Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread Roger D. Parish
To what restrictions do you refer? Which network is preventing you from reaching which service? If you are referring to reaching an SMTP server on the well-known port 25, most providers are restricting access to only those IPs on their own network, in an attempt to limit/reduce spam. Most are

Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread Tony B
You're right. It's whining. How would it even be possible to own a network connection? And if your primary ISP is so bad that you had to keep your old dialup and ever need to use it, then you need a new primary ISP. I mean, I can count on both hands the hours that broadband goes down here in a

Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread tjpa
On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Roger D. Parish wrote: If you are referring to reaching an SMTP server on the well-known port 25, most providers are restricting access to only those IPs on their own network, in an attempt to limit/reduce spam. Most are also permitting cross-network access to

Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread b_s-wilk
Formerly I was happy to have access over a different network that didn't relate to my primary ISP. This would be in keeping with my belt and suspenders approach to most technology. I reasoned that a backup strategy would be preferred in the event, etc. I absolutely understand network

Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread Eric S. Sande
Maybe not own it in the sense that you seem to have taken my statement. There's nothing wrong with the primary ISP. I just want the flexibility to adjust servers as appropriate. The dialup is valuable because it's portable, almost infinitely if that's not a contradiction in terms. Anywhere

Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread Eric S. Sande
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Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread b_s-wilk
Mail servers. Within the past year, most of my email accounts have changed ports for both incoming and outgoing servers. Verizon changed for some, but not all of our email accounts: incoming.verizon.net - port 110 outgoing.verizon.net - port 587 SSL My Yahoo email through the yahoo.es,

Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread tjpa
On Dec 6, 2009, at 4:05 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I also had to verify all the email addresses that would be using foreign servers before they would accept my email. It's fun when the 'foreign server' is also in a foreign language. Glad I didn't get the Greek or HK account. Google's translation

Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread Eric S. Sande
Having two made it easier for me to figure out that it was VZ messing with my email. That would be the common factor, yes. I all ready know that they have certain policy elements that would tend to suggest that off network operation is not encouraged.

Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-06 Thread chad evans wyatt
I would aver that Google Translate is getting better.  Not yet quite good in Slavic languages and Hungarian.  But a great help. --- On Sun, 12/6/09, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Sunday

[CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-05 Thread Eric S. Sande
Formerly I was happy to have access over a different network that didn't relate to my primary ISP. This would be in keeping with my belt and suspenders approach to most technology. I reasoned that a backup strategy would be preferred in the event, etc. So I have a dialup account which I have