Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
When I opened it in Acrobat Reader I couldn't copy. The document properties in Acrobat shows Content Copying: Not allowed Content Copying for Accessibility: Allowed Apparently, different viewers interpret these properties differently, since (as others have reported) it can be copied from it when it is opened in Safari using whatever (non-Adobe) PDF plugin I have, and likewise for Preview or in a little app called PDFview. Since it can be copied from using Evince in linux, I guess the solution isn't necessarily "Get a Mac". Something else that would work is to run it through an OCR program, most of these can now be used with any PDF that can be opened. You're right, that doc is protected. If you can't talk them into sending you one that isn't, you may be forced to ocr. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:36 PM, gerald wrote: link http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, gerald wrote: > http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf evince (Document Viewer) in Ubuntu works ok with cut'n'paste. File -> Properties reports "Security: No" * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:52 AM, gerald wrote: > what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut and > paste format. > > i want about half a page from a 250 page document. i do this fairly often. > > I didn't see anyone mention the "Snapshot Tool" in Adobe Reader. Sometimes you don't really have to have the text, just something readable in your document. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
do a simple screenshot, save as bmp and do ocr ...many free ocr apps out there allovertheplace ... -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:ger...@slawecki.com] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:27 PM Subject: Re: cut and paste a pdf document is "protected" all locked up. as suggested by above, wife opened it in mac preview and can copy it. so much for "protection" thanks. for info. At 04:44 PM 2/1/2009, you wrote: >>I just downloaded a doc from the Fannie Mae web sit called q12008.pdf >>and was able to cut and paste freely. >>The pdf download add-on for Firefox would not open it in Firefox but >>Preview on Mac OS X had no problem. > >Good point. Sometimes the browser plugins don't let you do everything >you >should be able to do. It is best to download the file and open it in >Preview or Acrobat Reader, or even better with the full version of >Acrobat. > > >*** >** >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
document is "protected" all locked up. as suggested by above, wife opened it in mac preview and can copy it. so much for "protection" thanks. for info. At 04:44 PM 2/1/2009, you wrote: >>I just downloaded a doc from the Fannie Mae web sit called q12008.pdf >>and was able to cut and paste freely. >>The pdf download add-on for Firefox would not open it in Firefox but >>Preview on Mac OS X had no problem. > >Good point. Sometimes the browser plugins don't let you do everything you >should be able to do. It is best to download the file and open it in >Preview or Acrobat Reader, or even better with the full version of >Acrobat. > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
No problem copying and pasting with Preview. Interesting! gerald wrote: link http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
Abby Fine reader does this also. Stewart At 03:54 PM 2/1/2009, you wrote: Some/many .pdf files are scanned, and therefore total bitmaps. There is no text information in them at all. If you want to extract text information from the .pdf file, the only recourse is to OCR it. Some OCR programs will process a .pdf file directly. Or, as someone else has said, you could print the document and then scan/OCR the paper copy. OmniPage Pro is stated to have the capability to OCR .pdf files directly, but I've never tried to do that. I have used OminPage Pro OCR in conjunction with scanning a paper document, although not recently. Kleptomania 2.6 from http://www.structurise.com/ is a program (systray utility) for OCRing small amounts of text. But it has to "learn" the fonts that it will be OCRing. So if the .pdf document uses a font that isn't installed on your computer, you will not get good results. I use Kleptomania occasionally to capture (copy) error messages when the Windows copy command doesn't work. Structurise has been in business for a long time. I have Kleptomania 1.0 from 1998. All of the above only for making legal copies, of course. Fred Holmes Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
>Some/many .pdf files are scanned, and therefore total bitmaps. There is >no text information in them at all. If you want to extract text >information from the .pdf file, the only recourse is to OCR it. Some OCR >programs will process a .pdf file directly. Adobe Acrobat includes built-in OCR capability. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
MS Office Document Imaging will OCR also... db Fred Holmes wrote: At 02:10 PM 2/1/2009, gerald wrote: it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big supporter and user of the pdf format and usually do not allow funny programs into house. i cannot imagine they would lock it. however, when i try to do cut and paste in foxpro, the cut and paste are sort of beiged out. i tried to open the document in photoshop and security wanted the "master password" so i guess the document is locked. Some/many .pdf files are scanned, and therefore total bitmaps. There is no text information in them at all. If you want to extract text information from the .pdf file, the only recourse is to OCR it. Some OCR programs will process a .pdf file directly. Or, as someone else has said, you could print the document and then scan/OCR the paper copy. OmniPage Pro is stated to have the capability to OCR .pdf files directly, but I've never tried to do that. I have used OminPage Pro OCR in conjunction with scanning a paper document, although not recently. Kleptomania 2.6 from http://www.structurise.com/ is a program (systray utility) for OCRing small amounts of text. But it has to "learn" the fonts that it will be OCRing. So if the .pdf document uses a font that isn't installed on your computer, you will not get good results. I use Kleptomania occasionally to capture (copy) error messages when the Windows copy command doesn't work. Structurise has been in business for a long time. I have Kleptomania 1.0 from 1998. All of the above only for making legal copies, of course. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
At 02:10 PM 2/1/2009, gerald wrote: >it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i >presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big >supporter and user of the pdf format and usually do not allow funny programs >into house. > >i cannot imagine they would lock it. however, when i try to do cut and paste >in foxpro, the cut and paste are sort of beiged out. > >i tried to open the document in photoshop and security wanted the "master >password" so i guess the document is locked. Some/many .pdf files are scanned, and therefore total bitmaps. There is no text information in them at all. If you want to extract text information from the .pdf file, the only recourse is to OCR it. Some OCR programs will process a .pdf file directly. Or, as someone else has said, you could print the document and then scan/OCR the paper copy. OmniPage Pro is stated to have the capability to OCR .pdf files directly, but I've never tried to do that. I have used OminPage Pro OCR in conjunction with scanning a paper document, although not recently. Kleptomania 2.6 from http://www.structurise.com/ is a program (systray utility) for OCRing small amounts of text. But it has to "learn" the fonts that it will be OCRing. So if the .pdf document uses a font that isn't installed on your computer, you will not get good results. I use Kleptomania occasionally to capture (copy) error messages when the Windows copy command doesn't work. Structurise has been in business for a long time. I have Kleptomania 1.0 from 1998. All of the above only for making legal copies, of course. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
>I just downloaded a doc from the Fannie Mae web sit called q12008.pdf >and was able to cut and paste freely. >The pdf download add-on for Firefox would not open it in Firefox but >Preview on Mac OS X had no problem. Good point. Sometimes the browser plugins don't let you do everything you should be able to do. It is best to download the file and open it in Preview or Acrobat Reader, or even better with the full version of Acrobat. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
You're right, that doc is protected. If you can't talk them into sending you one that isn't, you may be forced to ocr. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:36 PM, gerald wrote: > link > > http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
link http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
I just downloaded a doc from the Fannie Mae web sit called q12008.pdf and was able to cut and paste freely. The pdf download add-on for Firefox would not open it in Firefox but Preview on Mac OS X had no problem. gerald wrote: it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big supporter and user of the pdf format and usually do not allow funny programs into house. i cannot imagine they would lock it. however, when i try to do cut and paste in foxpro, the cut and paste are sort of beiged out. i tried to open the document in photoshop and security wanted the "master password" so i guess the document is locked. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
Linkage? On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:10 PM, gerald wrote: > it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i > presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big > supporter and user of the pdf format and usually do not allow funny programs > into house. > > i cannot imagine they would lock it. however, when i try to do cut and paste > in foxpro, the cut and paste are sort of beiged out. > > i tried to open the document in photoshop and security wanted the "master > password" so i guess the document is locked. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big supporter and user of the pdf format and usually do not allow funny programs into house. i cannot imagine they would lock it. however, when i try to do cut and paste in foxpro, the cut and paste are sort of beiged out. i tried to open the document in photoshop and security wanted the "master password" so i guess the document is locked. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
In Foxit Reader (free) I just select the cursor icon (next to the hand icon) and copy away. Failing that, you can always just print it out and ocr it. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:52 AM, gerald wrote: > what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut and > paste format. > > i want about half a page from a 250 page document. i do this fairly often. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
>what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut and >paste format. Select the text with the Select Text tool. Then Copy and paste it. If that doesn't work, check Document Properties (Security) to see if it is locked. You may need to get a password to unlock the document. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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>I'm sure that there is a way to defeat this, probably by using a full >featured pdf editor, but it may be what the author(s) wanted. Yes, but that would be an illegal violation of the DMCA and we don't do illegal here. If the document is locked for copying you must bring that up with the document owner, not circumvent their settings. If I asked if there is a way to hack TurboTax to give me a large, undeserved tax refund, would you tell me how? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
> what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut > and paste format. > > i want about half a page from a 250 page document. i do this fairly > often. It depends on how the pdf was generated. Some have security embedded within the file that makes copying the text not possible by normal methods. I'm sure that there is a way to defeat this, probably by using a full featured pdf editor, but it may be what the author(s) wanted. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut and paste format. i want about half a page from a 250 page document. i do this fairly often. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *