Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

2008-03-20 Thread Charles Ballinger
The bad grammar points I agree with.  The Gallery page has the  
artist's phone number. Ask them to call you.  I doubt they will.   
Worst case, take the offered cashiers check.


Charles


On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote:
My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale.  He  
received this email Monday.  We're trying to ascertain whether this  
is a real person,  if the offer is legit.  There are several  
aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa,  
asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs).  He's  
thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather  
than the artwork itself.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.


david

[Begin email]
Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse
From: Sarah Baptiste [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good day to you out there.

I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet  
search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from  
you namely...


Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg

Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you  
going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks  
hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to  
take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping  
firm that will be shipping other house decoratives.


We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon  
as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you  
with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be  
easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to  
procced for the payment of the creative artworks.


I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day.

Best regards,
Sarah Baptiste
__
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Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Re: [CGUYS] Web Politicking

2008-03-10 Thread Charles Ballinger

Same with my OSX firefox 2.0.0.11.  I can't wait to hear an explanation.

Chaels


On Mar 10, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Richard P. wrote:

If I let Firefox search for the right address by typing in  
whatsmyip.org and pressing enter, it comes up with the white screen  
and ip address as described below. If I type in the complete  
address: http://whatsmyip.org/ , or type in whatsmyip and Alt- 
Enter, it comes up with the correct home page. It is an unexpected  
result, to say the least but I don't know why. Perhaps it magnifies  
how one needs to be even more careful about what they plug into the  
address bar. This is the first time I've seen this.


Richard P.





FWIW, I don't see anything but my IP at that url.


Very interesting.

When I access whatismyip.org using FireFox (Win) I get a white  
page with

just my IP listed. Show source shows no HTML, just the IP number.

When I access whatismyip.org using FireFox (Mac) I get a colorful  
page

with my IP in big type, a What's New blog, a sidebar full of other
services, and another sidebar full of Google ads.

Is this Mac politicking?


And Firefox on Linux gets the same thing you list for Firefox/Win.




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Re: [CGUYS] is anyone using jott.com

2008-03-09 Thread Charles Ballinger
There are other voice recognition systems using phones.. to  
transcribe medical record entries for example.  I couldn't find  
anything on the jott site about how long messages can be.


What I don't understand is how voice recognition can work so well  
over a phone while a quality mic and few GHz of computing power in a  
quiet office don't even come close.


That said, has anyone had good experience with current OSX VR  
technology?


Charles

 - who lives with a Palm TX that I seldom use, an alphanumeric  
pager, and a cell phone that I use with one hand, even in my  
hydrocarbon-powered Suburban.





On Mar 9, 2008, at 6:04 PM, GK wrote:


http://jott.com

or is there something else out there doing this same thing?

/gayley (who does not live with a handheld or cell phone, other  
than actually in the car, handsfree, btw)

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Mother Geek Productions dba Business Her Way
businessherway.net


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Re: [CGUYS] Highlighting PDFs

2008-02-16 Thread Charles Ballinger

Micheal,

This might not help you with given you're on XP. I use an OSX app  
called Skim to manage and annotate sources for my papers.  Its a  
fantastic tool.  Might even make it worth going to a Mac.


Charles

http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/

Skim is a PDF reader and note-taker for OS X. It is designed to  
help you read and annotate scientific papers in PDF, but is also  
great for viewing any PDF file.


Stop printing and start skimming.

Explore the links to the right to investigate Skim and consider  
helping out with the project.

Features:

* Viewing PDFs
* Adding and editing notes
* Highlighting important text
* Making snapshots for easy reference
* Navigation using table of contents or thumbnails
* View all your notes and highlights
* Convenient reading in full screen
* Giving powerful presentations
* Handy preview of internal links
* Focus using a reading bar
* Magnification tool
* Extensive AppleScript support
* Bookmarks
* Support for Apple Remote Control
* Interaction with LaTeX and PDFSync
* Spotlight support
* Highly customizable
* And much more...






On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Michael S. Altus wrote:

I might be ordering PDF files of medical journal articles and might  
have to
highlight them to support statements in text of an article that I  
am working

on. I have a Windows XP computer.





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Re: [CGUYS] How stable is Excel?

2008-02-06 Thread Charles Ballinger
The Public Risk Management Association wants to use Excel as a  
database?  Makes you want to say, Hmmm...


g

cb


On Feb 6, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Constance Warner wrote:



And does anyone else have any talking points on why it's a bad idea to
replace a perfectly reliable, crash-proof database with an Excel
spreadsheet?





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Re: [CGUYS] IP camera osx

2007-11-20 Thread Charles Ballinger

Yes.. but of course not until after I posted my question!

I've been so used to not finding anything that I'd given up.  I found  
the non-ActiveX (is that what used to be called OLE?) cameras that  
Tom mentioned in his reply.  I even found several selling at a site  
called macmall.com.  It looks like the remaining hinderance is me  
shedding a few hundred dollars.




On Nov 20, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Jordan wrote:

I just did a Google search of wireless camera Mac, without the  
quotes, and saw some promising hits. Did you try that?


Charles Ballinger wrote:
I'm looking for a wireless IP camera that can be config'd and  
managed by OSX v1.4.11 (I think I'm following Tom and holding off  
a bit on 10.5).  I've found cameras in the past that were supposed  
to run under OSX but needed first to be set up under Windows.  As  
a result, I've never gotten one going.


Does anyone know of a mfgr or vendor I might check with a higher  
probability of success?





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[CGUYS] IP camera osx

2007-11-19 Thread Charles Ballinger
I'm looking for a wireless IP camera that can be config'd and managed  
by OSX v1.4.11 (I think I'm following Tom and holding off a bit on  
10.5).  I've found cameras in the past that were supposed to run  
under OSX but needed first to be set up under Windows.  As a result,  
I've never gotten one going.


Does anyone know of a mfgr or vendor I might check with a higher  
probability of success?


Charles



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Re: [CGUYS] G5 grace period question

2007-11-16 Thread Charles Ballinger
Thanks for confirming our experience Tom.  We thought we couldn't be  
happier with our computer experience before.. now we're closer to  
*knowing* we couldn't be happier with our computers.  Might even end  
up putting onto the car, one of the many white Apple stickers we have  
laying around here.


I didn't buy a lottery ticket btw.. figuring we pay enough taxes.

Charles



On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:


Our G5 repair has resolved.  We called Apple
Should I buy a lottery ticket tomorrow or what?


This is not an unusual story. Apple's excellent customer service will
often bend over backwards to treat a customer right. So you should not
generalize. You won't win the lottery and there are still PC  
vendors out

there who will screw you at the slightest opportunity.


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[CGUYS] G5 grace period question

2007-11-11 Thread Charles Ballinger
Our 1.6GHz G5 iMac died this morning.  Bad logic board it seems.  The  
pinch is our 3y AppleCare expired two weeks ago.


Does anyone have an experience with Apple and grace periods or wiggle  
room?


Charles



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Re: [CGUYS] Business Cards [Was: Printing pains and computer...

2007-10-07 Thread Charles Ballinger
I was in a Staples recently and noticed their sample book of cards.   
Seems they keep one, assuming the customer says ok, to show their  
work.  I'm not a typesetting sort.. The cards were glossy without  
raised type (they had a more concise term for that).  They can put a  
color logo and any text you want, however you want it.  They didn't  
require massive numbers of cards to print.  They print in the store  
and it looked like a while you shop or hang out and wait  
timeframe.  I forget the price details, but thought it sounded cheap  
for a box of basic cards.


cb


On Oct 7, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:

And, just when you think you've figured out a solution for how to  
get some
business cards together on very short notice (without spending  
much moola)
by learning how to print them yourself, of course the printer or  
something
or many things involved decide not to cooperate, and even play a  
bad joke,

by making it almost appear at one point that its actually working.


I have read that Staples and Office Depot will now print up a batch of
business cards on the spot for low cost. Has anyone tried this?


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Re: [CGUYS] iMac monitors

2007-10-02 Thread Charles Ballinger
My 15 MBP has the matte screen.  Its not as matte as the older  
white iBook screens, but is nothing like the new glossy.  I'm very  
happy with my choice.  I work with lots of overhead light and the  
reflections on other glossy screens is distracting to me.  The glossy  
is nice and makes for a beautiful display, but I couldn't take the  
reflection.  If that issue is important to you its worth clarifying  
before purchase.  A trip to an Apple store or other retail place, or  
to see a friend's new iMac is what I'd do.


cb






On Oct 2, 2007, at 10:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just helped a friend pick out a portable Mac (bought a Macbook  
Pro with a
15 monitor). The Macbook Pro came with a choice of monitors --  
matte screen or
glare screen. My friend chose the matte screen. My guess (my hope!)  
is that
the iMacs also come with a choice of screens. The glare screen  
looks annoying.


Mical Wilmoth Carton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wife just got a 24 iMac.  monitor is superb.  has stupid gloss  
finish, so
if bright lights around, can have reflection problems.  the rest  
of the world

has matt finish.  i think early imacs have matt finish.









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Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call

2007-10-02 Thread Charles Ballinger

From the FTC website http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall

Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be  
assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number  
database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits  
telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You  
may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not  
Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more  
information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell  
Phones and the Do Not Call Registry.


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Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
You took wrong Mark. I'm a veteran and I know the VA system.  Am I to  
guess you're somehow affiliated with the VA and took exception?


I didn't say one couldn't get good care at a VA. I said, given a  
choice I'd prefer a non-gov't run hospital, except depending on  
diagnosis. Lots of people seek out care for testicular cancer at  
Indiana University (Lance Armstrong is a famous one), but they don't  
go there because its IU. They go to IU because thats where they find  
Larry Einhorn.


The points you mentioned below all relate to efficiency. I answered  
Tom's question based on my perception of quality of care. A state-run  
med school affiliated hospital or practice would not be my first  
choice for routine care. Students need practice and learning  
opportunities, but I'm under no obligation to provide it personally.


Its not relevant that any given VA facility, or the VA on whole while  
may or may not be the best run hospital system in the country. That  
the residents managing pt care are supported with barcoded systems,  
EMRs, and an efficiently purchased formulary is also not relevant to  
my care decisions. I don't want a resident front-lining my care  
(especially at the beginning of the year) no matter how efficient the  
system is said to be.


Interestingly, all that most advanced medical software is a current  
topic of discussion in the churning swirl of medical education. A  
growing percentage of students is being found unable to compose a  
patient summary without using the system. Is medical education  
training techs to follow drop-down lists and history forms? Granted,  
care directed using a validated system strictly followed will  
probably reduce malpractice risk. It will also help make appt's  
quicker so more pts can be seen in a day to help make up for lower  
reimbursements. But, the argument goes, is that what we want from a  
physician?  I seem to think more and more we do, at least until we  
get what we're asking for.  I just hope the developers have the  
newest CASE tools and use some of that artificial intelligence and  
fuzzy logic to build the systems.


cb




On Sep 30, 2007, at 10:57 AM, Mark Corrigan wrote:


On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Charles Ballinger wrote:


Any except the gov't hospital.


What government hospital are you talking about?  I take it that you  
are not  a veteran and no nothing about the VA.  The VA is the  
biggest hospital system in the world and provides very good care  
for the less money than any other hospital in the US.  The VA is  
not constrained by the latest medicaid/medicare bill that prevents  
bulk bidding for medicines. As a consequence the VA pays the least  
amount for medicine of any hospital in the US.  The VA is the most  
computerized and has the most advanced medical software of any  
hospital in the world.  The VA was using bar code scanners to scan  
patients and pass meds 10 years ago. This makes it virtually  
impossible to have a medication error.  Doctors do not hand write  
orders at the VA.  All orders have do be entered into a computer.   
Hand written orders are the number one reason for medication  
mistakes .  They kill some where in the neighborhood of 100,000  
people per year in the us. All hospital in this country have  
problems (including the VA), but please don't knock the best run  
hospital system in the country (which happens to be government run)  
to private hospitals. By the way the VA is not Walter Reed which is  
a army hospital for active duty soldiers.  And one of Walter Reed's  
biggest problem's came about because they privatized their  
janitorial staff with a subsidiary of Haliburton.


For profit and nonprofit are equal except if you're a high risk OB/ 
sick mother case and would prefer the mother be saved by  
sacrificing the baby should it come to that. In that case you'd  
want to avoid certain religious affiliated hospitals.


On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:

Given the choice of three hospitals and knowing only that one was  
run by
a government agency, one was run by a for-profit corporation, and  
one was

run by a religious-charitable organization, which would your choose?



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Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
and probably easier for you too since you wouldn't be there pushing  
her and hand-holding..


Maybe you would both have time to get a new hobby. g

cb


On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Mason Miller wrote:


This would all be easier, not for you, but for her, on a Mac.

Mason

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On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote


I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her  
doctor did
not prescribe an important new treatment because keeping up with  
medical
advances was too much trouble? You have a fiduciary  
responsibility to

make the best selection for her, not for you.


If I did not push her into this, she would not do it at all.  I  
foresee a very lot of hand-holding.  Better that than her spending  
$1200 and never using it at all.




Instead of taking upon yourself the responsibility to sort out the
messes why not get a computer that won't have the messes? You  
can then
direct your efforts to the real challenge: teaching her how to  
use the

computer.


I wouldn't know how.  Nor do I want to spend the necessary hours  
on her machine to figure it out.



Considering all of this, I think she'd be safest with a cable  
connection

behind a firewall

Depends on what is more reliable in her area. I think DSL is  
usually more

reliable.


Not in this area.  We're all too far from the phone co to get DSL,  
but we all have cable available.



all desktop icons hidden except for a word processor, My  
Documents, Firefox

and a
stand-alone email icon.

What does she need a word processor for?


Because she likes to write.  She has occasionally written articles  
and submitted them for publication.  She has always written in  
longhand and had someone else type them for her.




What does she need an email
program for?


Because she will understand that better.  I don't want to have her  
launching a whole bunch of stuff at once.  Her grown kids and  
grands are far away, and she will want to receive photos.  I want  
a mail program that will detach the photos and file them, so at  
least I can find them.



Keep it simple. Set her up with Gmail. If she must print out
a letter she can type it in Gmail and print from there. I would  
have the
computer automatically launch FireFox and make the home page  
Gmail. Put
some icons at the bookmarks toolbar for the other things she  
needs. Keep

it simple.


That's what I plan to do.  Manually launch a browser with a blank  
page and teach her to use bookmarks.  And not confuse it with her  
email.


With a very basic understanding of how it really works, she just  
might progress.  By setting up magic in the beginning, she has  
no hope of learning.  I deal with too many people like that all  
the time.


Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
This lady might benefit from a resource like SeniorNet.  She might  
find a peer group. She'll learn things, maybe completely new things  
that will develop new interests for her to pursue.


Who knows.. soon after Sue gets the PC set up the lady may go online,  
order a Mac, pull it out of the box, and be online in 15 minutes and  
doing all those cool things the Mac Guy does in the Switch  
commercials!


Then maybe she'll join a local MUG and start doing presentations in  
Keynote, build a blog on day trips for the 70+ crowd, publish that  
book, and go on Oprah!


This link says it all in a fifteen item list that seems to cover  
Sue's points of concern.


http://www.apple.com/getamac/

cb




On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Sue Cubic wrote:


At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote


I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her  
doctor did
not prescribe an important new treatment because keeping up with  
medical

advances was too much trouble? You have a fiduciary responsibility to
make the best selection for her, not for you.


If I did not push her into this, she would not do it at all.  I  
foresee a very lot of hand-holding.  Better that than her spending  
$1200 and never using it at all.




Instead of taking upon yourself the responsibility to sort out the
messes why not get a computer that won't have the messes? You can  
then
direct your efforts to the real challenge: teaching her how to use  
the

computer.


I wouldn't know how.  Nor do I want to spend the necessary hours on  
her machine to figure it out.



Considering all of this, I think she'd be safest with a cable  
connection

behind a firewall

Depends on what is more reliable in her area. I think DSL is  
usually more

reliable.


Not in this area.  We're all too far from the phone co to get DSL,  
but we all have cable available.



all desktop icons hidden except for a word processor, My  
Documents, Firefox

and a
stand-alone email icon.

What does she need a word processor for?


Because she likes to write.  She has occasionally written articles  
and submitted them for publication.  She has always written in  
longhand and had someone else type them for her.




What does she need an email
program for?


Because she will understand that better.  I don't want to have her  
launching a whole bunch of stuff at once.  Her grown kids and  
grands are far away, and she will want to receive photos.  I want a  
mail program that will detach the photos and file them, so at least  
I can find them.



Keep it simple. Set her up with Gmail. If she must print out
a letter she can type it in Gmail and print from there. I would  
have the
computer automatically launch FireFox and make the home page  
Gmail. Put
some icons at the bookmarks toolbar for the other things she  
needs. Keep

it simple.


That's what I plan to do.  Manually launch a browser with a blank  
page and teach her to use bookmarks.  And not confuse it with her  
email.


With a very basic understanding of how it really works, she just  
might progress.  By setting up magic in the beginning, she has no  
hope of learning.  I deal with too many people like that all the time.


Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-26 Thread Charles Ballinger

Adding to Matthew's comments:

The established trend is to use hospitalists.  Your doc gets some  
feedback, etc on your progress, but your inpatient care is directed  
and managed by the hospital's W-2 employed hospitalist. I'd not call  
a hospitalist a specialist other than as defined contractually.


Another reason your doc may only have privileges at one hospital,  
besides being an employee of that hospital, is that its often  
required that the majority of your admissions (51%?) must go to the  
hospital offering you admissions privileges (remember the hospitalist  
will take over care for your pt upon admission). A large hospital  
system owned by a 'religious-charitable organization does this.. so  
its not a profit/nonprofit split.  We left Kansas some time ago.



On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Matthew Taylor wrote:

Sometimes hospitals also restrict how many doctors they will allow  
privileges as well.  Some very  good family practice doctors have  
no privileges at all, as most anything going on in a hospital  
involves a specialist.



On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

What is sometimes overlooked is that Doctor preference can also be  
an indicator of what are the better hospitals.


If you have a family physician and he only chooses to associate  
with one particular hospital there must be a reason.






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Re: [CGUYS] OT WARNING!!!! - Tom is right

2007-09-26 Thread Charles Ballinger

On Sep 26, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
I think too many list members have switched to OS X. Now they don't  
have
any computer problems to gripe about. The rest of you need to get  
to work
-- install Vista or some other harebrained piece of software so we  
can 
ponder the consequences.



Tom is correct by my experience.

I was deep into developing apps on OS/2 for years. Unix before that.  
When IBM quieted OS/2 a friend suggested I follow the world and  
install NT4. I did and computer work immediately ceased being a focus  
in my life. Email was about it for a long time.


Sometime in mid 2000, with much angst, I bought my first Mac.. the  
redesigned white dual-USB iBook, a 500 MHz G3 that is still going  
strong. I bought it for the new OSX knowing it had *nix in there  
somewhere. I'd long ago lost most of my *nix skills but was looking  
forward to having a 'real' OS again. Also knowing several mac users  
who always seemed quite content helped me take the leap even though I  
was warned by several Windows people that I'd never be able to  
exchange a file with them again and was paying more only to be  
constantly plagued by pox.


Moving ahead seven years... I'm working from our household's third  
Mac, a MacBook Pro, and I haven't looked back nor missed a thing  
(except for a nifty grocery list app I liked back when: www.tali.com/ 
slm/)


Interesting things have also happened while drinking Apple's KoolAid.  
When I sit down and open my computer my focus is on my work. To me,  
my computer 'disappears'. I don't know if this is a unique  
experience, but I remember that futzing with computer things was a  
big part of my work. Not that it wasn't enjoyable at the time, but  
now I enjoy futz directly with my work. Put another way, my work gets  
most of the mind-share now. The biggest bonus is that I much prefer  
what I do now over the computer focused stuff I did before.


Other things came up when my computer, or the OS etc, left the  
forefront.  This isn't all Mac exclusive or dependent I think. But  
for me, it did. And I'm glad.


... back to 'work'.

Charles



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Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-26 Thread Charles Ballinger
Teaching hospitals are fine.. especially if you're stuck with some  
'zebra' of a problem.  Although every July and August, given a  
choice, I'd lean toward the non-teaching, non-govt places.





On Sep 26, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Robert wrote:


Tom Piwowar wrote:
Given the choice of three hospitals and knowing only that one was  
run by a government agency, one was run by a for-profit  
corporation, and one was run by a religious-charitable  
organization, which would your choose?




Depends on the government agency.  If it is a hospital run by the  
Federal Emergency Management Agency or the Dept. of Homeland  
Security, I would choose either a religious or a for-profit  
hospital.  If it is a teaching hospital run by a state university,  
I would choose the government agency.



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Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-23 Thread Charles Ballinger
What I can't get past is that we, or society is gov't. The federal  
gov't was built only very specific powers.  What it wasn't given  
remained with the states.. more specifically the people.  It's still  
up to us. So again, what I don't understand is why we seem to want  
out of our obligations (defined as societal/moral/ etc). Why are we  
always looking to the state beyond its mandate?


We have a very capable, and flexible nonprofit sector constantly  
experimenting with these issues and more.  Gov't loves the NPS as it  
provides a reliable proving ground.  As gov't crowds out the NPS in  
more arenas, while our civil society will never go away, I worry it  
will become smaller or less vibrant similar to those in the rest of  
the world.


cb



On Sep 23, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Randy wrote:

I believe you are correct; hence the logical (and moral)  
inconsistency of those (mostly liberals and Democrats) who  
simultaneously demand that WalMart and maybe other employers  
provide more health coverage while also seeking universal health  
care, usually through the federal government.  Meanwhile, somewhat  
ironically, Republican Governors in California and Massachusetts  
have helped move their states towards providing universal health  
care.  The rationale for employer-based health coverage no longer  
exists, as the circumstances which gave rise to this many decades  
ago have changed dramatically.


If people believe there is an ethical obligation to provide health  
care coverage for all who want and need it (as I do; at least for  
legal citizens) than this obligation should fall naturally on  
society, and therefore on society's main instrument of exercising  
its explicit obligations - government; not on employers.  That is,  
we should assume this obligation and the costs of doing so, not,  
as we are wont to do, pass it off onto others, such as large  
employers.


Personally, the model that makes the most sense to me of those I  
heard about is a single payer system; but I would add a lot of  
significant sticks and carrots to incentivize behavior likely to  
lead to good health and thus lower costs, while disincentivizing  
behavior likely to do the opposite.


I would extend this to the radical notion that people who are not  
able, at least at the moment, to provide for their children should  
be discouraged - as an ethical matter - from having children they  
cannot support, and therefore are likely to look to government to  
assume, in effect, this parental responsibility.  Of course, no  
mainstream politician or public figure would ever dare raise the  
ethics of having an unlimited right to reproduce irrespective of  
the consequences of exercising that right, but the issue is both  
logically and morally linked to the argument that society or  
someone has an obligation to provide for health care coverage for  
all persons, particularly those who cannot afford or access it on  
their own.


What does this have to do with computers?  Nothing, directly, but  
since others are discussing this here, this is my 2 cents.


Randall


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I can see an argument that society has an obligation to provide   
health care to all, and that government is the best means to  
achieve  that.  I do not see that the obligation, if extant,  
should in any way  fall on employers.


If one accepted that argument, that an economic entity that  
employs a person obligated to provide healthcare to that person,  
then every mom  and pop enterprise, every individual who ever  
hired a kid to mow the  lawn, would logically and ethically share  
the obligation, for the  size of the employer does not bear upon  
the obligation, only its  practicality.


That is not Scrooge refusing to give to charity, for charity by  
its definition is voluntary, not obligatory.


Matthew

On Sep 20, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Constance Warner wrote:


Does Walmart have some inherent obligation to pay healthcare?  There
Might be a business case to do so...but that does not translate   
into an

obligation.

COMMENT:

`Are there no prisons?'' asked Scrooge.



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[CGUYS] iPod cases

2007-09-10 Thread Charles Ballinger
I have a 30GB iPod and need to buy a case for it. It spends most of  
its time clipped into a bag, slipped into a jacket pocket, or sitting  
on a table.  I charge it via USB (no dock) and also plug a Griffin  
iTalk microphone into it several times a week and would prefer a case  
that allow me to do so without de-casing it.  Any suggestions please?


cb



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[CGUYS] iPod cases

2007-09-10 Thread Charles Ballinger
I have a 30GB iPod and need to buy a case for it. It spends most of  
its time clipped into a bag, slipped into a jacket pocket, or sitting  
on a lectern.  I charge it via USB (no dock) and also plug a Griffin  
iTalk microphone into it several times a week and would prefer a case  
that allow me to do so without de-casing it.  Any suggestions please?


cb



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Re: [CGUYS] Subject: [CGUYS] Buying First MAC

2007-09-10 Thread Charles Ballinger
Ditto what Betty said.  I very recently bought a MacBook Pro and had  
the same experience.  I had also ordered the 4GB RAM kit from datamem  
and installed it in a snap.


She will love the machine. My first Mac was a dual USB iBook some 7  
years ago and we still use that machine everyday at work. At some  
point a few years ago we added a G5 iMac for the kids. We're happy  
campers.


Charles


On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:43 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

I just bought a MacBook; took it out of the box last night. A Mac  
[not MAC] has a setup program that runs when you first turn it on  
after taking it out of the box--my MacBook was fully charged w/3-4  
hrs of power--just plug in the iMac. I set the location; it  
automatically set the time. I have an iTunes account. I typed my  
login and password, and the program filled out my name, address,  
and other info for me. When I finished the basic setup, including  
creating two accounts [one for me and one for testing] and got to  
the Finder desktop, I launched Safari. The Mac had already found  
our wifi network by itself, and I was on the Internet to download  
Firefox and Thunderbird, plus a few other utilities like StuffIt,  
FinderPop, and Yasu.


From the time I opened the box to getting on the Internet to read  
my email and listen to a web stream, it was less than 10 minutes.  
My husband took a week to get his Compaq online, and he still can't  
get it to play web streams with any sound!


Your wife will love her Mac. It's so easy to set up and use.




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