Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-28 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow wrote: So what does all this healthcare debate on The Computer Guys listserv have to do with computers? Nothing and everything. The issues are very similar to past discussions about broadband policy: should the government intervene i

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-28 Thread Jeff Miles
Look into Healtheon. Jeff M On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow wrote: So what does all this healthcare debate on The Computer Guys listserv have to do with computers? * ** List info

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-28 Thread Jordan
Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow wrote: So what does all this healthcare debate on The Computer Guys listserv have to do with computers? Uumm... if we didn't have to pay so much for healthcare, we could get better computers. Not to mention better food and other good stuff. Well, some of us co

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow wrote: > So what does all this healthcare debate on The Computer Guys listserv have to > do with computers? I've got carpal tunnel syndrome from using my computer keyboard. I am not insured for this medical problem, and it is going

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-28 Thread Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow
So what does all this healthcare debate on The Computer Guys listserv have to do with computers? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-28 Thread chad evans wyatt
Likewise, in the Czech Republic - only for longer.  There, families also have maternity leave that can last for a year, with return to one's job.   Two years, but not to the same guaranteed position. --- On Tue, 7/28/09, TPiwowar wrote: From: TPiwowar Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care d

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-28 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:06 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Germany uses less than 11% of GDP for health care, but it's better than in the US where it's well over 15% of GDP and rising fast. In Germany they will send you to a spa for a week if you convince the doctor that you are too stressed at work.

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I had no problems with the Canadian System and knew of no major problems, except the province always seemed to lowball the hospitals. Doctors made out OK and made bucks (Although not as high as American doctors) But I did not see a doctor living in poverty or going in need. I do plan on ta

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread Marcio
I have been in Canada many times. Ask the Canadians if they want the US Sstem... You make sense! Marcio -Original Message- >From: b_s-wilk >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 10:06 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate > >Did you like the Ca

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread Marcio
MPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate > >On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Rev. S Marshall wrote: >> The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market- >> based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health >> care. &g

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread Marcio
Of course: less care...more profits... Marcio -Original Message- >From: db >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 5:40 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate > >I think people's health interests and a insurance company's profits are &

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread Marcio
If you want a health system for the American people,tell this representive that he just lost your vote. Marcio -Original Message- >From: Jordan >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 4:04 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate > >If he is

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread b_s-wilk
Did you like the Canadian system when you lived there? Have you contacted your congessman to show support for public/private system? Which company 'owns' him? Countries that have the best health care systems have universal health care with a combination of public and private [nonprofit] insur

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread db
I think people's health interests and a insurance company's profits are counter opposed. There is no such thing as too being too healthy and well cared or too much profit. Since less benefits means more profits they really aren't decent bedfellows. One benefits at the expense of the other an

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Rev. S Marshall wrote: The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market- based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health care. If I were getting campaign contributions from insurance company executives who were paying themselves $

Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
If he is against the public option then he is against the people of this country and for the greedy corporations that make the costs so high. These costs are born by everyone now, including the small businesses and individuals he claims to be concerned about. But I suspect you know this. Rev.

[CGUYS] Health care debate

2009-07-26 Thread Rev. S Marshall
On the recent health care comments. I got this from my congressman this weekend. Note he is one of those blue dog democrats mentioned frequently on TV. ---quote To be clear, I would vote against the bill if it came to a floor vote in its current form. I hav