Re: [CGUYS] Feeling Suicidal?

2010-05-11 Thread tjpa

On May 11, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Art Clemons wrote:

I can't help suspecting though that this app won't be used much or
downloaded a lot even with the potentially suicidal.


Maybe you are not its target audience.


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Re: [CGUYS] NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share

2010-05-11 Thread tjpa

On May 11, 2010, at 1:29 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

I am no phone phreak at all, but I'd have to ask what is wrong about
$19.99?  At 1/10th of the cost of an iPhone, it would be a pretty good
value even if an iPhone is ten times better.


Precisely. They have to hit up AT&T for a much bigger subsidy.


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Re: [CGUYS] Feeling Suicidal?

2010-05-11 Thread Art Clemons
On 05/11/2010 03:03 PM, tjpa wrote:
> For users in distress and at risk of suicide, mym3 provides a direct,
> one-button link to Mental Health America’s National Suicide Hotline..."


I was sorely tempted to make a sarcastic remark about the bill for the
Iphone being the cause.

I can't help suspecting though that this app won't be used much or
downloaded a lot even with the potentially suicidal.  Of course if it
saves one life..


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[CGUYS] Feeling Suicidal?

2010-05-11 Thread tjpa

There's an app for that...

"M-3 Information, LLC entered the smart phone application environment  
by offering the M-3 Checklist, a scientifically validated screen for  
depression and anxiety disorders, at the iTunes store... For users in  
distress and at risk of suicide, mym3 provides a direct, one-button  
link to Mental Health America’s National Suicide Hotline..."


http://publishersnewswire.com/2010/05/07/PNW1854_100858.php


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Re: [CGUYS] NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share

2010-05-11 Thread David K Watson
> Heaven forbid they compete on even ground...


Beware what you wish for, they _aren't_ competing on even ground.   
These sales figures are US only, Apple is still well ahead worldwide, 
and their sales grew in a quarter where they usually stay flat.  Also, 
those figures include all Android OS phones and only about 1/3 of 
those have the current Android 2.x OS, the large majority are 
divided among the older Android versions.  

Without a common hardware and software platform to work on, 
Android app developers must be pulling their hair out.  This is surely 
a big reason that Google is making a big push for Flash on Android, 
to get flash web apps on the platform so that native app development 
won't be as essential as it is right now.  

By the way, with all the fuss over Flash and Apple, the big fact that 
is overlooked is that Android does not yet have Flash either.  In fact, 
no mobile smart phone has Flash.  At best some smart phones may 
have the execrable Flash Lite, but true Flash is yet to come to mobile.  

Going back to those sales figures, there really should be some 
discussion as to what the appropriate basis for comparison is.  For 
some purposes, you could argue that instead of looking at just 
iPhones vs. all versions of Android phones, you should be looking at 
iPhones vs. Android OS 2.x touchscreen phones, or all iPhone OS 
devices (iPhone + iPod Touch + iPad) vs.  Android, so that you are 
comparing one platform with a common OS, interface and app base 
with another.  

On May 11, 2010, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote:

> From:mike 
> Subject: NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share
> 
> NPD reported Android hit 28% over Apple's 21% share for smartphone.  Could
> this be why Apple is screwing with their developers?  Heaven forbid they
> compete on even ground...
> 


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That is fine but don't tell me what I want.  I know what I need!!!

Plus Apple has already marginalized me by not going to the carrier I 
need in this area.


They have made some cagy business moves but that also means some of 
us just wont bite.


Stewart


At 09:24 AM 5/11/2010, you wrote:

On May 10, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

Actually I have looked at it and I want a phone with a physical
keypad!


I keep reading reports of people who insisted they needed a physical
keyboard, discovering that a virtual keyboard works fine. I have also
read that the Apple implementation works far better than Android's.


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Re: [CGUYS] NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share

2010-05-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:51 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> Here is why...
> Amazon.com: Motorola DROID A855 Android Phone (Verizon Wireless)
> http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-A855-Android-Verizon-Wireless/dp/B002UUTCKC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1273519124&sr=8-4
> $19.99

  I am no phone phreak at all, but I'd have to ask what is wrong about
$19.99?  At 1/10th of the cost of an iPhone, it would be a pretty good
value even if an iPhone is ten times better.  Looks to me as though
Apple may need to begin reducing their prices if they want to keep
sales up.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-11 Thread tjpa
"The QWERTY design is based on a layout designed by Christopher Latham  
Sholes in 1874 for the Sholes and Glidden typewriter ..."


Dang if it was good enough in 1874 it should be good enough today. I  
don't know why anyone would want to innovate.


Personally I like this one...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Writing_ball_keyboard_3.jpg

I'm presently waiting for my virtual keyboard to be delivered. I will  
let you know soon enough.


On May 11, 2010, at 11:07 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

So, if you would prefer a virtual keyboard over a real one in such a
configuration, be my guest, but either way, the end result will be
just about what we all do now and have gotten used to because it
works.  Why fix it if it ain't broke unless one just wants to spend
money and time and effort on change for the pure sake of change?



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Re: [CGUYS] NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share

2010-05-11 Thread tjpa

Here is why...
Amazon.com: Motorola DROID A855 Android Phone (Verizon Wireless)
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-A855-Android-Verizon-Wireless/dp/B002UUTCKC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1273519124&sr=8-4
$19.99


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:24 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> I keep reading reports of people who insisted they needed a physical
> keyboard, discovering that a virtual keyboard works fine.

  I keep reading reports claiming that folks prefer real keyboards
over virtual ones, and that a good real keyboard results in far fewer
typos and is more efficient speed wise.  Sure, for portability and for
short notes a virtual keyboard can suffice, but is still a substitute
for the real thing.

  There are many devotees of the concept that any type of device that
has been in use for over ten years should be trash-canned because even
if it isn't really obsolete, it ought to be.

  Ever try using a virtual keyboard or a touch screen device in the
vertical position for an extended period of time?  Positioned
horizontally, a touch screen keyboard will work better and will not
result in the same arm fatigue pain, but having to look downward all
the time to view your screen is a real neck killer for sure.

  So, what would the solution be for heavy use?  Have a vertical
display screen so you can see what is going on without having to lean
over or tilt your head, but to have a keyboard, virtual or real,
positioned horizontally just like we all use them now.  So, if you
would prefer a virtual keyboard over a real one in such a
configuration, be my guest, but either way, the end result will be
just about what we all do now and have gotten used to because it
works.  Why fix it if it ain't broke unless one just wants to spend
money and time and effort on change for the pure sake of change?

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-11 Thread tjpa

On May 10, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Mike Henderson wrote:

The nexus was cutting edge for about ten minutes


It is indeed a wonderful time to be a consumer of app phones. With  
change being so rapid I expect that 10-minute old phones will be  
selling a very good prices. Panicky vendors want to unload by selling  
us two for the price of one.



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-11 Thread tjpa

On May 10, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Actually I have looked at it and I want a phone with a physical  
keypad!


I keep reading reports of people who insisted they needed a physical  
keyboard, discovering that a virtual keyboard works fine. I have also  
read that the Apple implementation works far better than Android's.



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