Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
I used to throw soft-porn photos into preliminary slide presentations to keep the viewers awake. heh heh. It worked. Definitely must be August. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * ==

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-21 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 20, 2007, at 7:49 PM, b_s-wilk wrote I used to throw soft-porn photos into preliminary slide presentations to keep the viewers awake. heh heh. It worked. I like the sound of that! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It might not work in my situation. :-) Stewart At 07:49 PM 8/21/2007, you wrote: On Aug 20, 2007, at 7:49 PM, b_s-wilk wrote I used to throw soft-porn photos into preliminary slide presentations to keep the viewers awake. heh heh. It worked. I like the sound of that! Rev. Stewart A.

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-20 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:03 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: Why not start with using photos of the art as your screensaver. Select a folder of art so that the pictures will fade in and fade to the next photo as people walk by. That could spark some curiosity. Tell them how easy it is to do that, then show

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-20 Thread b_s-wilk
Set a self-running slide show. Include a slide or two with simple how-to info. Put the info slide as every 5th slide or so. Do something to encourage people to touch the Mac. I used to throw soft-porn photos into preliminary slide presentations to keep the viewers awake. heh heh. It worked.

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-19 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 16, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: You have to make it usefully important. I would make art-related content very accessible. This may not happen until you do get it displaying your art inventory. I see that your message that was sent on August 16 finally hit my inbox today,

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-19 Thread b_s-wilk
Why not start with using photos of the art as your screensaver. Select a folder of art so that the pictures will fade in and fade to the next photo as people walk by. That could spark some curiosity. Tell them how easy it is to do that, then show them how. Then clear off the desktop and leave a

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 15, 2007, at 6:10 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: It's getting hard to find reasons to buy a Windows PC, aside from sheer inertia. Windows PCs used to be far more cost-effective than Macs, but no longer. Macs can now compete hard with PCs on cost, for all but the very cheapest, sub-$600

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread Snyder, Mark
Steve, I would start by creating user accounts for them, or at least for some logical sub-group. I would also invite them to a demonstration where you help someone set up their desktop preferences and show them how to do some basic real-world tasks. Then invite them to use their personal

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread mike
People are normally afraid of unknown items, give em time, sit them down and show them how to use it, the mac isn't going to show them how to use itself. The faxing seems to be a perfect example, explain you want the wasting of paper to stop and use that to get them on the computer. Don't give

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread mike
Uh oh...undesirables...next we'll hear we have to cull all pc users from the population. It's too bad those pesky pixar people are undesirableusing non macs to make cars... Mike On 8/16/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might also want to point out that creative people

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread Chris Dunford
Uh oh...undesirables...next we'll hear we have to cull all pc users from the population. First they came for Windows fanboys, and I said nothing because I was not a Windows fanboy... * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE -

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 16, 2007, at 9:18 AM, mike wrote: People are normally afraid of unknown items, give em time, sit them down and show them how to use it, the mac isn't going to show them how to use itself. The faxing seems to be a perfect example, explain you want the wasting of paper to stop and use

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread mike
What do they say they are afraid of? If they have trouble with camera cards on any system, it sounds as if they aren't the brightest bulbs anyway. Is this your shop or is it owned by another? Mike On 8/16/07, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 16, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Snyder, Mark

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread Constance Warner
Also the idea they have been trained to be afraid because they don't use a mac is beyond ridiculous, they might be bristling at this notion. I don't know--people can have very odd phobias sometimes. I remember working as a temp at the Brookings Institution (the natives call it The Brookings,

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread Admiral Harris
the same result. Folks don't like change. I found Leading Change by John Kotter to be helpful. - Original Message - From: Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 16, 2007, at 3:32 PM, mike wrote: What do they say they are afraid of? If they have trouble with camera cards on any system, it sounds as if they aren't the brightest bulbs anyway. Is this your shop or is it owned by another? The shop is not mine. I just work there. The other

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-16 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 16, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Admiral Harris wrote: Steve, I'm assuming from everything you've written that you don't have a lot of experience in change management. As much as you'd like to believe that its an evil M$ cult going on in your shop, the truth is, if you required them to have

[CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)

2007-08-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
Some of you should immediately stop reading and hit the delete key. You know who you are. From Information Week... It's getting hard to find reasons to buy a Windows PC, aside from sheer inertia. Windows PCs used to be far more cost-effective than Macs, but no longer. Macs can now compete