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2007-12-20 Thread Paul Meyer
Tom, I assume NAC's are the same thing as NACK's (neg*ACK). Do CS and EE tribes use a different abbreviation? -P Paula Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom P said: Normally, DSL should not do that. This implies that some bandwidth is being consumed by NACs. The speed measuring sites do not seem

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2007-12-18 Thread Paula Minor
Tom P said: Normally, DSL should not do that. This implies that some bandwidth is being consumed by NACs. The speed measuring sites do not seem to register NACs. Tom, what is NAC? I just checked the DSL speed and it was 962 down...and less than a minute later it was 2280 down. But no matter

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2007-12-18 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
You can go to verizon.com and they will tell you if you qualify for FIOS which certainly faster than cable and DSL and less expensive than COX for internet. On Dec 18, 2007 5:15 PM, Paula Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric said: I have one question for Paula. Are you in Verizon territory?

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2007-12-18 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Paula Minor wrote: Tom P said: Normally, DSL should not do that. This implies that some bandwidth is being consumed by NACs. The speed measuring sites do not seem to register NACs. Tom, what is NAC? I think he means what I call NAK or Negative AcKnowledgement. In TCP,

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2007-12-16 Thread mike
with telcos. - Original Message - From: Jeff Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update I'm the furthest from

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2007-12-16 Thread Paula Minor
Mike said: It's only anecdotal but I've heard from many people across the country with DSL that they almost always get the lesser service then what they pay for on average. This is exactly what she described. When she dropped it to the service she was actually getting, the actual speed

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2007-12-16 Thread Jordan
I know this goes against what the cable company says, and what we all believe, but the last few times I've had a problem with my cable connection I've had to use the opposite turn on order to get it going again. Yes, I'm saying I turned on the router and then the modem. If nothing else works,

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2007-12-16 Thread Tom Piwowar
It's only anecdotal but I've heard from many people across the country with DSL that they almost always get the lesser service then what they pay for on average. I have never seen any DSL connection speed presented as an average rate. It is usually presented as an up to rate, which is

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2007-12-16 Thread John DeCarlo
On Dec 16, 2007 1:35 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience DSL rates are fairly constant. You get what you pay for, no more and no less. Most people I know with DSL find fairly constanct rates. But I know a few who apparently have some sort of issues with the copper wire

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2007-12-16 Thread Jeff Wright
My d/l rates with Comcast have been fairly consistent over the years. It's rare that I find a large d/l much below the advertised 6 MB rate, unless it's a server I know to throttle their outbound bandwidth. -Original Message- I have never seen any DSL connection speed presented as an

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2007-12-16 Thread Eric S. Sande
Most people I know with DSL find fairly constanct rates. But I know a few who apparently have some sort of issues with the copper wire from the CO to the house. Rain can really lower their data rate. Yep. The primary limitation of DSL is line loss. If I am the provider, I can set your cap

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2007-12-16 Thread Mike Sloane
I don't believe what you wrote is 100% true. What can happen with copper pairs is that interference (water, squirrels chewing, corrosion, etc.) or noise causes damaged and or dropped packets, and these create requests for re-sends of those packets. So your throughput in terms of packets per

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2007-12-16 Thread Eric S. Sande
don't believe what you wrote is 100% true. OK, it wasn't a tutorial in network topology. :-) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL

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2007-12-16 Thread Tom Piwowar
What can happen with copper pairs is that interference (water, squirrels chewing, corrosion, etc.) or noise causes damaged and or dropped packets, and these create requests for re-sends of those packets. So your throughput in terms of packets per second goes down, which is interpreted by the

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2007-12-15 Thread Paula Minor
I decided to go ahead and set up the ATT DSL and see if I liked it. I had signed up for the elite service which was to give me up to 6000kb/s. Of course she didn't tell me up to but said I'd get 6000 kb/s. I managed to figure out how to turn off the wireless in the ATT modem so I could

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2007-12-15 Thread mike
You can have both, but after the AT$T experience I'd say dump it. The problems you are having are not unusual..AT$T's motto is 'we aren't happy till you aren't happy.' I didn't make that up, I stole it from a podcast. If your cable modem is like mine it has several lights. One of them should

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2007-12-15 Thread John DeCarlo
Paula, For getting cable set back up, here are some thoughts for simple steps: 1. Turn off the Cable Modem. 2. Turn off the Apple Airport Extreme router. 3. Turn on the Cable Modem. 4. Look for the Cable Modem light to indicate it is connected. On mine, it is the cable light of the four. 5.

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2007-12-15 Thread Paula Minor
Mike said: .AT$T's motto is 'we aren't happy till you aren't happy.' Funny but sad. I will say that everyone I worked with was very nice and tried hard to make sure everything was going as it should...tho they did screw up the initial order requiring me to cancel everything and start

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2007-12-15 Thread Jeff Miles
I'm the furthest from an expert, but in the past have dabbled in both the DSL and Cable. I've stuck with cable. I have absolutely no qualifications in this, but only what I've been told. Cable works in blocks and depending on how many people are connected to your block at the time you are

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2007-12-15 Thread Eric S. Sande
confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update I'm the furthest from an expert, but in the past have dabbled in both the DSL and Cable. I've stuck with cable. I have absolutely no qualifications in this, but only what I've been told. Cable works in blocks