[CGUYS] Dump adobe reader

2010-01-17 Thread D Freye
 I want to dump adobe reader and replace it with a program that
 NEVER calls home or even asks unless I suggest it. Any ideas?
Be at Peace.


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Re: [CGUYS] Dump adobe reader

2010-01-17 Thread mike
foxit

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 I want to dump adobe reader and replace it with a program that
 NEVER calls home or even asks unless I suggest it. Any ideas?
 Be at Peace.


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Re: [CGUYS] Dump adobe reader

2010-01-17 Thread Robert Carroll

D Freye wrote:

 I want to dump adobe reader and replace it with a program that
 NEVER calls home or even asks unless I suggest it. Any ideas?
Be at Peace.
  

I use Foxit Reader.

PDF documents with many pages are better view by Adobe, however.


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Re: [CGUYS] Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican

2010-01-17 Thread mike
I'm not sure the retirees are the ones buying into this...'science'.  To be
honest, I don't know who would be the constituents for this...seems to be
the same watermelons that are the on the fringe of the environmental
movement.

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote:



   Real or not, Republicans in Florida are right on top of this growing
 phenomenon.  If it'll garner a vote from the golf cart riding retirees
 in the state, then why not?

 FLORIDA GOVERNOR PROCLAIMS MAY 2009 AS ELECTROMAGNETIC SENSITIVITY
 (EMS) AWARENESS MONTH

 http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/100437


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Re: [CGUYS] Free app

2010-01-17 Thread Jeff Miles

Thanks Mike,

	I did it. It took some doing to figure it out on the phone end, but I  
finally got it and now have a couple of cats on my phone



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[CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-17 Thread tjp
This may be a little bit ahead of its time and thus may make some  
people upset.
The author argues that these products and services will soon go the  
way of the dodo...


http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/ConsumerActionGuide/10-things-not-to-buy-in-2010.aspx

DVDs  CDs
Home telephone service
External hard drives
Smart-phone also-rans
Compact digital cameras
Newspaper  magazine subscriptions
New college textbooks
Gas-guzzling autos
Energy-inefficient homes and appliances


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Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I read this article some time ago and think he is off the mark.

I was thinking about this the other day.

CD's yes, but not DVD's.  They are getting there, but I am not ready 
to upgrade my whole library of DVD's yet.  It took me 20 years to 
accumulate the VHS library and it has been just 10 years, plus I have 
not seen any evidence that Blue Ray is worth the hype.


If he had said CRT monitors and Tube TV's I would have agreed.  (I 
still have a couple of CRT's and a few tube TV's was just in a parts 
dept for a car dealership and they still used CRT's.)


External hard drives?  Who is he kidding?  Until SSD's come down in 
price not going to happen.


Home telephone service is also off the mark.  I think this guy spends 
way too much time on the coast.  Get into the heartland and it does 
not make sense to not have a landline phone.  In most disasters there 
are only two things that keep working.  Telephone and Cell phone.  My 
electric and cable go out far more frequently than my landline.


Not everyone is ready for smartphone.  My wife does not want one at 
all.  My mother does not want one.  So what would they get?  Again 
not enough outside focus to see the big picture.  (And if he is 
defining smartphone=Iphone, get real.)


Compact Digital cameras who is he kidding?  These are one of the 
biggest selling items around.  Not many want or need DSLR's.


I have to almost agree on magazine and newspaper subscriptions.  We 
just cut back on our newspaper subscription and do not subscribe to 
many magazine subscriptions.  I buy off the shelf when I want them.


New college textbooks are one of the biggest rip offs around.  We buy 
used when possible.  Textbooks are being changed out way too 
frequently for monetary reasons and not content reasons.  High 
markup, high profit item.  But I do not think electronic is the 
answer either.  (real question is why do professors require you to 
buy them when they infrequently use them)


Gas Guzzling autos.  Well for those who can afford them they will 
always exist.  I live in a small town, 12K and just today I saw 
someone driving a Roll's.  My brother bought a 08 Dodge Challenger 
SRT Hemi as his mid life crisis vehicle.  He does not care about the 
mileage, it is his baby.  (Single guy)


Energy in-efficient homes and appliances.  Most appliances sold today 
are much better energy wise than they have been.  However the real 
key is cost effectiveness.  Most lower income folks cannot go out 
upgrading, so it is a trickle down effect that will help this.  As 
those who can afford the more expensive the lesser income will be 
able to get the new more efficient hand me down stuff.  (I am one of 
those lesser income folks.)


So again my whole comment on this guy is get out of your comfortable 
ensconced dwelling and get out into the real world. You might change 
your assessment a little.


Stewart

At 06:56 PM 1/17/2010, you wrote:

This may be a little bit ahead of its time and thus may make some
people upset.
The author argues that these products and services will soon go the
way of the dodo...

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/ConsumerActionGuide/10-things-not-to-buy-in-2010.aspx

DVDs  CDs
Home telephone service
External hard drives
Smart-phone also-rans
Compact digital cameras
Newspaper  magazine subscriptions
New college textbooks
Gas-guzzling autos
Energy-inefficient homes and appliances



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Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-17 Thread mike
-DVD's...Redbox and Netflix are hurting Blockbuster as much as anything
else, and they both deal heavily on the actual DVD, not just content.
-CD's...could be gone.
-External Hard Drives..well if capacity keeps going up you might only need
that 400tb HD that is *in* the computer.
-Newspapers/Magazines subscriptions...an odd way to put it, these industries
hope you will move your subscription to a kindle or like device.  He
probably meant actual paper delivered to your  door...course that's not
what he said.
-New College Textbooks...um..yeah we've been doing this for *years*
already...good prediction.
-Smart-phone also rans...andoid has only been out a little over a year, and
phones have just started coming out the last few months, I'm not sure I'd
write android off basing on a few months of sales.  The author also only
notes how well/bad the mytouch has sold on tmobile, he ignores the rest of
the market and the fact that android is coming to every carrier out there.
Also while android doesn't have 100k in apps, 20k isn't bad for again, only
a little over a year on the market.
-Compact digital cams..just because DSLR is getting cheaper doesn't mean
these little point and shoots are going anywhere.


On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 This may be a little bit ahead of its time and thus may make some people
 upset.
 The author argues that these products and services will soon go the way of
 the dodo...


 http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/ConsumerActionGuide/10-things-not-to-buy-in-2010.aspx

 DVDs  CDs
 Home telephone service
 External hard drives
 Smart-phone also-rans
 Compact digital cameras
 Newspaper  magazine subscriptions
 New college textbooks
 Gas-guzzling autos
 Energy-inefficient homes and appliances


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Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-17 Thread Fred Holmes
At 07:56 PM 1/17/2010, tjp wrote:
Newspaper  magazine subscriptions

Well since PC Magazine went to web only, I receive the e-mails but never read 
them.  Just a subject line isn't enough to tickle my interest.

PC World still comes as a magazine and I read it regularly -- in places where I 
wouldn't want to be bothered carrying an electronic device along.  If the 
magazine gets lost, left behind, . . . I've lost little.  Not so with a kindle. 
 If there is an article I want to investigate further at a later time, I can 
turn down a page corner or rip out the page.  What does a kindle do?  I 
wouldn't want to carry something as expensive as an iPhone or Blackberry 
around.  I'd just lose it.  Mislay it anyway.  If I mislay a magazine, I pick 
up a different one and read it.

Fred Holmes 


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Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-17 Thread Constance Warner
Sounds like the latest stuff from very young computer fan-boys.  Also  
sounds like replacing better products with worse.


Examples:
CD's: much better sound quality than MP3 files.  And they won't go  
away if your hard drive crashes or you lose your iPod.  I know  
someone who auditions groups for a classical music series: she  
insists on CD's from the artists who are trying to get the jobs.  An  
MP3 player just won't tell her enough about the groups, and CD's are  
professional standard  in cases like these.  If you're willing to  
settle for less quality in your music, by all means don't buy CD's.


DVD's: there when you want them.  No subscription fees, no waiting,  
and no cable charges.  Did anybody point out to this bozo that it's a  
lot cheaper to buy the three or four movies from this year's crop  
that you really want to see--from the discount rack at the checkout  
at Target--than it is to subscribe to Netflix or--much worse--sign up  
for cable (which a lot of us can't afford)?


Home telephone service: given the quality (or rather lack of it) of a  
lot of current cellphone service, this one doesn't even rate a  
derisive comment.


External hard drives: trust my manuscripts to the Cloud?  Please,  
give me a break.  The Cloud is, at best, an insecure second-line backup.


Compact digital cameras: here's a news flash: not everyone can afford  
the latest multi-megapixel digital SLR with a lens as long as your  
forearm.  A moderately-priced point-and-shoot will let you do serious  
photography on a budget.  And if you only want snapshots of your  
vacation to email to your homeys, a compact digital camera will do  
the job just as well as a large, expensive SLR.
As someone who grew up in a family with a couple of dozen cameras  
around the house at all times--my dad was a professional  
photographer--I can tell you that this guy definitely doesn't know  
what he is talking about.


Magazine and newspaper subscriptions: Did anyone point out the severe  
limitations of the Kindle to this author?  And the people I know who  
publish periodicals online actually make their money by selling print  
anthologies of the material afterwards, because print is easier to  
read and more permanent than online content.  The author also seems  
to be confusing subscriptions with print media purchased under any  
circumstances, e.g. at the newsstand or bookstore.


It's possible that these technologies may indeed go away in the near  
future, but that's no reason not to buy them while we can.


--Constance Warner
On Jan 17, 2010, at 7:56 PM, tjp wrote:

This may be a little bit ahead of its time and thus may make some  
people upset.
The author argues that these products and services will soon go the  
way of the dodo...


http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/ 
ConsumerActionGuide/10-things-not-to-buy-in-2010.aspx


DVDs  CDs
Home telephone service
External hard drives
Smart-phone also-rans
Compact digital cameras
Newspaper  magazine subscriptions
New college textbooks
Gas-guzzling autos
Energy-inefficient homes and appliances


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Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-17 Thread mike
Not all players are alike...even the ipod will play lossless files.  Other
players on the market also have better sound than the ipod, and play FLAC or
other lossless formats.  It's all digital so it doesn't really make any
difference.  The point is more likely she's putting those cd's in a good
quality sound system, the fact the digitized music is on a piece of plastic
or on a hard drive or other data drive makes no difference in the sound.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote:

 Sounds like the latest stuff from very young computer fan-boys.  Also
 sounds like replacing better products with worse.

 Examples:
 CD's: much better sound quality than MP3 files.  And they won't go away if
 your hard drive crashes or you lose your iPod.  I know someone who auditions
 groups for a classical music series: she insists on CD's from the artists
 who are trying to get the jobs.  An MP3 player just won't tell her enough
 about the groups, and CD's are professional standard  in cases like these.
  If you're willing to settle for less quality in your music, by all means
 don't buy CD's.




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