I think Tom's point is that you shouldn't buy used software if it requires
some sort of validation step and they don't honor the transaction.
There is an interesting summary of the case law at the Wikipedia under
first sale doctrine.
On 9/17/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this is mostly the way case law has been going. Especially if
you
bought the software on a CD in a store, just like buying a CD of
music. You
have the right to resell the software on CD, because you own the CD.
That is the general
This is typical of those who decry piracy losses. The RIAA counts
supposedly every download as lost revenue, but it's a fact that many who
download music download things they would never buy. I have a friend at
work with a 12 year old little brother who has downloaded photoshop cs to
his
They are both. Adobe has always priced their software in the upper
tier of the price range and cried foul when no one bought it.
JASC came up with a photoshop replacement and priced it at the
$100.00 marker and made a killing. It sold so well that Corel, no
slouch either in the graphics
At 12:40 PM 09/15/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote
Why do you allow auto updates? I have notifications turned on, and
that's all I get (a little shield icon in the tray). I have to download
and install in 2 separate steps. Then they ask if I want to restart (when
necessary). I don't like
Applemobiledevicesercice.exe
Ipodservice.exe
Ituneshelper.exe
Not one of these programs have I authorized nor do I want them
running. However Apple must have earned from MS how to slip programs
into your system so you can go and do what you want without the
customer knowing it. SO MS is not
You can own a bicycle. You can own a refrigerator. You can own a
computer. However you can only license the code that makes the computer
do things for you--you don't own someone else's intellectual property.
The problem isn't ownership, it's the contract--and piracy. Contracts
need to be
At one time Autocad also ran with a dongle and was very expensive
except for student versions.
Stewart
At 12:42 PM 9/15/2007, you wrote:
You can own a bicycle. You can own a refrigerator. You can own a
computer. However you can only license the code that makes the
computer do things for
I may not own their IP, but I _can_ own a *binary copy*.
On 9/15/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can own a bicycle. You can own a refrigerator. You can own a
computer. However you can only license the code that makes the computer
do things for you--you don't own someone else's
This all gets back to these ridiculous licenses we're forced to agree
to when we install software. We buy a car, we own it, to do with as we
please. But we buy software, the publisher retains ownership and can
do with it as _they_ please.
At 12:49 AM 09/14/2007 -0400, b_s-wilk wrote
Sometimes I set updates to download but not install, then run them later.
Maybe the stealth update on your computer is downloaded at one time and
run later automatically. The firewall won't prevent downloading something
when your system is set to
Amen, Tony. Ever since the CS series made its debut,
I've had nothing but trouble remounting photoshop
when, for example, I changed the motherboard on my
powerbook, or when I've added new hardware. CS2
doesn't play nice, disables, and it's back to Adobe to
ask permission. Photoshop7 never was a
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarti
cleId=9036058source=NLT_PMnlid=8
They're claiming MS is putting updates on our computers without our knowledge?
Sue
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They're claiming MS is putting updates on our computers without our
knowledge?
Not surprising. As we have seen again and again this company is devoid of
any sense of ethical behavior. The next step is using their control of
computers to identify and transmit banking info back to headquarters
Those are installed upon installing itunes/ipods. Weird that they are in
your task manager, none are in mine, but running in the background. Many
programs install services to increase functionality/speed. Checking the
task manager for programs running is a lot easier then going to
At 08:47 PM 09/13/2007 -0500, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote
Tom MS is not alone.
I have downloaded both Itunes to handle my podcast collections and
downloads, plus of course Quicktime for programs that need it.
I turn off their little quicktime taskbar program.
However sitting in my Windows
At 11:24 PM 09/13/2007 -0400, Harvey Simon wrote
From my experience using Vista it appears that some of these updates require
a computer restart, which can happen automatically.
I'm using XP--not Vista. That computer is only ever on when I'm using
it. I'm fairly sure it wouldn't boot
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