Re: [CGUYS] microsoft pays to pla...er screw us
It is M$ SOP. If M$ can't develop a better product and they can't force you to be acquired, they will pay others to beat you out of business. That is how Gates succeeded and built M# into the giant it is today. Hopefully, this won't work with Google. If not unethical, then truly an ugly business model. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Well it's not a dirty trick, friend of mine on irc said it was unethical. It's not either, it's paying for a job to get done. But as I said, they are just screwing users in the end. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] microsoft pays to pla...er screw us
Plus it seems like corporate suicide for News Corp. If I don't find it on Google it doesn't exist. FOX and the WSJ just announced that they are going out of business to a major portion of the world. This should be good for a 5% drop in the value of these properties day one. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: It is M$ SOP. If M$ can't develop a better product and they can't force you to be acquired, they will pay others to beat you out of business. That is how Gates succeeded and built M# into the giant it is today. Hopefully, this won't work with Google. If not unethical, then truly an ugly business model. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Well it's not a dirty trick, friend of mine on irc said it was unethical. It's not either, it's paying for a job to get done. But as I said, they are just screwing users in the end. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] microsoft pays to pla...er screw us
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:32 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: FOX and the WSJ just announced that they are going out of business to a major portion of the world. This should be good for a 5% drop in the value of these properties day one. I have no problem whatsoever with that. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] outlook 2003 bcc question
In Outlook 2003 on Vista HP, I'm testing BCCs to multiple addresses. The usage is a distribution list and I want to preserve privacy of the list members' email addresses. I want the received TO field to be empty. But, when I send BCCs only and leave TO (and CC) empty, somehow the received messages show the TO field filled in with the same value as the FROM field. This happens inside Outlook and that's not what I want. How can I fix this? Oddly, when I send CCs only and leave TO (and BCC) empty, the received TO remains empty. Thanks in advance. -Andy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] outlook 2003 bcc question
I don't use Outlook. But in general, the way to do it is to send the mail to yourself. The field won't be empty, but the bcc's won't see each other, only you. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Andy Gallant a...@agallant.com wrote: In Outlook 2003 on Vista HP, I'm testing BCCs to multiple addresses. The usage is a distribution list and I want to preserve privacy of the list members' email addresses. I want the received TO field to be empty. But, when I send BCCs only and leave TO (and CC) empty, somehow the received messages show the TO field filled in with the same value as the FROM field. This happens inside Outlook and that's not what I want. How can I fix this? Oddly, when I send CCs only and leave TO (and BCC) empty, the received TO remains empty. Thanks in advance. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Wikipedia
Not sure this is off-topic but is this a sign of the times: http://tinyurl.com/ygeo84p From The Times November 25, 2009 Wikipedia shows signs of stalling as number of volunteers falls sharply It was one of the internet’s most ambitious, radical and ultimately successful ideas. Eight years ago Wikipedia, the free online encyclopaedia that allows anyone to write and edit articles, declared that it would provide access to “the sum of all human knowledge”. It soon became one of world’s most popular websites. The site assumed that facts and information could be provided by all. Anyone was allowed to log on, write and change articles. Any subject — from Barack Obama’s election to characters in the Star Wars films — was considered worthy of inclusion. The pages have been updated and improved upon thousands of times and they are used more than 300 million times a month by everyone from primary school pupils to speechwriters — even if they should know better. Surprisingly to sceptics, who have long warned that inaccuracies abound on the website and that they can come to be regarded as fact, the project seems to have proven the wisdom of crowds. A recent study suggested that its pieces were just as accurate as those in the Encyclopaedia Britannica. Related Links * Wikipedia: an anti-intellectual venture * Wikifacts: five right, five wrong and five weird * Shifting sands offer poor foundations Fears are increasing, though, that the Wikipedia project could be starting to stall. Research reveals that the volunteers who create the pages, check facts and adapt the site are abandoning the site in unprecedented numbers. Every month tens of thousands of Wikipedia’s editors are going “dead” — no longer actively contributing and updating the site — without a similar number of new contributors taking their place. Some argue that Wikipedia’s troubles represent a new phase for the internet. Maybe, as some believe, the website has become part of the establishment that it was supposed to change. The research found that in the first three months of this year the English-language version of the site suffered a net loss of 49,000 contributors, compared with a loss of about 4,900 during the same period last year. Many experts believe that the trend could threaten Wikipedia’s future. The research was conducted by Felipe Ortega at Libresoft, a research group at the Universidad Rey Juan Carlos in Madrid. He created a computer system that analysed the editing history of more than three million active Wikipedia contributors in ten different languages. Mr Ortega told The Times: “If you don’t have enough people to take care of the project it could vanish quickly. We’re not in that situation yet. But eventually, if the negative trends follow, we could be in that situation.” His study suggests that editors are leaving the site in record numbers. In the latest period for which there are figures, across March and April this year, it lost about 23,000 of its 100,000 English-language editors. Mr Ortega said that early indications suggested that the downward trend was continuing. Wikipedia’s popularity among readers remains undiminished, however. The site’s founder, Jimmy Wales, started it in 2001 as an experiment and today it is the fifth most popular website in the world. Analysts believe that it receives about 325 million visits per month, a number that continues to rise. The Wikimedia Foundation, the not-for-profit organisation that finances and runs the website, did not respond to questions about the new study. It has previously recognised the fall in the number of volunteers but argued that the encyclopaedia could remain useful. Others were alarmed by the findings. “It’s definitely a worrying trend,” said Andrew Dalby, author of The World and Wikipedia: How We are Editing Reality and a regular editor of the site. “One question is, is there any new stuff to do on the site? When Wikipedia reaches 3 million articles, how many new articles can there be?” Mr Dalby explained that contributors were becoming disenchanted with the process of adding to the site, which he said was increasingly difficult. “There is an increase of bureaucracy and rules,” he said. “Wikipedia grew because of the lack of rules. That has been forgotten. The rules are regarded as irritating and useless by many contributors.” Wikipedia has been embarrassed by a number of cases in which the site was used to spread incorrect information, such as when the US Senator Edward Kennedy was declared dead prematurely. New rules were introduced to help stop these errors, but some writers claimed that they were being censored. Last week the page dedicated to the French footballer Thierry Henry was locked after his handball during the World Cup play-off match with Ireland. Incensed fans left obscenities on the site, as well as a flood of criticism. Other rules have been introduced to reduce infighting and clashes between writers. “There’s the frustration
Re: [CGUYS] ATT keeps whining, Apple attacks
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I know plenty of smokers who didn't get lung cancer, doesn't mean smoking doesn't cause it. Yep, My point was that smoker's smoke may have caused lung cancer in people who never smoked. Apparently the tar build up in a smokers machine makes it difficult to repair. They probably need to send it off to a facility with a laboratory hood and really good gloves for the technicians to work on these systems. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:43 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah...we all know hundreds of people who have died of second hand smoke...oh wait, that's right there are none. Blah. Snobby machines for snobby people fixed by snobs working for snobs. Apparently these users didn't read the snob clause when they bought their macs. There are enough cases of lung cancer among non-smokers who never smoked so I would consider some of them possible victims of second hand smoke. Can't prove it either way. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ATT keeps whining, Apple attacks
I had a machine that was located in a smokers home. (husband and wife) and it was always a gooey mess when I went to work on it. Required a lot of cleaning to get stuff done. I can see charging an upcharge but not to even work on it, is a little bit far fetched. Stewart At 10:18 AM 11/25/2009, you wrote: Yep, My point was that smoker's smoke may have caused lung cancer in people who never smoked. Apparently the tar build up in a smokers machine makes it difficult to repair. They probably need to send it off to a facility with a laboratory hood and really good gloves for the technicians to work on these systems. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia
The recent news of the changing of climate data to fit what researches want instead of fact is in some ways similar That is what Fox and the rest of the denier community wants you to think, but it is not at all what the emails said. Unfortunately, this isn't the right place to discuss it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ATT keeps whining, Apple attacks
John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I know plenty of smokers who didn't get lung cancer, doesn't mean smoking doesn't cause it. Yep, My point was that smoker's smoke may have caused lung cancer in people who never smoked. Or more likely emphysema. My grandmother never smoked, but my grandfather did and it likely caused emphysema that killed her. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ATT keeps whining, Apple attacks
My aunt, who smoked, favored a corn-cob pipe. The tobacco (which she grew) never hurt her, and the pipe greatly enhanced her image with the students that she taught. Jordan wrote: John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I know plenty of smokers who didn't get lung cancer, doesn't mean smoking doesn't cause it. Yep, My point was that smoker's smoke may have caused lung cancer in people who never smoked. Or more likely emphysema. My grandmother never smoked, but my grandfather did and it likely caused emphysema that killed her. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
I've got two drives I should have been using a mirroring tool to...mirror. But due to laziness and thinking it would be easy to not, I had not. So now I am checking for missing files between the two. Drive 1 has folder A with 13 files in the folder. If I get properties on this folder, it says there are 18 files in the folder. I have show hidden files checked, I triple checked that value to be sure. So I am showing 5 ghost files. When I get properties on the files contained in the two drives, I've got a 500 file difference with the one showing at least 5 ghost files having 500 more files. I am perplexed to be sure. I've run error check..any ideas? win 7 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
