On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:33 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:
I wasn't arguing that if you offered someone a free Mac but said
they could
never use Windows again, that they would switch immediately.
My point was that while there are people afraid to switch or just
don't have
the time to learn
On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:25 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:
I have heard of people in the 80s and 90s not sure of using a Mac,
but have
not run across anyone who wouldn't be willing to use a Mac in years.
I am assumed that you are referring to the 1980's and 1990's as
opposed to persons in their
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:25 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:
I have heard of people in the 80s and 90s not sure of using a Mac, but
have
not run across anyone who wouldn't be willing to use a Mac in years.
I am assumed that you
As you say, MS customers would not be be so smart.
Tom says:
MS plays on their insecurity by telling them that they have to be smart to
use Xnix. (Obviously a MS customer would not be so smart.) They point to
all the flavors of Xnix and make it sound like every one is wildly
different. Who will
You will also see lots of Macs used by scientists. If you watch science
programs like Nova or the occasional/rare news report about something
scientific you will commonly see that the person who just made a
scientific breakthrough did it with a Mac. Second choice is Xnix.
As I said before,
Actually, the most productive people are those who don't get sucked into
another one of Tom's or John's silly, adolescent pissing matches, yet again.
WFBs get so emotional as Microsoft slips into irrelevance. They would
play ostrich while significant changes are occurring in the computer
WFBs get so emotional as Microsoft slips into irrelevance. They would
play ostrich while significant changes are occurring in the computer
industry. I think it is much more useful to pay attention. This is all
so fascinating.
One must argue with you to be paying attention? Oh my. This level
I guess that Macs have always been seen as appealing to folks of a
countercultural nature or to those who would be different, as the
Mac ads say. I also think that is a big reason that many steer clear
of Macs.
You will also see lots of Macs used by scientists. If you watch science
programs
Where do you get this stuff?
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I said before, people who get to choose their own computers to perform
work care about will overwhelmingly choose Macs. People who use Macs
outperform those who use Windows.
Where do you get this stuff?
You need to get out more.
Expand your reading beyond Microsoft Security Bulletins.
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Probably need to drink the Steve Jobs koolaid too but I'm not really going
there.
Mike
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where do you get this stuff?
You need to get out more.
Expand your reading beyond Microsoft Security Bulletins.
Start by watching some science programs on TV.
There are other types of real life shows where you'll see that creative
people often have a Mac.
mike wrote:
Where do you get this stuff?
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I said before, people who
Well that's proof. Tv. lol.
Mike
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Start by watching some science programs on TV.
There are other types of real life shows where you'll see that creative
people often have a Mac.
mike wrote:
Where do you get this stuff?
I get tired of FUD of various types being spread like someone is driving a
john deere around the listserv. And then when challanged all we get is go
find it yourself it's obviously right.
I don't count just anecdotal evidence of bloggers as reputable
studies...three result pages of google search
You know you're just feeding the trolls, don't you? A simple notice to
newbies that there is a very small group of rabid Mac fans on here that
often post just to rile people up would suffice.
I suppose it's a good thing this list doesn't have rules against trolls.
Where else would we get some of
Or for my sake apparently, feeding them.
Mike
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know you're just feeding the trolls, don't you? A simple notice to
newbies that there is a very small group of rabid Mac fans on here that
often post just to rile people up
I'd be better at this if I was more defensive about the computer I use.
Keep on keepin on, John.
Mike
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:28 PM, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike,
Tony is right. I should ignore your trolling. You have no fact, not even
rumors or anecdotes, to back you up.
Well that's proof. Tv. lol.
Mike thinks those Macs you see on Nova are CGIs.
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FUD doesn't work. If your work bright and shiny on a mac good for you. Others
have just as much productivity on windows or linux or solaris...whatever tool
that works for them.
The point was made the Xnix would be a far better platform for POS than
either Mac or Windows. To which I heartily
Where exactly did I cast these aspersions? And I never brought up Trolls
for that matter either. I don't care what tool works best for you. I can't
figure out why the few mac users here care so much when something other then
macs work well for other people. I just get tired of baseless broad
The real interesting bit out of this is Apple's use of windows ce as their
POSgosh that's funny isn't it?
Not really. There is no alternative PDA POS. The only thing that is funny
is your expectation that they would do something stupid.
One general area of the business world where one can find many
Macintosh machines is in the arena of the arts. I am speaking of the
creative arts, to include the world of graphic artists and designers
as well as movies and digital graphics. Music as well.
Also, I have noticed that
The reason they have the lions share in this realm is that they were
the first and the best in this area.
They also had the lions share of publishing jobs. I remember back
when every newspaper used nothing but Mac's to layout and set their
paper. Even the small weekly my wife worked for 10
Interestingly, I see a lot of businesses that have standardized on Windows,
often one hardware vendor like Dell. But in all those businesses, including
my own company, there are a significant number of Mac users. They figure
out some way around the general policy.
And when I go to a business
I also think that is a big reason that many steer clear
of Macs.
Only if they've never been on this list.
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