what the motherboard will support. However, I can recall when 32-bit came around in the 90's, Wow! 4 GB of RAM! We'll never see that in our lifetime. Amiga was 32-bit very early, correct? PAE is a workaround for datacenter systems. From Tony's wiki link: x86 processor hardware architecture is augmented with additional address lines used to select the additional memory, so physical address size is increased from 32 bits to 36 bits. This, theoretically, increases maximum physical memory size from 4 GB to 64 GB. The 32-bit size of the virtual address is not changed, so regular application software continues to use instructions with 32-bit addresses and (in a flat memory model) is limited to 4 gigabytes of virtual address space. The operating system uses page tables to map this 4 GB address space into the 64 GB of virtual memory. The mapping is typically applied differently for each process. In this way, the extra memory is useful even though no single regular application can access it all simultaneously. For example, in Windows, x86, 32-bit-versions, the maximum 4GB of virtual address space (VAS) is separated into two sections of 2GB: 2GB is allocated to kernel processing and the other 2GB is allocated to user. Regardless of how much physical RAM a Windows, x86, 32-bit-version computing system has, the VAS is still limited to 4GB. However, this is not true for Windows, x64-versions - which incidentally have up to 16TB of VAS. -Original Message- Do you understand binary numbers, Tony? A 32-bit binary number cannot go beyond 4,294,967,296 (4 gigabytes, 4*1024*1024*1024), so a 32-bit system cannot address more than 4 GB. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Vista's problem wasn't 64 or 32bit related it was that drivers were not written for vista until it had been out nearly a year. You can blame this on MS only in that they may have not given the code to software writers soon enough. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:06 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: And Windows has been 64-bit for several years now. The problem has been in driver support and app compatibility, no surprise there. Precisely. Apple knows that some drivers won't work right with the 64 kernel, but it doesn't know if you have such drivers. It suspects that you probably do so the default is 32 bit. You can try 64 by starting up with the 6 and 4 keys depressed and from then on it will run with the 64 kernel. If you run into trouble you restart with 3 and 2 depressed and that puts you back to a 32 kernel. A very elegant solution to a problem that gave Vista users conniptions. What I don't understand is why WFBs have such a hard time understanding something so simple. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
My understanding of the Mess Vista got introduced to was yes it was MS not releasing code and not allowing coders access to needed knowledge. I remember a few of the antivirus folks complaining quite publicly about this. Seems that they did a lot more work with 7. Stewart At 07:57 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: Vista's problem wasn't 64 or 32bit related it was that drivers were not written for vista until it had been out nearly a year. You can blame this on MS only in that they may have not given the code to software writers soon enough. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
My understanding of the Mess Vista got introduced to was yes it was MS not releasing code and not allowing coders access to needed knowledge. I remember a few of the antivirus folks complaining quite publicly about this. Seems that they did a lot more work with 7. The anti-virus folks, most notably Symantec, complained because MS changed the kernel security and wouldn't let them hook in that level. MS eventually caved, which was a mistake. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Vista's problem wasn't 64 or 32bit related it was that drivers were not written for vista until it had been out nearly a year. You can blame this on MS only in that they may have not given the code to software writers soon enough. I don't even blame MS for that. The Vista beta's were out over a year before Vista was released; there was tons of lead time even for the 32-bit drivers. This is just another instance of the industry sitting on their hands. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Thanks for the quick lesson. But it has nothing to do with what I said. You probably missed the link Vicky gave which explains it better than I can. Tom never actually told us if previous versions of 32 bit Mac OS have been able to use more than 4gb ram, instead going off on a rant. That 32-bit editions of Windows Vista are limited to 4GB is not because of any physical or technical constraint on 32-bit operating systems. The 32-bit editions of Windows Vista all contain code for using physical memory above 4GB. Microsoft just doesn’t license you to use that code. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Do you understand binary numbers, Tony? A 32-bit binary number cannot go beyond 4,294,967,296 (4 gigabytes, 4*1024*1024*1024), so a 32-bit system cannot address more than 4 GB. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit
Tony, you are confusing schemes to virtually address modestly more than the 32-bit limit by stretching it to a number some 4-16 times the actual limit for a 32-bit binary number. Apple never played those virtual address games with 32-bit operating systems (starting with MAC OS 7 or 7.1 in about 1991). A 32-bit binary number can not go beyond about 4.3 billion addresses. The limit for a 64-bit binary number is 18,446,744,073,709,600,000, or about 4.3 billion times more than a 32-bit number. So with your 64-bit OS, you just need to find hardware that can accommodate 18 Exabyte's of memory. (Exabyte is a gigabyte squared.) Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Thanks for the quick lesson. But it has nothing to do with what I said. You probably missed the link Vicky gave which explains it better than I can. Tom never actually told us if previous versions of 32 bit Mac OS have been able to use more than 4gb ram, instead going off on a rant. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Tony Bton...@gmail.com wrote: Don't bother; it's just an ad for software. Oddly, it's software that allows someone to run their PC on a Mac, which simply means a lot of those figures Tom's quoting are probably inaccurate. I mean, if someone buys a Mac and runs their PC on it, are they a Windows user or a Mac user? An intriguing question...Windows user or Mac user? Depends. One thing is certain. Windows user or Mac user, it is still a Macintosh computer, which is exactly why so many folks who are wedded to Windows applications have chosen the Mac over all the other brands that come with Windows installed. All Windows user that I know who have recently bought a Mac to run their Windows apps on say that the quality of the machine was paramount in their decision. Secondly, they were intrigued about the Mac OS but really knew nothing about it. However, after trying it out, they liked it very much and would prefer to do as much work in that environment as they possibly could. Indeed, and for the most part, the only reason they see to stick with some Windows apps is for job related stuff that may require Windows unless they can find a Mac app that is compatible. Did these folks experience any sticker shock? Yes, that all say they did, but after a bit of time spent exploring the computer and working in the Mac environment, along with the option of Windows for work needs, they all say that the extra cost is easily justified. Apple's support alone compensates for the extra cost is something that I have been told by some of these folks. Not one that I know of has said they they made a mistake. Most have said they just cannot imagine ever going back to any Windows only computer. Of course, this is all purely anecdotal. I am sure that there are some who would say that anything Macintosh is something to be avoided at any cost. Just watch the laptop hunters ads to find these people. Steve On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:22 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote: If I click on the link, do you get a kickback? I'll click twice to help the economy if so... On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://www.parallels.com/news/id,19860 Parallels Desktop Switch to Mac Edition Offers Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.5.2
...(Yes, I have gone to the tools menu and made all the changes, but they have been ignored - it is as if the ability to change the various options have all been locked out.) I am afraid that my only choice may be to uninstall Firefox and start all over from scratch, but I don't want to loose my bookmarks. Find your Firefox profile. Save the bookmarks.html file. For passwords, save key3.db and signons.sqlite. Save the entire profile by moving it to a different location. The other settings may be broken. You can create a new profile. See: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Recovering+important+data+from+an+old+profile?style_mode=inproducts=new+profile http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Profiles?style_mode=inproduct It might work better for you to create a new profile first to see how well that works, then copy the bookmarks and passwords and other settings back into the new profile later. You can open the original bookmarks file as a web page no matter where it's stored on your drive until FF is behaving properly. One of the reasons I like Mozilla's browsers is that they're so easy to revise and troubleshoot. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Sudden MAC OS X V4 Inefficiency
Thanks to all for your suggestions. So far I've tried: - Clearing the Safari Cache - Clicking the renew the DHCP lease - Adding DNS sites; and - Reviewing the configuration of my modem. Nothing so far has worked. A curious tendency is for the web to get back to normal within the first five minutes of use.and then steadily degrade... I can see the signal strength fade once we get to about ten minutes of use and longer. I'll keep investigating. Arnold * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sudden MAC OS X V4 Inefficiency
How about turning off and on your wireless radio (on the computer) when you see the signal strength fading? - Original Message - From: Arnold Kee a...@expandingthecircle.org To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Sudden MAC OS X V4 Inefficiency Thanks to all for your suggestions. So far I've tried: - Clearing the Safari Cache - Clicking the renew the DHCP lease - Adding DNS sites; and - Reviewing the configuration of my modem. Nothing so far has worked. A curious tendency is for the web to get back to normal within the first five minutes of use.and then steadily degrade... I can see the signal strength fade once we get to about ten minutes of use and longer. I'll keep investigating. Arnold * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] mobo won't post
Before I send this new Intel mobo in for a replacement, could there be something I'm overlooking? It's got on board video, so I hooked up a monitor. mouse and keyboard 3 power supply connections (long one, and the 4 pin on the other side) memory cpu hard drive But I get no POST. The +5 LED lights and it powers up. The cpu fan spins. No beeps, no video. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Postcard virus
Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email entitled Postcard. As a Mac user I guess getting emails like this are the greatest threat. Here's what it says: *checked with Norton Anti-Virus, and they are gearing up for this virus! I checked Snopes, and it is for real. Get this E-mail message sent around to your contacts ASAP. * PLEASE FORWARD THIS WARNING AMONG FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CONTACTS! You should be alert during the next few days. Do not open any message with an attachment entitled 'POSTCARD FROM HALLMARK,' regardless of who sent it to you. It is a virus which opens A POSTCARD IMAGE, which 'burns' the whole hard Disk C of your computer.. This virus will be received from someone who has your e-mail address in his/her contact list. This is the reason why you need to send this e-mail to all your contacts. It is better to receive this message 25 times than to receive the virus and open it. If you receive a mail called 'POSTCARD,' even though sent to you by a friend, do not open it! Shut down your computer immediately. This is the worst virus announced by CNN. It has been classified by Microsoft as the most destructive virus ever. This virus was discovered by McAfee yesterday, and there is no repair yet for this kind of virus. This virus simply destroys the Zero Sector of the Hard Disc, where the vital information is kept. COPY THIS E-MAIL, AND SEND IT TO YOUR FRIENDS. REMEMBER: IF YOU SEND IT TO THEM, YOU WILL BENEFIT ALL OF US. = * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Digital TV for PC 2
List members : Does anyone have experience and an opinion about software called Digital TV for PC2 , which is supposed to turn almost any PC into a TV with thousands of channels ? Thanks , tom.chamb...@wdn.com -- We can't all , and some of us don't - Eeyore * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
If you really looked this up at Snopes, you sure didn't read very well. If you trusted _someone else_ to look it up at Snopes and read it, shame on you. http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/postcard.asp Although the Postcard virus is real, it isn't a BIG VIRUS COMING (it's already been around in multiple forms for a long time now), it will not burn the whole hard disc of your computer, CNN didn't classify it as the worst virus ever, and it doesn't arrive in messages bearing a subject line of 'Invitation.' On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Jordanjor17...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email entitled Postcard. As a Mac user I guess getting emails like this are the greatest threat. Here's what it says: *checked with Norton Anti-Virus, and they are gearing up for this virus! I checked Snopes, and it is for real. Get this E-mail message sent around to your contacts ASAP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_postcard_virus.htm On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email entitled Postcard. As a Mac user I guess getting emails like this are the greatest threat. Here's what it says: *checked with Norton Anti-Virus, and they are gearing up for this virus! I checked Snopes, and it is for real. Get this E-mail message sent around to your contacts ASAP. * PLEASE FORWARD THIS WARNING AMONG FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CONTACTS! You should be alert during the next few days. Do not open any message with an attachment entitled 'POSTCARD FROM HALLMARK,' regardless of who sent it to you. It is a virus which opens A POSTCARD IMAGE, which 'burns' the whole hard Disk C of your computer.. This virus will be received from someone who has your e-mail address in his/her contact list. This is the reason why you need to send this e-mail to all your contacts. It is better to receive this message 25 times than to receive the virus and open it. If you receive a mail called 'POSTCARD,' even though sent to you by a friend, do not open it! Shut down your computer immediately. This is the worst virus announced by CNN. It has been classified by Microsoft as the most destructive virus ever. This virus was discovered by McAfee yesterday, and there is no repair yet for this kind of virus. This virus simply destroys the Zero Sector of the Hard Disc, where the vital information is kept. COPY THIS E-MAIL, AND SEND IT TO YOUR FRIENDS. REMEMBER: IF YOU SEND IT TO THEM, YOU WILL BENEFIT ALL OF US. = * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
It's an old hoax. Consider getting a new friend. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Jordanjor17...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email entitled Postcard. As a Mac user I guess getting emails like this are the greatest threat. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
Tony B wrote: If you really looked this up at Snopes, you sure didn't read very well. If you trusted _someone else_ to look it up at Snopes and read it, shame on you. http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/postcard.asp I didn't say I looked it up at Snopes or anywhere else. I would have no reason to, and the guy who sent it to me is on a Mac too. But thanks for the heads up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
Kind of ironic..the mac guys are more worried then pc guys. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Tony B wrote: If you really looked this up at Snopes, you sure didn't read very well. If you trusted _someone else_ to look it up at Snopes and read it, shame on you. http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/postcard.asp I didn't say I looked it up at Snopes or anywhere else. I would have no reason to, and the guy who sent it to me is on a Mac too. But thanks for the heads up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Digital TV for PC 2
I've tried international TV. Yes, there are probably that many channels out there. Tuning them in when you want to watch them is problematical. I believe there is freeware software available to assist in this. Sporadic claims of being able to watch a distant football game occasionally. But for entertainment value the internet still pales compared to commercial TV. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Tom Chamberstom.chamb...@wdn.com wrote: List members : Does anyone have experience and an opinion about software called Digital TV for PC2 , which is supposed to turn almost any PC into a TV with thousands of channels ? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
Always looking up these things on Snopes before believing or forwarding (or in many cases, reading), is a great idea. Over the years, I think I've only seen one warning that was actually legitimate. Snopes has helped keep me safe, as well as keeping me from embarrassing myself with my friends. Richard P. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Jordanjor17...@gmail.com wrote: Tony B wrote: If you really looked this up at Snopes, you sure didn't read very well. If you trusted _someone else_ to look it up at Snopes and read it, shame on you. http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/postcard.asp I didn't say I looked it up at Snopes or anywhere else. I would have no reason to, and the guy who sent it to me is on a Mac too. But thanks for the heads up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
On Aug 27, 2009, at 7:04 PM, mike wrote: Kind of ironic..the mac guys are more worried then pc guys. WFBs can't detect that they are being mocked. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/08/microsoft-002225.php Those miracle workers in Redmond have had a busy day. What will they think of next? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
t.piwowar wrote: WFBs can't detect that they are being mocked. Shh! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] One Upmanship
Windows 7 Ultimate can support up to 192 GB of RAM. Less expensive versions of Windows can go fish. Snow Leopard can support a staggering 16 Tbytes. WFB sez: Who needs RAM? I have 640K in my system and its fine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:01 PM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: Those miracle workers in Redmond have had a busy day. What will they think of next? Anything for a buck. Totally unacceptable. Vicious and reprehensible advertising. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sudden MAC OS X V4 Inefficiency
On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Arnold Kee wrote: A curious tendency is for the web to get back to normal within the first five minutes of use.and then steadily degrade... I can see the signal strength fade once we get to about ten minutes of use and longer. This story suggests that a problem with an app can cause the CPU to overheat and throttle down. This would match what you observe. http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20090827104025561 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Snow Leopard Review
The NY Times has David Pogue's review of Snow Leopard. It looks like it is a review of the actual release and not the developer preview like I've seen elsewhere. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/technology/personaltech/27pogue.html?ref=global-homepagewanted=all There is a video of Snow Leopard in action on that page too. Pogue's review gives it generally good marks and reports few problems. He gives this link as a place to go to check on compatibility issues: http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ As might be expected, the issues that exist are primarily with older software, and older printers with the old non-CUPS drivers seem to be the most likely to have problems. I didn't see any deal-breaking issues for me, so I'm jumping right in and upgrading tomorrow. I am very safely backed up just in case of problems, so at worst I'll only lose an hour or two restoring the old system. I am so hoping the Safari feature that keeps flash from crashing the browser works as advertised. Flash plugin crashes have been an irritating problem for me lately in both Safari and Firefox. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
What the heck are you talking about? Since when is targeted advertising (which is basically, all good advertising) vicious and reprehensible? You do know that ads like this are just make believe? This is not a real life scene that's been altered because of racism. Only an advertising idiot would use a clipart scene of a woman in charge in say, Riyadh. Or a clipart with no white guys in 100% white Poland. Or is it Poland you find reprehensible for not having more black people? On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:53 PM, phartz...@gmail.comphartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:01 PM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: Those miracle workers in Redmond have had a busy day. What will they think of next? Anything for a buck. Totally unacceptable. Vicious and reprehensible advertising. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus
I've received many of them for some time now, several months, I think. They never specify a sender, so I am suspicious and don't open them. If I turn my virus checker on (which slows my machine down), it always reports them as viruses and quarantines them. I just erase them. Fred Holmes At 05:25 PM 8/27/2009, Jordan wrote: Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email entitled Postcard. As a Mac user I guess getting emails like this are the greatest threat. Here's what it says: *checked with Norton Anti-Virus, and they are gearing up for this virus! I checked Snopes, and it is for real. Get this E-mail message sent around to your contacts ASAP. * PLEASE FORWARD THIS WARNING AMONG FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CONTACTS! You should be alert during the next few days. Do not open any message with an attachment entitled 'POSTCARD FROM HALLMARK,' regardless of who sent it to you. It is a virus which opens A POSTCARD IMAGE, which 'burns' the whole hard Disk C of your computer.. This virus will be received from someone who has your e-mail address in his/her contact list. This is the reason why you need to send this e-mail to all your contacts. It is better to receive this message 25 times than to receive the virus and open it. If you receive a mail called 'POSTCARD,' even though sent to you by a friend, do not open it! Shut down your computer immediately. This is the worst virus announced by CNN. It has been classified by Microsoft as the most destructive virus ever. This virus was discovered by McAfee yesterday, and there is no repair yet for this kind of virus. This virus simply destroys the Zero Sector of the Hard Disc, where the vital information is kept. COPY THIS E-MAIL, AND SEND IT TO YOUR FRIENDS. REMEMBER: IF YOU SEND IT TO THEM, YOU WILL BENEFIT ALL OF US. = * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Tony B wrote: What the heck are you talking about? Since when is targeted advertising (which is basically, all good advertising) vicious and reprehensible? Its not like they put white hoods on all the people sitting at the table. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Will SL Finally FTFF?
Reviewing Apple's tech notes I'm seeing many small changes and improvements that I think will make Mac users far happier than flashy new features. This may be the upgrade that finally fixes the Finder. The Finder has been completely rewritten using the modern Cocoa framework in Mac OS X, taking advantage of the new technologies in Snow Leopard--including 64-bit support and Grand Central Dispatch. The familiar Finder interface is unchanged, but you will discover the Finder is faster and more responsive. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3737 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] One Upmanship
Windows 7 Ultimate can support up to 192 GB of RAM. Less expensive versions of Windows can go fish. Snow Leopard can support a staggering 16 Tbytes. 1 TB of 2 GB 1066MHz DDR3 ECC memory modules from Apple will cost you $50,000. 16 TB will cost $800,000. The good news is that shipping is free on orders over $50. You may want to get a good supply of duct tape, and maybe a hammer too, to get all of that into the open slots. Have fun. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
I know every one loves a good conspiracy theory, but if you read the article closely, the advertising was changed in Europe and they did the whitening over in Europe. It was not done in Redmond but in Europe. Racism is alive and well all over the world. Stewart At 10:05 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Tony B wrote: What the heck are you talking about? Since when is targeted advertising (which is basically, all good advertising) vicious and reprehensible? Its not like they put white hoods on all the people sitting at the table. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
Then how do you explain the Windows/Mac crap? Stewart At 11:18 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I know every one loves a good conspiracy theory, but if you read the article closely, the advertising was changed in Europe and they did the whitening over in Europe. It was not done in Redmond but in Europe. Perhaps so, but Redmond must shoulder the responsibility and is apparently responding. The ad was produced in the name of Microsoft and was probably paid for by Microsoft. Racism is alive and well all over the world. I thought that the international aspects of computing and the internet was supposed to bring us all together as one. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I know every one loves a good conspiracy theory, but if you read the article closely, the advertising was changed in Europe and they did the whitening over in Europe. It was not done in Redmond but in Europe. Perhaps so, but Redmond must shoulder the responsibility and is apparently responding. The ad was produced in the name of Microsoft and was probably paid for by Microsoft. Racism is alive and well all over the world. I thought that the international aspects of computing and the internet was supposed to bring us all together as one. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
Well the bringing together only applies when you completely agree with the MFB's. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Then how do you explain the Windows/Mac crap? Stewart At 11:18 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I know every one loves a good conspiracy theory, but if you read the article closely, the advertising was changed in Europe and they did the whitening over in Europe. It was not done in Redmond but in Europe. Perhaps so, but Redmond must shoulder the responsibility and is apparently responding. The ad was produced in the name of Microsoft and was probably paid for by Microsoft. Racism is alive and well all over the world. I thought that the international aspects of computing and the internet was supposed to bring us all together as one. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
