Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Tom, What maintenance routines other than daily, weekly, monthly need to be run? When and how should I run them? I run MacJanitor on 10.4.8. Steve Tom Piwowar wrote: Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and every user of a given machine, or can a single administrator run the routines and have the results be of equal benefit to all users? Depends on which maintenance routines you are talking about. The daily, weekly, monthly scripts all work on files at the system level so it doesn't matter who is logged in when they run. But this is not the case for all maintenance routines. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
How do I get control of the log files. I am running out of space and that is mostly RSS feeds but I am looking for anything else I can clear out while I am it. Log files are automatically rotated and the oldest ones deleted. Check the date on daily.log to confirm when maintenance last ran. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Wow! So you haven't seen any of the modern Macs. If memory serves, that model was early 1990s. Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD Unix now, which has changed it quite a lot. The maintenance is for system files that can get corrupted, typically with file permissions. You owe yourself another look to see what we are talking about! Mark Snyder -Original Message- Just wondering since I haven't had a mac since my 6360...Maintenance for what? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
I leave my Macs on for days or weeks and sleep them most of the time that they are not being used. I just installed Anacron to stay on top of routine maintenance. I think this site has a pretty good discussion of Mac maintenance. http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html Jordan Steve Rigby wrote: Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and every user of a given machine, or can a single administrator run the routines and have the results be of equal benefit to all users? I have spent some time on the 'net trying to resolve this question, and decided to check with the experts here instead. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
I've seen em plenty and used them a little, I just haven't bought one because I can't justify the cost. I also didn't know you had to run nightly 'maintenance' to keep the thing from having corrupted files. BTW, I don't want to start a cost debate...among other things I get at least half my pc parts which I build myself for free and the other half at cost. I spent my extra money on buying a more expensive mp3 player because it had a much nicer interface etc...an ipod. Two of em. Mike On 7/30/07, Snyder, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! So you haven't seen any of the modern Macs. If memory serves, that model was early 1990s. Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD Unix now, which has changed it quite a lot. The maintenance is for system files that can get corrupted, typically with file permissions. You owe yourself another look to see what we are talking about! Mark Snyder -Original Message- Just wondering since I haven't had a mac since my 6360...Maintenance for what? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Steve, To answer your other question, the so called cron jobs (old name) need only be run once for each Mac computer. No need to run them for each user account if that's what you mean. Phil Marchetti On Jul 29, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Steve Rigby wrote: Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and every user of a given machine, or can a single administrator run the routines and have the results be of equal benefit to all users? I have spent some time on the 'net trying to resolve this question, and decided to check with the experts here instead. Steve ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Maintenance of the file system with scheduled utilities is a *nix thing to increase file reliability that goes way back. Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. OS X would make Commander Ductape proud. It logs almost everything you do. Those log files grow very large so the maintenance scripts archive the old and start a new log file. Different log files grow at different rates so that is why you hace daily, weekly, and monthly scripts. At present the log files to not get emailed to Homeland Security. They probably didn't think of doing it yet. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
I said it was a good discussion. I didn't say I did any of them except Anacron, which checks way too often, but should do what I wanted. For the uninitiated it covers a lot of ground in one place, and information is good. But I guess it is written by and for lawyers. Tom Piwowar wrote: I think this site has a pretty good discussion of Mac maintenance. http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html Pretty terrible actually. Looks like it was written by a hypochondriac (or a lawyer?). Few of this listed items can be considered maintenance. These are repair methods that are run for specific reasons. Running them for no reason at all is at best a waste of time. It could actually break something that was not previously broken. IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT! The one useful item is the reference to SMARTReporter, but even SMARTReporter runs way too frequently. It runs every few minutes when once an hour or even once a day would suffice. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
On Jul 30, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. What is the exact meaning of the numerical values that are logged within the MacJanitor window when I run that utility. They appear as something similar to: steverigby 16.02 taffymillar 12.50 The individual users name is followed by a number, as indicated above. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
How do I get control of the log files. I am running out of space and that is mostly RSS feeds but I am looking for anything else I can clear out while I am it. - Original Message From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:10:41 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines Maintenance of the file system with scheduled utilities is a *nix thing to increase file reliability that goes way back. Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. OS X would make Commander Ductape proud. It logs almost everything you do. Those log files grow very large so the maintenance scripts archive the old and start a new log file. Different log files grow at different rates so that is why you hace daily, weekly, and monthly scripts. At present the log files to not get emailed to Homeland Security. They probably didn't think of doing it yet. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and every user of a given machine, or can a single administrator run the routines and have the results be of equal benefit to all users? Depends on which maintenance routines you are talking about. The daily, weekly, monthly scripts all work on files at the system level so it doesn't matter who is logged in when they run. But this is not the case for all maintenance routines. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
On Jul 29, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Don't need MacJanitor any more. The Mac checks at startup to see if the maintenance scripts ran overnight. If not, it runs them right then. I think that is in OS 10.4 and above. I still run 10.3.9. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Which OS ver does that? 4 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Just wondering since I haven't had a mac since my 6360...Maintenance for what? Mike On 7/29/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the daily, weekly or monthly scripts such as run by MacJanitor Don't need MacJanitor any more. The Mac checks at startup to see if the maintenance scripts ran overnight. If not, it runs them right then. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
