Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-21 Thread mike
You should actually listen to what we're talking about. Oh wait I forgot who I am talking to. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:50 PM, mike wrote: It wasn't just the degree that set Dvorak off, it was also Kundra's behavior during an

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-20 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 19, 2009, at 5:30 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Dvorak was more annoyed with the quality of the school he went to. U Md has a very good Computer Science program. It is the best in this area, which has lots of schools with

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-20 Thread mike
TWIT podcast this week also discussed Dvorak's column and the complaints about it all the way to the white house. It wasn't just the degree that set Dvorak off, it was also Kundra's behavior during an appearance at I believe was in front of some senators. His basic point being the guy was full

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-20 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: TWIT podcast this week also discussed Dvorak's column and the complaints about it all the way to the white house. It wasn't just the degree that set Dvorak off, it was also Kundra's behavior during an appearance at I believe was

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-20 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:50 PM, mike wrote: It wasn't just the degree that set Dvorak off, it was also Kundra's behavior during an appearance at I believe was in front of some senators. His basic point being the guy was full of BS web 2.0 doubletalk that makes no sense when actually analyzed.

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-19 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:29 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 17, 2009, at 8:12 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: John C. Dvorak was going off about this on the No Agenda podcast he does with Adam Curry. Curry is a little too tinfoil hat for my tastes but can be amusing in his paranoia.

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-19 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 19, 2009, at 5:30 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Dvorak was more annoyed with the quality of the school he went to. U Md has a very good Computer Science program. It is the best in this area, which has lots of schools with CS departments. Kundra has also demonstrated the ability to

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-19 Thread mike
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:19 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 19, 2009, at 5:30 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Dvorak was more annoyed with the quality of the school he went to. U Md has a very good Computer Science program. It is the best in this area, which has lots of schools with

[CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread mike
Reports indicate that new multimillion dollar website is being done with drupal. Whoever sold this load of hogcrap to our government really made out on our dime. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Dunford
Reports indicate that new multimillion dollar website is being done with drupal. Whoever sold this load of hogcrap to our government really made out on our dime. What I read was that the contract wasn't just for the web site. Most of the money was for the infrastructure behind it (databases

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread mike
Yeah open source...free. Half the work was already done for them. Not only was this company taking an existing website and merely rebuilding it, they are using pre built tools to do it. What are they doing exactly for ten million? Oh that's right, with the new transparency that info is

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread mike
The hardware was supplied by the government from what I read...this was JUST for the coding etc. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Reports indicate that new multimillion dollar website is being done with drupal. Whoever sold this load of hogcrap to our

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:35 PM, mike wrote: Yeah open source...free. Half the work was already done for them. Not only was this company taking an existing website and merely rebuilding it, they are using pre built tools to do it. What are they doing exactly for ten million? Oh that's

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread mike
It's not with drupal, it's the fact they are using prebuilt systems for their website...should be SAVING money...what this website would have cost 25 million otherwise? recovery.org only monitors recovery spending..another website called fedspending.org monitors ALL government spending and did it

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Dunford
The hardware was supplied by the government from what I read...this was JUST for the coding etc. I meant the software infrastructure, not the hardware infrastructure. My point was that it wasn't just for the web site; there's a lot of code behind it that you can't see. Just design and coding

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread mike
The software infrastructure was supplied by drupal...which was my point. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: The hardware was supplied by the government from what I read...this was JUST for the coding etc. I meant the software infrastructure, not the

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread db
Correct me if I am wrong but drupal is just a software Content Management System tool ... a backend framework for developers to use in integrating systems such as databases, email, RSS, telephony, websites etc. You don't have anything until you create something with it which of course

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Dunford
The software infrastructure was supplied by drupal...which was my point. The software infrastructure for the web site. The web site wasn't the whole project. Unless I misunderstand what drupal provides, aren't you leaving out the whole rest of the project? We're all against government waste

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Reports indicate that new multimillion dollar website is being done with drupal. Whoever sold this load of hogcrap to our government really made out on our dime. John C. Dvorak was going off about this on the No Agenda podcast

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 17, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The software infrastructure for the web site. The web site wasn't the whole project. Unless I misunderstand what drupal provides, aren't you leaving out the whole rest of the project? Of course they are leaving out the majority of the

Re: [CGUYS] drupal for only 10 million

2009-08-17 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 17, 2009, at 5:48 PM, mike wrote: It's not with drupal, it's the fact they are using prebuilt systems for their website...should be SAVING money...what this website would have cost 25 million otherwise? Precisely, using high-quality open-source frameworks like drupal is going to