Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
   Once again I have to point out government programs aren't created
and
 meant to make a profit.

Ya think?  

How about if they break even?  That would be a hoot.


 


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
   Where are you getting this nonsense? What part of option won't
flow
 through your head? I'd recommend using a hammer, but then you'd have
 to use your insurance. That is if you have insurance.
   Option means optional. Wham, wham, wham. Bang your head against the
 wall a few more times and it might sink in.


Yep.  Should have started punching myself in the head.  The end result is
the same.

Go be an ignorant ass on someone else's time.  Buh-bye.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
 IT IS NEITHER!
 
 It is called universal or one payer healthcare.
 
 Nothing socialistic about it.

Then that word does not mean what you think it means.

I'm out of this discussion at this point.  It has devolved into the usual
partisan nonsense.

If leftists have any sense, they'll read and soak in the Paglia piece.  I'm
not holding breath.  She's probably being purged from the community as we
speak for her disloyalty and temerity.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
  Sounds like paradise.  Why aren't you living there?
 
   I was just waiting for the old love it or leave it bullshit to
 start.  Why can't an intelligent and respectful conversation take
 place without descending into the pit of old worn out saws such as
 that?

Really?  You saw love or leave it in there?  I asked you a simple question,
to which you read a great deal into that wasn't there.  If it's that great,
why aren't you living there?  Could there be other reasons you aren't?

   Why don't you go on the internet, or seek the information anywhere
 you choose to, to discover how abysmal the overall health care in the
 United States really is, especially when viewed in light of our
 extreme financial wealth?

I have, many times.  Yes, we spend more on health care.  We also spend more
on many other things as well things, compared to countries such as France
and Germany.

   Does our government lie and distort the truth?  Does our current
 administration lie and distort the truth?  Did our most recent
 previous administration lie and distort the truth, or is such the sole
 provence of Cuba or any other nation that is not our own?  Please stop
 this silliness.

Where did I suggest that our own govt doesn’t lie?  Everyone is doing so
that makes it OK? 

I'm being silly?  Please.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 As one with family from Cuba and some friends remaining, I can assure
 you that Jeff W. has no idea about Cuba, considering his comments. It's
 their health care insurance system and outcomes that are better than
 ours, not the high tech gadgets and expensive doctors. The Cuban
 government, thanks to US intervention and unnecessary embargos, is
 oppressive, and the people are suffering from that. Government
 oppression has not affected the affordability and quality of outcomes in
 Cuba, which are more favorable than in the US, with insurance and care
 universally available, unlike here.

I was wondering when you would get around to apologizing for tyrants.

The Cuban govt is oppressive because it chooses to be and can be.  The embargo 
is stupid and should have been lifted long ago, but many, many other countries 
have managed to oppress their people without any US embargo.

I thought of you and your talking points post when I read Camille Paglia's 
latest column.

…affluent middle-class Democrats now seem to be complacently servile toward 
authority and automatically believe everything party leaders tell them. Why? Is 
it because the new professional class is a glossy product of generically 
institutionalized learning? Independent thought and logical analysis of 
argument are no longer taught. Elite education in the U.S. has become a 
frenetic assembly line of competitive college application to schools where 
ideological brainwashing is so pandemic that it’s invisible. The top schools, 
from the Ivy League on down, promote “critical thinking,” which sounds good but 
is in fact just a style of rote regurgitation of hackneyed approved terms 
(”racism, sexism, homophobia”) when confronted with any social issue. The 
Democratic brain has been marinating so long in those cliches that it’s 
positively pickled…

By a proportion of something like 10-to-1, negative articles by conservatives 
were vastly more detailed, specific and practical about the proposals than were 
supportive articles by Democrats, which often made gestures rather than 
arguments and brimmed with emotion and sneers. There was a glaring inability in 
most Democratic commentary to think ahead and forecast what would or could be 
the actual snarled consequences-- in terms of delays, denial of services, 
errors, miscommunications and gross invasions of privacy -- of a massive 
single-payer overhaul of the healthcare system in a nation as large and 
populous as ours. It was as if Democrats live in a utopian dream world, 
divorced from the daily demands and realities of organization and management. 

Read more.  http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/09/09/healthcare/


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 Did you see the Time cover story about cheap food? This is another
 issue that Americans will have to face up to. Corporate farmers are
 polluting our world and serving up food from diseased animals. Our
 food is so strongly laced with antibiotics that they are breeding new
 strains of drug-resistant diseases. The corporate farmers are slowly
 killing us. Have a nice day!

S, Tom, the grownups are talking.  Yes, your non-sequitors are very
nice.  Uh-huh, I know, but that has nothing to do with what we're talking
about.  Run along now and go play.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 You mean like when we got rid of the laws that required local banking?
 That worked very well. Didn't it?
 
 If you look for banks that did not get caught in the sub-prime fiasco
 you will find that these were banks run by local bankers who knew who
 and what was getting the loan. You will also find that such banks that
 are willing to work with their customers when times get tough and did
 not rush to foreclose.

Actually, you will find the banks that survived were the ones who were more
diversified in their holdings.  The one that went tits up were the old
investment houses that only recently started banking businesses.

 And why does the federal government have Medicaid administered by the
 states? You might find the answer above.

And why is Medicare an actuarial mess and lurching towards insolvency?  

I think you'll find your answer somewhere around reality.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 If you encounter someone who is hungry and you don't feed them you are
 not being nice.
 If you encounter someone who is homeless and you don't shelter them
 you are not being nice.
 If you encounter someone who is bleeding to death and you don't help
 them you are a criminal.
 
 Tell us again that you don't see the difference.

The only thing I'm not seeing here is a point.

D-.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
   She said we, she didn't say you. We aren't including you. So don't
 bother voting next election. It won't be counted. You're not included.
 Oh, we'll still be taking SS out of your paycheck. Probably LI as
 well, but you aren't part of our government. Wow, how freeing that
 must feel. A man of the world.

Oh!  To the heart!  You big meanie.

Yes, it was a very nice DNC talking points post.  Filled with null data and
misty eyed nostalgic naiveté.

We ain't been the guvmint for some time now, but please, don't let me
interrupt the fantasy that any of us still have a role to play other than
thrall. 

I knew I should have just started punching myself in the head, rather than
let myself get dragged into one of these pointless health care arguments.
It always degrades into partisan idiocy.  Life's too short...


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
   This is a terrible comparison. But if you must, the airline travel
 industry has also gone to hell. I don't know how much you fly, but
 it's miserable today as compared to 20 years ago

I fly a couple of times a year.  It's OK.

What I do know is that it's no longer only a tool for the businessman or the
wealthy as it was pre-deregulation.  Everyone can afford to fly now, which
in my book, is a great thing.

It's not the state-protected status quo, which again, that's a good thing.


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Re: [CGUYS] Insurance and National Security [was: Intensive care unit]

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 There's no free market. Never has been. Get over it. Deal with the
 economy as it exists, not in some utopian, fear-inspired fantasy. Good
 health, quality education, a stable economy with manufacturing, and a
 clean environment are as important to our security as diplomacy and our
 military. Who will be healthy and educated well enough to create and run
 our new clean high tech [and other] industries?

I almost saluted the flag as I read this.  **sniff**

Shorter Betty:  Do as you're told by your betters and don't get uppity.  

It's like Paglia used you for a model for her column.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
   Hmmm, coach healthcare and then first class healthcare if I'm
willing
 to pay for it. What a concept.

Sounds like you're describing the UK's DHS or Canada's Medicare to a T.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 Whjy are you afraid of a choice between the private insurers and a government
 program? I said: choice.

Private insurers can't print money or tax their customers when times get tight.

You can't compete with the govt.  Choice with the state is a bug, not a 
feature.

If the issue are persons without insurance, then why are we talking about 
making a program for everyone else too?  As I said, it's a stalking horse for 
single-payer.

If it were only to cover the uninsured, then expanding Medicare coverage would 
be the expedient and practical solution.  It's not even on the table.

For a president who said that he didn't want any part in running an auto 
company, he sure seems all fired up to run an insurance company.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
   I find it funny that when liberals want change its called
socialism
 or  pandering to people with hands out. While when neocons call for
 change it's fanatical renegade John Wynism (I just made that up).

Nah, it's pretty much socialism when the Stupid Party does it too.

   I don't think either are to far apart on what we all want, but we're
 to damn stubborn to say, hey, I agree with that.

Reinforcing the idea that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between
the 2 parties.  If either party had any ideas worth agreeing with, I'd be
all over it.  Still waiting for that.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-07 Thread Jeff Wright
   Ok, and you have a problem with this why?

I think I've already explained this very clearly.  

 Do you really hate the poor that much?

Oh yes.  They're easily overcooked and can get very chewy if you don't watch
them carefully.

   I was mostly talking about the option everyone seems to be against.
I
 know I hate it when I'm given options, don't you?

I just love it when people volunteer me for something!  Don't you?

   As for paying for others health care, I really don't mind. We all
end
 up paying for others sooner or later. 

That's great, such a humanitarian you are.  I'll let you know if I need you
to make any other decisions for me.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-07 Thread Jeff Wright
 Not so.. in the political process you have a vote and your representatives.

In a market process, I have much, much more than that.

I have hundreds of development companies to choose from for a home in my area 
and no less than 8 different grocery stores chains/companies, who all want my 
business.  They all compete with one another on price, quality, value and a 
pleasant shopping experience, to one degree or another.  I can choose to use, 
or not to use, any of them.

My representatives only compete for my vote every 2 years, maximum.  The 
incumbency reelection rate in this country averages around 96%, meaning that 
96% of the incumbents are reelected every time they run.   Even then, I can't 
recall the last time the person I voted for, won.  I'm stuck with the winner 
for better or worse, usually worse.

You call that competition?  Do you honestly think they care what I think?


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Re: [CGUYS] Twitter vulnerable - unless you're using IE8

2009-09-07 Thread Jeff Wright
But, how does it fare under the single payer attack?

Have the other browsers mitigated the bitten finger exploit?

 -Original Message-
 
 I apologize in advance for the computer-related post.
 
 Security researcher Brian Mastenbrook uncovered a cross-site scripting
 vulnerability in Ruby on Rails and quickly had injected Javascript code
 running in Twitter.
 
 One surprise I discovered during the process was that IE8 includes a
Cross
 Site Scripting filter which effectively blocked this attack. I'm very
 impressed with the effort that Microsoft's taken to
 mitigate one of the most common web application security issues. Every
other
 browser vendor needs to add this functionality _yesterday_.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-07 Thread Jeff Wright
 This is one subspecialty that is also elective surgery.  Now say the
 same thing about cardiac stints, hernia surgery etc.

Yes, I understand that.  It's one of the better analogs for demonstrating
that the medical industry can deliver quality care with cost awareness.  Why
wouldn't it work for cardiac stents, hernias, tonsils, etc? 

It wouldn't work very well for time-sensitive/emergency care or for critical
care situations such as cancer treatment, but there is a world of medicine
where price can and should matter.

We can reform health care the smart way, as proposed by Mackey and
illustrated in the article you linked with truly innovative ideas, or the
dumb way, with price controls, massive budget deficits and a very high
probability of rationing with nowhere else to turn.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-07 Thread Jeff Wright
   For what it is worth, Cuba has one of the best, if not the overall
 best health care system in the world.  Check out the world's health
 statistics and see for yourself.  Marcio can speak to this issue I am
 sure.
 
   Cuba is one poor as hell nation, and the Cuban health care system is
 government run, yet is at the top of the A list worldwide.
 Socialist?  Yes.  Works extremely well overall?  Yes.  Far lower child
 death rate than here in the United States?  By far.  All citizens get
 health care?  Absolutely.

Sounds like paradise.  Why aren't you living there?  I'm sure the Cuban
guvmint has no reason to lie to or distort the truth.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-07 Thread Jeff Wright
 We are the government. We shouldn't be afraid, just because some
 corporations want us to fear.  Fear the corporate databases, not the
 government.

Thanks for the larf, Betty.  Good one!


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-07 Thread Jeff Wright
 I'm behind on my email, but one problem is that anymore
 there are few actual insurance companies.  The big ones keep
 buying the smaller ones to limit competition.

Compare a list of airline companies from 1980, shortly after the airlines
were deregulated, and compare that list to today.  I think you'll see a
significant difference in the list, not to mention the cost to the consumer
to fly.

I don't know why people think that insurance companies, when they aren't
being propped up by the states with laws that limit their competition, don't
have to obey the laws of supply and demand.

I have to say, I'm really stumped by this attitude.

 H, it seems that they are good at dropping people who
 actually need to use their services.  See examples of
 recision by the health insurance companies.  If someone
 gets sick and starts costing them money hurting the profit
 potential of the company, the insurance company finds a way
 to ditch the person/company.

See above.  You and the Rev really need to get your heads around the status
quo.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 I appreciate your faith. I guess the most distressing part of the
 whole affair is seeing the wing nuts so ready to sell out their
 country for a sack of gold. They support the ultra-rich insurance
 barons, the M$s, the Comcasts, etc. and give the shiv to their fellow
 citizens.

I'm really disappointed in Obama folding so early in the hand.  There's so
much more he could be doing.

No family should ever go broke putting food on their table. No one should
have to go into bankruptcy to put a roof over their heads.  When is Obama
going to force the food barons and the housing dons to provide cheap and
affordable food and shelter?  I pay more for these every year than I do
health care!

Single payer groceries and 3BR/2BA now!


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 This is standard wing-nut strategy to make government look bad.

Of course.  The guvmint never does anything to look bad.  It's all a vast,
right-wing conspiracy to undermine their natural efficiency.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 DHL is going out of business because it was doing a terrible job. The
 foreign owners seemed unable to put an effective management team in
 place in the USA. Their service was horribly unreliable. Instead of
 working harder at fixing the problem they just decided to give up.
 The German stock holders of the parent company really should give
 their German managers the heave ho. DHL was a huge operation and they
 just pissed it away. Shockingly bad management.

I patiently await for the irony of this situation to dawn on Herr Doctor.


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Re: [CGUYS] Do Typographers Despise M$?

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 The 2010 IKEA catalog, now arriving at doorsteps around the world,
 reveals the company's choice to change all typography to the Microsoft
 font...
 http://idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/

Bingo!  We have a winner.

IKEA spokeswoman Camilla Meiby responds to AP (Aug 31, 2009): 

We're surprised, but I think it's mainly experts who have expressed their
views, people who are interested in fonts. I don't think the broad public is
that interested.

It's like worrying about what the Trekkies will think about the new brand of
toilet paper on all Federation starships in the movies.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 Again very disingenuous.
 
 You can make a choice in housing very simply.  You either find a
 house within your income bracket or you move.
 
 Cant afford Steak, buy chicken and ground beef.
 
 Been there done that.

You miss my point, Rev.  I expect that of Tom, but you?

We are being told that health care is a right.  I disagree.  Health care
is paramount, no doubt, but it is no more a right than food or a place to
live.

I have a right to life, if nothing else, but I don't have a right to demand
that someone provide me with food to eat.  I have a right to be sheltered
from the elements, but I don't have the right to demand that I be provided a
home.  If I want these thing, I must provide them for myself or enter into a
charitable arrangement.  Call me old fashioned for still believing in the
work ethic.

If someone must provide you with something of value in order to enjoy a
right, then it is not a right, but instead a privilege.  For me to enjoy
my right to free speech, no one needs to build me soap box nor provide me
with a megaphone.  I can't even force you to listen.  *That* is a right.

 Health care is not so easy.  Very often people are frozen out of
 health care because they either cannot afford it.  (most of the folks
 who sell cheap insurance are rip off artists) or they cannot get
insurance.

Then we should get the state out of the health care business and allow real
competition to work, so that it can be affordable for everyone, just as it
is for food and shelter.  Guvmint interference has done far more harm than
good in that regard.

We already have examples of what to expect from guvmint run health care.
Why hasn't anyone talked about reforming Medicare first?  Shouldn't we see
if that much more modest plan, already in existence, can be made sustainable
and workable, before we talk about adding trillions more in spending that we
don't have to begin with?  Medicare is already going to be underwater in the
next few years.  How will O-Care be any different?

I'm sure you've read it by now, but if not, read Whole Foods CEO John
Mackey's op-ed on real reform in health care.  Very good ideas in it and one
of the few honest propositions in this debate.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.ht
ml

And I will reiterate for clarity:  I already spend much more on food and
shelter than I do on health care, at any point in time.  I don't consider
myself lacking in any of the three.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 Everyone shots themselves in the foot sometimes.
 
 Sometimes better than others.
 
 The government is not perfect but neither are we.
 
 Capitalism is not perfect either.
 
 There are some things better handle under the capitalist strategy and
 other things not.

I find it odd that people look to a system that has only made things much
less affordable over the years, not the system that has made most things
much more affordable, as the preferred solution to accessible health care.

Under a free market (not capitalist) option you have choices.  

Under the guvmint option, you have none.

That is the critical difference.

I never claimed it to be perfect.  Just much, much better.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 The beauty of the Single Payer is that we all will
 share the risks. Isn´t this one of the reasons that we live in society?

That's what insurance is: risk pooling.  It's also something I engage by 
choice, not coercion.

I don't choose to be live in a society to be compelled, by the threat of force, 
to accept a system that offers no choice.  That's not society, but a similar 
word that also begins with 's'.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
   I pay less the $200/mo for food. Never really thought about food
 costs being high. Of course no one is this household is obese. And we
 eat steak twice a week. Chicken, pork and fish make up the other days.

I didn't say that food was expensive.  I said I pay more on the 2 items that
we consider to be essential to living, food and shelter, than to what we
consider the very expensive 3rd leg, medicine.  I do this fairly easily in a
relatively expensive city to live in.

That food, which uses a mixed but largely free market system, is so cheap
and plentiful that even the poor can easily afford it, is lost on the
socialized medicine proponents.

 I agree that housing costs are through the roof. No pun intended. But
 I blame the banks mostly for this.

I too blame the banks, the central banks that is.

Funny how political interference in the housing market to create affordable
housing ended up creating a pig-sty free for all that only caused housing
prices to rise out of reach for all but the wealthiest.  To add insult to
injury, we now have a political class that considers these inflated housing
prices to be so sacrosanct that they must be propped up at all costs.

Again, the irony will be lost as to why things cost so damned much.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
   Why do so many believe this health OPTION would be forced on them?
 What part of the word OPTION do these people not understand?

Do I need to point you to videos of Obama advocating a single payer plan or
to the current proponents who have proposed the same over the years?

This is a stalking horse for single payer.  I don't trust the govt. to keep
it's word.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 But you pay for us (USA) to have a military, public security, wars... roads
 and much more. Are you being coerced?...Or...you are sharing?...

The military is provided for explicitly in the US Constitution.

Roads are a given and again, are constitutionally provided, and with all due 
respect, *very* different from deciding which treatments will be covered in 
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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 No, you don't. The single payer plan, which is an option. No where
 have I seen it written or said by it's proponents that it would be
 required of everyone.

Jeff, that IS the single defining component of single payer.  NO ONE else is
paying other than the guvmint, which is kinda the point of *single* payer.

Here, let me google that for you.

Single-payer health care insurance is a public service financing the
delivery of near-universal or universal health care to a given population as
defined by age, citizenship, residency, or any other demographic.

Single-payer health insurance operates by arranging the payment of services
to doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers from a single source
established and managed by government

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_health_care

First hit, for 'single payer.'


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 I was taught many years ago, that the more doctors you have in a
 region the higher the prices.  Doctors do not compete, they judge one
 another on the amount they make.  So if one doctor raises prices, all
 of them will to stay even.
 
 Could you imagine what would happen if Doctors advertised and
 actually competed?  Come see Dr. X we only charge XX for a regular
 visit.  We also offer a money back guarantee!!

The Lasik and laser eye surgery market is very competitive and you know the
prices going in.  They advertise heavily and compete with one another.  Word
of mouth referrals carry a great deal of weight.

I personally know several people who have had these procedures done and all
were very happy with the price and the results.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
   Roads are a given? And they're constitutionally provided? Where?
 Please post that part of the constitution for me.

Oh fer cryin...You DO know how to use a search engine, right?

5th Amendment, takings clause, US Constitution.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases
arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual
service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for
the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be
compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be
deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; **nor
shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.**


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff Wright
 OK on the Mackey thing.  Yes I did read it, and he has some great
 things to say, HOWEVER.
 
 You must have government mandate minimums.  If they do not many
 companies will try and fly through with a bunch of worthless insurance.
 
 Instead of removing mandates, make them nation wide.  At present we
 have 50 states that have 50 different standards.  Cant do what Mackey
 wants without mandates.  (By the way at present my health plan comes
 out of Minnesota while I live in Alabama so whose mandates am I covered
by?)

Rev, now you miss his point.  If you allow companies to compete over state
lines, removing their captive audience, you won't *need* mandates.  That's
what competition is best at providing: choice.

It's also good at providing lower cost alternatives.

 Mandate all companies of a certain size be required to offer
 insurance and allow like companies (food service, grocery etc.) to
 form co-ops to purchase coverage.

C'mon now, do we need laws mandating what sections a grocery store must
provide (and their size, shape and color) or do you think they do that so
that they can win loyal customers?

 What we need is more health plans like this right

No, what we need are more companies to provide competitive pressure.  Your
company doesn't provide it?  That's OK, these 6 others do.  Let markets do
what they do best: weed out the losers.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread Jeff Wright
  Don't bother arguing with this bunch. What they have inflicted on this
  List in recent months is much like what the USA has had inflicted on it
  in recent weeks of wild attacks against rational health care. I don't
  know if you have been following any of this from afar, doctor, but it
  has been crazy. No rationality, just insults. Very sad. 

I agree.  I know that expect much better from our elected representatives
and their lapdogs in the press.

It's sad that a country that once prided itself on free expression has
rulers and elites who can only look down their noses and spew slurs those
that choose to speak their minds.  Dissent is now treated as treason.


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Re: [CGUYS] Guys and GPS

2009-09-04 Thread Jeff Wright
 That claim might have been true when Garmins, Tom Toms and the like were
 a geek toy, but would you care to explain why most GPS units default to
 a female voice?  

I don't know about yours, but my TomTom has Homer Simpson as the voice.

I bought that one, but TomToms have several standard voices to choose from
out of the box, both male and female.  You can even have one with a British
accent, if you're into having a stern nanny correct your naughty, naughty
driving.

Also available are John Cleese and Mr. T.


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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Minions Rush to the Ramparts

2009-09-04 Thread Jeff Wright
 Those were your deep conclusions not theirs. I can't help if you can't
 even read the links you post.

Mike--You're forgetting Tom's Rule of Social Intercourse #1: Everyone else
is quite stupid.

Everything flows from that.


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[CGUYS] Snow Leopard downgrades security and misses opportunity to improve

2009-09-04 Thread Jeff Wright
http://www.sophos.com/blogs/chetw/g/2009/09/02/snow-leopard-downgrades-secur
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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-03 Thread Jeff Wright
  America has its Dick Cheney. CGUYS has Chris Dunford.
 
 What an ignorant comment that is...

No, Chris, run with it.  Ask Tom to go hunting.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
 A client of mine got the 64-bit version of Windows Vista on his new
 computer and was no longer able to use his adaptive Keyboard (which by
 itself costs $395).  I went to the website today and it still does not
 have 64-bit version.

You'd think for a $400 peripheral, he would have made that simple check at
the mfr's web site before committing to 64-bit.

I agree, he shouldn't have to, but that's the reality right now.

Can any of our developers enlighten us as to how hard it is to port a driver
from 32-bit to 64-bit, all other things being equal?


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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
 http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/08/microsoft-002225.php
 
 Those miracle workers in Redmond have had a busy day. What will they
 think of next?

Apple will never have to worry about such things, considering how their ads
are unfailingly stuffed with lily-white actors.  It's like a 1950's Newport
yacht club.

MS ads, OTOH, have demonstrated a tremendous amount of ethnic diversity over
the years.

This was a particularly unwise decision on their marketing trolls' part, but
MS has nothing to apologize for on the whole when it comes to ethnic
representation in their advertising.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
 Apple is making a big push on drivers and beefing up its software
 update process to include more drivers. In SL when you add a new
 peripheral, software update will go out and look for drivers.

I guess I don't have to point out that Windows has been doing this since *at
least* 2002 with the release of XP.  It may have done it with 2000, but I
don't recall.

Windows 7 is pretty well chock-full o' drivers from what I can tell.


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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White

2009-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
 This is true, and, as a Mac user all my computing life, I've noticed this and 
 felt quite uncomfortable about it.  The sense of community is rather skewered 
 toward white reps and users; entertainers of other ethnic origin qualify as 
 emblems only (eg Macy Gray).

Even then, they have problems.

http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2008/03/apple-huge-goof-jobs-entire-board-to.html


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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Google-Bashing Dirty Tricks

2009-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
 This is textbook Microsoft, the source adds. Microsoft has got some
 of the best, highest-priced lobbyists that money can buy in Washington.

Textbook?  Hardly.

MS didn't have any lobbyists until they were sued by the DOJ in the 90's in
collusion with MS competitors whose lobbyists were deep in the system.  Now
MS plays the game.

Congrats.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update i.e. IE 6, 7, 8

2009-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
Nope, to all 3.

 -Original Message-
 Has anyone had trouble with Windows Update, when using any of those
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
 Now you are being silly just to prove a point. Most people do not dual
 boot and may who try find themselves in a world of pain.

As if you have a point.  Who cares if most people don't?  Most people
don't use Macs, but that doesn't stop you from using them.  

You can dual boot between 32 and 64 bit OSes and people I know do already.
Fortunately the Windows ecosystem is much more 64-bit friendly today than it
was only a year ago.

What pain?  It's no different from Boot Camp that you so loudly hooted about
years ago.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Mark is correct.  4 GB is a physical limitation of 32-bit kernels, which is
the best reason to go 64-bit: no real limitation to the amount of RAM you
can use, other than what the motherboard will support.  However, I can
recall when 32-bit came around in the 90's, Wow!  4 GB of RAM!  We'll never
see that in our lifetime.

Amiga was 32-bit very early, correct?

PAE is a workaround for datacenter systems.  From Tony's wiki link:

x86 processor hardware architecture is augmented with additional address
lines used to select the additional memory, so physical address size is
increased from 32 bits to 36 bits. This, theoretically, increases maximum
physical memory size from 4 GB to 64 GB. The 32-bit size of the virtual
address is not changed, so regular application software continues to use
instructions with 32-bit addresses and (in a flat memory model) is limited
to 4 gigabytes of virtual address space. The operating system uses page
tables to map this 4 GB address space into the 64 GB of virtual memory. The
mapping is typically applied differently for each process. In this way, the
extra memory is useful even though no single regular application can access
it all simultaneously. For example, in Windows, x86, 32-bit-versions, the
maximum 4GB of virtual address space (VAS) is separated into two sections of
2GB: 2GB is allocated to kernel processing and the other 2GB is allocated to
user. Regardless of how much physical RAM a Windows, x86, 32-bit-version
computing system has, the VAS is still limited to 4GB.  However, this is not
true for Windows, x64-versions - which incidentally have up to 16TB of VAS.

 -Original Message-
 Do you understand binary numbers, Tony?  A 32-bit binary number cannot
 go beyond 4,294,967,296 (4 gigabytes, 4*1024*1024*1024), so a 32-bit
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
 My understanding of the Mess Vista got introduced to was yes it was
 MS not releasing code and not allowing coders access to needed knowledge.
 
 I remember a few of the antivirus folks complaining quite publicly about
this.
 
 Seems that they did a lot more work with 7.

The anti-virus folks, most notably Symantec, complained because MS changed
the kernel security and wouldn't let them hook in that level.  MS eventually
caved, which was a mistake.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
 Vista's problem wasn't 64 or 32bit related it was that drivers were not
 written for vista until it had been out nearly a year.  You can blame this
 on MS only in that they may have not given the code to software writers
soon
 enough.

I don't even blame MS for that.  

The Vista beta's were out over a year before Vista was released; there was
tons of lead time even for the 32-bit drivers.  This is just another
instance of the industry sitting on their hands.


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Re: [CGUYS] Postcard virus

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
It's an old hoax.  Consider getting a new friend.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Jordanjor17...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone gotten a warning or seen anything about the Postcard virus? A
 friend of mine forwarded a big panic about not opening anything in an email
 entitled Postcard.
 As a Mac user I guess getting emails like this are the greatest threat.


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Re: [CGUYS] One Upmanship

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Wright
 Windows 7 Ultimate can support up to 192 GB of RAM. Less expensive
 versions of Windows can go fish.
 
 Snow Leopard can support a staggering 16 Tbytes.

1 TB of 2 GB 1066MHz DDR3 ECC memory modules from Apple will cost you
$50,000.

16 TB will cost $800,000.

The good news is that shipping is free on orders over $50.

You may want to get a good supply of duct tape, and maybe a hammer too, to
get all of that into the open slots.

Have fun.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-26 Thread Jeff Wright
 Sure is a huge difference. Reinstalling Windows is not quick and will
 probably mess up many installed apps. Not something that is done
 lightly. Definitely not something you would want to switch back and
 forth.

You can dual boot with 32-bit and 64-bit versions.  I know people who do it
now.
 


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Jeff Wright
 Nope they don't get paid until it is shipped!  Did not order through
 MS, ordered through merchants who cannot charge until it is shipped.,

Who's on first? is very important to Tom.  Humor him and maybe he'll shut
up about it.

Good show old boy!  Maybe next time is when we catch the weasel in the act
before you do!  Jolly good!
 
 Get your facts straight.

Tom uses facts?


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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-23 Thread Jeff Wright
 Fortunately there were many other posts that were
 thoughtful about this very interesting situation. 

TomLogik(t)

Not thoughtful = Objective reality.


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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-23 Thread Jeff Wright
 Time for a REAL reality check. Apple has rejected many apps that it
 later accepted. They're not lying. They're being cautious. Apple
 developers prefer to delay a questionable app until it will work nicely
 with other apps and the OS. Google Voice does neither. They'll work it
 out like they've done before.

Well, there's a well-known and very good tech site with serious inside 
connections in the industry and then there's...your opinion.  Call me crazy for 
not taking you as seriously.

Apple's criteria for accepting apps isn’t what you would call organized.  Or 
predictable.  Or comprehensible.

It's all about the money and I'm fine with that.  I'm also fine with Apple 
telling Google to pound sand.  The least Apple could do is be honest about it 
instead of hiding behind their lawyer's skirts.


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Re: [CGUYS] Logmein

2009-08-23 Thread Jeff Wright
 LogMeIn is easy as cake... a great tool.  Web based it takes all the
 tech out of setting up VNC / remote desktop login etc.
 
 The Free version does most of all you want.  No SFTP or printing to the
 controlling computer that you get with Pro.

I use LogMeIn Free for supporting all of our laptops.  It saves me many schleps 
to the machine.


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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-23 Thread Jeff Wright
 I have at least as much experience with Apple products as your so-called
 tech site. There are NO real inside connections with Apple, except where
 Apple allows. As soon as there are leaks, the leaker[s] is/are fired.
 Industrial espionage is serious business. I still have a cousin who
 works for Apple as an engineer. They're as secretive about their
 projects as the NSA.

No, but they do have connections inside Google and with iPhone developers.  
They solidly rebut Apple's version and Michael Arrington, TechCrunch's founder 
and the story's author, is as fawning over Apple as any first-order MFB.

Yes, this is he said, she said.  I don't pretend it to be anything else, but 
I also don't pretend that Apple's version is the handed-down-from-God gospel.

I just want to know whom will sell who down the river first, Apple or ATT?


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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-22 Thread Jeff Wright
 Apple's response to the DOJ inquiry looks a lot more plausible than
 the explanations proffered by the conspiracy theorists. In a
 nutshell, adding Google Voice to an iPhone significantly changes the
 operation of the iPhone. It replaces so many of the iPhone's
 functions that it left Apple wondering if the result was still an
 iPhone.
 
 Apple claims that it did not reject Google Voice, but that it merely
 delayed its approval and kicked the decision upstairs to a senior
 management committee. They need some time to sort it out.

You first feign outrage over Google Voice and then almost immediately fold
like a cheap chair and spew a they're just so misunderstood defense of
Apple.

Usually at this point in the script there's a lively song and dance number
to bring the audience back.


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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-22 Thread Jeff Wright
 I posted two different articles about the same issue. I give very little
 credence to anything on the editorial page of the WSJ, but it's
 certainly provocative--and narrow-minded. Consider the header, using
 Kill instead of a more accurate description. ATT isn't dying, it's
 SBC, an incestuous relationship that is doing just fine. None of this
 would be an issue if the telcos would embrace new technology, and price
 it fairly. No, they prefer to continue to double-charge for cellular
 calls and cry foul when they get slapped by Google and Skype--and FCC.

So get a T-Mobile myTouch, which runs Android, and get all the Google Voice you 
want.  No ideological contortions needed.  T-Mobile's A-Y-C-E 3G plan is $25 
for web and $35 for web and messaging.

You get a great phone with GV on it without waiting and ATT+Apple get the 
message loud and clear.

Click here for the instructions:  

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/09/how-i-learned-to-quit-the-iphone-and-love-google-voice/


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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-22 Thread Jeff Wright
 Apple's response to the DOJ inquiry looks a lot more plausible than
 the explanations proffered by the conspiracy theorists. In a
 nutshell, adding Google Voice to an iPhone significantly changes the
 operation of the iPhone. It replaces so many of the iPhone's
 functions that it left Apple wondering if the result was still an
 iPhone.
 
 Apple claims that it did not reject Google Voice, but that it merely
 delayed its approval and kicked the decision upstairs to a senior
 management committee. They need some time to sort it out.

Time for a reality check:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/21/the-simple-truth-whats-really-going-on-
with-apple-google-att-and-the-fcc/

Our sources at Google tell us in no uncertain terms that Apple rejected the
application. And we have an independent third party app developer who tells
us that an Apple Exec also told them back in July that the Google Voice
Application was rejected.

In other words, there is strong evidence that Apple is, well, lying.


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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-22 Thread Jeff Wright
 So if you are using Google voice across the data plan as you describe
 does that essentially free you from the expensive daytime minutes
 restriction?

I don't know the specific details.  You'd have to contact TM.

 Can you get a cell phone with a data plan AND WITHOUT a talk plan?

Soon, you won't be able to *not* get a data plan on ATT with a smartphone.

http://gizmodo.com/5342749/att-forcing-data-plans-with-all-smartphones-starting-sept-6


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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-22 Thread Jeff Wright
 It is about profits.  Trust me, the only thing that matters is rhe
 money.

Oh, no question.  I wasn't suggesting otherwise.

 If a product is good it will stand on its own.

Agreed.


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Re: [CGUYS] Slow Dell startup

2009-08-21 Thread Jeff Wright
Chris--What model is it?  The flashy light is likely a trouble code.

 -Original Message-
 I've got an older Dell that hasn't been used much for a year or so, but
now I
 need it. It works fine, but after I hit the power button it takes a couple
of
 minutes before it starts the boot process.
 It just sits there, its little power light flashing rapidly, for about two
 minutes, then it starts the boot. Once it starts, everything's fine. So
it's
 annoying, but not a big deal.
 
 Diagnosis?


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Re: [CGUYS] Slow Dell startup

2009-08-21 Thread Jeff Wright
 Yeah, it's not that kind of flashy light. It's the power on light in the
 center of the power button. It starts out flashing on and off slowly, then
 ramps up so that it's flashing faster and faster
 until it finally boots. There's no sequence that you could interpret as a
 code.

Interesting.  I'd 2nd the hard drive scenario and also posit that it could
be a faulty power supply that has a component that isn't fully completing a
circuit until it warms up.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
 Now tell me, doesn't this business sound the least bit suspicious to
 you?

I believe I already stated that both mfrs make exaggerated claims on battery
life, at least that's what I've seen from reports of field testing the
battery life on the Touch.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
 OKAY WFBs, EDUCATE ME. CAN THE ZUNE HD DO THIS TOO?
 
 With TomTom for iPhone, millions of iPhone users can now benefit
 from the same easy-to-use and intuitive interface, turn-by-turn
 spoken navigation and unique routing technology that our 30 million
 portable navigation device users rely on every day, said Corinne
 Vigreux, managing director of TomTom.

Seriously?  You're comparing a product with an established ecosystem (thanks
largely to the iPhone, not the Touch) to one that isn't even for sale yet?

Really?  Do tell.  This kind of derangement greatly amuses me.

My refurbed TomTom 130 only cost me $50, BTW.  Will iPhone users get the
safety cameras and map share features that I enjoy at half the price?  

No?  What a bargain.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
 TWO OUT OF TWO TOMS AGREE...
 The comment is derived from a general consensus by analysts that
 Microsoft's portable media player missed its mark, and doesn't look
 to gain any ground in its battle against Apple's iPhone and iPod
 Touch anytime soon. 

We all know that market analysts are *never* wrong, right?  

So, if you won't go in to stamp collecting as a relaxing hobby, how about
butterfly collecting?  I always pictured you as someone at home with a net.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
 The old argument Everybody's doing it so why can't I?

You saw an argument in there?  You saw a defense of making exaggerated
claims?

Not to worry, I'm sure chronic paranoia will be covered under O-Care.

 In truth, reviewers report Apple's estimates to be quite conservative.

I've seen the opposite reported many times by actual users.  Go figure.


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Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
 John C. Dvorak was going off about this on the No Agenda podcast he does
 with Adam Curry.  Curry is a little too tinfoil hat for my tastes but can
be
 amusing in his paranoia.  #121 is all about questioning the credentials of
 our nations CIOs.
 

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/12/special-report-is-us-chief-information
-
 officer-cio-vivek-kundra-a-phony/
 

http://gigaom.com/2009/08/12/dvorak-raises-doubts-about-us-cio-vivek-kundra/

$700 toilet seats.  $18,000,000 web sites.

Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.

That's a fairly damning piece by Dvorak. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
 You completely ignore the question I asked and substitute a straw-man
 in its stead. Quite intellectually dishonest.

I didn't ignore your idiotic and pointless jingoism.  You should be
flattered.

 Of course you don't want to discuss if such applications will run in
 the Zune HD.

Go nuts.  Tell us which ones will run on a Zune HD.

Go on.  I'll wait. whistles

 Why an I I'm not surprised?

So, you *are* going to spend twice as much on GPS software for half the
functionality.

Let's call that the smug tax.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Jeff Wright
 I think Sarah Palin joined the List under an assumed name.

The Zune Panel has noted your opinion.  Thank you for participating in this
public forum.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Jeff Wright
 Battery life:
 I said *advertised* battery life and I'm sticking with that.  The HD
 numbers you quote comes from something MS reportedly sent
 to engadget.  However, MS's own store as of a few minutes ago
 says 24 hours audio, 4 hours video:

http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Zune-HD-32/product/41941DC9#ctl19_tcla
_a

OK, stick with whatever you want.  It's from MS, that makes it a claimed
battery life.

It's a safe bet that both mfrs claims are exaggerated.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Jeff Wright
   Perhaps so, but radio stations most certainly use the quality thing
 to convince listeners that they should invest in HD radio receivers.
 Whadda ya think HD is an abbreviation for?  Certainly nothing to do
 with content.

The HD in HD Radio stands for hybrid digital, not high definition.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-qIrveshfIsa/learn/learningcenter/car/hdradio_fa
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
 A thought. They hope to win market share by undercutting Apple's
 current price, but are introducing a model that is technically
 several years behind Apple's current models.

[citation needed]

Notice how my post said nothing at all about iPod's, it simply extolled how
nice the Zune HD was, yet Herr Doctor managed to find a way to Pelosi up the
thread.  When you have nothing showing in your hand, don't forget the
slander.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
 So first you want to compare it to the first gen ipod touch that are
 refurb...now you want to compare them to unreleased ipod touches...

Those goal posts aren't going to move themselves, you know!


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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
Treesize Pro or WinDirStat.

 -Original Message-
 I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of
the
 other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.
This
 after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.
 
 There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
 space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
 I know I'm nitpicking...

That's all that really needed to be said.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
 -Original Message-
 From: TPiwowar

 I'll stick with my own bigotry, ignorance and confirmation bias.

FTFY

Mac zealots.  The best free advertising Microsoft can have.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
  Where is the zune HD behind on the touch?
 
 Well, there's:
 
 Screen size

(Zune HD) vs. (iPod Touch)

3.3 vs. 3.5 Will you really notice?

 advertised battery life

Music: 33 hours vs. 36 hours
Video: 8.5 hours vs. 6 hours

The OLED tech comes through here.

 Bluetooth

No word either way on Zune.  Assume not.

 apps (by about 64,000 or so)

No contest.  Touch wins.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
 Note that our WFBs are now manufacturing false posts to further their
 evil disinformation campaign.

BWAHAHAHAHA!


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[CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-14 Thread Jeff Wright
Pretty friggin awesome.  Very zippy.  Very smooth.

 

http://gizmodo.com/5337532/zune-hd-tv-interface-makes-it-a-media-center-for-
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Offers to Pay Buckets for Zune Apps

2009-08-14 Thread Jeff Wright
 Great justice in that.
 
 In the 90's MS extorted from Apple the copy write privilege to  sell
 Win95 by threat of dropping Office for the Mac.  Now Apple has MS over a
 barrel.
 
 I say go fish!

Funny that, even though I have no idea to what exactly you reference above.

Give it a few minutes.  Tom will be along to remind us that MS is a
monopolist.


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[CGUYS] Google allowing users to opt-out

2009-08-12 Thread Jeff Wright
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/google_opt_out_feature_lets_users?utm_
source=videoembed

http://tinyurl.com/ltfvaj


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[CGUYS] Just try to do this with your precious Airbook

2009-08-12 Thread Jeff Wright
Go ahead, I dare you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiNaadVOQEMeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecrunchgea
r%2Ecom%2Fpage%2F2%2Ffeature=player_embedded#t=30

http://tinyurl.com/q4ztmq


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Re: [CGUYS] price drop?

2009-08-11 Thread Jeff Wright
 Appleinsider is reporting that the 32gig zune could be as much as 100
 dollars less then the 32gig touch.  This could be good news even for MS
 haters like Tom.  Though the zune takes very little market share, this
could
 be enough to push apple into lowering the price of the touch..good news
all
 around.

Good to see that someone has beaten some sense into the marketing trolls at
MS finally.

It was a mistake to position the Zune at the same price point as the iPod.
You don't take on the 8000 lb, firmly entrenched gorilla with only an FM
radio and the undefined and untested social to differentiate your product.
The social was a mega-flop, so at least they'll compete directly with
something near and dear to Apple's heart: profit margins.


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Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-10 Thread Jeff Wright
 Not true at all. They buy guns by the dozen, legally (because it is
 so easy in VA) and then sell them in DC (illegally). Why should they
 bother to do something illegally when it is so easy to do in legally?

I thought we weren't going to have this discussion?


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Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-09 Thread Jeff Wright
 If you check the Wild List you will see that there are 100s of
 active, circulating viruses that can attack Windows and we have to
 add anti-virus software to watch for them.

Tom likes this metric because it says what he wants it to say.  It has no
real meaning, but oo, is it scary sounding.  In Tom's world, the only
security threat is a virus.  Listen to that advice and you will soon be
sorry.

Go to http://www.securemac.com/ if you want an reality-based source on Mac
security.


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Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the
 people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on
 your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs.
 That is what makes it an issue.

I don't think I've ever known anyone with such a strong reality distortion
field.

You must like the way it makes you feel light on your feet, since it's
strength actually warps gravity.


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Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for
 the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The
 competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its
 early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple
 appears to be its own worst enemy with a nutty approval process at its
 App Store. If they don't fix that soon there will be developer leakage
 to the other platforms. I bet Apple will fix it soon.

Recent history is littered with those who were there first in their
particular field.

Palm, Sony, IBM, Apple, Xerox, etc.  Being first isn't first is no guarantee
of being the last man standing.  All of these companies were innovative, all
had a dominant lock on their market and all were soon surpassed by
competitors with better products.  In fact, if recent history is our guide,
being first with a successful, standard setting product is a high order of
probability that you will be the first to drop as the market matures.


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Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 Good example. Imperial IT management always assumes that they know how
 to do everybody's job better than the people who were hired to do the
 job.

Tom is certified by the National Association of Petulance.  He knows what
he's talking about.

I would love to see Tom's client list one day.  I suspect there is a strong
correlation between companies that were doing OK, which then suddenly found
themselves so overwhelmed by the repair costs from water fixtures being
thrown through windows, that they had no choice but to go under.  


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Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got to
 shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now, or
 wait 'till later. I can't find the Start Button, so it *must* be OSX.

Tom also never moves off of v. 1.0 of his applications.

Those later versions are just a corporate conspiracy to get him to
needlessly spend money and reboot his machines.


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Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 If you can't get emotional about technology,what are you doing here?

Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are
other, more secure and padded places you should be.


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Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 This discussion is pretty much pure speculation but:
 The iPhone wasn't just first, it was about a generation and a half
 ahead. Given Apple's history of innovation it's more likely that they
 will innovate again than drop from popularity.

You'll notice that first was in quotes in my post.  Very few companies are 
literally first, but they were the first with a successful and popular 
implementation of their product.


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Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the
 people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on
 your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs.
 That is what makes it an issue.

Let's get one thing clear right now.  I don't constantly talk derisively
about the people I work with.  In the decade + I've been on this list, I've
mentioned people I work with fewer times as you have fingers on your hands.
Even then, it was accurate depiction of the situation, events and
personalities of the people involved.  

OTOH, you spend an inordinate amount of your time and energy here sputtering
pejoratives, logical fallacies and projecting your own shortcomings onto
anyone who has the temerity to disagree with you.  Add to that, you are the
ultimate partisan, throwing stink bombs into the crowd as often as you can,
just to see how much crap you can stir up.  It may make for good
E*N*T*E*R*T*A*I*N*M*E*N*T on the list, but it has distinct limits of
tolerance.

I can take it as well as I give it and I haven't always behaved as well as I
should, but act like an arrogant and smug shithead, and that's all you'll
get in return, chief.  Act like a normal and civil human being and I'll
return it in kind.  

Give it a try, why don't you?


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Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 Every right winger like yourself has a stronger reality distortion field.
 Now go back to your worship of Dick and Sara and leave the rational
 discussion to others.

You know Jordan, I want to be nice to you, I really do.  But then, you shoot 
your mouth off with such blinding, illiterate and shallow partisanship. 

Please don't.


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Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 An you have the temerity to accuse me of having a reality distortion
 field? Your beloved M$ is moving in a clockwise direction in the
 Southern Hemisphere, and in a counterclockwise direction in the
 Northern Hemisphere.

Yes, I do, and it's at full power right now.

Name one instance where MS was first with something.  I'll wait.

 The future belongs to Apple, Google, Amazon, and possibly the
 revitalized Palm.

The near future belongs to Google, MS and Linux to a certain degree.  Apple
certainly has a god deal of success with the mobile market right now, but it
still has to overcome Blackberry, which is still outselling it and at equal
revenue.  The rest of the market is closing in.  Whether or not the future
belongs to them remains to be seen. 

 Proving nothing. 

Herr Doctor's default setting.


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Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 Reviewers are already commenting that HD is false advertising. To
 display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also
 sold separately). 

There's an app for that.


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Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine
 translates into matches iPod touch.  To me though, it says that
 the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great,
 which matches the impressions I've gathered.  But you are right
 that I should've let Mike speak for himself, and state my own
 opinions.

If it's anything like the current Zune interface, it will be very nice and
easy to navigate.  From the videos that I've seen, it looks very similar,
but with additional options and improved graphics.

 As for the points you made for the Zune HD, I could address
 them, but suffice it to say that it really does seem to me that while
 the Zune HD may have some points in its favor over the current
 generation of iPhones/Touch, they will not be nearly enough to be
 any kind of game changer (even assuming that Apple waits a while
 to update its line, which it won't).

Having owned both, I can say that the Zune is technologically superior and a
better design than the iPod.  The HD model is extending that superiority
even further.  But yeah, the iPod is the 8000 lb gorilla on the block.  No
games will be changed, but you will have another option to use.  You don't
have to depend on the iHegemony.


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Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-08 Thread Jeff Wright
 There are two ways to handle budget problems.

Therein lies your problem: a total and complete lack of vision.

The real world isn't binary.
 
 I'll leave it to our sad sack WFBs to struggle with doing less with
 less.

We do just fine, since we don't have to pay the Apple tax.


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