Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-19 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 18, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: A failure that hasn't been released yet? Interesting point of view. Perhaps we should wait just a bit. You have to be smart enough to come in out of the rain to understand the concept. Standing there until you are soaked and sneezing is not

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-19 Thread mike
Yeah, come in from the rain and start making stuff up where it's warm and dry. Truth holds no value just blast those neomicrosofticons. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 18, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: A failure that hasn't been released yet?

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-18 Thread mike
Well mr moneybags, 2500 dollars to listen to a ten dollar cd is cost prohibitive to a lot of people. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote: A lot people of any generation, the cost is prohibitive. Beg to differ. One of the fastest growing and most innovative

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-18 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Eric S. Sandeesa...@erols.com wrote: A lot people of any generation, the cost is prohibitive. Beg to differ.  One of the fastest growing and most innovative areas of hi-fi is in headphone systems.  The youngsters all ready use Ipods and Zunes, they all ready

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-18 Thread mike
I have a computer hooked up to a pioneer receiver with svideo and digital audio, I've put all my cds and some dvds on the computer and can play anything with my ipod touch working as the remote. Since it's controlled via wifi, I don't even have t be in the same room. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:48

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Well mr moneybags, 2500 dollars to listen to a ten dollar cd is cost prohibitive to a lot of people. OK, I'll accept that. But consider it from a different perspective. If you bought one $10 CD a week for 30 years, you'd have 1500 CDs, which is a respectable but not even close to impressive

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-18 Thread TPiwowar
Another perspective on why Zune HD is a failure... Bad Idea #5. Go one better. As the rise and fall of Friendfeed indicates, copying the basic functionality of a successful application (Twitter, in this case) and adding a few new features -- doing the same thing slightly better from some

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Dunford
Another perspective on why Zune HD is a failure... A failure that hasn't been released yet? Interesting point of view. Perhaps we should wait just a bit. Reminds me of Dave Barry, who starts referring to new administrations as failed on about January 21.

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Actually I think the biggest purveyors of HD radio are Public Radio Stations. I agree. Most commercial stations have no desire to offer a variety of programs. They are typically rigidly locked into a single

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Jeff Wrightjswri...@gmail.com wrote: The HD in HD Radio stands for hybrid digital, not high definition. While I agreed with your description of what HD is an abbreviation for, the use of the term HD can be determined by any entity that employs that term. In

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread TPiwowar
TWO OUT OF TWO TOMS AGREE... The comment is derived from a general consensus by analysts that Microsoft's portable media player missed its mark, and doesn't look to gain any ground in its battle against Apple's iPhone and iPod Touch anytime soon. The market reception for Zune is so

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread TPiwowar
OKAY WFBs, EDUCATE ME. CAN THE ZUNE HD DO THIS TOO? With TomTom for iPhone, millions of iPhone users can now benefit from the same easy-to-use and intuitive interface, turn-by-turn spoken navigation and unique routing technology that our 30 million portable navigation device users rely on

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread David K Watson
From the ars technica article that your battery numbers come from: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/08/zune-hd-specs-reveal-battery-life-estimates-format-support.ars Battery life is cited as up to 24 hours (wireless off) for music and up to four hours for video, but this seemed a

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
Now tell me, doesn't this business sound the least bit suspicious to you? I believe I already stated that both mfrs make exaggerated claims on battery life, at least that's what I've seen from reports of field testing the battery life on the Touch.

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
OKAY WFBs, EDUCATE ME. CAN THE ZUNE HD DO THIS TOO? With TomTom for iPhone, millions of iPhone users can now benefit from the same easy-to-use and intuitive interface, turn-by-turn spoken navigation and unique routing technology that our 30 million portable navigation device users rely on

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 17, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: I believe I already stated that both mfrs make exaggerated claims on battery life, at least that's what I've seen from reports of field testing the battery life on the Touch. The old argument Everybody's doing it so why can't I? In truth,

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
TWO OUT OF TWO TOMS AGREE... The comment is derived from a general consensus by analysts that Microsoft's portable media player missed its mark, and doesn't look to gain any ground in its battle against Apple's iPhone and iPod Touch anytime soon. We all know that market analysts are *never*

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
The old argument Everybody's doing it so why can't I? You saw an argument in there? You saw a defense of making exaggerated claims? Not to worry, I'm sure chronic paranoia will be covered under O-Care. In truth, reviewers report Apple's estimates to be quite conservative. I've seen the

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 17, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Seriously? You're comparing a product with an established ecosystem (thanks largely to the iPhone, not the Touch) to one that isn't even for sale yet? You completely ignore the question I asked and substitute a straw-man in its stead. Quite

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Wright
You completely ignore the question I asked and substitute a straw-man in its stead. Quite intellectually dishonest. I didn't ignore your idiotic and pointless jingoism. You should be flattered. Of course you don't want to discuss if such applications will run in the Zune HD. Go nuts. Tell

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-17 Thread Eric S. Sande
A lot people of any generation, the cost is prohibitive. Beg to differ. One of the fastest growing and most innovative areas of hi-fi is in headphone systems. The youngsters all ready use Ipods and Zunes, they all ready have computers. They may not have the scratch for a full blown rig, but

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 15, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: As you know, he has been asked repeatedly for this information. I asked him at least three times in the last Zune thread to provide reasons why Zune is vastly inferior and got no response beyond the usual. This is a question that won't be

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Eric S. Sande
I think Sarah Palin joined the List under an assumed name. Well, I have to agree that Sarah Palin lost my vote for the Republican ticket, the official one. It would be good to see what you object to specifically with Zune, not that I generally care about mass market crap, anyway. ?

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Wow. http://rantsandstuff.com/2009/06/01/nitpicking-the-zune-hd/ It’s the little things like this that make me wonder what else did they not pay that much attention to? They

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread mike
Well we know from sales figures the Zune isn't mass market so you must be referring to Tom. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote: I think Sarah Palin joined the List under an assumed name. Well, I have to agree that Sarah Palin lost my vote for the

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Jeff Wright
I think Sarah Palin joined the List under an assumed name. The Zune Panel has noted your opinion. Thank you for participating in this public forum. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Chris Dunford
As you know, he has been asked repeatedly for this information. I asked him at least three times in the last Zune thread to provide reasons why Zune is vastly inferior and got no response beyond the usual. This is a question that won't be answered with any logic. I think Sarah Palin

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread David K Watson
Screen size: Remember size is roughly the square of the diagonal. Taking second digit rounding into account that could be as much as 18% difference. That is a worst case number, but it agrees pretty closely with the computation in pixels: 480x320 vs. 480x272 (17.6% more for the Touch). Yes, I

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 16, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: It would be good to see what you object to specifically with Zune, not that I generally care about mass market crap, anyway. Someone else said it, but I will repeat it once again because it is so brilliantly succinct... M$ is skating to

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread mike
This has got to be an act, Tom can't be this obtuse and still feed himself. All the world's a stage and all the men and women are merely players. Play on Tom. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 16, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: It would be good

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Eric S. Sande
Why are you wasting your time defending such mediocrity? I don't waste time defending mediocrity. You all ready know my views on what is trash and what is not. These devices are seriously compromised in delivering high quality audio. And I include the Ipod. We might as well be talking about

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread mike
Are there any portable players with sound you do like? I'm not trying to be a smartass, just trying to educate myself. I know you follow this particular area a lot more then I do. I've never been much of a audiophile, I've listened to a LOT of music at work over the last few decades, always on

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Eric S. Sande
AH OK so you are a snob audiophile that would rather listen to a high end Macinstosh than a high end Apple. No. Not exactly. If it sounds good it is good. I don't have McIntosh gear, that isn't in my price range. But I'm pretty experienced and I can tell if what I'm hearing is a pony versus

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
AH OK so you are a snob audiophile that would rather listen to a high end Macinstosh than a high end Apple. I like. Stewart At 02:22 PM 8/16/2009, you wrote: Why are you wasting your time defending such mediocrity? I don't waste time defending mediocrity. You all ready know my views on

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Jeff Wright
Battery life: I said *advertised* battery life and I'm sticking with that. The HD numbers you quote comes from something MS reportedly sent to engadget. However, MS's own store as of a few minutes ago says 24 hours audio, 4 hours video:

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 16, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: But I'm pretty experienced and I can tell if what I'm hearing is a pony versus a pile of pony crap. Are you denigrating MP3 or iPods? Have you listened to an Apple lossless file on an iPod? Apple's lossless compression makes iTunes an

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Eric S. Sande
Are there any portable players with sound you do like? Sure, it's possible. Actually the Ipod isn't bad but it doesn't have a digital output that will feed a portable DAC and amp. Very good systems can be built around an Ipod but the Ipod's onboard DAC and amp are shite. As long as you see

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Eric S. Sandeesa...@erols.com wrote: They are what they are.  No one with any serious interest in music takes them as anything more than that. Precisely. As an avid listener of good music, and and all genres are welcomed if the offerings are of high caliber,

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Eric S. Sande
Are you denigrating MP3 or iPods? Have you listened to an Apple lossless file on an iPod? See my subsequent post. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote: Any portables out there you do like?  Any suggestions for someone wanting to see if they can hear the difference? No portables, even those played via a docking system with some attached speakers, will sound anything like real

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread mike
A lot people of any generation, the cost is prohibitive. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:38 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote: Anecdotally, a lot of youngsters these days have never seriously listened to music on a REAL

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM, TPiwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 16, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: But I'm pretty experienced and I can tell if what I'm hearing is a pony versus a pile of pony crap. Are you denigrating MP3 or iPods? Have you listened to an Apple lossless file

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread mike
I don't think it's quality that is so much the point with HD radio as much as more content. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Eric S. Sandeesa...@erols.com wrote: As to HD radio over earbuds, you would never hear

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 4:43 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it's quality that is so much the point with HD radio as much as more content. Perhaps so, but radio stations most certainly use the quality thing to convince listeners that they should invest in HD radio receivers.

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Jeff Wright
Perhaps so, but radio stations most certainly use the quality thing to convince listeners that they should invest in HD radio receivers. Whadda ya think HD is an abbreviation for? Certainly nothing to do with content. The HD in HD Radio stands for hybrid digital, not high definition.

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Eric S. Sande
Well, okay, but compared to what? I guess that wasn't a good answer because it comes down to expectation. If all someone has ever heard is recorded music, it is logical to conclude that that is their standard. I am not willing to open the worm can here. But I will say that for those who have

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Again HUH? HD stands for Hybrid Digital in radio language it has all to do with programming. Offering different audio streams of different content on a hybrid digital channel. The HD they are talking about for the Ipod/Zune has to do with Video output which has a totally different

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
HUH? A decent lower level receiver with a decent set of speakers (I am not talking audio[phile quality) will not set you back much more than what you are spending on your ipods/accessories. Secondly they last a lot longer. Current amp/receiver set up I am using is at least 10 years old.

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Jeff Wrightjswri...@gmail.com wrote: The HD in HD Radio stands for hybrid digital, not high definition. True. Still, stations tout the audio quality when talking up HD radio even though an awful lot of their HD programming is talk stuff where great sound is

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Actually I think the biggest purveyors of HD radio are Public Radio Stations. Stewart At 08:49 PM 8/16/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Jeff Wrightjswri...@gmail.com wrote: The HD in HD Radio stands for hybrid digital, not high definition. True. Still, stations tout the

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-16 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Actually I think the biggest purveyors of HD radio are Public Radio Stations. The two major markets I know the best seem to list most of the stations as having an HD Radio transmitter according to

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Wow. Hooks up to the TV, just like my wife's 3-year old iPod. Wow indeed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Pretty friggin awesome. Very zippy. Very smooth. A thought. They hope to win market share by undercutting Apple's current price, but are introducing a model that is technically several years behind Apple's current models. Taking that into

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
And your wife's has that much cleaner interface? Does 720p out? Does HD radio? On a related note, is Apple *any* closer to offering 1080p content? I figured since the format wars are over, we'd finally see apple release some HD hardware. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, TPiwowar

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
Where is the zune HD behind on the touch? On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:30 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Pretty friggin awesome. Very zippy. Very smooth. A thought. They hope to win market share by undercutting Apple's current price, but

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Wow. http://rantsandstuff.com/2009/06/01/nitpicking-the-zune-hd/ It’s the little things like this that make me wonder what else did they not pay that much attention to? They couldn’t have dropped the menu font just a tad to make it fit on

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 15, 2009, at 1:40 PM, mike wrote: Where is the zune HD behind on the touch? One of the commentators hit the nail squarely on the head... M$ is skating to where the puck was, not where it will be. Bravo! * **

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Wow. The Zune HD prices look good compared to today's iPod Touches, but not so much compared to the new camera-equipped ones Apple is set to announce next month (16/32/64 GB for $199/299/399). Same price, double the size, and photos. Not

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
So first you want to compare it to the first gen ipod touch that are refurb...now you want to compare them to unreleased ipod touches... On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Wow. The Zune HD prices look good

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
I'll take that as you haven't looked at an specs or reviews of the product. Shocking. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:09 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 15, 2009, at 1:40 PM, mike wrote: Where is the zune HD behind on the touch? One of the commentators hit the nail squarely on the

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
A thought. They hope to win market share by undercutting Apple's current price, but are introducing a model that is technically several years behind Apple's current models. [citation needed] Notice how my post said nothing at all about iPod's, it simply extolled how nice the Zune HD was, yet

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
So first you want to compare it to the first gen ipod touch that are refurb...now you want to compare them to unreleased ipod touches... Those goal posts aren't going to move themselves, you know! * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote: On a related note, is Apple *any* closer to offering 1080p content?  I figured since the format wars are over, we'd finally see apple release some HD hardware. What is the value in having a 1080p image on a screen of such a tiny

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
I know I'm nitpicking... That's all that really needed to be said. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
The zune offers 720 out...meaning you can hook it to a 65 widescreen and get 720p out. Appletv is only 720p right now, they offer no 1080p support on anything apple. Kinda strange for a platform that is targeted for media. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote: The zune offers 720 out...meaning you can hook it to a 65 widescreen and get 720p out. I understand. I was thinking of watching video at such a resolution on a tiny screen. Thanks. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
-Original Message- From: TPiwowar I'll stick with my own bigotry, ignorance and confirmation bias. FTFY Mac zealots. The best free advertising Microsoft can have. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread David K Watson
From:mike xha...@gmail.com Where is the zune HD behind on the touch? Well, there's: Screen size advertised battery life bluetooth apps (by about 64,000 or so) and of course, availability Because of that last one, the jury is still out on things like actual usability issues, reliability,

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
Where is the zune HD behind on the touch? Well, there's: Screen size (Zune HD) vs. (iPod Touch) 3.3 vs. 3.5 Will you really notice? advertised battery life Music: 33 hours vs. 36 hours Video: 8.5 hours vs. 6 hours The OLED tech comes through here. Bluetooth No word either way on

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 15, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: -Original Message- From: TPiwowar I'll stick with my own bigotry, ignorance and confirmation bias. Note that our WFBs are now manufacturing false posts to further their evil disinformation campaign. Can't prevail on the facts. Can't

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
Too bad the MFB couldn't list any facts. You were asked...several times. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 15, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: -Original Message- From: TPiwowar I'll stick with my own bigotry, ignorance and confirmation

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Chris Dunford
Too bad the MFB couldn't list any facts. You were asked...several times. As you know, he has been asked repeatedly for this information. I asked him at least three times in the last Zune thread to provide reasons why Zune is vastly inferior and got no response beyond the usual. This is a

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
Note that our WFBs are now manufacturing false posts to further their evil disinformation campaign. BWAHAHAHAHA! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

[CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-14 Thread Jeff Wright
Pretty friggin awesome. Very zippy. Very smooth. http://gizmodo.com/5337532/zune-hd-tv-interface-makes-it-a-media-center-for- your-pocket * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Dunford
Pretty friggin awesome. Very zippy. Very smooth. http://gizmodo.com/5337532/zune-hd-tv-interface-makes-it-a-media-center-for-your-pocket Wow. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **