Re: [CGUYS] think i've been taken: replacement laptop keys

2011-02-13 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have no idea who you ordered from but if it was Ebay check and see 
if it was HK or China.  If I want it fast, I find a domestic seller, 
and pay a little extra.  Otherwise I bide my time, as shipping from 
there can take a month.


Yes individual keys can be replaced.  You need to be careful as there 
are usually little barbs or hooks on them that break easily.  But you 
can replace individual keys and it is easier than opening up and 
replacing keyboards.


So first check and see where you bought them from and see if it is 
overseas.  Second contact the seller and ask what is going on.


I ordered a book before Christmas did not arrive within 4 
weeks.Contacted seller, he issued refund.  Book promptly showed 
up on my door step.  (Shipped media mail notoriously slow.)


Stewart


At 10:17 AM 2/13/2011, you wrote:

I think I've been taken! Is there any such thing as replacement keys for
laptop keyboards? I ordered some online  they are taking a verrry
lng time to get here! Plus most everything I read online says
no such thing; have to replace entire keyboard! Pls. confirm or not.

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[CGUYS] LG ALLY

2011-01-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Well shiver me timbers, call me Ishmael.

Last night during our sleeping hours, my wife's phone received an update.

When my wife checked her version number it said 2.2.1.  I checked and 
sure enough the Hot spot icon is in her apps.


So it looks like Google has heard the calls and is trying to get all 
the current crop of phones on the same version of OS.  (My Droid 2 
came with 2.2.1)


So thank you Verizon and Google for listening.

Stewart


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 and Windows XP mode

2010-07-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

But then you have the problems with printers etc.

Many modern printers only print from USB ports etc.

Stewart


At 06:00 AM 7/21/2010, you wrote:

Quoting Fred Jones fredjone...@softhome.net:


Thanks for the replies. The old program I need (want) is called Accpac
Plus Accounting. I've had it for about 20+ years and have several
different businesses accounting data on it. The program is expensive
and I never liked the newer versions that much so I continue to use the
old one. I think I will give the XP Mode a try as much to learn about
it and then maybe run the accounting program too. Thanks again.


Well, hell. You can always keep an old box alive (or dual boot) just
to have DOS installed with your accounting program. It certainly
wouldn't take a very modern system. Maybe get a KVM switch to bounce
back and forth.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 and Windows XP mode

2010-07-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

It partially depends on the USB ports.

I remember being able to make the USB ports be finable in DOS.  But 
this was on older MB's.


I would just prefer to run it all in one.

Stewart


At 09:41 PM 7/21/2010, you wrote:

Quoting Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net:


But then you have the problems with printers etc.

Many modern printers only print from USB ports etc.


Or directly over the network. My P3 450 even has a couple of USB
ports. Of course, *DOS* probably doesn't do USB very well. (-:


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Re: [CGUYS] Re: Understanding the iPad

2010-07-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

There is a reason they are called Sheeple.

Stewart


At 10:24 PM 7/21/2010, you wrote:
The iPad isn't a major change in computing hardware. It's old 
technology and very limited, almost crippled. The major change is 
that the system and device are closed, the store is censored, and the 
iPad is designed to suck money out of your wallet [according to 
Goldman Sachs] and make you fat.


The train has left the station and the doors and windows are bolted 
and chained shut with the glass obscured and mirrored from the 
inside. Bye bye. Have a nice ride!


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 and Windows XP mode

2010-07-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That laptop (unless it is an SSD) should have at a minimum a 120 GB harddrive.

Stewart


At 04:21 PM 7/20/2010, you wrote:

First, thanks for answering my last question.
I bought an Alienware 11in notebook computer from Costco that 
shipped with Windows 7 Home Premium. This is an extra computer I 
bought to learn more about Windows 7. I have some older Dos based 
accounting programs that I like to run that I haven't been able to 
install on Windows 7 so I was thinking about Windows XP mode. 
Microsoft website ways that I will need almost 23 GB of disk space 
for the Windows 7 Professional download. Then I'll need to download 
the XP mode, Virtual PC and XP Mode update. I do have a lot of disk 
space, but I was wondering how much additional disk space will be 
taken up on my notebook after I'm done by upgrading Home Premium to 
Professional and installing XP Mode, Virtual PC and the XP mode update.

Thanks again.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 and Windows XP mode

2010-07-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

You are well within your limit.

500GB equals 465 useable.

Total used by OS will maybe be 50 GG.

Still 415 free.

Stewart


At 04:35 PM 7/20/2010, you wrote:
The laptop has 500GB of space. I was wondering how much extra space 
Professional version and XP mode will eat up from my computer with 
the Home Premium that I have now.

Thanks

==
From:   Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net
Date:  Tuesday, July 20, 2010 02:30 pm
Subject:  Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 and Windows XP mode
That laptop (unless it is an SSD) should have at a minimum a 120 GB 
harddrive.

Stewart

At 04:21 PM 7/20/2010, you wrote:

First, thanks for answering my last question.
I bought an Alienware 11in notebook computer from Costco that 
shipped with Windows 7 Home Premium. This is an extra computer I 
bought to learn more about Windows 7. I have some older Dos based 
accounting programs that I like to run that I haven't been able to 
install on Windows 7 so I was thinking about Windows XP mode. 
Microsoft website ways that I will need almost 23 GB of disk space 
for the Windows 7 Professional download. Then I'll need to download 
the XP mode, Virtual PC and XP Mode update. I do have a lot of disk 
space, but I was wondering how much additional disk space will be 
taken up on my notebook after I'm done by upgrading Home Premium to 
Professional and installing XP Mode, Virtual PC and the XP mode update.

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Re: [CGUYS] Salvaging Hard Drive

2010-07-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Have you set your BIOS to boot from CD?

It might be a CD problem.

Pull the CD and see if you get the same error.

Stewart


At 05:37 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

When I set up the boot order to CD first, and put in the CD, I get the
prompt Press any key to continue which I do, but then I get the no
operating system error found error.

I had aborted the set up in mid stream previously, and haven't been
able to get through the process to start the reformat over.

Richard P.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:14 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why can't you start from CD and just reformat?

 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've somehow messed up the re-formatting of my laptop hard drive when
 I was attempting to reinstall Windows XP. Now when I try to boot up
 with the CD, I get a No Operating System Found error. Is there a way
 to start this process over and salvage the hard drive?

 Thanks in advance

 Richard P.

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 Dell Laptop


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Re: [CGUYS] Salvaging Hard Drive

2010-07-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

OH GOD is hell freezing over?

Tom and I just agreed on something.

Stewart


At 06:31 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

Have you set your BIOS to boot from CD?

It might be a CD problem.

Pull the CD and see if you get the same error.

Stewart


At 05:37 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

When I set up the boot order to CD first, and put in the CD, I get the
prompt Press any key to continue which I do, but then I get the no
operating system error found error.

I had aborted the set up in mid stream previously, and haven't been
able to get through the process to start the reformat over.

Richard P.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:14 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why can't you start from CD and just reformat?

 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've somehow messed up the re-formatting of my laptop hard drive when
 I was attempting to reinstall Windows XP. Now when I try to boot up
 with the CD, I get a No Operating System Found error. Is there a way
 to start this process over and salvage the hard drive?

 Thanks in advance

 Richard P.

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Re: [CGUYS] Salvaging Hard Drive

2010-07-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
If you got media with your Computer you can boot to the recovery CD 
and it will then start from the recovery partition.


I have never had problems with reformatting a drive on a Dell as it 
is a hidden partition not normally seeable to a Windows install CD.


Stewart

At 06:39 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:
Dell computers often have a recovery partition on the drive. You 
start up while holding down some F key and it restores you to 
original condition. This partition may also be interfering with your 
attempt to roll your own install.


Sent from my iPad

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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [CGUYS] Salvaging Hard Drive

2010-07-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes.  It is sometimes recommended that you do it this way so that 
when you need to reload you do not loose everything.


Should remember it when you do it.

Stewart


At 11:25 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

I'm slowly making progress. I think I created my own problem when the
prompt for removing the floppy came, I took it literally and didn't
remove the installation CD. I did partition the drive but made the C
drive only 10 GB. Can I get away with installing only the operating
system on C, and put everything else on D (which is 30GB), or should
I just start over?

One other thing, I've yet to be asked to register the system and I've
even loaded the Windows Validation Tool. Will this come up later or
did it somehow remember the authentication?

Thanks for all the input, it's been helpful.

Richard P.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
 If you got media with your Computer you can boot to the recovery CD and it
 will then start from the recovery partition.

 I have never had problems with reformatting a drive on a Dell as it is a
 hidden partition not normally seeable to a Windows install CD.

 Stewart

 At 06:39 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

 Dell computers often have a recovery partition on the drive. You start up
 while holding down some F key and it restores you to original condition.
 This partition may also be interfering with your attempt to roll your own
 install.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple's iPad: Death knell for traditional Ma cintos h computers?

2010-06-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I don't think it is that easy to make that judgement.

Just 10 years ago the 17 CRT monitor was considered a luxury.

In those days all coders and programmers sufficed on 15 monitors that 
had flicker problems and such.


The 15 laptop (really 15.4) is actually a little larger than the 
monitors we used in those days.


Really I started off on a 14 monochrome display.

Just how large a monitor do we need?  Just how many monitors do we need?

Does the corporation need to pay for a multiple monitor setup where 
one would suffice, just because the employee wants the latest and greatest?


There has to be a balancing act here that looks at the job and needs 
of the job, besides what the employee wishes for.


I just got a 22 flat panel for my office to replace my 17 CRT.  I 
was happy to get it, as it cost just a shade more than the 19 CRT I 
bought a few years ago that was a refurb.


Stewart

At 09:13 AM 6/30/2010, you wrote:

Well, a fifteen-inch laptop is still a far cry from an iPad--let
alone an orignal Mac (or an Osborn).  I'm sorry your brother and his
co-workers have to use a 15-inch laptop to code on all day; but here,
we're getting into the issue of workers versus corporations, rather
than consumer choice (of iPads and smartphones versus computers).

And iPhones may be cool, but they're still much too expensive for a
lot of people.  The mere fact that an iPhone does a lot of stuff does
not give me (or anybody else) the money to buy one, or the
wherewithal to pay the telephone bill.  This is serious money, folks;
and for something that can't do a lot of everyday functions, like
writing a book report or typing a letter.  It's really about how many
people can afford a luxury item, like a smartphone or an iPad.  For a
lot of us, the money just isn't there; and if it were, we would
probably spend it on a more useful device, like a computer of some
kind.  Or even on food and rent.

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Re: [CGUYS] Lawsuit: Dell knowingly shipped 12 million faulty computers

2010-06-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Yeah a 155 not a 105.

Stewart

At 09:01 PM 6/30/2010, you wrote:

I liked the fact that they sent a batch of the bad computers to their own
lawyers and refused to make good on the faulty equipment.  Talk about
shooting yourself in the foot with a howitzer.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 It also mentioned that Dell was not the only company hit by these bad
 capacitors, but also HP and Apple.

 Seems Dell made the mistake of trying to cover it up.

 Remember it is not the 2 bit problem that sinks you but the 4 star cover
 up.  (rephrasing words spoken about Nixon)

 Stewart




 At 09:53 AM 6/30/2010, you wrote:

 Capacitor leaks are serious business. When a capacitor blows out, not
 only does the device in question die an instant death, it might even
 catch fire.   So when the New York Times reports on freshly unsealed
 documents from a lawsuit alleging that Dell, over the course of two
 years, sold almost 12 million Optiplex machines with leaky capacitors
 to companies large and small, you know there's pain ahead for Dell
 whether the company wins the suit or not.


 
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Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
With ATT those extreme cases seem to matter much more than with 
another carrier.


Stewart


At 01:17 AM 6/29/2010, you wrote:
Because it doesn't matter in normal use. It appears that it may 
matter in some extreme cases. You are insisting that they must 
design their product for the extreme case and make the rest of us 
suffer the consequences. You have not explained why they must do 
such a silly thing. You just insist that they must.


Sent from my iPad

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 However, you simply refuse to say that Apple could have
 done better in this instance, thus I am left to puzzle over why you
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Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd

2010-06-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes although a right hander I use my left hand for phone calling 
almost exclusively.


I think it also has to do with hearing problems in the right one.

Stewart


At 09:27 AM 6/26/2010, you wrote:

I've seen this in some of the forums regarding the issue..calling it a lefty
issue as if there are so few left handed people that it's not a huge
problem.  I don't know about right handers on the list, but I hold my phone
almost exclusively with my left hand.  Anyone else?

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 6:50 AM, MrMike6by9 mrmike6...@gmail.com wrote:



 PS - They are doing maintenance on the Forums at the moment. Later, I can
 post a link to a thread with real world experiences with this. As a
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Typical arrogance from someone on the East Coast.

Just because a lot of folks live there does not make you the be all 
to the end all.


We do matter.  Just because you do not care about us does not really matter.

This is what leads to a lot of intolerance from many sides.

Stewart


At 01:25 PM 6/18/2010, you wrote:
This is a major chunk of the country. Why should the future wait for 
you laggards?


Sent from my iPad

On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 What you fail to realize is that you live in a unique area.
 From DC north to NYC


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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I am a subscriber to Netflix and view Netflix movies on my computer 
and my WII on the wide screen TV (Streamed)


Few drawbacks yet.

New releases usually are not on the view menu.  Because of Studio 
agreements and what not they usually take some time before you can 
watch them this way.  (and usually do not till they are a few years old.)


Closed Captions.  Most movies (they are working to improve this) do 
not have closed captions available. My wife hates it because I have 
to turn the TV up to hear the movie.


Limited menu.  As I stated before not all movies are available in 
this manner, and the list is constantly changing.  (Some studios 
actually pull movies from the list.)


Not too long ago the studios started penalizing Netflix (and Redbox) 
by not allowing them the new releases on the same day as the stores 
got them for sale.  They did this because of money once again.  In 
their minds they sell more movies in the month following a new 
release than they do after this date and if they can prevent 
consumers from being able to rent these movies in that time frame 
they feel they can make up their investment.  So Netflix and Redbox 
have come to agreements with the studios (the honest truth is the 
studios blackmailed and arm twisted them into it.) and all is OK 
right now (you simply wait a month till you can rent it.)  It is 
interesting that the only video rental company who did not have this 
happen, already had a kickback agreement with the studio, Blockbuster 
(which is going down the tubes)


Studios will have to be the first ones to change this problem.

I agree being able to stream the entertainment is neat.  But until 
you can truly stream the movies you want instead of what Hollywood 
will allow you too, BR and DVD will still be the preferred method of 
distribution.


Stewart


At 12:30 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
BR is yesterday's answer. Look at what NetFlix is doing to see what 
replaced it.


Sent from my iPad

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 Well Jobs does make bags of money from selling media as he does...I know
 he's leaving out a lot of people though who know for now, BR is
 a necessary item in any serious entertainment system.  Also he was talking
 about licensing two years ago, BR has taken off, there is no 
other option on

 the market anymore.


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Re: [CGUYS] Seeing only part of the conversation?

2010-06-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

You mean the list is BI?

Stewart


At 12:22 PM 6/16/2010, you wrote:

Be sure to also subscribe to our Yahoo list. This list swings both ways.

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Re: [CGUYS] Seeing only part of the conversation?

2010-06-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Oh so we go all ways.  :-)

Stewart


At 02:06 PM 6/16/2010, you wrote:

On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

You mean the list is BI?


Actually 4 ways. Lets not leave out the Linux and Commodore folks. I
don't know about those Amiga folks though.


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Re: [CGUYS] buying at laptop at Staples?

2010-06-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Each Big Box store has different return policies.

This is usually for plain old returns.  If it is longer that means 
you can bring it back if it fails also.  (sometimes)


Double check the pricing and see if the same laptop is available at a 
store that matches prices.  Occasionally  stores will have a special 
model that cannot be found or compared at another store, but they 
will have a similar one that they will not do a price match on.


Whenever you buy from any retailer it really is Cavet Emptor

Stewart


At 03:25 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote:

A relative offered to buy a laptop and wants to get one he saw in an
advertisement at Staples.  Not sure which one he has in mind, but am a bit
nervous about getting a computer there, given they only give you 2 weeks to
return electronics.  Is that a standard amount of time for returns for
computers at most stores?  Anyone have experiences (good or bad) buying a
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Re: [CGUYS] The AOL LISTSERV is back up. Let's see if it works.

2010-06-13 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I normally do not signup on Yahoo groups with my yahoo address.

I use that for other tuff.

I use my earth link or other addresses.

Stewart


At 02:18 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote:

Is it possible to be signed up on Yahoo and simultaneously get the messages
in one's (non-Yahoo) e-mail?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Brian Jones wjone...@carolina.rr.comwrote:

 Me too.
  I left it turned on as well.
  - Brian


 On 6/13/2010 1:11 PM, tjpa wrote:

 On Jun 12, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:

 Well, if the AOL Listserv is back up, this message should be distributed.


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That is fine but don't tell me what I want.  I know what I need!!!

Plus Apple has already marginalized me by not going to the carrier I 
need in this area.


They have made some cagy business moves but that also means some of 
us just wont bite.


Stewart


At 09:24 AM 5/11/2010, you wrote:

On May 10, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

Actually I have looked at it and I want a phone with a physical
keypad!


I keep reading reports of people who insisted they needed a physical
keyboard, discovering that a virtual keyboard works fine. I have also
read that the Apple implementation works far better than Android's.


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Re: [CGUYS] NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share

2010-05-10 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Does not surprise me.

They seem to have many models and many modes of entry into the market.

I think Verizon has at least 4 different Android models right now.

And that is just Verizon.  I think every Cell carrier has at least 
one Android model at present.


Stewart


At 04:06 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

NPD reported Android hit 28% over Apple's 21% share for smartphone.  Could
this be why Apple is screwing with their developers?  Heaven forbid they
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Re: [CGUYS] NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share

2010-05-10 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
My Son and his companion did just that this week and they both are 
running Droids.


My youngest is waiting till the end of the month to do so.  But he is 
also getting the droid.


Stewart


At 04:29 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

On May 10, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

They seem to have many models and many modes of entry into the market.


And a buy one get one free deal. That would double their numbers
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-10 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It was just announced today the Sprint/Nextel will not support the 
Goggle Nexus One phone but will back a lesser model the HTC EVO that 
runs android software.


So Googles marketing plan on a phone for networks may not work out 
well.  But their software seems to be a big hit.


Stewart


At 04:40 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

The real Steve says you are all wet (but what does he know?).

Steve Jobs says Apple isn't de-emphasizing the Mac
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-10 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Actually I have looked at it and I want a phone with a physical keypad!

I also looked at the Droid and found it a touch heavy for me.

Presently I have a Palm Pre.

Stewart


At 07:23 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

Actually that 4g phone is better than the nexus in most every respect.
The nexus was cutting edge for about ten minutes, then HTC started
releasing better phones..the 4G, the incredible. Might want take a
look at Verizon's version of the newest HTC.

Sent from my iPod

On May 10, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
  wrote:

 It was just announced today the Sprint/Nextel will not support the
 Goggle Nexus One phone but will back a lesser model the HTC EVO that
 runs android software.

 So Googles marketing plan on a phone for networks may not work out
 well.  But their software seems to be a big hit.

 Stewart


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 The real Steve says you are all wet (but what does he know?).

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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues

2010-05-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I go between both Firefox and IE.

Occasionally I get a page with security (governmental web sites are 
notorious) that just do not function correctly with Firefox.


Stewart


At 12:23 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote:

  Just goes to prove once again that no person and no thing ever
remains at the top of the heap forever.  No big surprise, really,
especially considering the number of good and free web browser
applications now available.  I do not think that I am aware of any
computer user who runs IE.  It is either Firefox or Opera or Safari
for the most part these days from what I see.

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Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?

2010-05-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I will check that one out. I have been using Avast Home.

Stewart


At 04:48 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote:

I like the free Comodo products.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek g...@mothergeek.com wrote:

 Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee
 (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead 
 www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there
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Re: [CGUYS] Cuccinelli (was: illegal search warrant?)

2010-05-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Ours is the exact opposite problem.

Our governor has gone rouge by getting a chosen appointee top bust 
every Bingo parlor in the state with midnight raids and no warrants 
claiming it is his right.


The AG has signed off on many of these when they have questioned him 
on wether or not they are legal.


They are in a pretty public spat on this one.  (Alabama law forbids 
gambling establishments.  Many folks have opened Electronic Bingo halls)


He even has threatened Federal gambling halls (Indian)

He is term limited so we will have a new on this fall.  What choices, 
Judge Roy (Ten Commandment) Moore to other candidates who are willing 
to discuss the gambling issue.


Stewart


At 02:54 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote:
And now he's on a witch hunt, demanding everything that Michael Mann 
has ever touched, seen, or thought about, whether it actually exists 
any more or not (and if not, you'd better know how, when, and
why it went away, and who else knows about how, why, and when it 
went away, and who else knew or might have known what was in it 
before it went away).


Bonus: He said that he was considering not getting a Social Security 
Number for his 7th child (!) because it is being used to track you.


He also seems to be a birther.

My favorite blog quote: Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli 
has only been in office since January, but he's already demonstrated 
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Actually I was half right.

Note the fine print of the map:

Based on death data from 2000 through 2006, this US map of the 
smoothed, county-level, age-adjusted suicide rates indicate that 
suicide rates are highest in the western and northwestern regions of 
the United States. There is also a notable pattern of high suicide 
rates among counties in the central areas of the midwest and southern 
regions and in central Florida.



They may be lower in density but they are not the norm.  The areas I 
was most familiar with (upper midwest) showed a lower suicide rate.


Also statistics can be misleading.

 1 suicide in an area of 300 is 1/300 of the population but it is 
still one.  10 suicides in a area of 10,000 is 1/1,000.  Not as large 
a statistical number but it is in reality over 3 times as many suicides.


I have dealt with the aftermath of suicide and it is never a fun 
topic nor easy to explain.  Many things go into it.


Stewart



At 10:09 PM 4/30/2010, you wrote:

Actually, the holiday suicide idea is a media-perpetuated falsehood:
http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/suicide.asp

And I posted about this yesterday, but somehow the post didn't make
it to the list:  Stewart was wrong about suicide increasing
with population density.  It's exactly the opposite.  Massachusetts,
New York,  New Jersey and DC are among the most densely
populated states and have some of the lowest suicide rates,
while Alaska, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana have some of the
higher rates and are among the least densely populated.

If you want to see it visually by county, look at the two maps here
of the suicide rate and population density:

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/suicide/statistics/suicide_map.html
http://www.mapofusa.net/us-population-density-map.htm

You'll see a very good correspondence between low population
density and high suicide rates or between high population density and
low suicide rates.  And it's not just the US, it seems to be a
worldwide phenomenon:
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10398page=36
In China, the contrast between the rural and urban suicide
rates is particularly extreme.

 From:Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net
 Subject: Re: illegal search warrant?

   This is purely anecdotal, but aren't holidays the highest rate =
 for suicide, regardless of population size. Of course trying to =
 reinstall Windows probably should be lumped in there some place.=20


 Jeff Miles
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 Join my Mafia
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 On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

 I believe that statistics show that the suicide rate increases the =
 higher density the population.
 =20
 Also during highly stressed conditions.
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Do your research before you flap your gums.

WRONG!

Stewart


At 05:11 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:56 PM, mike wrote:

That's why the murder rate in DC is one of the highest in the country.
Places where people walk around with guns is safer than those places
who
don't.


Towns with pop 10 usually do have lower murder rates, prolly have
higher suicide rates though. What about it?


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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I believe that statistics show that the suicide rate increases the 
higher density the population.


Also during highly stressed conditions.

Stewart


At 05:22 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

Do your research before you flap your gums.

WRONG!

Stewart


At 05:11 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:56 PM, mike wrote:

That's why the murder rate in DC is one of the highest in the country.
Places where people walk around with guns is safer than those places
who
don't.


Towns with pop 10 usually do have lower murder rates, prolly have
higher suicide rates though. What about it?


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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Tom having lived in the said communities most of my ministry I know 
the statistics.


Just not true.

Oh and they have a lot more firearms than you can count.  Most of it 
long barrel not short barrel.


Stewart


At 08:01 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

I believe that statistics show that the suicide rate increases the
higher density the population.


That's reported suicides. When nobody notices it doesn't get reported.
The sun just bleaches your bones.


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Re: [CGUYS] Some of you will find this tragic

2010-04-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Tom just put them on your bicycle they make a wonderful noise when you ride.

Stewart


At 08:03 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Robert Carroll wrote:

I still have some important punch cards.  Most of them are in the
right order.


Me too. And several cartons unused. What am I offered for 2000 cards
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Re: [CGUYS] Some of you will find this tragic

2010-04-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

And the whole punches make wonderful confetti (eco confetti) for weddings.

Stewart


At 09:11 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:
You can use them to make lovely wreaths, too. Although, used ones 
(with punched holes) look a little better.


At 8:08 PM -0500 4/29/10, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:


Tom just put them on your bicycle they make a wonderful noise when you ride.

Stewart


At 08:03 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Robert Carroll wrote:

I still have some important punch cards.  Most of them are in the
right order.


Me too. And several cartons unused. What am I offered for 2000 cards
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Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Whose bad mouthing it?  Kind of a neat car.

Lots of European clones of it also.

Stewart


At 08:07 AM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

Reverend, please don't bad-mouth my Honda Fit!

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Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I am not talking about the screamers.

Even many of their low end cars are neat looking compared to what is 
sold over here.


Stewart


At 12:00 AM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

I'll take a ford gt over those foreign screamers.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 At least you can buy neat looking cars that perform also.

 Makes it more fun to drive.

 Stewart



 At 10:14 PM 4/27/2010, you wrote:

 And if yer lucky and live in France, maybe you can get your car burned up!

 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:02 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

 
  Move to France and get TV, phone, Internet, cellular for $33/mo total.
 But
  you can't have that in the US. Too bad. Your elected representatives
 think
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I did not know you were Jewish.

Stewart


At 09:16 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:

You tend to be so predictable Tom.


I sure am. Those old tablets Moses was carrying still have some
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

It has been referenced here online that the phone got returned.

Stewart


At 10:27 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

I've seen nothing about any attempts to return the phone..any links rev?

On Apr 28, 2010 6:59 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Lousy analogy Tom. You act as if you have not read any of what has been
written about this item.

The fact is the item was left by absent minded techie at bar.

Item was turned into bar tender who has no idea whose it is.(I wonder
how many folks had been there that night and had phones?)

Good faith attempts were made to return said item to Apple, but because of
Apples own compartmentalization no one knew what they were talking about.

I cant remember how the Gizmodo guy got it at that point but he did, he then
did a review and took it apart analyzed etc. etc.

When he had it back together and working he sent it back.

It is only after the fact that they have raided the guys house and not
charged him with anything.  I wonder what the search warrant said?

You have to lay part of the blame here at Apple for being careless with
their tech stuff, and being a little paranoid.  This is not the first time
someone has lost a prototype and someone else got it to look at and review.

This would make it one of the first times that the reviewer has been
criminalized for someone elses careless behavior.

Is the Gizmodo guy totally innocent here, I don't think so, but he saw a
chance to be one of the first to see review and look at a prototype of
Iphone.

But I also see Apple going over the top here and making themselves look
really really stupid and heavy handed.

Especially since they had the phone back already.

And I would venture to say if this had been a Windows Mobile 7 phone that
had had this happen to it, you would be jumping up and down saying way to go
Gimodo

You tend to be so predictable Tom.

Stewart

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Re: [CGUYS] Palm Does About as Well as It Could

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

So far I am very happy with my Palm Pre.

Nicely done, nice hardware and easy to use.

Could use a few more apps, it would be nice to have a decent IM program.

I have not paid for one app yet, an have a decent group of them that 
are useful.


The free hotspot app and usage (Verizon dropped the fee for using 
it.) makes this very handy.


I even have an app that will help me keep track of gasoline usage and 
lets me know very quickly mileage etc.


Granted it does not have as many apps as the Iphone (no kidding) but 
again I have mostly what I need.


Stewart




At 10:25 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

An HP engineered phone can't be worse than a palm pixi.  Web os is a strong,
nicely done os...it just has no support for apps and the hardware I think is
poor.

On Apr 28, 2010 7:34 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

Wow! This is an interesting change of fortune and hopefully a new lease on
life for Palm. The only question is whether HP has recovered enough from the
dark days of Carlie's rule to pull off a project that takes serious
engineering. I don't know. I have not been watching HP that closely of late.
My old Palm Tungsten still keeps on trucking. I never took a Pre out for a
spin.

Any opinions?

Hewlett-Packard Will Acquire Palm for $1.2 Billion (Update3) - BusinessWeek
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Re: [CGUYS] Is Apple Readying for a Rematch With Microsoft in Personal Computing? - NYTimes.com

2010-04-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
MS is releasing some  Win phones on Verizon the Kin's which are using 
a cut down version of their new OS.


Lower prices also.

Stewart


At 06:29 PM 4/18/2010, you wrote:

Apple had a decade on MS at one point according to Steve Jobs and dropped
the ball.  We'll see if that changes with this new battlefield.  Apple
seemingly has the same type of disadvantage with their product only being
sold on one network while MS can get it's new phone on any network, and
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Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case

2010-04-09 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That part is true, but commissions many times have to interpret 
poorly or very vaguely written law (because politicians like to have 
it both ways.  And I mean that in the worst sense.)


It is not a perfect world, in any sense of the way.

The FCC is trying to make decisions in the public interest using 
vague and dual meaning laws meant to not accomplish much but get the 
pols elected again and again.


Sometimes I would prefer to let a commissioner make a decision in my 
best interest because no one else would.  Commissioners tend to be 
less invested in the decisions they make and less influenced by 
industry than the pols.


Stewart


At 05:33 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
Of course Congress makes its decisions for political reasons! That's 
their job. Politicians are the ones who should be making law, not 
commissions. Politicians can be held accountable for their actions 
at election time.


Stewart Marshall wrote:

And Congress does not do this either?

Stewart


At 10:57 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When 
the laws governing regulation of it were established, 
Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but 
a small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be 
the body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an 
FCC with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power.


John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Steve at Verizon 
stevet...@verizon.netwrote:




I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to
regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC 
to regulate

Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications
company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the 
juristicion  of the

FCC. Am I wrong?

Are we not communicating here?






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Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case

2010-04-09 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not all political appointments are hacks, and not all are party hacks 
either side.


This is why I would sometimes put my trust in them versus a guy I 
elect and lies to me.


By the way how can you tell if a politician is lying to you?  His 
mouth is open. (shameless old joke I know)


Stewart


At 08:48 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:

It is not a perfect world, in any sense of the way.


There's an opinion piece in today's Post br Robert McDowell,
who is an FCC commissioner.  It is noteworthy that he was
reappointed in June of last year, and was the first Republican
to be so appointed to an independent agency by BHO.

Unanimously confirmed by the Senate.

Here's what he thinks:

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Re: [CGUYS] My download speed

2010-04-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Multiplier is 1.52

Stewart


At 04:00 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote:

Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net escribió:

On the downlink. On the uplink the speed is 
typically 1/10 of that as  the providers have 
found yet another excuse for charging 
their  customers extra if they want symmetric service.

Not really.  Most of the traffic is server to client, not vice-versa.  It's
a well accepted transport architecture.  France Telecom/Orange is
widely regarded as being one of the highest market penetration
providers in Europe, yet they are mostly ADSL.  Asymmetric, in
other words,  not SDSL.
http://www.orange.com/en_EN/group/


Thanks for the link Eric. Proves my points 
completely. Only difference is that the monthly 
charge for broadband is less than half as much 
as it was when I looked a year ago. Orange UK 
charges £9.00 per month for 20Mbps service 
[plus around and extra £9-10 line rental].


Consider that the UK pound is the equivalent 
currency to Brits as the US dollar is to us. In 
many cases the US dollar can buy more in the US 
than the UK pound can buy in the UK. Electronic 
communication services however--cellular and 
broadband--are at least 5X more costly here than in the UK.


Why? They have regulation and competition. We 
don't. We have barely regulated monopolies.


I'd be thrilled to pay £9.00 for month for 
20Mbps broadband, even if I'd have to pay it in 
US dollars. Today's rate: 9.00 GBP = 13.7698 
USD. I'll pay twice that at $27.54!


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Not even close.

Only things you have to fight off are Teapartiers and termites.

Stewart


At 09:17 AM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 3, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:

There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or
so that have varying degrees of service.  Most of them have VOIP
available.


But isn't your area somewhere in the middle of the Okefenokee Swamp? I
don't think Eric and his crews want to be fighting off crocodiles just
so you can stream Alice in Wonderland.


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Re: [CGUYS] Masters Tournament

2010-04-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Ho hum.

Stewart


At 02:38 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

  I saw an ad yesterday on TV promoting the upcoming Masters Golf
event featuring 'you know who.'  While making sure that viewers got
the message about what TV channel to watch to be able to see the
return of the Savior of Golfdom, the ad also suggested that all of you
who are at work on opening day and are supposed to be actually working
should instead watch streaming video of the Resurrection on the
computer in your office.  And, don't forget to make sure you watch it
on your 3G device if you happen to be driving around that day.

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Re: [CGUYS] My download speed

2010-04-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Si Senor.

Stewart



At 06:40 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:


Betty and Stewart will be waiting for Pedro, Jorge, and their amigos
to come along and dig up their neighborhoods.


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Absolutely.

My in-laws live 300+ miles north of the border.

The services they can get and the cost are far, far different than 
what is offered in the lower half of the province.


The farther you get from the border the more remote and rugged it 
gets.  Leave any of the population dense sites and it is like 
stepping into another world.


Stewart


At 12:32 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote:

Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its
population by the size of the country. However, it is highly
concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90
miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution.


Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your
90 mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all
those who live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible?


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

First you must live in a Rogers Cable served area.

Stewart


At 12:51 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote:
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable 
Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. 
And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops 
out at 50.  Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is.


And that it standard cable, not FIOS.

Michael


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Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}

2010-04-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I read this, but again it is a faint rumor.  NO one has verified it, 
and these have been going for a bout a year.


Stewart


At 06:07 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:

There are very strong hints that a new iPhone will be released before
the end of the year that will be Verizon compatible. Some reports are
saying this will be in addition to ATT as a provider veruss a
replacement. Some of this speculation comes from this WSJ article:

MARCH 30, 2010
New iPhone Could End ATT's U.S. Monopoly
By YUKARI IWATANI KANE, TING-I TSAI And NIRAJ SHETH

Apple Inc. plans to begin producing this year a new iPhone that could
allow U.S. phone carriers other than ATT Inc. to sell the iconic
gadget, said people briefed by the company.

The new iPhone would work on a type of wireless network called CDMA,
these people said. CDMA is used by Verizon Wireless, ATT's main
competitor, as well as Sprint Nextel Corp. and a handful of cellular
operators in countries including South Korea and Japan. The vast
majority of carriers world-wide, including ATT, use another
technology called GSM.

With Apple developing a phone with CDMA capability, its exclusive U.S.
arrangement with ATT dating to 2007 appears set to end.

Verizon Wireless, owned by Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone
Group PLC, declined to comment. An ATT spokesman said: There has
been lots of incorrect speculation on CDMA iPhones for a long time. We
haven't seen one yet and only Apple knows when that might occur.
Apple declined to comment.

Separately, Apple plans to release a new version of its current iPhone
this summer, continuing its practice of annual upgrades at about the
same time of year, said people briefed on the matter. The model is
likely to be thinner and have a faster processor, two people familiar
with the device said.

For ATT, the Apple relationship has been crucial, helping to make the
carrier the U.S. leader in lucrative smart-phone market share.
According to comScore Inc., ATT has over 43% of all U.S. smart-phone
customers, compared with 23% for Verizon. These customers are
especially attractive because they generally pay higher monthly rates
for data plans.

For several quarters, ATT's growth has come almost single-handedly
from the iPhone. In the fourth quarter of 2009, the carrier said it
activated 3.1 million new iPhones. In comparison, it counted only a
net total of 2.7 million new subscribers as some customers moved from
other phones to iPhones.

You're not going to lose the iPhone [exclusivity] and make up growth
somewhere else without bearing the cost, said Sanford C. Bernstein 
Co. research analyst Craig Moffett.

The people briefed on the matter said the upgraded GSM iPhone is being
made by Taiwanese contract manufacturer Hon Hai Precision Industry
Co., which produced Apple's previous iPhones. The CDMA iPhone model is
being made by Pegatron Technology Corp., the contract manufacturing
subsidiary of Taiwan's ASUSTeK Computer Inc., said these people.

One person familiar with the situation said Pegatron is scheduled to
start mass producing CDMA iPhones in September. Other people said,
however, that the schedule could change and the phone may not be
available to consumers immediately after production begins.

Representatives of Pegatron and Hon Hai declined to comment.

Verizon has publicly stated its interest in the iPhone, but people
familiar with the situation said Apple originally decided against
developing a phone for Verizon to keep its development process simple,
since the technologies are incompatible.

Verizon also is upgrading its network to a higher-speed technology, so
Apple has said it believed CDMA was a short-term technology. Apple
later changed its mind as it realized Verizon's upgrade would take
longer than expected, said people familiar with the situation.

Making the iPhone available through Verizon, which has over 91 million
customers, as well as potentially other CDMA carriers could open up a
significant new market. In 2009, iPhone sales globally rose 83% to
25.1 million, far outpacing the 20% to 25% growth in smart phones
sales overall, according to Bernstein. But since Apple already
dominates smart-phone sales through existing partners, sooner rather
than later, Apple is going to have to look to find incremental
distribution, said Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi. He estimates
Verizon could help Apple nearly double the number of iPhone users in
the U.S.

ATT's relationship with Apple, a lucrative deal arranged by Apple
Chief Executive Steve Jobs, shows how such a partnership with other
carriers could present challenges.

Analysts estimate ATT pays Apple more than $600 per phone, but sells
most of them for $199 or less. Heavy iPhone users have also put an
enormous load on ATT's wireless network, pushing the carrier to a
breaking point in some markets such as New York and San Francisco.

Qualcomm Inc., which holds patent rights to CDMA, is the dominant
designer of CDMA chips.

Write to Yukari Iwatani Kane at 

Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}

2010-04-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yeah but for those trying to make a decision on what their next phone 
will be it is disheartening.


Do I don't I when?

There is a word for folks like that it is called a tease.  And sooner 
or later teasers get theirs back.


Stewart


At 10:23 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:


We all know that someday this will happen. It is about as informed as
predicting a sunrise.


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Re: [CGUYS] It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing

2010-04-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I like email as it gives me a paper trail, and for those of us over 
50, it is a memory!!


I can look back at an email and see what was asked.  I can then check 
my out box and see if I wrote them back.


Helps a lot.

Stewart


At 10:26 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:


I have been sending emails to people who sit right next to me for over
20 years. It is effective and considerate. I'm not barging in with a
demand that my question come first. It lets them queue me up and reply
as appropriate.


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Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}

2010-04-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

It can be.

Has been going on for decades.

I remember when I used the Commodore 64.

Went to a tech show at the Ex.  (Exhibition center in Toronto) They 
showed some programs for the 64 that built on Word Pro and did many 
neat and wonderful things in that day.  Fonts, double column printing etc.


I cant remember the name of the company but they were out of Salinas 
Kansas, and their Word processor was exactly what I 
wanted.  Releasing next March, yeah right.


Took almost a year to get the program if I remember and I called them 
a few times about it.


The industry has had a habit of teasing about stuff, and being very 
vague about when it will come out.


One thing has stuck with me for a long time.

How long is a nanosecond?  The length of time it takes you to get 
your new system home and when it becomes outdated!


Stewart




At 10:46 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:

So, Rev. are you accusing the entire tech industry of being a tease?

Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
Yeah but for those trying to make a decision on what their next phone
will be it is disheartening.

Do I don't I when?

There is a word for folks like that it is called a tease.  And sooner
or later teasers get theirs back.


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Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}

2010-04-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

OK so I was thinking of a time just longer than a Nanosecond.  :-)

Stewart


At 01:35 PM 4/1/2010, rleesimon wrote:

Hey, rev...on what earth are you...it doesn't take the time to get it home
to be outdated since it is sold with an outdated sticker on the box
already...


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Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}

2010-04-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Remember I deal in Eternity by trade. :-)

Stewart


At 02:46 PM 4/1/2010, rleesimon wrote:

gear extinction is currently measured in picoseconds, rev ...get with the
program ...everything is REVved up!!  ;^)

-Original Message-
From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:35 PM
To: rleesimon
Cc: 'Computer Guys Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow
all computing}

OK so I was thinking of a time just longer than a Nanosecond.  :-)

Stewart


At 01:35 PM 4/1/2010, rleesimon wrote:
Hey, rev...on what earth are you...it doesn't take the time to get it home
to be outdated since it is sold with an outdated sticker on the box
already...

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Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}

2010-04-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Depends on how much you are talking? :-)

6 figures works for my church.

Stewart

At 04:13 PM 4/1/2010, rleesimon wrote:
Ah ...patronage lives, I presume ?  ...you deal 
in Eternity !!  ...can I get a price quote in 
$US or even in € if you have any  absolutions available in the EU ??  LOL !!


-Original Message-
From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:00 PM
To: rleesimon
Cc: 'Computer Guys Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app 
world, and it could swallow all computing}


Remember I deal in Eternity by trade. :-)

Stewart


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Re: [CGUYS] It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing

2010-03-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I will be sticking with Verizon because of the service area where I live.

I have been looking at the Droid.

My son absolutely wants the Droid. (Will be twenty in May more phone 
that I think he really needs.)  Right now they have a 2 for one 
offer, but you have to have a contract coming up to use the second 
one, and my sons is not till the end of April.  So I am patiently waiting.


My Env2 (bought used) has a flaky recharge circuit.  Sometimes it 
will only last a day and other times it will last for a few 
days.  This also affects the Bluetooth, so I cannot use bluetooth 
with it.  (drats!)


 I have looked at the Droid and the Devour.  Both nice phones and 
most reviews are pretty good.


I signed up for Borders rewards, so we will see.  The two for one is 
only available on Verizon's website.


Stewart


At 07:47 PM 3/31/2010, you wrote:

If you really want the Droid the best deal I've found is through the free
Borders Books Reward card.  The Borders Card has an associated club- Borders
Rewards Perks that offers a Droid for $50 for upgrading current subscribers
and $20 for new subs through Wirefly.  I've been holding off to see how the
Nexus will be offered at Verizon but my EnV is getting long in the tooth and
the battery even more so.

The word is that the Droid just got up graded to the current Android 2.1.
That is the biggest flaw in Android marketplace- The OS doesn't get upgraded
on many older phones so that an App that works on one version of the OS
might not work on another version of the OS.


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Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy

2010-03-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I don't do lightscribe.

I have two Epson printers that will print on CD/DVD's that are 
printable.  (inkjet)


Once I burn (I typically print first for large batches) I stick it in 
the printer, and print within 5 minutes.


I have a lightscribe external but never use the lightscribe feature.

Inkjet printables are easier and look nicer.

By the way HP has a nice CD/DVD printable printer out now.

Stewart


At 09:48 AM 3/29/2010, you wrote:
That's why I use lightscribe:  to make clients happy.  When I do the 
inevitable second pass, registration can be slightly off, and the 
software is buggy, often quits.  A nice idea, but 
unrealised:  should have ability to print on white, instead of that 
off-putting gold color - or worse; should be able to print a fulsome 
label in shorter than 21 minutes.  Hope an improvement is down the road...


I don't like lightscribe except for disks going to clients. Makes 
them happy. I use Staedtler Lumocolor pens for my disks and print 
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Re: [CGUYS] LCD HDTV

2010-03-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Who is he ordering from?

What idiot company is delivering?

Granted I have picked up all my flat screen TV's.

Stewart


At 09:45 PM 3/21/2010, you wrote:
My friend, Kurt, has one of those Samsung TVs. It's LCD with LED 
backlight. It's beautiful. It's ridiculously thin. I think it's 46. 
I want one.


He bought it online and made sure that he was home for delivery. 
First TV had broken screen; second TV was also damaged; third is 
fine. He's lucky that he could arrange his job so that he could be 
home. You may not be so fortunate when you're not home to receive 
and inspect a delivery.




Cost is much higher also.
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:14 PM, gerald slawecki ger...@slawecki.comwrote:

 why you want an lcd instead of an led.  the samsung(the only 
one i follow)

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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

My in-laws in Canada do the same thing.  Prepaid.

Stewart

At 10:50 PM 3/21/2010, you wrote:
I can get a prepaid SIM card for 3G data from Vodafone in Spain, 250 
MB, 29 euros; 400 MB, 49 euros. Fits in phone or PC card adapter for 
notebooks. Good for basic surfing while traveling. For phones with 
WiFi, the basic 3G service is all you need. Haven't been in Belgium 
since before mobiles. Home broadband is cheaper in France.


Cellular internet in many countries is with prepaid cards, not 
monthly plans, and is often cheaper that way. Home service is 
usually cheaper by the month, depending on the country.


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Re: [CGUYS] wireless broadband

2010-03-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Reverse it.

5 GB of usage, downloads  and data usage.

Any transfer to your computer (Even reading the cloud stuff) is 
considered a download.


300 MB uploads.

Any time you interact with the web you have downloads and uploads.

Stewart


At 01:24 PM 3/20/2010, you wrote:
My wife was looking at possibly getting wireless broadband from 
Sprint (her cell phone provider) for a trip this summer.  She 
started to ask me about what was meant by 5GB of usage a month.  I 
went to the web site and it stated 5GB/300MB off-network roaming 
per month I assume that this means 5GB of upload and 300MB of 
download per month. If I am correct this should be fine for 
her.  She is basically doing email (in the cloud) and surfing the 
web. She doesn't upload or download a lot of files.  Am I 
correct?  What should she be looking at it?

TIA

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

No you just do a lot of thinking, commendable.

Especially on this list.

Stewart


At 06:53 AM 3/17/2010, you wrote:

  Oops.  An extra I think in there.

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I remember guiding people over the phone on how to replace CMOS 
batteries almost 2 decades ago.


Not for the faint hearted.  System had to be running or you lost you settings.

Stewart

At 07:54 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:


 Someone decided that most computer users are not smart enough to
replace batteries.  They may be right!

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Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Spoken like a true fan.

Only time will tell on that one Tom.

But with Apple releasing a new version every couple of years of 
course you wont replace the battery, you just upgrade to a new 
version each time.


Stewart

At 07:43 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

Because Apple found that a hard to access battery could be made much
larger, hence more battery life. They also found that the latest
battery technology could give them batteries that lasted much longer
than the typical life of the device. Hence very few people will
actually need to ever change the battery. I think the made a smart
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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Vocation is a concept of calling, not indentured servitude.

Problem is in this day and age those vacancies are fewer and farther 
between, and do not offer a substantial increase.


We have over 6000 units (congregations) of various sizes.  (Episcopal 
church is similar)


At present we have only just over 300 calling (seeking) 
vacancies.  We are going to fill approximately half those vacancies 
with a new crop of ministers this spring.


What that means is, no movement at all or limited.

We also are increasing the number of permanent vacancies each 
week.  These are being filled with part-time or semi retired 
ministers.  (Lots of guys need the added income in retirement to pay 
for the medical insurance.)


So that is why we had such a volatile conversation.  I have no where 
to go, so I must make this situation work!


That is part of what Vocation is about.  Working where you are and 
doing the best possible job you can.  No matter what.


Stewart

(Not looking for sympathy, just stating the way it is.)

At 01:17 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:

Are these not both extremes? Wall Street banker vs fall guy. A while
back I was doing some IT work for an Episcopalian congregation. I
noticed that the higher ups were very much aware that the young,
energetic ministers would eventually get a better offer. I think that
was a good thing.


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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Technically it is.

I read a story this week, that stated that SS would start paying out 
more than it brought in.


That is the definition of bankruptcy.

As far as I know Medicare has been paying out more than it brings in 
every year.


However since it is a government benefit they pay it all out of current funds.

The caller was right but wrong at the same time.

The bills will still get paid.

Stewart




At 03:00 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:
No more unfair than what you wrote about government.


This morning as I switched on NPR I was assaulted by an idiot
screaming Medicare is bankrupt, everything the government does is
bankrupt.

Maybe the government should be building more insane asylums?


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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Glad to hear that Tom, problem is not many people live in your 
version of reality.


Stewart


At 05:05 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:


It's that time travel thing again. They are not, but they will,
therefore they are. Just not in my version of reality.


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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

You same story I read.

Medicare was never meant to be like SS where you have some supposed 
account set up and it pays out so much.


It was always funded out of current expenses.

Stewart




At 05:42 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_social_security_ious

I know Tom will come up with some Obama is God or something about right wing
nuts or neomicrosofticon plot...but this is from the AP.  Indeed...paying
more out than they bring in.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

 Technically it is.
 I read a story this week, that stated that SS would start paying out more
 than it brought in.
 That is the definition of bankruptcy.


 It's that time travel thing again. They are not, but they will, therefore
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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I don't give advice on how to live. I leave that for Dear Abby.

Ever wonder why they put astrology stuff on the same page or next to 
the comics?


One reality we cannot escape today we live tomorrow we shall die.

We just don't know when tomorrow will come.

Stewart


At 05:53 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:
Following your logic, since we will all be dead, we are dead. So we

might as well step off the cliff now.

Your thought process is just not a way to produce reliable results.
You might as well run your life by following the advice in an
astrology column.


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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Don't you just love the Wizard of Id?

Stewart

At 06:21 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:

Comics are REAL TOO??

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.

Answer me this question.

I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names, 
Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc.


Is there someplace where a neophyte can look these evolutions up?

Stewart


At 09:23 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:

I had one of those...once again Tom and I agree...damn ugly.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:04 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:29 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe that you have made an assumption that is incorrect.  I use
 the G3 I have mentioned pretty much only to have Freehand available
 and to interface with my plotter/cutter.


 The good for you. The only other down side I can think of is that ugly
 color of the case.


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Thanks helps a lot.

Stewart


At 10:14 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names,
 Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc.

 Is there someplace where a neophyte can look these evolutions up?

  Look here, Stewart:

http://www.everymac.com/


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Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me

2010-03-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

You go to good restaurants.

Battery prices will be all over the place.  Price is not always an 
indicator of quality, manufacturer is.


Much like designer clothes.  Very often made in the same factory to 
the same specs and a similar shirt, but with two wildly varying price tags.


I see where Foxconn makes a lot of parts for various Apple products. 
In the PC world their Motherboards are not considered that good.


Now that is not a slam on Foxconn.  Just goes to show you that out of 
the same manufacturer can come two varying qualities of products.


Smart car/Mercedes - Ford/Volvo - Rolls/Royce/Volkswagen etc. etc.


Stewart


At 09:02 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:
This is easy. The iPad is a giant iPod Touch. We can open up the 
Touch to change the battery. Why not the iPad? The biggest problem 
is finding a source for the right battery, instead of a cheap copy. 
The battery could cost $50 [the $5 one is worth 90% less], spudger 
is less than $5, and you save the rest by doing it yourself, just 
like any other computer repair. We'll have to see who has OEM batteries.


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Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Palms OS has evolved so far from that it is ridiculous.

I have had a Treo 600, 700W, Samsung 7?? and a Motorola Q9.

Treos were nice, but clunky.

Samsung was a slider, awkward.

Motorola was a great phone, only handicap was Windows Mobile 6.

The Androids look nice but I am still waiting for the Devour to premiere.

 Windows phones are evolving and the new Windows Mobile 7 (Zune) 
looks nice, but I do not want to wait till fall.


I am with Verizon and stick with them for coverage reasons.  (There 
is a point behind the Verizon commercials)


So I cannot expect to see an Iphone on the Verizon Network probably 
in my life time.


Stewart

At 06:55 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

I have only had one palm device ...a Palm IIIc ...wonderful device ...very
nice for carrying around a database I needed professionally ...had good
battery life ...could be backed up via an aftermarket thing that plugged
into its port and had a storage subroutine ...had a snap on camera ...it was
ahead of the curve for its time ...yet, I simultaneously had an IPAQ 3635
(same as 3650) which had windowsCE ...made the palm look like a toy...
meanwhile, my bro had a thing shaped like a PCMCIA card but had a screen and
keys and functioned as a PIM when pulled out of the computer...very cool and
ahead of its time too!! ...with that baby talk o/s, I am not at all
surprised it is going under ...just amazed it lasted this long.


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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

At 12:11 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote:
That happens when traitors and terrorists who hate government get

elected. I have been through several such cycles while living here in
the Capitol. When people get elected who believe that government can
make an important difference the results are quite different. I have
seen it first hand. You are just feeding us blind ideology in the
service of evil.


No it happens whenever you get people who rule on ideology instead of reality.


Totally bogus criticism. What happened in Haiti was on a totally
different scale than what happened in New Orleans. Nobody ever
imagined destruction on this scale. Aid could not be delivered
overland. It was a foreign country, the US had to work through their
government. It was an international effort, the US was one of many
participants.



Not bogus criticism. Leveled by some liberals grading the 
response.  They finally got it right, but it had to go through layers 
and bureaucrats before it got handled.



Why do preachers always take the side of the rich overlords? Why do
they always preach about turning the other cheek and tell the
oppressed that their lot in life is God's will? Why do they always
give their blessings to unjust wars, traitors, and terrorists? Why are
they never on the side of justice? Why do they tell Jesus to leave the
room?


Totally unfair criticism.  I criticize both sides, as it is a flawed 
human system.  All human systems will be flawed and will vacillate 
between one extreme and another.


Your definition of a traitor does not a traitor make.  Terrorists are 
terrorists they are on both sides, and are just as bad.


And quite honestly I would lump you in on rich overlords!  :-)

Jesus is quite solidly in the room.  Never left. just ignored because 
his message is not always welcome or wanted because it would trump everything.


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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Steve if I read Zinn correctly he would say all governmental services 
are supposed to be that, for service.


The problem is, once any thing becomes institutionalized it takes on 
a life of its own, and you soon must serve the institution, not the client.


It is indeed sad.

When you try to reorganize to start serving the client once more, 
many protest as you are changing a sacred system.


My wife and I had a very volatile discussion last night as she thinks 
it is unfair that I serve a group that does not see my worth or pay 
me accordingly and expect me to do all the work.


I told her that is how it is supposed to be, and that is what I 
signed on for.  I did not become a minister to adjust my work level 
on a sliding scale according to what I get paid.  They get it all and 
I do what they ask, as I am their servant.


When we started calling them jobs instead of vocation we lost the 
concept of service.


Stewart


At 06:49 AM 3/16/2010, you wrote:
 If memory and my history books are correct this has been a 
problem for eons.


  Perhaps this is a problem for us, but not for them.  After all, we
are here to serve them, are we not, or did your history book try to
convince you that it is really the other way around?  Let's read a
history book by historian Howard Zinn to see who really serves who.

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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
He would not have been the first nor only one.  It is sad, but with 
the flaw of human nature our selfish nature usually gets in the way.


Stewart


At 06:04 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote:

Howard Zinn also favored using history as a tool for directing social values
even at the expense of truth.


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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Everyone likes to interpret data to their advantage.  This list has 
been full of it over the years.


Data is simply data.  Remember the old saying statistics lie?  Well 
they do not really lie they just say what your research wanted it to say.


I live in Alabama (well we make the news a lot lately) and there is a 
Governors race plus a few other choice races in the state this year.


I occasionally get phone calls asking me to be part of a poll.  (I am 
not sure how I got on the list, but I am.)  I can tell who has 
sponsored the poll or what the poll is looking for in the way of data 
real fast.  Just by the way the questions are asked, and how the 
answers are phrased or limited.


If it is not a live person, I end up hanging up often or screwing 
with the poll as they will not let me give a true answer.


If it is a live person, I politely insist that my answer is neither., 
or non of the above very often when my choice is limited to yes or 
no, or a or b.


Data does not lie, it is the way it is obtained or used that lies.

Stewart



At 06:18 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote:

Correct...I suppose we should admire him for his honesty in telling everyone
he'll lie to get his ends.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 He would not have been the first nor only one.  It is sad, but with the
 flaw of human nature our selfish nature usually gets in the way.

 Stewart


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Re: [CGUYS] Your house is a dump!

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I thought it was jut my area.

They went through a major readdressing change when E911 came in.

My church has had at least three physical street addresses over the 
history of 50 years, but it has never moved.


Stewart


At 12:21 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

IS NOT!!

This site links to Google Maps, http://maps.google.com/, and does a 
poor job of showing your house.


I'm not sure whether Google deliberately points to the 
house/building/lot next door to whatever you seek. I checked an old 
address in Philly and the marker points to our former neighbor 
across the street on the north side, the one who said that we lived 
in a row house in South Philly and they lived in a townhouse in Center City.


Current map points to my next door neighbor's house.

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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

The problem is sometimes it is true.

Anyone want to talk about New Orleans and the aftermath of 
Katrina.  (Problems essentially caused by fouled up Corps of 
Engineers projects.)


Now I am not saying that they always mess up, but when they do it 
tends to be spectacular.


Stewart


At 02:06 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:
The stupidest and one of the most dangerous comments by any recent 
president was by Ronnie Raygun when he said, The nine most 
terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the 
government and I'm here to help.' It was a culmination of the 
corporate propaganda machine that wanted people to distrust/hate 
'gummint', thus increasing corporate power while limiting citizen power.


The wingnuts who want gummint out of the Internet forget that the 
Internet was an entirely government funded project, and remains 
partially funded through federal funds.


The Internet is mostly non-centralized, however ISP's gateways are 
not. There are now a relatively small number of large corporations 
controlling the gateways, trying to tell who is allowed to have 
service, and what service you're allowed to have. This opposition to 
universal broadband is simply bullsh*t. This propaganda is supported 
by the same nuts who are yelling Get the government out of my Medicare!


The government isn't the problem, except when it's run by 
corporations and wingnuts, as it has been mostly since Reagan was 
[s]elected. Better thank Al Gore for sponsoring the bills that gave 
government funding to expand [ARPANET] the Internet. Thank 
Eisenhower for the warnings--too bad not enough Americans listened 
or understood.


What about the completely intended consequences of deregulating 
financial markets that let to crashing the economy? Regulation is 
good. How about the states that regulate the rates that insurance 
companies are allowed to charge customers? Regulation is good. How 
about regulations that reduce pollution? Regulation is good. How 
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Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Not if you want to make phone calls.

http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/8-reasons-to-hate-ipad/

http://www.funnyordie.co.uk/videos/d2b714361c/hello

Stewart


At 01:59 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

40% of Blackberry users willing to trade in for an iPhone
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/03/40-of-blackberry-users-willing-to-trade-in-for-an-iphone.ars

BlackBerry users may be ready to move on to other smartphone
platforms, suggesting that RIM isn't keeping up with consumer demand
in its efforts to combat growing encroachment from the likes of iPhone
and Android. In fact, two in five BlackBerry owners plan to swap their
current device for an iPhone when it's time to upgrade, according to
market researcher firm Crowd Science.

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Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have seriously looked at Palms new phones.  Just not sure what I 
want to do right now.


Stewart


At 02:18 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

Holding something the size of a poptart to your face to talk is one
thing...holding something the size of a pan of lasagna is another.

Palm is also on the brink, as noted in that email I sent a few days
ago...Palm is even brinkier even.


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Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Well I am on Verizon so they have been out for a little while.

Plus these are beefed up versions with a lot more memory than the 
Spint cousins. (8 GB)


Stewart


At 03:10 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

I have a friend who got a palm when they came out...he's had 3 due to faulty
screens, lockups and general bad luck.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I have seriously looked at Palms new phones.  Just not sure what I want to
 do right now.

 Stewart



 At 02:18 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

 Holding something the size of a poptart to your face to talk is one
 thing...holding something the size of a pan of lasagna is another.

 Palm is also on the brink, as noted in that email I sent a few days
 ago...Palm is even brinkier even.


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Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I will not buy a touch screen only phone.  I want a physical keyboard.

Not because I like keyboards that much but when you start having 
problems with the screen it is nice to have a physical backup.


Stewart


At 03:51 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

The OS is pretty nice, although my friend has lost his contacts several
times because of Palm outages...but other than that pretty robust.  I've
thought since they were released that the pixi and pre were both horridly
designed phones, sharp edges on the pre and the small screen on the pixi,
no microSD card slot to be found.  If you are going with Verizon, take a
look at the Eris(Hero) running android.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Well I am on Verizon so they have been out for a little while.

 Plus these are beefed up versions with a lot more memory than the Spint
 cousins. (8 GB)

 Stewart



 At 03:10 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

 I have a friend who got a palm when they came out...he's had 3 due to
 faulty
 screens, lockups and general bad luck.

 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
 popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

  I have seriously looked at Palms new phones.  Just not sure what I want
 to
  do right now.
 
  Stewart
 
 
 
  At 02:18 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:
 
  Holding something the size of a poptart to your face to talk is one
  thing...holding something the size of a pan of lasagna is another.
 
  Palm is also on the brink, as noted in that email I sent a few days
  ago...Palm is even brinkier even.
 
 
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Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Mac or PC?

I use Software 995.  (Paid version.) PC

Stewart


At 04:45 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

I've showed my wife how to use PDF Creator, it seems
to have at least a few limitations:
 - has to be run as an Administrator
 - it only will print one page, there's no error
   message, it's just that nothing happens until
   you cancel the print job and get a dialog and
   get a single page

I did print out an 8 page document on Valeries PC one
page at a time, transfer them to the Mac with a stick
and then used my Mac to combine them into one file.
Obviously this is horrible.  Does anyone have a good,
inexpensive piece of PDF file creation s/w that doesn't
need admin priv's, etc.

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Take care  | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't
Wayne D.   | supply this, at least not directly
Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch!


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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Don't blame it all on wingnuts.

I lived in LA for years.  NO was a corrupt cesspool and everything 
was under funded but over paid, due to graft and pay offs.  Nothing 
could get done without the right connections.


Plus the response of both the Governor and the Mayor were 
spectacularly stupid.  There is a reason Blanco did not run for reelection.


Stewart


At 04:49 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:
If the wingnut propaganda were true, this would not have happened. The

government would have soaked us for lots of dough to build huge
bulwarks against the elements -- just like they built in Holland.
Instead the bulwarks were under funded and under engineered, following
the don't tax me mantra of the wingnuts. And the poor response
afterwards was run by wingnuts too. Remember You are doing a fine job
Brownie.? In the years prior FEMA had been gutted. The professionals
had been pushed out and replaced by pols and frat brothers. This was a
wingnut operation through and through.


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Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

But Tom you have the right connectors on it for that.

Stewart


At 05:00 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:
My iMac 27 is a heck of a lot larger than an iPad yet we find it is

terrific for phone calls.

No, I do not walk around with it pressed to my ear. We do not have to
continue to use telephones exactly in the manner of 1876.


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Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

PDF995 (Part of Software995 Suite)

Installs as a print drive and when you click print select PDF and you have it.

Love the program.  It is not expensive and you get some nice utilities with it.

It will work out of any program even Word Perfect.

Stewart


At 06:32 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

Rev. Stewart Marshall
 Mac or PC?

 I use Software 995.  (Paid version.) PC

Valerie insists on a PC with WordPerfect.  Me, I
use a Mac that includes PDF creation as a service.

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Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Upgrade to the new version and it has a pleasant voice, plus the 
registration is easy, right in the program, no longer need to go to 
web and have them email you number.


Still the same nice price, FREE.

Stewart


At 07:02 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

I use avast ...it works fine ...no ads ...updates are unobtrusive, but the
voice that announces it was annoying so I edited the .wav file to keep just
the ding and it works great...

-Original Message-
From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: AVG free update attack?

Who knows. These days I use and recommend MS Security Essentials. It too has
to update occasionally, but it's nowhere near as annoying as any of the
other free AVs that try to use the occasion for advertising.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, John Emmerling
jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote:

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Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

There is another reason behind this.

Every manufacture is stuck with units that get returned, have minor 
problems and need fixes.  What do you do with all these refurbished 
items?  You can sell them on the secondary market, or you can recycle 
them by requiring units with dead batteries get returned and sending 
out refurbed units.


Just make sure you do a backup and remember what your settings are.

By not putting your refurbs on the secondary market you keep the 
price higher and control the market for your device.


Sounds just like Apple.

Stewart


At 07:24 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

The apple offer to replace the ipad with another one if the battery
doesn't hold a charge for $100 is a joke .so you get some refurb someone
else slimed upon .why does everything else accommodate a battery change that
you can get from china via ebay for around $5 and apple needs to have their
thing back and give you another one someone turned in.  It's a horrible
idea!  Now, that ipad could have had an induction charge that would have
lead to charge stations in your car's dashboard or airport waiting areas or
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Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Tom most governmental positions that are not controlled by Civil 
Service law are filled with pols frat boys and sorority sisters.


That is how government works, unfortunately.

I cant remember how many positions that are filled when a new 
administration comes in, but it is huge.


I just read an article on the governments response to Haiti and it 
was mildly critical on how it all operated.


It took just over 2 weeks for the government to declare a medical 
emergency (Cant remember correct term) for the evacuation of the 
injured from Haiti, and it only did so  when pressed by Florida when 
it began dumping all the patients on Florida's hospitals.


Does not sound like they have their act together that much better 
than the Bush administration.  But that is not untypical for government.


In a parliamentary system all minsters plus the prime minister are 
part of the system that makes laws and votes on them.  plus there are 
weekly question periods.


I loved to listen to the Canadian parliaments question session, quite 
interesting.


What I am getting at is that they tend to be a little more responsive 
to stuff as they are constantly in the thick of it, and not one step 
removed.  (and another secret, most of the good work is done behind 
the scenes by regular civil service types, permanent employees not appointees.)


Stewart





At 07:38 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:
No, it isn't always. When government agencies get packed with pols and

frat boys you don't have the experience and intelligence necessary to
do a good job. I have watched it happen from close range. I worked for
12 years on environmental policy. Yes, I saw some very poorly drafted
regulations. But I also watched the regulations get revised year after
year getting better and better. Eventually they were getting almost
everything right. Then the administration changed and wingnuts took
over again. The hunted down the smart people, transferred them,
demoted them, gave them busy work, etc. Key positions got filled by
pols and frat boys who deliberately destroyed the hard work that had
been done. It was very sad. I really do mean it when I call these
wingnuts traitors and terrorists.

I see the current administration being unusually adept at putting good
people in key positions. In particular I see them getting things right
with IT and communications technology. I don't think your expectation
of poor performance is warranted.


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Re: [CGUYS] recovery.gov zip codes

2010-03-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

You mean like Birth certificates and such?

Stewart


At 10:39 AM 3/14/2010, you wrote:
Yeah, I'm with you. This appears to be a complete nonstory. As 
several references note, all of the awards going to the erroneous 
zip codes can easily be tracked to their correct zip codes right on the
recovery.gov site. This is nothing but someone writing or keying the 
wrong zip code for an award, and someone else not bothering to take 
the extra two minutes required to figure out what actually

happened (I'm looking at you, John Stossel).

Of course, this doesn't stop the right wing bloggers and 
comment-writers from foaming at the mouth about billions of dollars 
in stimulus money having vanished.


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Re: [CGUYS] recovery.gov zip codes

2010-03-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I call them something else, very quietly.

Stewart


At 04:23 PM 3/14/2010, you wrote:

On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

You mean like Birth certificates and such?


We have birthers and truthers. Do we call them zippers?


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Re: [CGUYS] TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

2010-03-13 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

At one time they recommended this for AOL users.

My Eudora will usually follow a broken link.

What I also like is that with a false link, I can place my mouse over 
it, and see the true link in Eudora.  Tells me when I have a false link.


Stewart


At 02:33 PM 3/13/2010, you wrote:

While long naked URLs are broken in Thunderbird, the link will be
preserved if the URL is wrapped in  , and this is the case for every
email program I've heard of.  Example:

with  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/12/AR2010031203974.html?hpid=sec-tech

without  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/12/AR2010031203974.html?hpid=sec-tech

So, aside from cases where there are character limits like twitter,
it is actually easier to not use URL shorteners.



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 Subject: Re: TinyURLs [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure]

 John Emmerling wrote:
 What real purpose does tinyurl really serve nowadays?  Don't
 up-to-date mail readers handle URLs of any arbitrary length with no
 problem?

 I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird for email.  Very long web addresses are
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Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Read what I wrote.

1.5 are at that price level.  I never said 2 TB are not here.  But 
right now they are at a premium price.


I saw a 1.5 TB drive advertised for $99.00 so I expect 2 TB drives to 
be at that price by next year.


There is a price mark that determines how much those drives will sell.

Stewart


At 05:08 AM 3/12/2010, you wrote:

In the 3.5 format, 2 TB disk drives are already here.  Here is a review
for one model:
http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_constellation_es_2tb_review


Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-

Right now 1.5 TB drives are at the price level to make them a
consumer level drive.

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Re: [CGUYS] FCC wants to measure

2010-03-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Wingnuts of any kind are still wingnuts.

Let them just fly away.

Stewart


At 12:22 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote:

On Mar 12, 2010, at 12:09 PM, mike wrote:

I'm not blasting the Obama government on this, just government waste
in
general.  Kinda like the 70k? plus in debit cards that disappeared
during
katrina.  ...but if we are honest there are pallets of money
literally (remember
iraq) that disappear.


But that was wing nuts driving around with palettes of $100s. I would
have thought you would be for that. An efficient redistribution of
wealth to those who are already wealthy.


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Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That is not just an MS issue but also a hardware manufacture issue.

The largest consumer drives right now are 1.5 TB.  If I remember XP 
will be non supported in a few years.


I expect MS will come up with a programming fix for this.

XP was released when?  I do not think they thought far enough in the 
future to see the limitations of Disk size that are mentioned.


I am Glad that Mac's do not have this, but they also have been 
releasing more new releases of their OS that Windows have.


Also the Intel Mac is how old?

Stewart



At 09:47 AM 3/11/2010, you wrote:

Tom, I was happy to read that OS X does not have this issue
(accommodates sectors larger than 512 bytes).  The article explained
this as a BIOS issue in Windows and said Vista, W7 have work-around
fixes.  MS has not endorsed replacing BIOS with EFI, have they?

Thank you,
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Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I agree the present IBM platform has been around over a decade.

MS does not control the platform but they do control the OS and they 
can be more proactive in getting hardware folks to change.


I give the article that much.

I remember when I had to start dumping my old AT style cases when ATX 
came in.  that has been slowly upgraded to include new stuff.


I know Intel tried to come out with a new BTX format, but that did 
not get a lot of foothold.


The BIOS issue is another thing, and I would hope that a better way 
of managing the system resources could be done.


That really does need to be updated.

Stewart


At 10:15 AM 3/11/2010, you wrote:

Apple relased the first intel/EFI based mac in 2006.  Again this is much
easier when you control the entire platform as Apple does.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 That is not just an MS issue but also a hardware manufacture issue.

 The largest consumer drives right now are 1.5 TB.  If I remember XP will be
 non supported in a few years.

 I expect MS will come up with a programming fix for this.

 XP was released when?  I do not think they thought far enough in the future
 to see the limitations of Disk size that are mentioned.

 I am Glad that Mac's do not have this, but they also have been releasing
 more new releases of their OS that Windows have.

 Also the Intel Mac is how old?

 Stewart




 At 09:47 AM 3/11/2010, you wrote:

 Tom, I was happy to read that OS X does not have this issue
 (accommodates sectors larger than 512 bytes).  The article explained
 this as a BIOS issue in Windows and said Vista, W7 have work-around
 fixes.  MS has not endorsed replacing BIOS with EFI, have they?

 Thank you,
 Mark Snyder


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Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

The IT issue is not all that clear.

Apparently they may have not that info at hand when they were told 
what one to access.


remember in some of these cases, compartmented information is a real issue.

Stewart

At 12:15 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote:
The IT creeps who spied on the students had to know who they were 
watching [MAC address, installed software, etc]. Since the 
administration also knew who had the computers, it was their 
responsibility to contact the parents, as it was also the parents' 
responsibility to pay the insurance fee--if they could afford it. 
There are areas with low-income families in the district [Ardmore, 
Narberth], as well as students who are bused into the schools--no 
excuse, but not everyone in the district is upper middle class.


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] M$'s HD Mess

2010-03-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

You have a point but only because Apple has made the old hardware obsolete.

Again MS does not control the hardware.

However they should make a fix for this.

Right now 1.5 TB drives are at the price level to make them a 
consumer level drive.


Within a year 2 TB drives will be there.

Kind of reminds me of when 1 GB drives outstripped conventional MB 
drives and the motherboards did not support them.


On the PC side hardware always seems to lag behind.

Stewart



At 07:41 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote:

Big difference. You are comparing Apple's support of an old OS version
that almost nobody uses to M$ support of the most popular version of
Windows. That is a huge difference that just about everybody except
you will not fail to notice.



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