are only practical
as supplements to another system.
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From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:56 PM
On Sat
: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
If you plug in magic jack on computer, internal mic and spkr are all you
need (I have IBM Thinkpad). Needs no fone. Dial on screen with mouse or
via phonebook.
-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:21 PM
and open them with Nero. I also cancall
my number at MagicJack and listen to the messages and erase them.
Marcio
-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com
Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
Yes and no. If you
Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free.
Marcio
-Original Message-
From: t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com
Sent: Jan 2, 2010 3:00 AM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
Don't forget that you can also get VOIP services like Skype at zero
cost
On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Marcio wrote:
Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free.
You old folks may not have noticed, but a modern household is going to
have a small computer sitting where the telephone used to sit. It will
be running Skype 24/7.
I have it. I used it in Europe with an IBM x31 notebook with dsl speed
internet ...it is flawless! No fone needed, used computer speakers and mic
...but, of course, you need to have the computer on and connected to a wifi
source to use it. I also have phonepower.com device at home. Computer
If you plug in magic jack on computer, internal mic and spkr are all you
need (I have IBM Thinkpad). Needs no fone. Dial on screen with mouse or
via phonebook.
-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: MagicJack: a
by e-mail and open them with Nero. I also cancall
my number at MagicJack and listen to the messages and erase them.
Marcio
-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com
Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
Yes
All that confirmed.
-Original Message-
From: Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow [mailto:noodni...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: MagicJack
Stewart says:
None of the major VOIP carriers offer a local number so it is of no
use for incoming. As I already bundle my
Phonepower.com works without computer and the 911 feature works.
-Original Message-
From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question
Actually, that's two questions. First, you may use your existing
telephones with MJ,
fine.
Marcio
-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com
Sent: Jan 1, 2010 9:21 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
The most modern phone you have that works on POTS is a corded handset. I
suspect one could also use a cordless
Skype only free when recipient also has skype ...
-Original Message-
From: t.piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question
Don't forget that you can also get VOIP services like Skype at zero
cost.
They make skype fones.
Best solution is skype on your ifone or wm smartphone and pirate off
neighbors unsecured wifi .hehee! ...after all is saiddone, when att and
others get permission to get ridda pots ( some eyesore poles/wires), there
may be a move afoot to make everyone who gets wifi for
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, rleesimon wrote:
They make skype fones.
I looked, but don't see the point. Computer has great mic and camera
and big screen already built in. Why pay money for something that does
so much less and still needs to be connected to a computer?
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:40 PM, rleesimon wrote:
Skype only free when recipient also has skype ...
You think it takes a lot of arm twisting to get somebody to sign up
for a service that is free and saves them money?
*
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the idea is you can then take your free skype connection and walk around the
house instead of being tied to the kitchen...or wherever you are keeping
your computer.
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, rleesimon wrote:
They make skype fones.
I've been looking for a Skype phone that isn't cordless/wireless (has a wired
handset, and connects to my router with an Ethernet Cat-5 cable). Last time I
looked (a couple of months ago), I couldn't find one. Using Google. Or the
specs available on the web weren't such that I could tell
secured?
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:
I've been looking for a Skype phone that isn't cordless/wireless (has a
wired handset, and connects to my router with an Ethernet Cat-5 cable).
Last time I looked (a couple of months ago), I couldn't find one.
Self contained stand alone skype fones for people with cable tv and get a
bundled wifi or wired dsl or net and don't use the computer or want one or
only have one in the kids' room...
-Original Message-
From: tjpa [mailto:t...@tjpa.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:27 PM
Subject:
On Jan 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, what if that computer is a Windows machine? Isn't it going to
be locking up, crashing or falling victim to viruses all the time?
How the heck could that thing possibly be up and running 24/7?
Gosh, I wasn't thinking about Windows.
My mom is old...she skypes the daughter to see her and her grandson. Course
old is always relative.
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:06 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, what if that computer is a Windows machine? Isn't it going to
be locking
For free?...
Marcio
-Original Message-
From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com
Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:24 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Marcio wrote:
Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free.
You old folks may not have
I am not sure how this can be done. In the Magic Jack devise there is an outlet
for the phone line.
Marcio
-Original Message-
From: rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:30 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
If you plug
In the 2010 February issue of Consumer Reports, there are tests of 15
items sold on TV infomercials that use hard-sell language. As one may
suspect, most items did not live up to the claims made therein. But one
got a favorable review, the MagicJack for connecting to VoIP. The
review
does one have reliable 911 with VoIP?
thought one needed a landline for reliable, available 911.
Pls. help me with this issue!
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.comwrote:
In the 2010 February issue of Consumer Reports, there are tests of 15 items
sold on TV
carrollcompu...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 1, 2010 6:00 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
In the 2010 February issue of Consumer Reports, there are tests of 15
items sold on TV infomercials that use hard-sell language. As one may
suspect, most items did not live
There was a FCC directive on this some time ago that required VOIP
providers to give reliable 911 service. Check with the provider to make sure.
I am pretty certain Vonage and them had to do so, or shut down.
This even came up with Cell phone this year locally when it came out
that some of
In answer to your questions:
Whenever you sign up for a VOIP service you are assigned a phone
number. They will give you (A.) a number based on the closest local
exchange they offer. or (B.) a number based in an area code you
choose, again based on the closest local exchange they offer.
I use MagicJack as a second phone line for making outgoing calls. It works fine
for me most of the time, but sometimes the call breaks up like some cell
phone calls do. Not as reliable as POTS. It also requires a running computer
to connect to the Internet. If you leave your computer on
I've used one for a couple of years now. Generally it works very well although
occasionally the sounds is a little garbled or a syllable may be dropped or
I'll hear an echo. On rare occasion I'll have to call the party again and get
a cleaner connection. I have Fios for internet
I have looked into all of these and at present it makes no sense to me.
None of the major VOIP carriers offer a local number so it is of no
use for incoming. As I already bundle my phone service and have
unlimited dialing plus all the calling features plus have an
international plan it makes
Yes and no. If you leave your VOIP (e.g. MagicJack) always at one specific
premises and register that premises with that telephone number at 911 (there is
a process for doing this), then you will have reliable 911 service, just as
landline numbers are registered with 911 (but the registration
Cell phones with GPS can report their location exactly. Primitive cell phones
can only report what tower they are currently connected to. The issue with 911
service is how to handle a phone that is mobile, i.e., is used away from home.
MagicJack can be used away from home. Connect it to
At 06:39 PM 1/1/2010, Robert Carroll wrote:
(1) Is there a source for info about VoIP in general, not just related to
MagicJack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOIP
Google VOIP.
Google whatever terms you don't understand when reading about VOIP.
The most modern phone you have that works on POTS is a corded handset. I
suspect one could also use a cordless handset, if one were to plug the base
station into the MagicJack. (just as the base station is plugged into the
RJ-11 wall outlet the same way that a corded handset is plugged into a
Stewart says:
None of the major VOIP carriers offer a local number so it is of no
use for incoming. As I already bundle my phone service and have
unlimited dialing plus all the calling features plus have an
international plan it makes no financial sense to me.
Until a VOIP service offers
202 may be local, but mine is 334 which includes Montgomery (90 miles
away) and a variety of other areas not even close. I can only dial 2
different exchanges and get a local call. Since my members all call
my home # I need to keep it.
Once the new cable company comes in this might change
carrollcompu...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 1, 2010 6:39 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
For my earlier message, a P.S.
(1) Is there a source for info about VoIP in general, not just related
to MagicJack. I am under the impression that only those who make
I have a Vtech cordless phone with two basis. Work fine.
Marcio
-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com
Sent: Jan 1, 2010 9:21 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
The most modern phone you have that works on POTS is a corded
Actually, that's two questions. First, you may use your existing
telephones with MJ, but you don't have to. It comes with an interface
that easily switches to headset so any headset (or mic and speakers)
can work.
No, pulse dialing is ancient history. You could not dial a number from
a rotary
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Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:46 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack
I've used one for a couple of years now. Generally it works very well
although occasionally the sounds is a little garbled or a syllable may be
dropped or I'll hear an echo. On rare occasion I'll
Yes, Fred I get the messages by e-mail and open them with Nero. I also cancall
my number at MagicJack and listen to the messages and erase them.
Marcio
-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com
Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS
Don't forget that you can also get VOIP services like Skype at zero
cost.
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On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow
noodni...@aol.com wrote:
As far as 911 is concerned, yes you can place 911 calls, but I don't believe
that the 911 folks can trace the call to your specific address. And of
course (1) your computer has to be on at the time, and (2)
First Impressions. After you guys tallked me into it, I just received
the device today. They won't even charge my card for 30 days, assuming
I don't return it first. Following the prompts, I received a working
phone number within a few minutes. Well, by the time I plugged in the
house phone and
Funny, I had the lkongest chat (help) online with them and even printed it
and received as e-mail. I thought it was quite good. There is a HELP
on the top
right.
Marcio
At 02:23 21/1/2009, you wrote:
First Impressions. After you guys tallked me into it, I just received
the device today. They
You go to Menu, then help, the in the botton Life Person... I have
done it. Worked fine.
There are hundreds of FAQs also.
Marcio
At 02:23 21/1/2009, you wrote:
First Impressions. After you guys tallked me into it, I just received
the device today. They won't even charge my card for 30
...the way it's hooked up the provider says it works when computer is off
and does not consume more resources while not in use when computer is on
...of course it does when both are in use ...I try to avoid a big dld while
on the fone as some chop results but not too bad ...I ain't no genius
I'm paying 2 cents/minute for calls to Europe using POTS. Are you lower
than that?
What's your service? Do you use a phone card or dial-around number?
We dial 10-10-something-something-something before we dial the Euro
number. Call quality is normal. The charge comes on our regular phone
1.7c to all my family in Belgium on PhonePower ...they also had a sale in
December for the whole month calls to a coupla dozen countries free ...beat
that! (I didn't know Apple owned POTS)...hehee!
I just checked on the service we use and I see they have jacked up their
rates. It looks like my
I haver a MagicJack and I like it. It rings OK. I
did not know that it opened its window in the screen. Oh, yes, when
you make a call it does too. They have a good
technicaç support and you can talk with them online. They also have a
lot of FAQs..
Marcio
.At 02:52 16/1/2009, you wrote:
I
At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote:
A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which
has a magic jack that connects straight to your router, and a
regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the
telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your
I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run.
Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply
point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic
Jack to do VOIP.
Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all the time just so
their phone
At 10:34 AM 1/16/2009, Tony B wrote:
I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run.
Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply
point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic
Jack to do VOIP.
But you can carry the Majic Jack dongle
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On Behalf Of Kelly J. Morris
Sent: 01/15/2009 11:20 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I bought MagicJack for my son, who is a gamer. It works fine, except
that instead of just ringing when there is an incoming call, it opens a
big new Window
Me too...
Marcio
At 01:14 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote:
At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote:
A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which
has a magic jack that connects straight to your router, and a
regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the
But our cell phones can already make all our calls for free, so why
screw with it? Maybe for people with no cell phones. Or traveling
salesmen (with no cellphones)?
It just makes more sense to me to hook to the net via the router, not
a USB port on one of the client machines. Preferably
[mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com]
On Behalf Of Tony B
Sent: 01/16/2009 10:35 AM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run.
Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply
point out
: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run.
Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply
point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic
Jack to do VOIP.
Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all
I got PhonePower.com (which had a 10% off deal at the time) and $199/year
with 2nd year free (except fed state fees) ...the performance is
unbelievably great ...it also has cloned line which means while you are on
a call another person can pick up another phone and make or receive a call
PhonePower works completely fine with just their modem and the cable modem
with the computer completely shut off. Also, they are going to add a
portability feature. The phone modem you get is about the size of a pack of
cigarettes and you can take it with you when you travel.
-Original
At 01:29 PM 1/16/2009, Tony B wrote:
The dongle to which I referred is *the computer*. A computer is
required to make a phone call. Don't you have a cell phone?
Yeah, but my cell phone doesn't work very well from my desk in the basement
of my house. I also don't like carrying it around. It's
How about international calls? With MagicJack I am in Brasil and I
have an USA number.
I can make calls to the USA (59 dollars for five years). They can
call my US number from
US callers...
Marcio
At 15:41 16/1/2009, you wrote:
But our cell phones can already make all our calls for free, so
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From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com]
On Behalf Of Tony B
Sent: 01/16/2009 10:35 AM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run.
Specifically, it requires *a whole gd
[mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com]
On Behalf Of Tony B
Sent: 01/16/2009 10:35 AM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run.
Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply
point out
For international callers this is indeed a boon. But I think it is
much like Skype.
Stewart
At 02:39 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote:
If I call in my cell phone to the USA... it costs a lot. The same
from there here...
Marcio
Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of
No, they are offering five years for 59.00. I am in Brazil. They gave
me a number that I chose in Los Angeles.
My American friends can call me on that number and I receive the call
here. I can call anyone in the USA. No
other fees. If I call Europe I believe there is a fee. If they call
four
http://www.magicjack.com/faq/
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That is what I mean about international.
You are living in Brazil but can establish a US phone number which
means US calls are low cost to you. If I were to call in Brazil to a
Brazillian # using my standard phone line it would cost me much more.
Stewart
At 04:19 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote:
Cost to call international numbers (we do that) is very low.
I'm paying 2 cents/minute for calls to Europe using POTS. Are you lower
than that?
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Yes, low cost, that is altogether 59 dollars for five years for me to
call anyone in the USA. And to have anyone in the USA ro call my
number in Los Angeles (they may pay long distance if they are not in
Los Angeles, according to their phone plan)...
Marcio
At 20:29 16/1/2009, you wrote:
1.7c to all my family in Belgium on PhonePower ...they also had a sale in
December for the whole month calls to a coupla dozen countries free ...beat
that! (I didn't know Apple owned POTS)...hehee!
-Original Message-
From: Tom Piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com]
Sent: Friday, January 16,
Cost to call international numbers (we do that) is very low.
I'm paying 2 cents/minute for calls to Europe using POTS. Are you lower
than that?
What's your service? Do you use a phone card or dial-around number?
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I bought MagicJack for my son, who is a gamer. It works fine, except
that instead of just ringing when there is an incoming call, it opens a
big new Window onscreen and prevents him from continuing to play until
he closes it.
Has anyone had any experience with MagicJack? Is there a way to disable
I doubt you can disable the notice to any effective degree. Without of
course, disabling the telephone. Simply unplug the MJ.
A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which
has a magic jack that connects straight to your router, and a
regular telephone jack on the other
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