Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-29 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its
not unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of
any other email way to get a hold of the government.  You
can put a CAPATCHA or other bot-obstacles in front of the form.

 Spammers attack web forms too. They have bots that fill in
 forms with their messages and submit the forms.

 You may not need something a complicated/annoying as a
 CAPATCHA. Just have one form field that asks something
 that a spammer would not know.

As in performing some elementary math what is 3*5, what is
the capital of MD (if there is a form, capital of the state
where the addressee said they were from on their address)?
What other types of questions?

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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
What other types of questions?

Just check street name against the list of streets in the community.


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[CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting email spam?

2009-04-28 Thread Business Her Way
I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a  
favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden  
gems that might not readily show up in a search.

Thanks.
/gayley
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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a  
favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden  
gems that might not readily show up in a search.

#1 Don't put the question in the subject line because many email clients 
will truncate it.


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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting...

2009-04-28 Thread Business Her Way

Haha. Loved the Madoff computer also.
/gayley




On Apr 28, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:


I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a
favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some  
hidden

gems that might not readily show up in a search.


#1 Don't put the question in the subject line because many email  
clients

will truncate it.




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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a
 favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden
 gems that might not readily show up in a search.

 #1 Don't put the question in the subject line because many email clients
 will truncate it.


Or atleast repeat the question in the email.  This does give you the
opportunity to ask the question in two ways one short for the subject and
one long for the body.

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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting email spam?

2009-04-28 Thread Allen Firstenberg
Several thoughts come to mind:
- Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not
unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other email way
to get a hold of the government.  You can put a CAPATCHA or other
bot-obstacles in front of the form.

- Route email through something like gmail, which keep up-to-date on the
current spam methods and do a pretty good job at making sure that they
filter out the junk.

- Figure out why they really want or need email.  There may be other methods
that are more suitable.  Is the email so they can communicate with each
other, or with constituents?  How about a forum (possibly that allows
anonymous posting, if thats appropriate) with a CAPATCHA?You might not
even need the CAPATCHA if its just for internal discussions.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Business Her Way g...@mothergeek.com wrote:

 I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a
 favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden gems
 that might not readily show up in a search.
 Thanks.
 /gayley
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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
- Route email through something like gmail, which keep up-to-date on the
current spam methods and do a pretty good job at making sure that they
filter out the junk.

I do this. Works great.

Note that Google bought Postini so you could purchase their filtering 
services that way too.


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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not
unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other email way
to get a hold of the government.  You can put a CAPATCHA or other
bot-obstacles in front of the form.

Spammers attack web forms too. They have bots that fill in forms with 
their messages and submit the forms.

You may not need something a complicated/annoying as a CAPATCHA. Just 
have one form field that asks something that a spammer would not know.


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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-28 Thread Allen Firstenberg
Right.  My point wasn't put a web form there, and you're fine.  It was
put a web form there, but you still need to put in some anti-bot
technology.  Your suggestion of a form field may be easily effective as
well, although I've seen some spammers get around simple ones of these as
well.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not
 unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other email way
 to get a hold of the government.  You can put a CAPATCHA or other
 bot-obstacles in front of the form.

 Spammers attack web forms too. They have bots that fill in forms with
 their messages and submit the forms.

 You may not need something a complicated/annoying as a CAPATCHA. Just
 have one form field that asks something that a spammer would not know.


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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting email spam?

2009-04-28 Thread Business Her Way

Thanks, all, great thoughts and I will pass them on.
/gayley


On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Allen Firstenberg wrote:


Several thoughts come to mind:
- Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not
unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other  
email way

to get a hold of the government.  You can put a CAPATCHA or other
bot-obstacles in front of the form.

- Route email through something like gmail, which keep up-to-date on  
the

current spam methods and do a pretty good job at making sure that they
filter out the junk.

- Figure out why they really want or need email.  There may be other  
methods
that are more suitable.  Is the email so they can communicate with  
each

other, or with constituents?  How about a forum (possibly that allows
anonymous posting, if thats appropriate) with a CAPATCHA?You  
might not

even need the CAPATCHA if its just for internal discussions.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Business Her Way  
g...@mothergeek.com wrote:



I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a
favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some  
hidden gems

that might not readily show up in a search.
Thanks.
/gayley
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