I think part of the reason the Mac gets taken first in PWN to OWN is that it
is the only one worth the effort.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Right...that's why OS X gets taken out every time first time at the pwn to
own. I know actual results and facts and
Mac exploits are also not worth much on the open market.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:17 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote:
I think part of the reason the Mac gets taken first in PWN to OWN is that
it
is the only one worth the effort.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM, mike
sales to profits, from tax to investments- we
are YOUR adjuvancy
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I don't care what Gartner says if APPLE posts differently to the Feds
(SEC)
and signs on that it is accurate. I doubt Apple execs want to go to jail.
Gartner will not go to jail if it provides wrong information.
Yeah, but Gartner will kick sand in their face and hide their sunscreen if
they
On Aug 2, 2009, at 5:34 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote:
I don't care what Gartner says if APPLE posts differently to the
Feds (SEC)
and signs on that it is accurate. I doubt Apple execs want to go
to jail.
Gartner will not go to jail if it provides wrong information.
Eschew
On Aug 2, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Jeff Wright wrote:
And we know that Apple *never* lies to the gummint about its finances.
Correct. I guess you are not always wrong. Keep up the good work.
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Correct. I guess you are not always wrong. Keep up the good work.
*pt* Apple. Options. Restatement.
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On Aug 2, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote:
Absolutely NOT, Tom. There just is no point in debating facts with
one who
only wants to employ facts that either are invented (Gartner clearly
contravenes Apple- and the penalties for lying- in spite of your coy,
smart-aleck
It was never exploited out in the wild. The patch was out weeks after Apple
knew about it, not the next day. The patch was out the day after the
exploit was shown at the blackhat conference, Apple realized they couldn't
put it off anymore.
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On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:37 PM, mike wrote:
It was never exploited out in the wild. The patch was out weeks
after Apple
knew about it, not the next day. The patch was out the day after the
exploit was shown at the blackhat conference, Apple realized they
couldn't
put it off anymore.
It is
That's true, I cling. I note you can't dispute the facts however.
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:49 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:37 PM, mike wrote:
It was never exploited out in the wild. The patch was out weeks after
Apple
knew about it, not the next day. The patch
to profits, from tax to investments- we
are YOUR adjuvancy
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On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote:
That's EXACTLY what I mean, Tom. FACTS!
I am not going to waste any more time on you Birthers. You just
ignore the facts and this goes around and around. Auditioning for Fox
News I guess.
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On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:59
On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:41 PM, mike wrote:
Too true. Marketshare in itself does not imply security or lack
of. But
logic does seem to dictate that those who go after the insecure
OS's go
after the one with larger marketshare since they don't seem to go
after the
one with smaller marketshare
Right...that's why OS X gets taken out every time first time at the pwn to
own. I know actual results and facts and stuff confudle you, but keep
trying.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:00 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:41 PM, mike wrote:
Too true. Marketshare in itself
On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:10 AM, mike wrote:
Right...that's why OS X gets taken out every time first time at the
pwn to
own. I know actual results and facts and stuff confudle you, but keep
trying.
PSYCH 101: The most wretched and oppressed are often the ones who
cling tightest to the belief
I think yer in the wrong class...phych 101 is down the hall.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:37 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:10 AM, mike wrote:
Right...that's why OS X gets taken out every time first time at the pwn to
own. I know actual results and facts and stuff
And, let us not be so smug- the reports over the past two days of
significant security failures in Macs, iPhones, and iPods means that as
Apple market share augments, its desirability as a target and its inherent
flaws will force the (heretofore smug) users of these devices to update and
add
On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote:
And, let us not be so smug- the reports over the past two days of
significant security failures in Macs, iPhones, and iPods means
that as
Apple market share augments, its desirability as a target and its
inherent
flaws will
Don't know why you listen to him we don't.
Stewart
At 02:51 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote:
On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote:
And, let us not be so smug- the reports over the past two days of
significant security failures in Macs, iPhones, and iPods means
that as
Too true. Marketshare in itself does not imply security or lack of. But
logic does seem to dictate that those who go after the insecure OS's go
after the one with larger marketshare since they don't seem to go after the
one with smaller marketshare which has been proven to be no more secure. As
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