[CGUYS] Help
My friends Guess what happened. When I needed my computer the most it froze on me. Then, when I tried to start it I got this continuing beeping without stopping. I put it off and after a few seconds it would start again alone with the beeps.I had to keep pressing the off button for while for it stay quiet. Waited for a few minutes, tried to start it the same thing What do I do? Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help
Thank you... This is what I did: first changed the electrical outlet to make sure the computer was receiving proper current. Nothing changed. Then I opened the computer to see if any fans had stopped working, especially the CPU. They were working. Then I went to the memory slots and pushed the memories down again to their places... Guess what? Started working again. This is what I called strike of luck...on a Sunday evening when tomorrow I will need the computer where I have all my appointments, etc... Going to sleep... Marcio -Original Message- From: John DeCarlo johndeca...@gmail.com Sent: Jun 13, 2010 9:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Help Beeps indicate a hardware problem. Google your motherboard manual and the beep codes so you can interpret them. Or call the manufacturer for support. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: My friends Guess what happened. When I needed my computer the most it froze on me. Then, when I tried to start it I got this continuing beeping without stopping. I put it off and after a few seconds it would start again alone with the beeps.I had to keep pressing the off button for while for it stay quiet. Waited for a few minutes, tried to start it the same thing What do I do? Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Should I buy for my wife?
I just bought the AR1600... with Windows xp. I think it will work for what I want. I could install windows 7 but it has only 1 giga memory. Will let you all know. Marcio -Original Message- From: George Carr geo...@georgecarrstudio.com Sent: Apr 17, 2010 12:29 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Should I buy for my wife? I have been using the Acer Aspire Revo R3610-U9012 for a few months as part of a home theater setup and it has been fine. This is more expensive than the AR1600 but it comes with a wireless keyboard and mouse (which I needed) plus Windows 7 with its built-in security program, which seems to work. It's amazingly quiet and small, and I understand it can be attached to the back of a flat display to keep it off your desk and out of sight. Acer - AspireRevo Nettop with Intel® Atom™ Processor Model: AR1600-U910H | SKU: 9535434 She is not a computer person. Only uses it for limited e-mail and for microsoft word. Is not interested in using for more than this. Would this Acer do the job? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Should I buy for my wife?
Acer - AspireRevo Nettop with Intel® Atom™ Processor Model: AR1600-U910H | SKU: 9535434 She is not a computer person. Only uses it for limited e-mail and for microsoft word. Is not interested in using for more than this. Would this Acer do the job? Thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles.
Thank you very much. So I can boot on XP and if there is no wireless connection I can install the Linksys driver. It says to install the driver first and then connect the wireless adapter. I guess I will have to disconnect the adapter (USB) that is working with Sindows 7 and then connect it again after installing the driver in XP. Can I use the same adapter?... Sorry for so many questions... Marcio -Original Message- From: Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com Sent: Apr 7, 2010 12:27 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles. Marcio wrote: Thanks guys. I am now a little scared because the WIndows 7 is working fine and connects to my wireless network automatically. I am afraid to boot with XP because it may not connect automatically and I will then have to install the Linksys Wireless Driver for XP that is already working with the Windows 7... When I boot things move OK and then stop asking me if I want to boot with Windows 7 or with an older OS (which I know is XP). If you have a true dual boot setup, then there is absolutely no risk installing the same driver in XP and Win7. You just need to ask whoever installed your OS whether it's dual booting or Win7 with XP mode. I note however that I don't know of any way to start XP mode without first starting Windows 7 first so if when you boot, one of the choices is the old OS, you are dual booting. Call and check if this still worries you, but truthfully XP mode isn't all that useful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles.
Thanks guys. I am now a little scared because the WIndows 7 is working fine and connects to my wireless network automatically. I am afraid to boot with XP because it may not connect automatically and I will then have to install the Linksys Wireless Driver for XP that is already working with the Windows 7... When I boot things move OK and then stop asking me if I want to boot with Windows 7 or with an older OS (which I know is XP). Should I go ahead and first try to boot the XP and see what happens without doing anything else if it doesn´t connect to the network and then go back and try Windows 7 to see if the connection is still there? Many thanks Marcio -Original Message- From: Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com Sent: Apr 6, 2010 6:05 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles. On 04/06/2010 04:00 PM, Brian Jones wrote: Careful there, Marcio! You are sure you are taking about a 'dual boot' and not 'windows XP mode', right? Windows XP mode will use the virtual machine software to share your network adapter with your XP mode virtual machine. It's quirky, but it works somewhat. Do NOT load an ethernet device driver on your XP machine! Uh did you notice that Marcio stated he can boot with the old WinXP or new Win7. That's not a reference to WinXP mode, which gives and entirely different interface than the startup boot menu and I don't think WinXP mode can be selected at boot time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles.
Thanks! I am scared because I don´t want to mess what is working: WIndows 7 in the network... Will wait to get the courage to boot the XP... Marcio -Original Message- From: Brian Jones wjone...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Apr 6, 2010 5:00 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles. Careful there, Marcio! You are sure you are taking about a 'dual boot' and not 'windows XP mode', right? Windows XP mode will use the virtual machine software to share your network adapter with your XP mode virtual machine. It's quirky, but it works somewhat. Do NOT load an ethernet device driver on your XP machine! If you are truly 'dual booting' (you computer asks you which operating system to use when you turn it on), then installing the device drivers is necessary, and should not cause any problems. I say should, because it depends on the writer of the install script... was he careful enough to prevent the install program from finding the other operating system and changing those device drivers. Windows 98 used to do this... if you put 2 copies on one computer, you had to hide the old install from the new install or the new install would damage the registry of the old install. Since Win7 tends to hide it's drives from XP by default, then install Win7 drivers first (you already have), then reboot and install the XP drivers last. Good Luck! -Brian On 4/4/2010 5:47 PM, Marcio wrote: Now I have a new computer Intel Dualcore and Windows 7. Working fine. The guy in the shop convinced me to have dual boot so that now I am able to boot with the old Windows XP or with the new Windows 7. Working OK. But I am scared when it comes connecting top my wireless network with my Linksys Adapter. First I was able to install the Linksys driver when in Windows XP but I had troubles installing and connecting with the network with Windows 7. Finally after uninstalling the driver in Windows XP and boot in Windows 7 and I was able to connect it to the network. It is working fine now. But I am afraid of booting on Windows XP and messing this up. Even more afraid to install the Linksys driver in Windows XP and this creating problems for the connection when booting Windows 7. Should I do it? Can I use the same adapter for both boots? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles.
Thank you very much. You make great sense and I confirm what you said. I don´t see much need to boot into XP... Marcio -Original Message- From: Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com Sent: Apr 5, 2010 3:36 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles. Finally after uninstalling the driver in Windows XP and boot in Windows 7 and I was able to connect it to the network. It is working fine now. But I am afraid of booting on Windows XP and messing this up. Even more afraid to install the Linksys driver in Windows XP and this creating problems for the connection when booting Windows 7. Should I do it? Can I use the same adapter for both boots? Assuming you have a typical dual boot setup, what you do in XP should have little effect on your configuration in Win7. You supposedly can access the same wifi equipment in both without endangering either. Assuming also that you aren't going to delete in either OS without considering what the files do, dual-booting is a likely good solution for you. I must say however that most folks with Win7 don't find much excuse to boot into WinXP as far as I can tell except for things like using hardware for which there are no Win7 drivers or the drivers don't work ala some TV cards. Even then, Win7 can normally use WinXP or Vista drivers for that hardware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Here I am again...in troubles.
Now I have a new computer Intel Dualcore and Windows 7. Working fine. The guy in the shop convinced me to have dual boot so that now I am able to boot with the old Windows XP or with the new Windows 7. Working OK. But I am scared when it comes connecting top my wireless network with my Linksys Adapter. First I was able to install the Linksys driver when in Windows XP but I had troubles installing and connecting with the network with Windows 7. Finally after uninstalling the driver in Windows XP and boot in Windows 7 and I was able to connect it to the network. It is working fine now. But I am afraid of booting on Windows XP and messing this up. Even more afraid to install the Linksys driver in Windows XP and this creating problems for the connection when booting Windows 7. Should I do it? Can I use the same adapter for both boots? Confused. Help. Thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Netscape Composer
I want to go back to create web pages. I used to work with Netscape Composer. Is there a place where I can find it? If not, which program I should use? I have WS_FS Pro. Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Kindle
Which one is better, the Kindle or the Kindle DX ? Thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? Marcio -Original Message- From: Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Sent: Jan 24, 2010 9:44 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag Wow, bringing back memories now. My first SLR was (I think it was called) a Practica. It had the screw mount interchangeable lenses. Talk about impractical. But damn near indestructible. Much like my Nikon F3 was. You could throw those cameras across the room, pick them up and they'd still work just fine. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I have three. My dads old Exakta, my old Pentax ME Super, and my newer Minolta. My Pentax needs some work and those folks are hard to find. My sons got my dads Canon Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I used Panasonic X film had smal grains. Then we had Plus X. Good old days. When color came in I no longer could work in the lab.What a pain. Marcio -Original Message- From: Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net Sent: Jan 24, 2010 11:53 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag Yes, back in the '50s, I ran a lot of BW pan film through a C3 and developed it myself (I still have the negatives and prints somewhere...). Then I went to a Kodak Retina, which was advanced by comparison. The next was Pentax K1000 with a large bag full of lenses and accessories. When I retired, the company gave me a Minolta Supreme (point shoot + zoom) which ended up taking the place of the Pentax 90% of the time. Now, of course, I use a digital camera (currently a Kodak Z710, which is a little bulky and slow, but has an excellent Schneider Varigon lens). That reminds me that I still have a half exposed roll of film in the Minolta... I have not been at all tempted to spend Big Bucks on a DSLR with interchangeable lenses. I am sure that, in the hands of a talented professional, they take great pictures, but I suspect that most of them are sold to yuppies who want to show off their disposable income. I also suspect that many of those never get taken out of the box. Mike Marcio wrote: I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Yes 35 mm, black and white. I used to develop and enlarge the pictures. Dou you know that they still seel her in E-Bay? You can see how it dominated inte scenario of photogtapphy in Wikipedia... Marcio -Original Message- From: John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 24, 2010 1:32 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag The Argus was my dad's good camera. I shot and developed a little bit in High School with it. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: Yes, back in the '50s, I ran a lot of BW pan film through a C3 and developed it myself (I still have the negatives and prints somewhere...). Then I went to a Kodak Retina, which was advanced by comparison. The next was Pentax K1000 with a large bag full of lenses and accessories. When I retired, the company gave me a Minolta Supreme (point shoot + zoom) which ended up taking the place of the Pentax 90% of the time. Now, of course, I use a digital camera (currently a Kodak Z710, which is a little bulky and slow, but has an excellent Schneider Varigon lens). That reminds me that I still have a half exposed roll of film in the Minolta... I have not been at all tempted to spend Big Bucks on a DSLR with interchangeable lenses. I am sure that, in the hands of a talented professional, they take great pictures, but I suspect that most of them are sold to yuppies who want to show off their disposable income. I also suspect that many of those never get taken out of the box. Mike Marcio wrote: I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I used to have a nice amplifier to enlarge the photos and I could do many tricks in the dark room. And there were many kinds of developpers for films and papers and many kinds of papers. Great. Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Jan 24, 2010 5:49 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Robert Carroll wrote: My daughter three years ago took photography in high school. There they still use BW film in cameras and learn to develop and print in a darkroom. I loaned her my Pentax Super ME to take the class. I was quite upset to find that the photography class my son was taking wasted many hours teaching them how to develop film and make prints in the darkroom. Completely useless skills. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Back thereI received several prizes in photo contests with the Argus C3. Marcio -Original Message- From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:39 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag EVIL looks very good, but still a bit expensive. By coincidence, I just received a review for The Best Camera Is The One That’s With You™ by Chase Jarvis. http://www.thebestcamera.com/book.html Excellent advice. The Best Camera Is The One That’s With You. That includes Brownie, box camera, compact, SLR, DSLR, EVIL, Holga, cell phone, pinhole, etc. [haven't read the book yet, only a few reviews]. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...
You can make them do both, flash when it is not necessary and not flash when it is. Easy to regulate. Marcio -Original Message- From: Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net Sent: Jan 18, 2010 7:42 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products... Most cameras these days have sensors and will fire the flash if the light level is low. You have to manually defeat the flash if you don't want it. Mike Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Because they do not know how to take pictures. I have taken my point and click cameras to Bristol and have gotten some nice shots without a hitch. You take pictures of fast moving objects a lot like you fire a gun at them, lead them I get a kick out of the films I see where you have a whole stadium of folks and all these flashes are going off. They have no clue to how a flash works and the limitation of them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...
The Leica C Lux 3 has a Quick Auto Focus that works fine when you need it. I am very happy with it. Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Jan 18, 2010 9:16 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products... I'm not taking pictures of fast moving objects. I'm just trying to take a picture of unposed people at a wedding or some other party or gathering. By the time the shutter fires, good expressions have gone to bad ones, and heads have turned so that the face is no longer at a good angle or even visible. The objects (the people) are still in the picture, as they weren't moving their bodies to a new location, they were just repositioning the parts of their bodies. (a terrible description of the process, but a better one doesn't come quickly to mind.) I had a Ricoh Mirai from the early or mid 80's. 35mm film, but a good zoom lens. It had autofocus, and had the same problem because of the time it took for the autofocus to execute. Fred Holmes At 02:59 PM 1/18/2010, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Because they do not know how to take pictures. I have taken my point and click cameras to Bristol and have gotten some nice shots without a hitch. You take pictures of fast moving objects a lot like you fire a gun at them, lead them I get a kick out of the films I see where you have a whole stadium of folks and all these flashes are going off. They have no clue to how a flash works and the limitation of them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free. Marcio -Original Message- From: t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: Jan 2, 2010 3:00 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question Don't forget that you can also get VOIP services like Skype at zero cost. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
For free?... Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:24 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Marcio wrote: Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free. You old folks may not have noticed, but a modern household is going to have a small computer sitting where the telephone used to sit. It will be running Skype 24/7. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
I am not sure how this can be done. In the Magic Jack devise there is an outlet for the phone line. Marcio -Original Message- From: rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:30 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question If you plug in magic jack on computer, internal mic and spkr are all you need (I have IBM Thinkpad). Needs no fone. Dial on screen with mouse or via phonebook. -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question The most modern phone you have that works on POTS is a corded handset. I suspect one could also use a cordless handset, if one were to plug the base station into the MagicJack. (just as the base station is plugged into the RJ-11 wall outlet the same way that a corded handset is plugged into a wall outlet.) You just couldn't use a cordless handset by itself, without the base station. What the information is telling you is that the MagicJack does _not_ include its own handset. Nor does it use a headset (like Skype does). Nor does it use a USB speakerphone (like is available for Skype). It uses a POTS telephone, connected by the customary cord with an RJ-11 plug on the end. Anything that electrically looks like a POTS telephone connected with an RJ-11 plug should work. Dunno if it would accept pulse dialing, haven't tried it. But so much calling requires DTMF signalling for navigating menus that pulse dialing has limited use today anyway. Corded handset and rotary [pulsed] dial are two completely different concepts. Fred Holmes At 06:39 PM 1/1/2010, Robert Carroll wrote: (1) Information about MagicJack is appreciated. It seems from the CU description that a corded handset is needed -- I might be able to find buried in a closet an old rotary-dial phone for MagicJack (if I decide to get same) since all my land-line phones are cordless. Can MagicJack understand pulse dialing? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
I have been using it for two plus years. Although I am in Brazil I have a Los Angeles phone number. Call and am called by my daughters and son there. Works very well. Sometimes it skips a word or something. But otherwise, great. Marcio -Original Message- From: Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 1, 2010 6:00 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question In the 2010 February issue of Consumer Reports, there are tests of 15 items sold on TV infomercials that use hard-sell language. As one may suspect, most items did not live up to the claims made therein. But one got a favorable review, the MagicJack for connecting to VoIP. The review follows below. I have only a general knowledge of VoIP. Can someone point me to a source that offers specific info so that I may decide if having VoIP is advantageous for me? The CU review: *The claim.* MagicJack, a VoIP (voice over Internet protocol) phone device and service,makes your monthly phone bill disappear, an online ad says. Save hundreds, even thousands, of dollars and get no more poor reception. You plug MagicJack into a computer's USB port, plug the line cord of your own phone into the other end of the USB adapter, and MagicJack uses the Internet to make and receive calls. You need broadband Internet access, and the computer has to be on for you to make or receive a call. If it's off, messages go to voice mail. The charge: $39.95 for the device and one year of local and long-distance calling; then $19.95 per year. Details are at www.magicjack.com. *The check.* One of our electronics experts made dozens of calls over several days, sometimes while downloading files or playing online computer games. *Bottom line*. Shazam! Calls connected, and voice quality was clear, though not as clear as on a good corded phone on a regular line. When our tester downloaded a big file while playing an online game and making a call, there was some interference. But if you can live with a few limitations, it's a great deal. Vonage VoIP service can cost $216 a year; Skype, $95, and you must buy a Skype phone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
No, I have a cordless phone. Of course I must connect the base with the cord at the MagicJack USB Connection. But this is all. Also I believe it has 911 because it warns me that because I am out of the USA the 911 will not work. Marcio -Original Message- From: Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 1, 2010 6:39 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question For my earlier message, a P.S. (1) Is there a source for info about VoIP in general, not just related to MagicJack. I am under the impression that only those who make many long-distance calls, especially international calls, can benefit from subscribing to VoIP since the cost of domestic long-distance calls is so cheap nowadays. (The web and email makes the need for long-distance calls less frequent for me.) What telephone number would someone use to call me on VoIP? (1) Information about MagicJack is appreciated. It seems from the CU description that a corded handset is needed -- I might be able to find buried in a closet an old rotary-dial phone for MagicJack (if I decide to get same) since all my land-line phones are cordless. Can MagicJack understand pulse dialing? On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.comwrote: In the 2010 February issue of Consumer Reports, there are tests of 15 items sold on TV infomercials that use hard-sell language. As one may suspect, most items did not live up to the claims made therein. But one got a favorable review, the MagicJack for connecting to VoIP. The review follows below. I have only a general knowledge of VoIP. Can someone point me to a source that offers specific info so that I may decide if having VoIP is advantageous for me? The CU review: *The claim.* MagicJack, a VoIP (voice over Internet protocol) phone device and service,makes your monthly phone bill disappear, an online ad says. Save hundreds, even thousands, of dollars and get no more poor reception. You plug MagicJack into a computer's USB port, plug the line cord of your own phone into the other end of the USB adapter, and MagicJack uses the Internet to make and receive calls. You need broadband Internet access, and the computer has to be on for you to make or receive a call. If it's off, messages go to voice mail. The charge: $39.95 for the device and one year of local and long-distance calling; then $19.95 per year. Details are at www.magicjack.com. *The check.* One of our electronics experts made dozens of calls over several days, sometimes while downloading files or playing online computer games. *Bottom line*. Shazam! Calls connected, and voice quality was clear, though not as clear as on a good corded phone on a regular line. When our tester downloaded a big file while playing an online game and making a call, there was some interference. But if you can live with a few limitations, it's a great deal. Vonage VoIP service can cost $216 a year; Skype, $95, and you must buy a Skype phone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
I have a Vtech cordless phone with two basis. Work fine. Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Jan 1, 2010 9:21 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question The most modern phone you have that works on POTS is a corded handset. I suspect one could also use a cordless handset, if one were to plug the base station into the MagicJack. (just as the base station is plugged into the RJ-11 wall outlet the same way that a corded handset is plugged into a wall outlet.) You just couldn't use a cordless handset by itself, without the base station. What the information is telling you is that the MagicJack does _not_ include its own handset. Nor does it use a headset (like Skype does). Nor does it use a USB speakerphone (like is available for Skype). It uses a POTS telephone, connected by the customary cord with an RJ-11 plug on the end. Anything that electrically looks like a POTS telephone connected with an RJ-11 plug should work. Dunno if it would accept pulse dialing, haven't tried it. But so much calling requires DTMF signalling for navigating menus that pulse dialing has limited use today anyway. Corded handset and rotary [pulsed] dial are two completely different concepts. Fred Holmes At 06:39 PM 1/1/2010, Robert Carroll wrote: (1) Information about MagicJack is appreciated. It seems from the CU description that a corded handset is needed -- I might be able to find buried in a closet an old rotary-dial phone for MagicJack (if I decide to get same) since all my land-line phones are cordless. Can MagicJack understand pulse dialing? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack
I am here in Brazil, I have a Los Angeles number where mu daughters are and we can call each other without having to pay by minute. They justcall my Los Angeles number... and I call their numbers. All included. Marcio -Original Message- From: Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow noodni...@aol.com Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:46 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack I've used one for a couple of years now. Generally it works very well although occasionally the sounds is a little garbled or a syllable may be dropped or I'll hear an echo. On rare occasion I'll have to call the party again and get a cleaner connection. I have Fios for internet connectivity. A relative in Boston has a DSL connection and there's more garbling or missing sounds than on my line. Then again, a friend in Columbia, MD has Comcast cable for his internet, and often calls that he places using the MagicJack are kind of garbled (sometimes sounds like he's under water). I believe that if you are doing much downloading or uploading during a conversation, that will will also degrade the voice quality. As far as 911 is concerned, yes you can place 911 calls, but I don't believe that the 911 folks can trace the call to your specific address. And of course (1) your computer has to be on at the time, and (2) you need electric power functioning in the house. For international calls, you have to open a prepaid account, to which you can add money as needed. But the calls are very cheap (Spain and England are about 2 cents/minute) and I've found them crystal clear -- even better than domestic calls. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
Yes, Fred I get the messages by e-mail and open them with Nero. I also cancall my number at MagicJack and listen to the messages and erase them. Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question Yes and no. If you leave your VOIP (e.g. MagicJack) always at one specific premises and register that premises with that telephone number at 911 (there is a process for doing this), then you will have reliable 911 service, just as landline numbers are registered with 911 (but the registration is done by the telephone company). But one of the advantages of MagicJack is that you can connect it to your notebook computer wherever you may carry and use it. There is no way (except manually) to change the 911 registration at present. There may be some way to do a lookup on the i.p. address of your computer, to determine where it is actually connected, but such a system hasn't yet (to my knowledge) been set up. If you connect your MagicJack to your notebook computer that is connected to the Internet anywhere (e.g., Iraq), calls that you place to the U.S. are free (no call placement or connection time charges) (unless for some reason VOIP packets are somehow killed.) It's also nice that voice mail messages received on VOIP systems can be sent to you by e-mail as .wav file attachments. Nice to be able to keep and file them, and not have the message memory fill up and overflow. Fred Holmes. At 06:13 PM 1/1/2010, Judy Cosler wrote: does one have reliable 911 with VoIP? thought one needed a landline for reliable, available 911. Pls. help me with this issue! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
Yes I do... I just want to keep my blog alive. I don´t know how to transfer my domain to GoDaddy especially because my blog is made with Goodle. My domain: www.drmarciovasconcellospinheiro.com I am worried. Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Dec 11, 2009 11:15 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:59 PM, db wrote: If it were me I would take control of your own domain. To do that request that you be made the admin contact for the future and that it be hosted directly by GoDaddy. Except that you really don't want to be hosted by GoDaddy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
Many, many thanks... I will try this again carefully to see if I get there. You know it is the first time I have done this. I am writing papewrs in my blog and I started this with google. Will let you know what will come out of this attempt following your advice. Thanks again Marcio -Original Message- From: db db...@att.net Sent: Dec 11, 2009 7:59 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? Marcio, That's because you didn't follow our directions (my directions ?) and contact the Administrative contact listed for your domain . Although the service was contracted by Google to a subsidiary of Go Daddy, the party administering your domain is not Google and it's not GoDaddy ... it's the subsidiary That Admin contact info for your domain is clearly listed on the WhoIs lookup.. Just do the WhoIs lookup again, call or email them and your renewal will be taken care of.They simply LOVE to have your money as far in advance as they can get it so that is not your problem. (They even give reduced rates for longer renewals...) If it were me I would take control of your own domain. To do that request that you be made the admin contact for the future and that it be hosted directly by GoDaddy. db Marcio wrote: Thanks to you all. The problem is that my registration will end in February, I like to keep my blog running and, so far, I did not find a way to renew it with Goggle or GoDaddy... Help Marcio -Original Message- From: Allen Firstenberg cg...@addventure.com Sent: Nov 18, 2009 1:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Marcio wrote: Thanks to both of you, each one in his own way and sorry for the misunderstandings. But to this date I have this Google Blogg with a domain that is good until Feb 13 and I am not sure if the domain will be renewed automatically, if Google will send me a notice to renew, or whatever. Again, you are not registered with Google. You are registered with GoDaddy. I am unaware that Google even offers that service. Be careful not to miss your renewal date as GoDaddy will charge you a big fee to get your registration back. Google does offer the service - in partnership with GoDaddy (or at least they do with the Google Apps service - and I assume they do with their blogging service too). They do say that the registration is with GoDaddy, although people who are unfamiliar with the domain registration process may not catch that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
Thanks to you all. The problem is that my registration will end in February, I like to keep my blog running and, so far, I did not find a way to renew it with Goggle or GoDaddy... Help Marcio -Original Message- From: Allen Firstenberg cg...@addventure.com Sent: Nov 18, 2009 1:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Marcio wrote: Thanks to both of you, each one in his own way and sorry for the misunderstandings. But to this date I have this Google Blogg with a domain that is good until Feb 13 and I am not sure if the domain will be renewed automatically, if Google will send me a notice to renew, or whatever. Again, you are not registered with Google. You are registered with GoDaddy. I am unaware that Google even offers that service. Be careful not to miss your renewal date as GoDaddy will charge you a big fee to get your registration back. Google does offer the service - in partnership with GoDaddy (or at least they do with the Google Apps service - and I assume they do with their blogging service too). They do say that the registration is with GoDaddy, although people who are unfamiliar with the domain registration process may not catch that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Please
I have one Linksys... but I don't have in the printer an entrance for the USB (the flat end). I only have an entrance for the square end that connects with the desktop computer. Many, many thanks... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 28, 2009 6:31 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Please He mis-spoke. Dongle is a term used for software anti-piracy devices. What he meant to ask is if you used a USB wifi receiver. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEDescription=usb%20wireless%20adapter On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: What is exactly a USB Wifi dongle? Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 28, 2009 9:25 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Please On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Marcio wrote: I gave up trying to connect my laptop to the network where I have a desktop connected to a Epson Printer (network). Oh, the joys of having a PeeCee. I would not give up so quickly as that is really your best option. Have you tried getting a USB WiFi dongle? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Please
Sorry, but the Epson Network printer doesn't have a entrance for the flat USB cable end. It has an entrance only for the other end, the square one... the flat one is going to the desktop computer... Many thanks! Marcio -Original Message- From: mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 28, 2009 6:28 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Please A usb device that has a wifi antenna attached. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEDEPA=0Order=BESTMATCHDescription=usb+wifi+donglex=0y=0 On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: What is exactly a USB Wifi dongle? Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 28, 2009 9:25 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Please On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Marcio wrote: I gave up trying to connect my laptop to the network where I have a desktop connected to a Epson Printer (network). Oh, the joys of having a PeeCee. I would not give up so quickly as that is really your best option. Have you tried getting a USB WiFi dongle? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] I do everything right and...
Still struggling with the lap top printing with the print that is connected to the desktop (Epson Network Printer). I installed the drivers with the network drivers too in both computers. It has a long name Epson WorkForce 310... I share the Epson in the dsktop and in the laptop. I tehn try to add the printer connected to the desktop to the printers in the laptop. I find it with this address: \\CHR-PC\epson workforce 310. When I try to add Windows askes me if I wrote the address right because it can't reach it. I am using Vista in both computers ( I think the one in the destop is home premium and the one in the laptop is not. I have tried to shorten the name. Both computers are in the network WORKGROUP. Any thing I could do diferently before I go ou and buy a Printer Serve for 100?... Thanks for your patience. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Please
I am so sorry for taking so much of your time. The problem is that the router is in another room where the TV is... and the Network Epson will connect to it only via cable (it is not wireless). Pain Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 27, 2009 6:19 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Please If you hook it up to the router it becomes wifi, if the router is wifi. Stewart At 06:45 PM 11/27/2009, you wrote: I gave up trying to connect my laptop to the network where I have a desktop connected to a Epson Printer (network). Just was not able to do it. Now my next choice is to connect the printer to the wireless network. It had a cable connection. Can I use some kind of Wi-fi to hook the printer to the wireless network so that both computer can use it? Please advise. Many, many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Please
What is exactly a USB Wifi dongle? Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 28, 2009 9:25 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Please On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Marcio wrote: I gave up trying to connect my laptop to the network where I have a desktop connected to a Epson Printer (network). Oh, the joys of having a PeeCee. I would not give up so quickly as that is really your best option. Have you tried getting a USB WiFi dongle? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Please
I gave up trying to connect my laptop to the network where I have a desktop connected to a Epson Printer (network). Just was not able to do it. Now my next choice is to connect the printer to the wireless network. It had a cable connection. Can I use some kind of Wi-fi to hook the printer to the wireless network so that both computer can use it? Please advise. Many, many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
Google say is GoDaddy, Goddy said to mr to write to Google. No answer... I am learning...What should I do to keep the blogg? Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 18, 2009 3:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? On Nov 16, 2009, at 10:24 PM, Marcio wrote: How do I make sure to renew the domain for another year? I can´t find my way going Google. Where do I go so that they don´t take me off? This is a good lesson in making sure you know who your registrar really is. If one party hands you off to another party it can get mighty hard to determine who is responsible. Blogger says... You can buy a domain from the Settings | Publishing tab,. Just select the Custom Domain option, enter the domain name you'd like and click Check Availability. This will take you to the Google Apps domain purchase website, which will let you know if the domain is available and proceed with the registration if it is. Finally, you'll go to Google Checkout where you'll make your payment. Your domain is registered with one of our registration partners, either eNom or GoDaddy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
Thanks to both of you, each one in his own way and sorry for the misunderstandings. But to this date I have this Google Blogg with a domain that is good until Feb 13 and I am not sure if the domain will be renewed automatically, if Google will send me a notice to renew, or whatever. If anyone can help... Marcio -Original Message- From: Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 18, 2009 9:07 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? At 08:37 PM 11/17/2009, you wrote: Date:Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:00 -0500 From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: How do I renew my domain? On Nov 17, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Rich Schinnell wrote: Whois is a great place to start. http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp But not a great place to end. NetSol tends to charge much higher rates and doesn't offer services to match. Tom, Whatever gave you the notion that I was recommending NetSol for his site. I gave him the url for the Whois where he could figure out the information necessary for him to move or whatever he wanted to do with his domain. It is no wonder many people get disgusted with your negative comments. I don't respond many times as I don't have the time to screw around with negative people. I enjoy life too much to waste my time with negativity. Additionally I presently receive this in a digest form but now I have to change it so that I can automatically put all the individual messages from tjpa and tomp and whatever email address you seem to be using at the moment in the junk folder and not have to worry about all the negativity. Rich Schinnell * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
But I can´t get in touch with GoDaddy...or when I thought I did, they did not answer me... Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 18, 2009 10:32 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Marcio wrote: Thanks to both of you, each one in his own way and sorry for the misunderstandings. But to this date I have this Google Blogg with a domain that is good until Feb 13 and I am not sure if the domain will be renewed automatically, if Google will send me a notice to renew, or whatever. Again, you are not registered with Google. You are registered with GoDaddy. I am unaware that Google even offers that service. Be careful not to miss your renewal date as GoDaddy will charge you a big fee to get your registration back. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
Many thanks. My blogg I have done through Google but it was registered by Godaddy in a partnership... Marcio -Original Message- From: Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 18, 2009 10:43 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? If you have paid for this web site you should get notified it is up for renewal. Some of these blogs are registered and done by the hosting company. Stewart thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
I go to GoDaddy and I have an account there but the domain of my blog is not registered with them. It is registered by Google in a partnership with them. At Godaddy they say that I don´t have a domain that needs to be renewed in the next 90 days... When I enter my domain they say it is taken. I guess I will have to go through Google Blogger?... -Original Message- From: db db...@att.net Sent: Nov 18, 2009 4:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? Go Daddy Live 24/7 Sales Support (480)505-8877 http://www.godaddy.com/community/community.aspx?ci=16292 I have found their US based support to be pretty good. Or you can renew it online in GoDaddy's Domain control panel: https://www.godaddy.com/ Use your email address to login and if you don't know your password, you can reset it using your email address. Although you say you set your blog up thru Google is sounds like someone may have done that for you. If so, you may need their help again... db Marcio wrote: But I can´t get in touch with GoDaddy...or when I thought I did, they did not answer me... Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 18, 2009 10:32 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain? On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Marcio wrote: Thanks to both of you, each one in his own way and sorry for the misunderstandings. But to this date I have this Google Blogg with a domain that is good until Feb 13 and I am not sure if the domain will be renewed automatically, if Google will send me a notice to renew, or whatever. Again, you are not registered with Google. You are registered with GoDaddy. I am unaware that Google even offers that service. Be careful not to miss your renewal date as GoDaddy will charge you a big fee to get your registration back. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?
Hi my friends I hav a blogg: http://www.drmarciovasconcellospinheiro.com (in Brazilian Portuguese). I have bought this domain through Goggle, for the period of one year ending in Feb 7, 2010. How do I make sure to renew the domain for another year? I can´t find my way going Google. Where do I go so that they don´t take me off? Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Word 7 to word 3
Here I am good guys. I sent to myself through e-mail a text I wrote in MS Word 7. O Tried to open with MS Word 3 and this was what I got: PK ! Ýü•7f [Content_Types].xml ¢ ( ´TËnÂ0 ¼Wê?D¾V‰¡‡ªª ú8¶H¥¬`ì XõKöòúûn DU A*å )YïÌììăÑÚšl1iïJÖ/z, '½ÒnV²ÉK~ϲ„Â)a¼ƒ’m ±Ñðúj0Ù H u»T²9bxàÉ9X‘ ¬ÀQ¥òÑ ¤×8ãAÈO1 ~ÛëÝqé ‚Ã k * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] This brings me to another question...
Now, that is really funny... Betty´s original poster with the words in Portuguese was just fine. Now the Rev. writes a poster and repeats what Betty wrote and you can see the accents are garbled...(see down there) Puzzling! Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 2, 2009 10:30 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] This brings me to another question... Jawhol. Stewart At 09:13 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com escribió: I usually write in brazilian portuguese some e-mails. Here in Brazil we hace accents such as ´ ` ^ ~. When I write words with the accents they appear all garbled out... and also when I receive e-mail in my Eudora from Brazilian friends. Where do they come from? When writing with special characters and accents in Western European languages, select Unicode [UTF-8] for Character Encoding. It's a choice usually in the Options, View, or Message menu. For non-Roman characters, select the language or alphabet you're using, like Greek (ISO-8859-7), or Cyrillic (KOI8-R), etc. Does the accent in _escribió_ appear in this message? How about here: A esperança é a última a morrer. A palavra é de prata e o silêncio é de ouro. As palavras são como as cerejas. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
-Original Message- From: Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 2, 2009 2:36 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 At 01:41 AM 11/2/2009 -0200, you wrote: Sue you can still download Eudora 7 from the site www.eudora.com. And if you have your serial number you can make it a paid copy. Marcio Yes, I'm using 7.1.0.9, paid copy. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Me too... Not to send this e-mail. For this one I am using Earthlink Web Mail. Works fine. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
But I can access it from any place/computer... Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 2, 2009 2:56 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI... earthlink. is pop. Stewart At 10:06 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Sounds like it. db Marcio wrote: I have Earthlink webmail and I can access my e-mail from any computer anywhere. Even if I send some to the trash they will remain there until I decide to delete them. Is this IMAP? But in my Eudora at home I have a internet server (Terra) and Eudora gets the mail and tehy don´t remain on the server. POP? Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage
Sue, we are in the same boat. Eudora 7 and Earthlink. I am using Earthlink webmail from Belo Horizonte, Brazil. And I use Eudora with a Brazilian e-mail provider... Both work great form me. But let me say that I had to change this group to earthlink because for some reason the Brazilian Terra was skipping many messages.. I was in Baltimore recently and was in Earthlink web mail all the time... Terra also has a web mail: www.terra.com.br For me this is fine! Marcio -Original Message- From: Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 2, 2009 10:15 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] online storage At 09:51 AM 11/2/2009 -0500, you wrote: Don't fall for this. The person claimed he needed to read his emails when he wasn't online. I pointed out the fallacy involved. Namely, that if he had a job that *really* required this, he could get cell coverage over most of the country. Of course, it turned out he really has no such need, and is just using that as yet another excuse to cling to his old email app. You have no idea what his needs are. I don't travel into areas with no internet coverage very often, but when I do, it can indeed be a dead zone, with poor cell coverage. I certainly don't travel there often enough to contract for cell coverage at _any_ monthly rate! I think the good Rev lives in the midwest, which is where I have family and go maybe a couple times per year. There is NO ISP available _at all_, unless you want to sign up with the local phone co for a year-long contract, or even a monthly contract. That is one of the reasons I stick with Earthlink, who has an 800 dialup available for an as-needed price, if all else fails. Why don't all of you just lay off those of us who have searched and found the best solutions to our individual situations? We're not trying to convince you to change your way of doing things. Just know that you are not in everyman's situation. Until you get outside of your privileged environments, you cannot speak for every situation. I have available every hi-tek thing known to man when I'm at home, but when I travel, it is entirely different. Maybe it all depends on where one travels? BTW--cell coverage in my home area is very spotty, due to the very hilly/treed terrain. Within a 6 mile trip, I regulary lose coverage at least twice. I have NO cell reception at my summer home. I'm not complaining--wouldn't trade that place for all the cell coverage in the world. I've simply found a workaround for the problems I encounter. Your system wouldn't work for me. Sue--upstate NY * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
I have Earthlink webmail and I can access my e-mail from any computer anywhere. Even if I send some to the trash they will remain there until I decide to delete them. Is this IMAP? But in my Eudora at home I have a internet server (Terra) and Eudora gets the mail and tehy don´t remain on the server. POP? Marcio -Original Message- From: db db...@att.net Sent: Nov 1, 2009 9:16 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI... IMAP keeps a copy of all your mail and folders on the server so you can access all of it from multiple machines and webmail. POP doesn't. In most cases POP moves the mail to your computer each time you get your mail. IMAP costs more therefore. But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper than Earthlink or ATT give you POP. db Marcio wrote: Now, here I have an important question: what is the difference between POP and MAPI... Eudora gives me this choice... Will love to know. Many thanks Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 1, 2009 12:13 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] online storage On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I do have email on my phone (no more smartphone) but when I do a local download at home, poof there goes those email messages, plus the attachments and such are not available. (I get important documents that way, plus info) Stop using POP! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Sue you can still download Eudora 7 from the site www.eudora.com. And if you have your serial number you can make it a paid copy. Marcio -Original Message- From: Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 At 01:46 PM 11/1/2009 -0500, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Marcio wrote: I have asked and I repeat... what is a better alternative today? Or at least comparable?... And mind you I do use web mail too... Can't say because our EFBs have not articulated any serious reasons for sticking with Eudora. The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in pink backgrounds with yellow writing (stationeries) and animated smilies! I'd like to know what others think an email program _should do_ that Eudora doesn't. Long ago I switched from IE to (first) Mozilla and then Firefox. Initially it was because of all the pop-ups that couldn't be controlled within IE, and I saw no reason to install a pop-up blocker in IE when one was built in to Firefox. I switched from Norton AV to AVG because I ended up with all kinds of problems with Norton. I'll never put it on another machine I am associated with. AVG has never given me any problems and the price is good. :) I also run Avast on another machine, mainly because I wanted to compare AVG and Avast, and am happy with that also. I see no reason to switch either of those. I do have Thunderbird installed on a machine, mainly so that I can guide others with its use. It appears to be a fine program too, although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of real Eudora. I haven't really searched, but does T'Bird have the colored labels? I use that feature in Eudora quite often. I also like the 'trainable' junk feature--much simpler than setting up filters, and it works very well. If Eudora quits working, I guess I'll have no choice but to switch. Until then, I see no good reason to do it. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Is Eudora for Mac the same as for PC? Have you really used it? Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 1, 2009 9:07 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Incorrect. I am just comparing Eudora to the email client I use daily, the one I know best. Don't forget that Eudora runs on Macs too. You could convince me to switch, but you are not doing a very good job of it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Yes, but they do what Eudora does?... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 31, 2009 8:27 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 Right. The correct answer to everything in this whole thread is that local email clients are yesterday's news. Well, for anyone with broadband anyway. Once browsers became capable of running email as quickly as any other local client, there suddenly weren't too many good reasons not to do it that way. Cloud storage of emails is a slightly different subject, but it's tough to deny it's safer than local storage these days. I just recently upgraded to Win7. Total downtime to move my mail: zero. As soon as I had a browser, I had email. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:58 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: a web account anyway. I keep everything I can on the cloud, I have no need to keep email local. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Yes, but web mail does what Eudora does? Marcio -Original Message- From: mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 31, 2009 12:12 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 I used it for years, switched to Thunderbird and then Outlook and now because of crappy dsl I stick to web mail. On Oct 30, 2009 8:55 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Did you ever used it? What you would replace it with? Marcio -Original Message- From: mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 30, 2009 6:45 PM To: COMPUTER... On Oct 30, 2009 1:43 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I am trying Eudora 8m Beta 7 from ... Marcio * ** List info, subsc... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
What was the best part of Eudora Rev.? Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Sent: Oct 31, 2009 2:23 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 As far as I am concerned the best parts of Eudora they stripped out of it when it went 8 and I am still using 7. Stewart At 10:51 PM 10/30/2009, you wrote: I have used Eudora for years and years. So far I have not crossed anything like it. When I do I guess I will change. In my opinion Mozilla could keep it as it was without any need to improve. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
These kinds of things make me love Eudora more... Marcio -Original Message- From: Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net Sent: Oct 31, 2009 1:53 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 At 09:43 AM 10/31/2009 -0500, you wrote: I sometimes end up in places and areas with no Internet connection (HORRORS? Yes Virginia there are still places like that) In that case I do not need the net because I have my email messages and can look one up if I need to. Cloud storage might be good and secure (?) But it is dependent on having a connection. Not real bright. I use a flash drive and a little program called EZ Back it Up to back up certain files daily. Initially, I added all of my mailbox files. It runs on a scheduler, or can be run manually. It overwrites changed files only. I have certain Eudora mailboxes included in this automatic backup. I'm lucky to get a 14,400 dialup connection at my summer house (no cable or DSL there). Web sites take forever to load. It is faster for me to download the mail, go offline to read/reply, and go back online to send. Also I'm not tying up the phone line this way. It's nice to have choices to suit one's purpose! Unless I lose the flash drive, I'm OK. :) Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
You are all convincing me to keep my Eudora 7 Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Oct 31, 2009 3:09 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 On Oct 31, 2009, at 11:59 AM, mike wrote: I don't keep anything on flash I don't fully expect to lose. OMG, sometimes Mike is right. Although today's flash drives are less fragile than those of old, they will from time to time lose all their contents. While all media will eventually fail, the unacceptable thing about flash drives is the ease with which this can happen. A little bit of static electricity or pulling the unit out of the USB socket at the wrong moment and your data is toast. You should never keep your only copy on a flash drive. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I have asked and I repeat... what is a better alternative today? Or at least comparable?... And mind you I do use web mail too... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 31, 2009 3:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 I was a huge Eudora fan in a different era. It did nothing but email, but it did it very well, very intuitively. Certainly in the PC software all time hall of fame. Remember, often the alternative was Outlook. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:39 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: What is it that only Eudora does that keeps its fans so devoted? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Try it... you still can download Eudora 7. Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Oct 31, 2009 3:39 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Marcio wrote: Yes, but web mail does what Eudora does? What is it that only Eudora does that keeps its fans so devoted? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I have tried Tbird... not the same. Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Oct 31, 2009 7:30 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: The times I tried installing Tbird I could not do that. Not fair to blame TBird for that! I have installed it many times for many clients on both Macs and Windows. Never a problem. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I have mail boxes for e-mails that can be accessed very easily. I can enter a name and Eudora will give me all e-mails that contain that name... I can use filters that work and are easy to set. And so on... Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Sent: Oct 31, 2009 5:04 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 Rules setting (for filters etc.) are very easy. Never changes always know where to find it. Rules are easily edited also. We have mentioned the fact about the attachments. It does not try and be your contact manager, your calendar keeper or anything else, it is simply your email manager. Those are just some of the things I can think of off the top of my head. Stewart At 12:39 PM 10/31/2009, you wrote: On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Marcio wrote: Yes, but web mail does what Eudora does? What is it that only Eudora does that keeps its fans so devoted? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] POP and MAPI...
Now, here I have an important question: what is the difference between POP and MAPI... Eudora gives me this choice... Will love to know. Many thanks Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 1, 2009 12:13 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] online storage On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I do have email on my phone (no more smartphone) but when I do a local download at home, poof there goes those email messages, plus the attachments and such are not available. (I get important documents that way, plus info) Stop using POP! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I am trying Eudora 8m Beta 7 from Mozzila. It looks very good. Is this your impression too? Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I saw a lot of similarities with my old Eudora. Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Sent: Oct 30, 2009 8:28 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 It has this is as much Eudora as the modern ATT is the old ATT. Stewart At 03:45 PM 10/30/2009, you wrote: My feeling is someone should let Eudora die. On Oct 30, 2009 1:43 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I am trying Eudora 8m Beta 7 from Mozzila. It looks very good. Is this your impression too? Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
I have used Eudora for years and years. So far I have not crossed anything like it. When I do I guess I will change. In my opinion Mozilla could keep it as it was without any need to improve. Marcio -Original Message- From: Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net Sent: Oct 30, 2009 8:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 At 01:45 PM 10/30/2009 -0700, you wrote: My feeling is someone should let Eudora die. Hush! We all know they're not developing or changing it anymore, but as long as it works, there are die-hard fans. It is a GOOD email program. Personally I don't want all the html junk that comes with most email programs. Eudora has great controls that no other email program has ever equaled, the main one being that attachments are detached from the emails so you don't have to keep a ton of mail in order to save attachments. On Oct 30, 2009 1:43 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I am trying Eudora 8m Beta 7 from Mozzila. It looks very good. Is this your impression too? If you really want to try using Eudora, go get Eudora 7.1.0.9--the last version of real Eudora. Download it and ask here for a key to upgrade it to the paid version. (Eudora is not for sale anymore). The keys are given for free now. You could also try Thunderbird with the Penelope extension, which is closer to the old Eudora than the newer Eudora8. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
Did you ever used it? What you would replace it with? Marcio -Original Message- From: mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 30, 2009 6:45 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 My feeling is someone should let Eudora die. On Oct 30, 2009 1:43 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I am trying Eudora 8m Beta 7 from Mozzila. It looks very good. Is this your impression too? Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
I appreciate your comment/advice. It makes good sense. But let me reassure you that I believe I know how far I can go before this jeopardizes my well being/work... Besides, trying to understand what goes wrong with humans (my work) sometimes has some things in common with computers... Both require patience and a willingness to suspend judgement while you gather more data... In the case of this computer, yes I will take in consideration your view: it may not be recoverable... Marcio -Original Message- From: db db...@att.net Sent: Oct 27, 2009 2:01 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... There is no end to the fixing you have set yourself up for Marcio. Computers aren't simple things like bicycles that just anyone can tinker with / cadge together willy nilly. Your training is in a whole different realm and you will never get to the bottom of this mess machine you have concocted. Don't you have a shrink you can consult about your harmful repeated self-inflicted tech issue? (I'm saying this with humor and good will but I am serious at the same time...) db Marcio wrote: Hi folks Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... Thanks in advance. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
She is looking into one... Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Oct 27, 2009 1:32 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:01 AM, db wrote: Computers aren't simple things like bicycles that just anyone can tinker with / cadge together willy nilly. Maybe you daughter will let you use her Mac? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] The fun never ends...
Hi folks Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... Thanks in advance. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
I think so but I will ask the people at the shop. -Original Message- From: Ellen Rains Harris el...@goodshiptabasco.com Sent: Oct 27, 2009 12:56 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... Did you put a fan or a heat sink on the new processor? - Original Message - From: Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... Hi folks Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... Thanks in advance. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
Will ask the people at the shop... After changing the CPU and erasing theboot drive plus reintalling WXP... I am where I started. They told me that they could not install a graphics board when I tried Windows Vista... So they went back to XP... and the same problem... Now I dream about the computetr at night... Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Oct 27, 2009 1:13 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... Are all of the fans working properly? Is the heatsink properly attached (with heat transfer grease) to the CPU? Anything blocking airflow anywhere? Have you added goodies inside the case so that the power supply is no longer adequate? Fred Holmes At 10:24 PM 10/26/2009, Marcio wrote: Hi folks Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... Thanks in advance. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Tricky things...
Yes, I will have to do this... but the first time I tried I found it quite complicated... Poor me... Why don´t I just buy a Dell? Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Oct 24, 2009 10:23 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Tricky things... When was the manual written? Likely it pre-dates the release version of Win 7. I'd check the board manufacturer's web site. You might be able to download Win7 drivers for motherboard feature from the Asus web site. Fred Holmes At 11:56 PM 10/23/2009, Marcio wrote: As I prepare for my new computer I bought an ASUS Mobo P5Q PRO TURBO. I am ready to by an OEM Windows 7 Professional. Then I read in the Mobo Manual that it will work with Windows XP and Vista. No 7 there... Where do I go from here? Anxious... Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Tricky things...
Price and Pentium Dual... It is enough for me. Marcio -Original Message- From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 24, 2009 8:03 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Tricky things... Why are you opting for Win7 Pro instead of the cheaper Home Premium? You may have a problem with the 64 bit drivers for the board, but at this point they should be included or available for download. Well, wait. As I look at that board, I see it's an older one. Why would you put this into your own new computer??? On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Quoting Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com: As I prepare for my new computer I bought an ASUS Mobo P5Q PRO TURBO. I am ready to by an OEM Windows 7 Professional. Then I read in the Mobo Manual that it will work with Windows XP and Vista. No 7 there... Where do I go from here? Nowhere. The manual probably was written befoe Win7 came out (especially since you got you parts before Win7 came out) so knows nothing of it's existence. I suspect it'll work just fine with Win7. I also suspect it'll work just fine with Win 2000, Win 98 Win ME, Win 3.1, and even plain old DOS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Tricky things...
This is indeed good news... Willlet you all know. Marcio -Original Message- From: Reid Katan ka...@his.com Sent: Oct 24, 2009 2:14 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Tricky things... Quoting Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com: As I prepare for my new computer I bought an ASUS Mobo P5Q PRO TURBO. I am ready to by an OEM Windows 7 Professional. Then I read in the Mobo Manual that it will work with Windows XP and Vista. No 7 there... Where do I go from here? Nowhere. The manual probably was written befoe Win7 came out (especially since you got you parts before Win7 came out) so knows nothing of it's existence. I suspect it'll work just fine with Win7. I also suspect it'll work just fine with Win 2000, Win 98 Win ME, Win 3.1, and even plain old DOS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Learning Mac...
My daughter is a school teacher. She knows very well how to work with PCs. She has a PC laptop. Now in her new school they only have Macs, for teachers and students. I am not sure she should buy a Mac but she says that she doesn´t know how to work with them. Is there a school or a place where she can learn? Perhaps in an Apple Store? Thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Tricky things...
As I prepare for my new computer I bought an ASUS Mobo P5Q PRO TURBO. I am ready to by an OEM Windows 7 Professional. Then I read in the Mobo Manual that it will work with Windows XP and Vista. No 7 there... Where do I go from here? Anxious... Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Windows 7 the question...
Just a simples question: can I upgrade to Windows 7 on the top of my XP Professional?... Again thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Tricky Eudora Question...
Hi I solved the problem. First I went to a previous version of Eudora. Then I looked carefully at the upper bar and I found the sender column there, hided. Opened it. Then I went back to the latest version... and the sender column was there. Now I am not sure if I missed the small line in this latest version in the first place and was unable to open it... Back in business...until the next problem... I amnow buying the parts to have my new computer with Windows 7. Yes, I know that a Dell would be better. But I enjoy putting one together... Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Oct 21, 2009 12:14 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Tricky Eudora Question... Under Tools = Options = Mailboxes the dialog has checkboxes for the columns to be shown in the table of contents for the mailboxes, but it's apparently one dialog that applies to all mailboxes. You might try changing one of the columns in that dialog and then changing it back to see if it resets the columns being displayed. I know I can individually adjust by dragging the column widths in each TOC independently/separately, so they can/do differ from one mailbox to the next. The .toc file itself is not an ASCII file, so there is no easy way to hack it. If you know how to use Usenet Newsgroups, comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows is likely to provide you with an answer. Or the equivalent Mac group, if you are running Eudora on the Mac OS. Fred Holmes At 09:10 PM 10/20/2009, Marcio wrote: Thanks Fred. I tried this. No I did not find the senders squeezed there. Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Oct 20, 2009 7:14 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Tricky Eudora Question... I'd try dragging the column boundary where the missing column should be, as if the column boundary had been dragged to close the column to zero width, and your dragging would open up the width again. Standard procedure for restoring a lost column in any Windows window. Fred Holmes At 04:34 PM 10/20/2009, Marcio wrote: Hi people I continue to be an Eudora fan and I keep using Eudora 7. Now I got into a problem. My Junk mail doesnôt have the senderôs addresses column. It has everything else, inclusing the subject. My regular mail has the senderôs column. I reinstalled Eudora but the situation remains the same. How can I bring back the senders address in my junk mail? Many, many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Tricky Eudora Question...
Hi people I continue to be an Eudora fan and I keep using Eudora 7. Now I got into a problem. My Junk mail doesn´t have the sender´s addresses column. It has everything else, inclusing the subject. My regular mail has the sender´s column. I reinstalled Eudora but the situation remains the same. How can I bring back the senders address in my junk mail? Many, many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Tricky Eudora Question...
Thanks Fred. I tried this. No I did not find the senders squeezed there. Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Oct 20, 2009 7:14 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Tricky Eudora Question... I'd try dragging the column boundary where the missing column should be, as if the column boundary had been dragged to close the column to zero width, and your dragging would open up the width again. Standard procedure for restoring a lost column in any Windows window. Fred Holmes At 04:34 PM 10/20/2009, Marcio wrote: Hi people I continue to be an Eudora fan and I keep using Eudora 7. Now I got into a problem. My Junk mail doesn´t have the sender´s addresses column. It has everything else, inclusing the subject. My regular mail has the sender´s column. I reinstalled Eudora but the situation remains the same. How can I bring back the senders address in my junk mail? Many, many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Oh, my...partitions...
Thank you Tom. I used an old Partition Magic to resolve the partition issue. Version 7. Worked fine! Insofar as administrator I am not sure what to do but I noticed that when I enter in Safe Windows they gave me a choice of Administrator or Marcio. But when I go straight it is only Marcio and I am the administrator. I enjoy these things... up to a point... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: Oct 12, 2009 11:11 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Oh, my...partitions... On Oct 12, 2009, at 2:24 AM, Marcio wrote: My computer came back from the shop and is working OK. But the guys made me the user and the administrator, which I don´t like. First question: is there a way to separate these two after WindowsXP is installed? That is the typical way to set it up. The shop has probably learned the hard way that setting Windows up more securely causes lots of customer complaints. So they set it up the way that is simplest for an unsophisticated user to use. Not secure, but easy to use. You can easily add another user and make that user the default login. For best security don't make that user an administrator. On Oct 12, 2009, at 2:24 AM, Marcio wrote: Then they placed a partition in C: which I also don´t like.I went into disk management and was able to delete what was there after I transfered it to C:. But, what a pain, I have not been able to delete the partition that is there as unalocated space... The question? How do I delete this partition and have just the large c: drive NTFS? Disk management will let you easily change the size of a partition. I don't know how safe it is to do it, after all it is a M$ product. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Oh, my...partitions...
I tried that but I ended up with unassigned space..., not a partition. I had to use Partition Magic to add it to C: Marcio -Original Message- From: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. acker...@astrecg.com Sent: Oct 12, 2009 12:16 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Oh, my...partitions... Either in Control Panel OR Accessories/System Choose Computer Administration or Administration Tools (version dependent). Administer computer (about the next to last item). Disk management. Choose your disk and adjust the active partition to use the whole drive. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: 10/12/2009 10:12 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Oh, my...partitions... On Oct 12, 2009, at 2:24 AM, Marcio wrote: My computer came back from the shop and is working OK. But the guys made me the user and the administrator, which I don´t like. First question: is there a way to separate these two after WindowsXP is installed? That is the typical way to set it up. The shop has probably learned the hard way that setting Windows up more securely causes lots of customer complaints. So they set it up the way that is simplest for an unsophisticated user to use. Not secure, but easy to use. You can easily add another user and make that user the default login. For best security don't make that user an administrator. On Oct 12, 2009, at 2:24 AM, Marcio wrote: Then they placed a partition in C: which I also don´t like.I went into disk management and was able to delete what was there after I transfered it to C:. But, what a pain, I have not been able to delete the partition that is there as unalocated space... The question? How do I delete this partition and have just the large c: drive NTFS? Disk management will let you easily change the size of a partition. I don't know how safe it is to do it, after all it is a M$ product. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Fossil
I definitelly am becoming a fossil. I am in Baltimore. I came with my Casio Electronic Agenda and even better my Palm 500 electronic agenda with charger and all. Looked for upgrades for these gadgets. Guess what... they don't make them any longer... can't find them anywhere... Now, how do I move around from now on with the data I have in these gadgets?... Addresses, passwords, username and all of that? Lost! Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Jeff you got me interested. Don´t be impressed by statistics and be careful with the information you get from the Internet. Talk with your doctor. Cardiology is a branch of medicine that is growing a lot and you will never know what is coming next. My advice: if you are feeling good live life to the fullest, enjoy each minute of it, and let diseases become bigger than they deserve. Insofar as health care. I guess you fell into the Medicaid support network? I am not sure in which State you live but people who who receive Medicaid, as a rule have pretty good services. Of course, as you know, it is a socialized program, the tax payers (Federal and State) share the costs. The problem are the people who can´t receive Medicaid because they are not considered poor (there is a scale to determine who is elegible). People who earn more that the minimum required, are not above 65 years old (another socialized program) and have no insurance public or private. They are a large number. They are people who lost their jobs, people who developped a disease and are no longer accepted in new insurance, people who are afraid of changind jobs for fear of losing their insurance. They are many! When I discuss in favor of the Singloe Payer I am saying that everyone should take the risks and have access. If you lump Medicaid, Medicare, VA, ald all other health care programs in one... the burden in the citizen will be minimal and everyone will have access. Hope you understand. Live life to the fullest. It goes lasts such a short time... Marcio -Original Message- From: Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Sent: Sep 8, 2009 8:59 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... ? where you been Marcio? I Thought that what I've been doing all along. Though many of those views are well received. I need to explain a few things here. I suffer from congestive heart failure. From what I could find my survival rate was 13% after being diagnosed for the first 5 years. I'm on year 6.5 and feeling ok. I had no insurance when I initially went to the clinic and then the doctor. I spent about 5 minutes filling out paperwork. That was the first time. In the hospital I spent no time filling out anything. Everything got filled out for me. By who I don't know. But now I get all my meds for free. I also get food stamps at $200/mo which I rarely use. I never asked for them. But what the hell. I even got a letter from the state questioning why I wasn't using them. And to further explain the story, I started getting $97/mo and then got a letter saying I needed $174/mo. If I had problems with this I could ask for a review and debate the the decision. A couple of months later they uped it to $200/mo, It came with the same proviso that I could challenge this if I thought it wasn't enough. Like I said earlier, I eat steak twice a week. I try and find new recipes for the chicken, fish and pork the rest of the week. I think us wants me to be obese. I could live on Top Raman and a ham sandwich or two for most any week. I should look more closely at the king crab legs. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Marcio wrote: Share you views and perceptions Jeff. Marcio -Original Message- From: Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Sent: Sep 7, 2009 7:39 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Sorry to say, but you sound like the guy who sits on his porch and yells at the kids for being on his lawn. I don't know this for sure, but I'm guessing the mail carriers aren't allowed to actually put something in your home. So using the mail slot probably isn't a legal option for them. I do know for sure that only the USPS is allowed to use your mail box. This is why you get things from pizza companies and others hanging on your door knob. As for the signing for things. Would you be complaining if they left something important that was then stolen by some sleaze bag? You always have the option of not picking up the package or letter that need a signature. And when it comes to the postal employee pay, I don't think they get paid enough. The employees at all the postal stations in my area are some of the friendliest people I've met. I know I couldn't do their job and remain that friendly. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:29 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: Regularly, I get other people's mail delivered to my home. On some occasions, it has been outgoing mail that the mail carrier has picked up at someone else's home. The mail may arrive at any time from 10:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., which says that they don't have a standard, routine manner
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora
I hope it stays around for a good while. I love it. Why doesn´t Mozilla works on it without changing it too much? CanI sent a suggestion to them? Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net Sent: Sep 6, 2009 7:02 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora N! I still use the last Eudora put out by Qualcomm. The one put out by Mozilla (The Penelope Project) is just not the same. It just not operate as nicely nor do the folders work as nicely. I have used it but I stick with the old Eudora. Stewart At 04:44 PM 9/6/2009, you wrote: I am still using the last upgrade of Eudora. Anyone with me? I went to Mozilla and they naw have a Beta Eudora... Should I try? Regards to all Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora
Can we arite Moxilla and ask them to do just this? Keep Eudora? Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:09 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora It's my understanding that the new Eudora is not Eudora at all, but a completely independent program that has either purchased or been given the Eudora name. For that reason, I haven't tried it. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has. I happen to like the Qualcomm Eudora interface very much. I would love an updated version that fixes bugs and adds useful features, without breaking all of the settings I already have, including general settings, address book with group addresses, filters, etc. I have a large array of mailboxes (pigeonholes) and filters to automatically direct incoming messages to the appropriate mailbox. Fred Holmes At 05:44 PM 9/6/2009, Marcio wrote: I am still using the last upgrade of Eudora. Anyone with me? I went to Mozilla and they naw have a Beta Eudora... Should I try? Regards to all Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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-Original Message- From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 1:52 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... I was taught many years ago, that the more doctors you have in a region the higher the prices. Doctors do not compete, they judge one another on the amount they make. So if one doctor raises prices, all of them will to stay even. Could you imagine what would happen if Doctors advertised and actually competed? Come see Dr. X we only charge XX for a regular visit. We also offer a money back guarantee!! The Lasik and laser eye surgery market is very competitive and you know the prices going in. They advertise heavily and compete with one another. Word of mouth referrals carry a great deal of weight. I personally know several people who have had these procedures done and all were very happy with the price and the results. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * I will never undergo such a procedure. Even if the risk is minimal. When it goes wrong it goes wrong for life. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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You sound like healthy is a permanent state Jeff. O=Please consider that all of us, regardless of how narcisit we are, will lose our health sooner or later, sometimes sooner. So we can´t exclue ourselves to being among the unhealthy. The same for being poor. Anyone is above the possibility? Ithink it is funny when people talked about poor and unhealthy as being the other... Marcio -Original Message- From: Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Sent: Sep 7, 2009 2:01 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Ok, and you have a problem with this why? Do you really hate the poor that much? I was mostly talking about the option everyone seems to be against. I know I hate it when I'm given options, don't you? As for paying for others health care, I really don't mind. We all end up paying for others sooner or later. If you keep them healthy, and get health costs under control, it'll more then likely be later then sooner. In other words, keep them working. Or at least able to work. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: No, you don't. The single payer plan, which is an option. No where have I seen it written or said by it's proponents that it would be required of everyone. Jeff, that IS the single defining component of single payer. NO ONE else is paying other than the guvmint, which is kinda the point of *single* payer. Here, let me google that for you. Single-payer health care insurance is a public service financing the delivery of near-universal or universal health care to a given population as defined by age, citizenship, residency, or any other demographic. Single-payer health insurance operates by arranging the payment of services to doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers from a single source established and managed by government http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_health_care First hit, for 'single payer.' * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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If it is for the common good... let´s do it. Marcio -Original Message- From: Mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 6, 2009 7:13 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Who would have thought the unions and government would own a car company 15 years ago? Sent from my iPod On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: This once again goes with the assumption that a government health care option would destroy all private insurance companies. While I'd love to see this happen I doubt it would. Insurance companies are the largest business in the world. I think it would take a whole lot more then a government health insurance option to bring them down. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Sep 6, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Everyone shots themselves in the foot sometimes. Sometimes better than others. The government is not perfect but neither are we. Capitalism is not perfect either. There are some things better handle under the capitalist strategy and other things not. I find it odd that people look to a system that has only made things much less affordable over the years, not the system that has made most things much more affordable, as the preferred solution to accessible health care. Under a free market (not capitalist) option you have choices. Under the guvmint option, you have none. That is the critical difference. I never claimed it to be perfect. Just much, much better. *** *** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** *** *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora
Well, what is the new e-mail program that replaces it and is better? Marcio -Original Message- From: mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:34 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora You can ask, it's not going to happen. Eudora is a dinosaur at this point. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Can we arite Moxilla and ask them to do just this? Keep Eudora? Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:09 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora It's my understanding that the new Eudora is not Eudora at all, but a completely independent program that has either purchased or been given the Eudora name. For that reason, I haven't tried it. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has. I happen to like the Qualcomm Eudora interface very much. I would love an updated version that fixes bugs and adds useful features, without breaking all of the settings I already have, including general settings, address book with group addresses, filters, etc. I have a large array of mailboxes (pigeonholes) and filters to automatically direct incoming messages to the appropriate mailbox. Fred Holmes At 05:44 PM 9/6/2009, Marcio wrote: I am still using the last upgrade of Eudora. Anyone with me? I went to Mozilla and they naw have a Beta Eudora... Should I try? Regards to all Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Not so.. in the political process you have a vote and your representatives. -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 9:30 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... And you will get the same sort of treatment from a government-run program, only worse, and you won't be able to sue the government. Fred Holmes At 02:30 AM 9/7/2009, Marcio wrote: More refusals, more profits. This is the perversity of the system. You can imagine how many time I spendarguing with e dirrector of Managed Care Company who refused to pay for the hospitalization of a suicidal patient, telling me that it up to me to hospitalized the patient because they did not make this medical judgement but... according to their procedures they would not pay for the hospitalization... Many, many times... Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Here is an exemple that I am for the market...UP TO A POINT... Sometimes the government has to intervene, as it is doing now, when drug industry is buying doctors to prescribe what they want to the detriment of people. Also, when the disease is not so prevalent that developping drugs for it can not become profitable... You know keep in mind the common good. That is why government is necessary and sometimes also socialized programs. Chile, under the influence of the Chicago School, under Pinochet a dictator supported by the USA, privatized its Social Security. It has been a disaster... I am glad that the USA did not do it under Bush, this puppet of big business. Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 9:33 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... If you drive the drug companies out of business, then the government will have to manufacture current drugs and develop new ones. Will they do a better job of it? Unlikely! Fred Holmes At 02:37 AM 9/7/2009, mike wrote: I listened to the last right/left/center podcast and A. Huffington was not happy with the big O because he was striking the same backroom deals with big RX everyone else always has. To believe this admin is 'different' then the last in terms of goodness is a mistake. A lot of the same people who were in positions of power at the SEC when Madoff was doing his deeds are still there, in higher positions. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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This is interesting. I am not pro-Cuba and I dislike Fidel as a ditactoir. I agree that Cuba is doing very poorly, partially because of the US embargo. But I beleive that socialism as in Cuba will never work. As I said before I believe in a combination of capitalism with socialized programs. But I will have to agree that Cuba has a better health care and school system that Brazil and the USA. No doubt. Health care and schools must be socialized in order to work. Marcio -Original Message- From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:50 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... For what it is worth, Cuba has one of the best, if not the overall best health care system in the world. Check out the world's health statistics and see for yourself. Marcio can speak to this issue I am sure. Cuba is one poor as hell nation, and the Cuban health care system is government run, yet is at the top of the A list worldwide. Socialist? Yes. Works extremely well overall? Yes. Far lower child death rate than here in the United States? By far. All citizens get health care? Absolutely. Sounds like paradise. Why aren't you living there? I'm sure the Cuban guvmint has no reason to lie to or distort the truth. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Whjy are you afraid of a choice between the private insurers and a government program? I said: choice. Marcio -Original Message- From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:49 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... This is one subspecialty that is also elective surgery. Now say the same thing about cardiac stints, hernia surgery etc. Yes, I understand that. It's one of the better analogs for demonstrating that the medical industry can deliver quality care with cost awareness. Why wouldn't it work for cardiac stents, hernias, tonsils, etc? It wouldn't work very well for time-sensitive/emergency care or for critical care situations such as cancer treatment, but there is a world of medicine where price can and should matter. We can reform health care the smart way, as proposed by Mackey and illustrated in the article you linked with truly innovative ideas, or the dumb way, with price controls, massive budget deficits and a very high probability of rationing with nowhere else to turn. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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For me, the Single Payer is the goal. And we will get there. There is no place for profit by denying care in any health care system. Did you notice any Country in this world copying the USA system?... Marcio -Original Message- From: Mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:29 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Only your misunformation on this one. I doubt when he mentions single payer federal system he is talking about just Illinois. I dont get why the lefties dont want to admit this is the goal, what are they afraid of? It's very difficult to have any real discourse when facts are so easily shoved aside. All you have to do is listen to Obama and others who represent him. Admitting this is the goal would mean we could have an honest conversation about the merits or lack of with this kind of system. We are entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts. Sent from my iPod On Sep 7, 2009, at 10:53 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Search youtube for obama single payer, should be the first hit posted by nakedemporer. I'd post the link but I still can't copy/ paste. More misinformation. The single payer plan Obama supported was for Illinios, not nationwide--had nothing directly to do with current propose legislation other than it's something he likes, not a plan he's pushing federally. The disinformation is too effective in getting too many uninformed people to think they want the [corporate] worst plan instead of favoring one that will work best for them. Get OS v.3.0 for your iPod, then copy/paste as much as you want. It's only 10 bux. *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Betty is right, of course. Anyone that has its reality test intact will agree with her... But if the reality test is disabled by ideology or other interests they will not see it. Marcio -Original Message- From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:55 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... We are the government. We shouldn't be afraid, just because some corporations want us to fear. Fear the corporate databases, not the government. Thanks for the larf, Betty. Good one! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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AGREE! Marcio -Original Message- From: Jordan jor17...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 4:07 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... I hate to throw cold water on all this fun, but wasting time talking about all this fear and straw men is just what the right wing wants you to do. That little video posted a while back is enough for any rational person to get the picture. http://brightcove.newscientist.com/services/player/bcpid2227271001?bctid=30583310001 The public is overwhelmingly for single payer. If congress does anything but work toward putting together a strong single payer plan then they've let the wingers win. It's fear vs. facts. phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Fred Holmesf...@his.com wrote: If you drive the drug companies out of business, then the government will have to manufacture current drugs and develop new ones. Will they do a better job of it? Unlikely! For what it is worth, Cuba has one of the best, if not the overall best health care system in the world. Check out the world's health statistics and see for yourself. Marcio can speak to this issue I am sure. Cuba is one poor as hell nation, and the Cuban health care system is government run, yet is at the top of the A list worldwide. Socialist? Yes. Works extremely well overall? Yes. Far lower child death rate than here in the United States? By far. All citizens get health care? Absolutely. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora
Hmmm I am considering this...going Gmail. But will I find all that Eudore offers? Marcio -Original Message- From: Mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 2:04 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora Better is relative. I switched from eudora years ago to thunderbird and now all my mail is thru gmail. Sent from my iPod On Sep 7, 2009, at 6:26 AM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Well, what is the new e-mail program that replaces it and is better? Marcio -Original Message- From: mike xha...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:34 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora You can ask, it's not going to happen. Eudora is a dinosaur at this point. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Can we arite Moxilla and ask them to do just this? Keep Eudora? Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:09 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora It's my understanding that the new Eudora is not Eudora at all, but a completely independent program that has either purchased or been given the Eudora name. For that reason, I haven't tried it. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has. I happen to like the Qualcomm Eudora interface very much. I would love an updated version that fixes bugs and adds useful features, without breaking all of the settings I already have, including general settings, address book with group addresses, filters, etc. I have a large array of mailboxes (pigeonholes) and filters to automatically direct incoming messages to the appropriate mailbox. Fred Holmes At 05:44 PM 9/6/2009, Marcio wrote: I am still using the last upgrade of Eudora. Anyone with me? I went to Mozilla and they naw have a Beta Eudora... Should I try? Regards to all Marcio *** *** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** *** *** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** *** *** *** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** *** *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Yes, Reverend... something like this. Look my old, very old web page: http://pw2.netcom.com/^mvp1/soloproviders1.htm I made it when I as working as MD under Managed Care in the USA. Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:08 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Most people do not understand what a single payer system is really. It is still insurance but one insurance for everyone. It is a basic insurance that covers each person. You buy it from the provider. Everyone pays the same rate, no matter what. If you fall below income guidelines (like we have now for medicaid etc.) you pay a lower premium or you are covered by the government. (Like we do now) Doctors still get paid like they do now, but they negotiate with one entity and have one set rate, not a multitude. Want more coverage you go to an outside company and buy a supplemental policy. The biggest difference is that no one ever looses their insurance due to illness, job change or job loss, or catastrophic event in their life. You change companies you still have the same policy, you move cross country you still have the same policy. No huge amount of paperwork, no waiting periods no pre existing condition clause. HOWEVER it is still insurance, and you still pay for it and the doctor still has to preform real work to get paid. OH the real benefit? Companies know that no matter how big or small they are they can off to pay the insurance premium for their worker if they so choose. Or they can help buy a supplemental also. But there is never a question of can they or can't they. It is available to everyone no matter what. (No more ratings, no more single versus family etc.) Stewart At 12:53 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: More misinformation. The single payer plan Obama supported was for Illinios, not nationwide--had nothing directly to do with current propose legislation other than it's something he likes, not a plan he's pushing federally. The disinformation is too effective in getting too many uninformed people to think they want the [corporate] worst plan instead of favoring one that will work best for them. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora
Thank you. I am using Eudora 7 and you can still download it from www.eudora.com. But I will look at this. Marcio -Original Message- From: John A. Newitt newit...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 10:53 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora At 10:26 AM -0300 9/7/09, Marcio wrote: Well, what is the new e-mail program that replaces it and is better? I'm sticking with Eudora 6. It still works. But if you need a new program, Mailforge is supposed to be re-built from the ground up to be a Eudora-like modern email application. I can not vouch for this myself since I have never used it. http://www.infinitydatasystems.com/mailforge/index.html - John -- * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Sorry to say but health care indeed is better in Cuba. I admit that even when I am against Fidel and its dictatorshiop. Have you noticed that health care is socialized even in capitalist countries?...As far as I know the USA system is the worse in the world. Somehow the American people allowed the insurane companies take over and of course, less care, more profits... Marcio -Original Message- From: John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 1:59 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... Although it would be nice to cite a reference for the world's health statistics, I suspect that if Cuba looks good in any such listing, it is due to the Mussolini made the trains run on time principle. Cuban physicians and other health workers do as they are told. I doubt anyone in authority there is telling them to report anything that would jeopardize Cuba's high ranking in these statistics. Please don't misconstrue what I have just said as a defense of the U.S. system. It has its virtues, but compared to some others, it ranks poorly overall by most measures. Nevertheless, I think the discourse is best served when limited to countries with at least a smidgen of political freedom. Compared to Cuba, apartheid-era South Africa was a beacon of democracy. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: Then why are Cuban doctors fleeing to the US? See this article from the NYT. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/health/04cuba.html?_r=1partner=rssemc=rsspagewanted=all phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Fred Holmesf...@his.com wrote: If you drive the drug companies out of business, then the government will have to manufacture current drugs and develop new ones. Will they do a better job of it? Unlikely! For what it is worth, Cuba has one of the best, if not the overall best health care system in the world. Check out the world's health statistics and see for yourself. Marcio can speak to this issue I am sure. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive care unit
American medicine, is indeed very good, especially the high tech end of it. To answer your question I would go for risky procedures in the USA rather than in any other country. Said that, when we shift to health care system, the picture changes. There are 45.000.000 Americans without insurance ( all Cubans, Canadians, French, Italian, Swedish, etc, etc are covered). Americans with pre-existing conditions can´t buy insurance and can´t change jobs. And frequently treatments are denyed in the name of profit. I agree that Americans as a rule don´t get too much information from other countries and they don´t realize that a health care system can be much better than what they have. And... they are brainshed to believe that private is always better... Many have to sell their homes in order to get care. Marcio -Original Message- From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 9:53 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive care unit 2009/9/7 Jeff Morris jmor...@clarkswb.net: For you to say that the health care in Cuba is better than the United States may be the dumbest statement I have ever heard. Thank you for the compliment. Given the choice...you mean to tell me that you would fly to Cuba to have open heart surgery instead of having it done by a specialist here? What? I am free now to travel to Cuba? Who do I thank for that? Obama? You answered no...I'm certain...which means then, that health care is NOT better in Cuba. I said that health care, OVERALL, not in regard to some highly specialized areas, is better in Cuba. Any reputable statistical analysis you can find will say the same. The list's resident MD says so as well. You are free to move to Cuba, collect your $3 a month wage and enjoy that health care. Travel restrictions have been lifted? Do not confuse health care costs with health care. There is a world of difference between the two. Socializing our health care system will not only hurt our economy...but it will ruin medicine in the United States. How do you know that? Did Rush tell you? Glenn Beck? Michelle Bachman? You can do some things to fix the cost...without changing the entire system. Who wants to change the entire system? 85% of the population is perfectly happy with their health care. They may be happy with their health care, but they are not happy with the cost or the aggravation. Also, and in reality, what do U.S. citizens really know about health care elsewhere? Isn't it almost purely anecdotal, or derived from corporate hype? I seem to understand that Americans, as a whole, actually understand almost nothing about the rest of the world. With that in mind, why is it assumed that we know so much about health care in other countries as to be able to so easily to come to the conclusion that ours is so great? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive care unit
Of course... so clear! Marcio -Original Message- From: Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 9:30 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive care unit Do not confuse health care costs with health care. There is a world of difference between the two. Socializing our health care system will not only hurt our economy...but it will ruin medicine in the United States. And don't compare how good the cardiac surgeons are with how good the healthcare system is. It doesn't matter how great they are if you can't get insurance. A good healthcare system is more than just doctors and hospitals. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
