On Aug 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, mike wrote:
Everything is the fault of those damn neomircrosofticons eh? How
you manage
to bring your made up boogey men into everything is amazing.
On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
You first feign outrage over Google Voice and then almost
Fortunately there were many other posts that were
thoughtful about this very interesting situation.
TomLogik(t)
Not thoughtful = Objective reality.
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I wish you would.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:10 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Arguing with you guys is like trying to have a conversation with a coffee
table. Fortunately there were many other posts that were thoughtful about
this very interesting situation. Hang it up.
So if you are using Google voice across the data plan as you describe does that
essentially free you from the expensive daytime minutes restriction?
Can you get a cell phone with a data plan AND WITHOUT a talk plan?
Dan
Yes, it's called T-Mobile's SideKick--also Blackberry, other PDAs,
Time for a REAL reality check. Apple has rejected many apps that it
later accepted. They're not lying. They're being cautious. Apple
developers prefer to delay a questionable app until it will work nicely
with other apps and the OS. Google Voice does neither. They'll work it
out like they've
So you know google is lying...how do you know that?
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On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:06 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
Time for a REAL reality check. Apple has rejected many apps that it
later accepted. They're not lying. They're being cautious. Apple
developers prefer to
On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Mike wrote:
So you know google is lying...how do you know that?
The issue is not Google or Apple lying. It is you trying to insert
misinformation into the account of what transpired.
GV was not rejected by Apple. It was not approved. The two are not
the same.
So again, you are saying the FCC is involved for zero reason?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:14 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Mike wrote:
So you know google is lying...how do you know that?
The issue is not Google or Apple lying. It is you trying to insert
Time for a REAL reality check. Apple has rejected many apps that it
later accepted. They're not lying. They're being cautious. Apple
developers prefer to delay a questionable app until it will work nicely
with other apps and the OS. Google Voice does neither. They'll work it
out like they've
And yet still things leak.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:18 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
I still have a cousin who works for Apple as an engineer. They're as
secretive about their projects as the NSA.
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They're as secretive about their projects as the NSA.
How do you know?
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TPiwowar
On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Mike wrote:
So you know google is lying...how do you know that?
The issue is not Google or Apple lying. It is you trying
to insert misinformation into the account of what transpired.
GV was not rejected by Apple. It was not approved. The
two are not
I have at least as much experience with Apple products as your so-called
tech site. There are NO real inside connections with Apple, except where
Apple allows. As soon as there are leaks, the leaker[s] is/are fired.
Industrial espionage is serious business. I still have a cousin who
works for
The MFB set seems to completely ignore this would have never made any news
or into the FCC's radar pattern if Apple had actually not rejected the app.
There is no story, no reason to inquire.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote:
I have at least as much
And yet still things leak.
The leakers have been fired. One of the things that Apple does is to
spread a lot of false rumors. When one of those rumors gets out, they
know exactly who is responsible and fire them. There's a huge difference
between leaks and rumors. The leak about the large
One of the things that Apple does is to spread a lot of false rumors.
Deliberately? I'd question the ethics of a company that did this.
I will say rhat any company can have proprietary information.
But that isn't the issue. I'll TELL you what I'm doing and planning,
I have to. Any
Eric S. Sande escribió:
They're as secretive about their projects as the NSA.
How do you know?
Friends at both NSA and Apple.
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One of the things that Apple does is to spread a lot of false rumors.
Deliberately? I'd question the ethics of a company that did this.
Internally only. Plenty of other companies do the same including ones
where I've worked. When a company has a unique product or a special
formula,
OPINION
AUGUST 19, 2009
Why ATT Killed Google Voice
By ANDY KESSLER
Earlier this month, Apple rejected an application for the iPhone called Google Voice. The uproar
set off a chain of events—Google's CEO Eric Schmidt resigning from Apple's board, and the
Federal Communications Commission
I usually avoid these endless pissing contests that seem to occupy so
much Computer Guys bandwidth. But I have two comments to Mr. Kessler's
piece: 1. I don't trust anyone who used to be a hedge fund manager to
give an honest opinion of anything and 2. while I am against huge
profits from
It is truly strange to see the WSJ arguing the benefits of a free
market.
This is, of course, another manifestation of the network neutrality
debate. It is bad for society to allow the carriers to impose bizarre
restrictions on what devices can generate data packets on their
networks and
And also bad to charge different prices depending on what that byte
carries. It is ridiculous that texting costs so much even when you
have the unlimited data plan.
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On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:02 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
It is truly strange to see the WSJ arguing the
Most people would probably just say Who cares? Only elitist bastards would
pay over $100/mo for a telephone anyway.. I'm not sure I agree with them,
as there may actually be some people that make over $3.33 worth of telephone
calls a day. What about brain surgeons? Just because they functioned
I have several friends who subscribe to the sprint 99 all in one plan. They
do this because they keep no land line and no other connection to the
internet. So figure in what you spend for land lines and your DSL/cable
internet and you might just be above 100 bux.
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:21
OPINION
AUGUST 19, 2009
Why ATT Killed Google Voice
By ANDY KESSLER
Earlier this month, Apple rejected an application for the iPhone called Google
Voice. The uproar
set off a chain of events—Google's CEO Eric Schmidt resigning from Apple's
board, and the
Federal Communications Commission
Apple's response to the DOJ inquiry looks a lot more plausible than
the explanations proffered by the conspiracy theorists. In a
nutshell, adding Google Voice to an iPhone significantly changes the
operation of the iPhone. It replaces so many of the iPhone's
functions that it left Apple
Everything is the fault of those damn neomircrosofticons eh? How you manage
to bring your made up boogey men into everything is amazing. That said the
fact you back Apple is shocking...shocking! Changes the iphone so it's not
an iphone...uh...yeaaah. So the FCC is investigating Apple *not*
Apple's response to the DOJ inquiry looks a lot more plausible than
the explanations proffered by the conspiracy theorists. In a
nutshell, adding Google Voice to an iPhone significantly changes the
operation of the iPhone. It replaces so many of the iPhone's
functions that it left Apple
Apple's response to the DOJ inquiry looks a lot more plausible than
the explanations proffered by the conspiracy theorists. In a
nutshell, adding Google Voice to an iPhone significantly changes the
operation of the iPhone. It replaces so many of the iPhone's
functions that it left Apple wondering
I posted two different articles about the same issue. I give very little
credence to anything on the editorial page of the WSJ, but it's
certainly provocative--and narrow-minded. Consider the header, using
Kill instead of a more accurate description. ATT isn't dying, it's
SBC, an incestuous
Apple's response to the DOJ inquiry looks a lot more plausible than
the explanations proffered by the conspiracy theorists. In a
nutshell, adding Google Voice to an iPhone significantly changes the
operation of the iPhone. It replaces so many of the iPhone's
functions that it left Apple
So if you are using Google voice across the data plan as you describe
does that essentially free you from the expensive daytime minutes
restriction?
Can you get a cell phone with a data plan AND WITHOUT a talk plan?
db
Jeff Wright wrote:
I posted two different articles about the same
So if you are using Google voice across the data plan as you describe
does that essentially free you from the expensive daytime minutes
restriction?
I don't know the specific details. You'd have to contact TM.
Can you get a cell phone with a data plan AND WITHOUT a talk plan?
Soon, you
It is about profits. Trust me, the only thing that matters is rhe
money.
Oh, no question. I wasn't suggesting otherwise.
If a product is good it will stand on its own.
Agreed.
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Verizon has also gone this route and therefore I am on my last smartphone.
Stewart
At 12:20 AM 8/23/2009, you wrote:
So if you are using Google voice across the data plan as you describe
does that essentially free you from the expensive daytime minutes
restriction?
I don't know the
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