Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives with U3 installed and there was a file on the drive that says REMOVE U3 (or uninstall). I did it on most of them and it worked fine after answering that I was sure that I wanted to remove the applications that they had installed on the drive (Kinda like crapware) YMMV Rich At 09:12 PM 10/31/2009, you wrote: Date:Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:12:05 -0400 From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: Speaking of flash drives On Oct 31, 2009, at 2:39 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: Google U3 Removal. There are ways to get that space back. This is surprisingly hard to do. I have had some success with a utility from HP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
IMAP keeps a copy of all your mail and folders on the server so you can access all of it from multiple machines and webmail. POP doesn't. In most cases POP moves the mail to your computer each time you get your mail. IMAP costs more therefore. But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper than Earthlink or ATT give you POP. db Marcio wrote: Now, here I have an important question: what is the difference between POP and MAPI... Eudora gives me this choice... Will love to know. Many thanks Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 1, 2009 12:13 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] online storage On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I do have email on my phone (no more smartphone) but when I do a local download at home, poof there goes those email messages, plus the attachments and such are not available. (I get important documents that way, plus info) Stop using POP! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I have installed Eudora 7 (paid) on Windows 7 without any problems. Installing on my D drive in the D:\eudora directory and the attachments in the D:\eudora\attach sub directory. It is very configurable and just works. The main reason I installed it on my D drive is that has a lot more space and the C drive is a SSD. I have been using Eudora since the 80's when it first came out. believe my first version was something like 2.2 or so. Whenever I get a new main computer, I always install Eudora in the same directory name and then don't execute the program, I copy the whole sub directory and below to the new computers Eudora directory and all is well. Never a problem and I won't change until they pry the email from my cold dead fingers. GGG Rich PS: I support clients with Outlook as that is what pays for my toys.. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:52 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The truth appears in driblets... multitouch, which the Droid doesn't do I am sure that the Droid will cover a number of the bases that the iPhone does not handle. This should not surprise anyone. Had the Droid developers and engineers not been able to observe and take note of potential features that were lacking in the iPhone, they could have been accused of gross incompetence. It is actually pretty easy to note what is lacking in an existing product, and decide to make those features available in one you are in the process of conceiving. As more smart phones hit the market in the future, I suspect we are going to see a reversal of the penchant for making ever smaller ones, with more of the feature laden devices becoming larger and larger in order to accommodate the components required to make the phone able to do things such as hurl that bowling ball down the lane for you. Okay, that's a bit silly, but you get the point...i guess. Phone makers will have to initiate a new paradigm in advertising to cause consumers to embrace bigness as opposed to smallness. After all, a big phone makes for a much more noticeable and impressionable item when it comes to bragging rights as in, Look at the size of that dude's phone! Steve PS: As suspected, that 5MP camera in the Droid is fairly noisy from reviews I have read, pretty much negating any advantage 5MP should be expected to have over 3MP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
Thanks very much for all the input. After some reading it seems to me that easiest way to remove it was to crank up a Windows machine, that I had not started in a couple years, and use the utilities on the stick to uninstall. I didn't want to put a utility on my Mac to do it and a method using terminal did not work. Thanks again John DeCarlo wrote: Google U3 Removal. There are ways to get that space back. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to flash drives. The SanDisk flash I have loads a separate volume called U3 System which is clearly meant for Windows users. Is there a way to get rid of this on the Mac? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
HTC has a new phone with a 4.3 touch screen. So there are larger devices coming. HTC also apparently has new ads just to get their name out there as the ad barely shows a phone...although its a Sprint hero they do show. It's more an ad about HTC having a phone that can match your different needs. I've also read the 5mp cam isn't all that great, but those who look at just mp count don't know enough to care about good pics anyway. On Nov 1, 2009 4:42 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:52 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The truth appears in driblets... ... I am sure that the Droid will cover a number of the bases that the iPhone does not handle. This should not surprise anyone. Had the Droid developers and engineers not been able to observe and take note of potential features that were lacking in the iPhone, they could have been accused of gross incompetence. It is actually pretty easy to note what is lacking in an existing product, and decide to make those features available in one you are in the process of conceiving. As more smart phones hit the market in the future, I suspect we are going to see a reversal of the penchant for making ever smaller ones, with more of the feature laden devices becoming larger and larger in order to accommodate the components required to make the phone able to do things such as hurl that bowling ball down the lane for you. Okay, that's a bit silly, but you get the point...i guess. Phone makers will have to initiate a new paradigm in advertising to cause consumers to embrace bigness as opposed to smallness. After all, a big phone makes for a much more noticeable and impressionable item when it comes to bragging rights as in, Look at the size of that dude's phone! Steve PS: As suspected, that 5MP camera in the Droid is fairly noisy from reviews I have read, pretty much negating any advantage 5MP should be expected to have over 3MP. * ** List info, subscript... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:16 AM, db db...@att.net wrote: IMAP keeps a copy of all your mail and folders on the server so you can access all of it from multiple machines and webmail. POP doesn't. In most cases POP moves the mail to your computer each time you get your mail. IMAP costs more therefore. GMAIL lets you do both. I do both IMAP and POP with my main mail to thunderbird. I read the IMAP feed several places and like how it tracks things. The POP is a dump of everything for my records. What is the relationship between MAPI and IMAP? MAPI is apparently a M$ protocol. The wikipedia references don't compare or cross reference them. MAPI - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messaging_Application_Programming_Interface IMAP- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protocol John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
On Nov 1, 2009, at 11:25 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: What is the relationship between MAPI and IMAP? MAPI is apparently a M$ protocol. The wikipedia references don't compare or cross reference them. Hasn't M$ has pretty much admitted that their protocol is crap by promising major changes in the next release? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:16 AM, db wrote: But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper than Earthlink or ATT give you POP. Note that hosts like GoDaddy are not well managed so find themselves on blacklists for various configuration-related infractions. I have better things to do than to spend hours on the phone trying to get them to fix their servers so emails can be reliably delivered. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: PS: As suspected, that 5MP camera in the Droid is fairly noisy from reviews I have read, pretty much negating any advantage 5MP should be expected to have over 3MP. Further reinforcing the impression that it is the phone for rubes and backwoods droids. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that the Droid will cover a number of the bases that the iPhone does not handle... Here's one... Is the Motorola Droid ugly? ... I know you'll tell me phones aren't supposed to be cute. They're supposed to be fabulously functional devices that liberate you from your daily grind. And I will tell you that if the iPhone wasn't such a fabulously pretty little thing, they wouldn't even sell a tenth of the number they have. Yet it doesn't look revolutionary. Perhaps, when one espies this new device and takes it into one's palms, they will sweat uncontrollably as it radiates a charm that has not yet been exposed by lenses. Yet right now the Droid feels utilitarian rather than breakthrough. It seems to have all the sex appeal of a middle manager. It's not necessarily right that the world should be this way. But humans are who we are--ridiculously susceptible to the surface pleasure.: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10386430-71.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Rich Schinnell wrote: Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives with U3 installed and there was a file on the drive that says REMOVE U3 (or uninstall). I'm glad to see that somebody is doing it right. Can you cite any brands that do this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Marcio wrote: I have asked and I repeat... what is a better alternative today? Or at least comparable?... And mind you I do use web mail too... Can't say because our EFBs have not articulated any serious reasons for sticking with Eudora. I resisted switching away from my Claris Emailer to such an extent that I kept an old OS 9 configuration running for over 5 years just so I could keep my Emailer. I found the transition to Apple Mail to be fairly painless and now very much appreciate the newer email features that I get from a more modern program. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
The cheeky ad seems to have inspired the press to draw up doesn't have lists... Droid lacks Apple's secret weapon: iTunes http://news.cnet.com/8301-13526_3-10378321-27.html But here's the thing: one reason for the runaway success of the iPhone--and one of the reasons why Apple still continues to sell more than 10 million iPods per quarter--is iTunes. Not so much the store, although that's an important component, but the software. Of course there are plenty of other applications out there that help you rip CDs and organize your digital music collection. And there are plenty of other sources for online music. But the real strength of iTunes is in the sync process--you plug your iPhone in, iTunes opens up automatically and recognizes it. Hit the large Sync button and it automatically loads your music (and video, and apps, and anything else you choose) onto it. (With some devices, depending on your settings, you don't even need to hit Sync.) That's the simple, consumer- friendly, end-to-end experience that Apple figured out first. Contrast that with the multi-step process required to transfer music from a Windows PC to the first Android phone that was available in the U.S., last year's G1. Amazon provided over-the-air MP3 downloads for that phone, giving it a rough equivalent to the over-the-air version of the iTunes store, but let's face it: most digital music is not purchased, but is ripped from a CD or comes from some other source (legal or not). Verizon, Motorola, and Google haven't said much about music for the Droid. Maybe they still have a musical trick or two up their collective sleeves. But without some sort of equivalent to the iTunes desktop application, the Droid may be a great phone, but it won't be a great music phone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
I've read a couple that said the cam was quite a bit better then iphones, and video much better. Perhaps some shots will surface. On Nov 1, 2009 11:44 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: PS: As suspected, that 5MP camera in the Droid is fairly noisy from reviews I have read, prett... Further reinforcing the impression that it is the phone for rubes and backwoods droids. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] .pdb files
On Nov 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I heard (I believe on this list) that Palm was going to discontinue their OS. I have some pdb files I would like not to loose. Is there a way to transfer them to another format? There seem to be a bunch of options... http://www.google.com/search?q=pdb+Palm+database * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:13 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I do have email on my phone (no more smartphone) but when I do a local download at home, poof there goes those email messages, plus the attachments and such are not available. (I get important documents that way, plus info) Stop using POP! Or just change the settings not to erase off the servers. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
The SanDisks and the Cruzer ones I was working with had uninstalls on them. It was having to dig out my Windows computer to uninstall that I didn't like. Yes, I know I'm spoiled. tjpa wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Rich Schinnell wrote: Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives with U3 installed and there was a file on the drive that says REMOVE U3 (or uninstall). I'm glad to see that somebody is doing it right. Can you cite any brands that do this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
Since Mike is so desperate to find out what the Droid can't do that the iPhone can, here's two: Because the Droid is built for Verizon's mostly CDMA network, you don't have simultaneous data and voice. So you can't for example do a web search for restaurants while making dinner plans with your caller, or find a map while also getting verbal help. You can only install 256MB of applications on the dedicated hardwired flash memory and can't install them on the memory card. This is isn't a general android problem or hardware limitation, but is an imposed security/anti-piracy restriction specifically on the Droid. So this is another reason you won't have a tomtom app with it's gigabytes of maps. The iPhone limits you to 2GB for a single app, and the phone's entire capacity for all apps, I believe. It may be a good phone for its currently known limitations (and the future ones that Verizon will inevitably impose on it), but it is definitely over-hyped by Google's fans (GFBs?) and Apple-haters. From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer) Finally Tom gives us an answer. This one of those things like not including cut/paste in the first couple iPhone os's that makes users wonder what is going on. From forums on the web this looks like moto dropped the ball on this one since the hardware as well as android support multitouch. Multitouch does exist in the droid phone, just not where most want it most I think...the web browser. On Oct 31, 2009 6:58 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The truth appears in driblets... multitouch, which the Droid doesn't do * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
At 01:46 PM 11/1/2009 -0500, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Marcio wrote: I have asked and I repeat... what is a better alternative today? Or at least comparable?... And mind you I do use web mail too... Can't say because our EFBs have not articulated any serious reasons for sticking with Eudora. The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in pink backgrounds with yellow writing (stationeries) and animated smilies! I'd like to know what others think an email program _should do_ that Eudora doesn't. Long ago I switched from IE to (first) Mozilla and then Firefox. Initially it was because of all the pop-ups that couldn't be controlled within IE, and I saw no reason to install a pop-up blocker in IE when one was built in to Firefox. I switched from Norton AV to AVG because I ended up with all kinds of problems with Norton. I'll never put it on another machine I am associated with. AVG has never given me any problems and the price is good. :) I also run Avast on another machine, mainly because I wanted to compare AVG and Avast, and am happy with that also. I see no reason to switch either of those. I do have Thunderbird installed on a machine, mainly so that I can guide others with its use. It appears to be a fine program too, although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of real Eudora. I haven't really searched, but does T'Bird have the colored labels? I use that feature in Eudora quite often. I also like the 'trainable' junk feature--much simpler than setting up filters, and it works very well. If Eudora quits working, I guess I'll have no choice but to switch. Until then, I see no good reason to do it. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Sue you pretty well sum it up. I don't use the colored labels, but It is just something that works and works well. Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Well Eudora is one of those programs that just seems to work without a lot of bugs, reboots or p[roblems, kind of like that Mac OS you keep touting. Stewart At 04:16 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in pink backgrounds with yellow writing (stationeries) and animated smilies! I'd like to know what others think an email program _should do_ that Eudora doesn't. Long ago I switched from IE to (first) Mozilla and then Firefox. Initially it was because of all the pop-ups that couldn't be controlled within IE, and I saw no reason to install a pop-up blocker in IE when one was built in to Firefox. I switched from Norton AV to AVG because I ended up with all kinds of problems with Norton. I'll never put it on another machine I am associated with. AVG has never given me any problems and the price is good. :) I also run Avast on another machine, mainly because I wanted to compare AVG and Avast, and am happy with that also. I see no reason to switch either of those. I do have Thunderbird installed on a machine, mainly so that I can guide others with its use. It appears to be a fine program too, although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of real Eudora. I haven't really searched, but does T'Bird have the colored labels? I use that feature in Eudora quite often. I also like the 'trainable' junk feature--much simpler than setting up filters, and it works very well. If Eudora quits working, I guess I'll have no choice but to switch. Until then, I see no good reason to do it. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
Who do you think does a better job of hosting ... yet at a decent price? db tjpa wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:16 AM, db wrote: But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper than Earthlink or ATT give you POP. Note that hosts like GoDaddy are not well managed so find themselves on blacklists for various configuration-related infractions. I have better things to do than to spend hours on the phone trying to get them to fix their servers so emails can be reliably delivered. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:47 PM, db wrote: Who do you think does a better job of hosting ... yet at a decent price? Horrors no! There are plenty of low-cost suppliers that provide good service. I'm also pissed at all the GoDaddy spam directed my way. They are now black listed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in pink backgrounds with yellow writing (stationeries) and animated smilies! Pogue's got your number (replace XP with Eudora)... Yes, Windows XP remains a stalwart, reliable, brisk operating system. At the same time, sticking with XP forever isn’t a slam-dunk, either. You miss out on better security, better looks, better search and a huge number of convenience features. And over time, more and more cool products and services will require more recent software. http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/pogue-answers-reader-questions-on-windows-7/#more-1529 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Incorrect. I am just comparing Eudora to the email client I use daily, the one I know best. Don't forget that Eudora runs on Macs too. You could convince me to switch, but you are not doing a very good job of it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: I do have Thunderbird installed on a machine, mainly so that I can guide others with its use. It appears to be a fine program too, although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of real Eudora. I haven't really searched, but does T'Bird have the colored labels? I use that feature in Eudora quite often. I also like the 'trainable' junk feature--much simpler than setting up filters, and it works very well. I don't know if TBird does but my Apple Mail does. Does Eudora have smart folders or just filters? With filters an email can only reside in one place. With smart folders I can sort the same email into multiple categories. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Let us know when that time is. It has not come yet. Stewart At 05:01 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in pink backgrounds with yellow writing (stationeries) and animated smilies! Pogue's got your number (replace XP with Eudora)... Yes, Windows XP remains a stalwart, reliable, brisk operating system. At the same time, sticking with XP forever isn't a slam-dunk, either. You miss out on better security, better looks, better search and a huge number of convenience features. And over time, more and more cool products and services will require more recent software. http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/pogue-answers-reader-questions-on-windows-7/#more-1529 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
Cost is not the only factor in selecting a Web provider. Consistency, reliability and trustworthy ness also play into the formula. Stewart At 05:09 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Horrors no! There are plenty of low-cost suppliers that provide good service. I'm also pissed at all the GoDaddy spam directed my way. They are now black listed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
My job is not convince you. My job is just to tell you enough that you will do it on your own. If I am not that good of persuader than my job is done. Enjoy. Stewart At 05:07 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Incorrect. I am just comparing Eudora to the email client I use daily, the one I know best. Don't forget that Eudora runs on Macs too. You could convince me to switch, but you are not doing a very good job of it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
Good stuff David, I too am on CDMA and have that limitation which sucks. The 256 is an android problem and is on every android phone out there, has nothing to do with this being on verizon or being the moto droid phone. I've read some about this and have not seen anything regarding anti piracy, more concerns about removing the card when stuff is running from it. Theoretically, if someone would build an android phone with more internal memory like an iphone, all of it could be used for installs, as it stands the android is weak on internal memory which limits apps that can be installed, and the iphone is useless for external memory for expansion. This comes down to personal taste, if you are buying a phone soley for the apps, you won't be buying an android phone anyway. If you won't be missing any apps from iphone, then there is no reason to not look at this phone except it's on verizon and I'm sure they will charge for things like enabling the GPS chip as they do in their other phones. With the specs of this phones screen and it's CPU power, motorola should have built in some killer media apps, big mistake IMO that they didn't. Personally If I was with Verizon I'd wait for the sub 100 dollar eris, a solid upper mid range phone although without the physical keyboard. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:03 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote: Since Mike is so desperate to find out what the Droid can't do that the iPhone can, here's two: Because the Droid is built for Verizon's mostly CDMA network, you don't have simultaneous data and voice. So you can't for example do a web search for restaurants while making dinner plans with your caller, or find a map while also getting verbal help. You can only install 256MB of applications on the dedicated hardwired flash memory and can't install them on the memory card. This is isn't a general android problem or hardware limitation, but is an imposed security/anti-piracy restriction specifically on the Droid. So this is another reason you won't have a tomtom app with it's gigabytes of maps. The iPhone limits you to 2GB for a single app, and the phone's entire capacity for all apps, I believe. It may be a good phone for its currently known limitations (and the future ones that Verizon will inevitably impose on it), but it is definitely over-hyped by Google's fans (GFBs?) and Apple-haters. From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer) Finally Tom gives us an answer. This one of those things like not including cut/paste in the first couple iPhone os's that makes users wonder what is going on. From forums on the web this looks like moto dropped the ball on this one since the hardware as well as android support multitouch. Multitouch does exist in the droid phone, just not where most want it most I think...the web browser. On Oct 31, 2009 6:58 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The truth appears in driblets... multitouch, which the Droid doesn't do * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I used Eudora for some time on my mac, am I remembering correctly that it was mac only at one point? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:07 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Incorrect. I am just comparing Eudora to the email client I use daily, the one I know best. Don't forget that Eudora runs on Macs too. You could convince me to switch, but you are not doing a very good job of it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I have been using Eudora on a PC since my first real Internet connection, and that was before Windows 95. Eudora 1.1? I remember having to download Netscape. Configure the DNS servers etc. plus my dial up connection. Stewart At 05:42 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: I used Eudora for some time on my mac, am I remembering correctly that it was mac only at one point? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:35 PM, mike wrote: I've read some about this and have not seen anything regarding anti piracy, more concerns about removing the card when stuff is running from it. Theoretically, if someone would build an android phone with more internal memory like an iphone, all of it could be used for installs, as it stands the android is weak on internal memory If, if, if... A smart phone that has less storage than my 5 year old Palm Tungsten. With a tiny apps partition like that I'm definitely not interested. I'll stick to my Palm. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:03 PM, David K Watson wrote: Since Mike is so desperate to find out what the Droid can't do that the iPhone can, here's two: It's like The Baiting Game... http://video.nytimes.com/video/playlist/technology/david-pogue/1194811622273/index.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
At 05:42 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: I used Eudora for some time on my mac, am I remembering correctly that it was mac only at one point? Probably. PowerPoint was first Mac only until M$ bought the company. M$ first developed Excel for the Mac (calling it MultiPlan). M$ first developed Word for the Mac. Etc. Etc. Etc. Much is just a poor copy of Mac. But why get the original when you can have a cheap copy? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Au Contraire monime. A little bit of rewriting history? 1986 ATT IBM computer had MS Word. DOS version. Dad worked for ATT and they got all MS products at a deep discount have a whole shelf full of them. Multiplan was multi platform. Used it on a different computer. Stewart At 06:40 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Probably. PowerPoint was first Mac only until M$ bought the company. M$ first developed Excel for the Mac (calling it MultiPlan). M$ first developed Word for the Mac. Etc. Etc. Etc. Much is just a poor copy of Mac. But why get the original when you can have a cheap copy? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
I know... that is why I was asking for your recommendation. Who gives the best reasonable hosting service at the least price in your opinion? db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Cost is not the only factor in selecting a Web provider. Consistency, reliability and trustworthy ness also play into the formula. Stewart At 05:09 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Horrors no! There are plenty of low-cost suppliers that provide good service. I'm also pissed at all the GoDaddy spam directed my way. They are now black listed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
Here are some recommendations I got. Hostmonster 1and1 I have not personally sued them but am looking right now for a new webstart. I also have used and am personally using Directnic for a website. $47.00 per year. Stewart At 07:40 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: I know... that is why I was asking for your recommendation. Who gives the best reasonable hosting service at the least price in your opinion? db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Cost is not the only factor in selecting a Web provider. Consistency, reliability and trustworthy ness also play into the formula. Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
On Nov 1, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: 1986 ATT IBM computer had MS Word. DOS version. Word for MS-DOS used the word Word in its title, but that program was nothing like what anyone would associate with M$ Word... in Word for MS-DOS, a file would be saved with the sequence Escape-T- S: pressing Escape called up the menu box, T accessed the set of options for Transfer and S was for Save... etc. Multiplan was multi platform. Eventually it was. Neither of these predecessors got any significant sales until they retooled to copy what was already on the Mac. Of course with WFBs thinking the Zune is equivalent to the iPod Touch, so there is no telling what kind of wild claims may be made. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: 1and1 I use 1and 1 and they are fine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
Yes we know David Pogue as the AFB he is. The last word on that moto cliq even resorts to...being completely misleading if not lying. Only 2 gigs of storage she exclaims! This of course referring to the 2 gigs of storage included in the phone which is expandable to 32. I'm sure this was left out on accident and not for any other reason. This seems to be more about Pogue losing some cred than about those phones. I can't say I'll expect any serious reviews from him. BTW, any mongoloid who buys a phone they have never looked at, never read about, never used and doesn't know the network it's running on deserves every bit of aggrevation they get. What was it first? CNN fact checking SNL and now Tom leaving this link as if it has even one valid point to make. Pure entertainment and should be watched as such. And only when very bored. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:03 PM, David K Watson wrote: Since Mike is so desperate to find out what the Droid can't do that the iPhone can, here's two: It's like The Baiting Game... http://video.nytimes.com/video/playlist/technology/david-pogue/1194811622273/index.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)
You mean this is about as entertaining as listening to Limbaugh? Stewart At 08:44 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Yes we know David Pogue as the AFB he is. The last word on that moto cliq even resorts to...being completely misleading if not lying. Only 2 gigs of storage she exclaims! This of course referring to the 2 gigs of storage included in the phone which is expandable to 32. I'm sure this was left out on accident and not for any other reason. This seems to be more about Pogue losing some cred than about those phones. I can't say I'll expect any serious reviews from him. BTW, any mongoloid who buys a phone they have never looked at, never read about, never used and doesn't know the network it's running on deserves every bit of aggrevation they get. What was it first? CNN fact checking SNL and now Tom leaving this link as if it has even one valid point to make. Pure entertainment and should be watched as such. And only when very bored. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Not sure how the zune is to a WFB, but to regular people it is better hardware and geared more towards those who enjoy finding new music more often then not. As an app platform? Not the way to go. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:20 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Of course with WFBs thinking the Zune is equivalent to the iPod Touch, so there is no telling what kind of wild claims may be made. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
What you forgot to add was the GUI versions of Word, Excel etc. I used Multiplan on my C64. Mac came out before Windows I will give you that. But do not attempt to rewrite history. many programs were out before the Mac came about. With the new Graphical interface it did require programming changes and yes MS did have to develop these programs for the Mac because there was no Windows. So of course MS took those programs that they had been developing for a long time and used the knowledge they had gained writing GUI versions of Word etc. and made them for the MS Windows version. That is what is called a smart developer. The old company I worked for developed programs using Accucobol. With the advent of Windows Machines (Mid 90's) they had to develop new programs that would operate under a new GUI. They had to change programming languages etc. You remember your version of history I will remember the real version of history. Stewart At 08:20 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: 1986 ATT IBM computer had MS Word. DOS version. Word for MS-DOS used the word Word in its title, but that program was nothing like what anyone would associate with M$ Word... in Word for MS-DOS, a file would be saved with the sequence Escape-T- S: pressing Escape called up the menu box, T accessed the set of options for Transfer and S was for Save... etc. Multiplan was multi platform. Eventually it was. Neither of these predecessors got any significant sales until they retooled to copy what was already on the Mac. Of course with WFBs thinking the Zune is equivalent to the iPod Touch, so there is no telling what kind of wild claims may be made. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
I have Earthlink webmail and I can access my e-mail from any computer anywhere. Even if I send some to the trash they will remain there until I decide to delete them. Is this IMAP? But in my Eudora at home I have a internet server (Terra) and Eudora gets the mail and tehy don´t remain on the server. POP? Marcio -Original Message- From: db db...@att.net Sent: Nov 1, 2009 9:16 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI... IMAP keeps a copy of all your mail and folders on the server so you can access all of it from multiple machines and webmail. POP doesn't. In most cases POP moves the mail to your computer each time you get your mail. IMAP costs more therefore. But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper than Earthlink or ATT give you POP. db Marcio wrote: Now, here I have an important question: what is the difference between POP and MAPI... Eudora gives me this choice... Will love to know. Many thanks Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 1, 2009 12:13 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] online storage On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I do have email on my phone (no more smartphone) but when I do a local download at home, poof there goes those email messages, plus the attachments and such are not available. (I get important documents that way, plus info) Stop using POP! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Sue you can still download Eudora 7 from the site www.eudora.com. And if you have your serial number you can make it a paid copy. Marcio -Original Message- From: Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 At 01:46 PM 11/1/2009 -0500, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Marcio wrote: I have asked and I repeat... what is a better alternative today? Or at least comparable?... And mind you I do use web mail too... Can't say because our EFBs have not articulated any serious reasons for sticking with Eudora. The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in pink backgrounds with yellow writing (stationeries) and animated smilies! I'd like to know what others think an email program _should do_ that Eudora doesn't. Long ago I switched from IE to (first) Mozilla and then Firefox. Initially it was because of all the pop-ups that couldn't be controlled within IE, and I saw no reason to install a pop-up blocker in IE when one was built in to Firefox. I switched from Norton AV to AVG because I ended up with all kinds of problems with Norton. I'll never put it on another machine I am associated with. AVG has never given me any problems and the price is good. :) I also run Avast on another machine, mainly because I wanted to compare AVG and Avast, and am happy with that also. I see no reason to switch either of those. I do have Thunderbird installed on a machine, mainly so that I can guide others with its use. It appears to be a fine program too, although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of real Eudora. I haven't really searched, but does T'Bird have the colored labels? I use that feature in Eudora quite often. I also like the 'trainable' junk feature--much simpler than setting up filters, and it works very well. If Eudora quits working, I guess I'll have no choice but to switch. Until then, I see no good reason to do it. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Is Eudora for Mac the same as for PC? Have you really used it? Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 1, 2009 9:07 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Incorrect. I am just comparing Eudora to the email client I use daily, the one I know best. Don't forget that Eudora runs on Macs too. You could convince me to switch, but you are not doing a very good job of it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage
But have you seen modern cell coverage maps of the country? What part are you in that you can't get your email anywhere you need it? Offline access just isn't a factor any longer. Have you seen how expensive cellular data plans are? Most people with mobile phones don't have them. Most people with notebook computers don't have them either. Doesn't matter what the coverage is, access cost is still extremely costly. How about a US map with open WiFi coverage? Not much. Can't get email everywhere. Not a factor, though, if you just stay home. We don't. We travel. Most of the country has little WiFi coverage, including here where I live, and the cellular coverage isn't much better. This is in Maryland. I'm sure it's much worse elsewhere in less populated areas. Carrying phones for 3 different providers there are many locations with no coverage, still. Does Kooskie, Idaho have good service yet? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week--after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents on a flash drive. Needless to say he no longer works at the local school. (His brilliance was matched by his incompetence.) Stewart At 11:24 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week--after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
I haven't really been paying attention to this thread, but now I think I should have. My son, for his birthday, wants a flash drive. I was looking at the 16gig one they have at Costco.com and here are the specs from that page. Capacity: 16GB Simple: Back up at the touch of a button, no cables or software installation needed Portable: Just put it in your pocket protect your files wherever you are Secure: Protect your data w/password protection AES hardware encryption Backed by the minds behind flash memory: with our patent pending backup technology 5-year limited warranty System Requirements: Intel® Pentium® PC or Mac computer w/USB support Windows XP, Vista (backup storage) Windows 2000, Mac OS X v10.1.2+ Linux (storage only) USB 2.0 port required for high-speed transfer Requires high-power USB hub port Anyway, my son is using a PC, but not sure of the OS. He built the computer himself, so it's mostly brandless. The OS is some flavor of windows and he built it in the last year so I'm guessing Vista. So, does this sound like a decent flash drive for him? I rarely use them myself so I know little to next to nothing about them. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Nov 1, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents on a flash drive. Needless to say he no longer works at the local school. (His brilliance was matched by his incompetence.) Stewart At 11:24 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week-- after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
I forgot to add this was a Sandisk flash drive. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Nov 1, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents on a flash drive. Needless to say he no longer works at the local school. (His brilliance was matched by his incompetence.) Stewart At 11:24 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week-- after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
