Re: [CGUYS] Cuil Not Cool

2008-07-29 Thread Mike Sloane
I heard a report from a technology reporter on CBS radio yesterday - he was not at all impressed. Apparently the GUI is nice, but the rank order is something of a mystery. Mike Tom Piwowar wrote: Has anyone tried the Google-killer site cuil (cuil.com)? All I get is No results because of

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Jeff Wright
Two free applications for the iPhone and iPod Touch, and another program that costs only $4.99, make it possible to listen to live radio on the iPhone from anywhere, including a moving car... No, radio (and the NAB) will kill radio. Who cares what you can listen to it on, the product is just

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread John covici
I will check, as I recall, there is no install charge. on Tuesday 07/29/2008 Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote I get my news from the Post (paper) and from NPR. I don't listen much to commercial radio, except the occasional baseball game. I don't watch TV at all. I get

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread John covici
Sorry for the incorrect posting. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Problems with Dell Power Supply

2008-07-29 Thread Richard P.
Rosenberg, Alan [USA] wrote: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:11:01 -0700 My vintage 2002 Dell Dimension 4600 desktop (XP Home) has had a power supply issue for a while. The power switch on the tower case is a momentary pushbutton, not a toggle switch. In the past couple of months, if I turn off power

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have an iPod, but have never gotten news from it (my iPod is before the Touch model). News paper circulation shrinks every year. If radio shrinks too, where will you all get your news? There are more podcast feeds than I can keep up with. Some of the best are from NPR, CBC, BBC, and some

Re: [CGUYS] Emotional About (Cisco) Hardware?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
They effectively proved that the fellow was right to with hold that information from the idiots in charge. I was telling someone about the story this morning and came to the same conclusion. The city's IT dept looks to be managed by a bunch of idiots. The netadmin was just protecting his

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the

Re: [CGUYS] Emotional About (Cisco) Hardware?

2008-07-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It reminded me of an incident my brother had years ago while working for a major company. My brothers is the IT Manager for a division of a major travel property management company. He manages the local office and is in charge of the equipment and such plus does data work. A network guy

Re: [CGUYS] Cuil Not Cool

2008-07-29 Thread Ellen Harris
The stuff I was searching for was a little esoteric (my own website, my husband's name) but Cuil found none of it. While Google finds TONS of references. Not Cuil. Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, because when there are no results, it just says can't find anything I tried

Re: [CGUYS] turning stuff off

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I come late to this discussion and am not sure of the beginning but when power supplies start to fail sometimes they don't have enough oomph to power up what they previously could so after attempting to spin things up, they (the motherboard) reverts to a showing single blinking green or

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Jeff Wright
Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? I think not! I thought the squirting commment was fairly droll for

Re: [CGUYS] Emotional About (Cisco) Hardware?

2008-07-29 Thread Jeff Wright
I was telling someone about the story this morning and came to the same conclusion. The city's IT dept looks to be managed by a bunch of idiots. The netadmin was just protecting his loved ones. No question about that. But someone had to hire the idiots in charge in the first place. You'd

[CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Michel Lowe
Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I should just switch to decaf today... ;-)

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It all depends. In the latest release of Eudora actually done by Eudora, they turn into icons. The Icons actually let you know there is something else there. Otherwise I have a hard time deciphering all the punctuation marks, and it reminds me of reading Hebrew! Stewart At 10:23 AM

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 11:23 AM -0400 7/29/08, Michel Lowe wrote: Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread mike
That's what I was thinking, more creative then the usuall MS comment...I had to laugh too. Mike On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Allen Firstenberg
The problem is that often there just isn't enough context to realize that the person is trying to be humorous/ironic/sarcastic. In traditional print, you'd have lots and lots of written words to realize this. In realspace, you can judge the body language of the person making the statement. In

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Chris Dunford
But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Ain't nothing wrong with my

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Chris Dunford
The problem is that often there just isn't enough context to realize that the person is trying to be humorous/ironic/sarcastic. In traditional print, you'd have lots and lots of written words to realize this. In realspace, you can judge the body language of the person making the statement.

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
I use both WPC and Mac. I am neither. Your comment shows minimal attention, or is just gratuitous. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? Now I'm confused. I was under the impression that the glitterati use Macs,

[CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Michael S. Altus
When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound, dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At first, I thought it is a time signal at the start of an hour, but I hear it at other times. Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications,

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Tony B
Are you sure it's not duh-dum-duh-duh-dum-dum-dum-duh-dum? On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Michael S. Altus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound, dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At first, I thought it is a time

Re: [CGUYS] Cuil Not Cool

2008-07-29 Thread gerald
one of my biggest complaints with google is that they frequently do not produce the website of the searched name. cuil does not seem to do any better. At 11:04 AM 7/29/2008, you wrote: The stuff I was searching for was a little esoteric (my own website, my husband's name) but Cuil found none

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I wrote depressing not insulting. If they were merely insulting I would not care since that is something going on in your head. Contradistinctively, depressing is something going on in my head. That I care about. Do you think this needs a Smiley?

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Now I'm confused. I was under the impression that the glitterati use Macs, and only busboys and their ilk use Windows. But I was referring to those who *make* Windows not those who *use* Windows. Note that those who make Windows made themselves fantastically rich by over charging their

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone

2008-07-29 Thread Chris Dunford
Do you think this needs a Smiley? [ ] Yes [X] No [ ] What is a Smiley? The only troubling thing is, should the above have '' or not? It is a quote but also a reply. This is deeply concerning. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone

2008-07-29 Thread Tony B
Depends on whether you're smiling as you type it. We *have* to encourage people in our forums to use smileys liberally. Being community forums, many of them are new to computers and don't understand that the sarcasm they've used their whole life just won't work the same way online because nobody

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone

2008-07-29 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
No. Probably only the Welcome to HEAVEN and the Welcome to HADES signs need smileys. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I wrote depressing not insulting. If they were merely insulting I would not care since that is something going

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Michael Lewis
Michael S. Altus sez: dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum That looks like Morse code. Is it an electronic tone? Are there pauses in it (to determine the exact letters)? Do you live close to a aircraft navigation beacon (usually or some other radio signal tower? My speakers pick up feedback from

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Richard P.
When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound, dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At first, I thought it is a time signal at the start of an hour, but I hear it at other times. Thanks, Michael Do you have a cellphone nearby? When my cellphone talks

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound, dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At first, I thought it is a time signal at the start of an hour, but I hear it at other times. Probably QRM from a passing vehicle. Check your grounds.

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Okay I regret the remark because it sucked the air out of the discussion of a really interesting and important topic. This week we have Serious and XM merging because the market for their services was not as large as they expected. When they first arrived on the scene I said (on air) that I

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes and no. Where I think the Satellite radios have it over Internet radio is sports. The way sports events are licensed you will not find them on conventional internet radio. I am a big Nascar fan and would like one of the satellite radios to catch races when in the car. (There is no

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread rlsimon
Wachit ...sound card is saying something... Maybe it's dum-dum-dum-da-da-da-dum-dum-dum or is it dum-dum-da-dum, dum-da-dum, da-dum, da-dum ?? Check basement for captives trying their hand at morse code... http://4arainyday.com/RainyDayArticles/tabid/56/articleType/ArticleView/arti

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread John DeCarlo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The problem is that often there just isn't enough context to realize that the person is trying to be humorous/ironic/sarcastic. In Yes, I think this is exactly right. Email, forums, listserv posts, IMs, and the like

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Out in the country I got it when passing electrified fences. Stewart At 01:12 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound, dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At first, I thought it is a time signal at the start of an hour,

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread John DeCarlo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: That's what I was thinking, more creative then the usuall MS comment...I had to laugh too. OK, yeah, maybe it was marginally less annoying than the usual comments. But I'm just so tired of it, y'know? OMG, someone

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Allen Firstenberg
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:38:09PM -0400, John DeCarlo wrote: Agree that icons make it a little easier, but they go overboard, too - what does the smiley face with a hat on at a rakish angle mean about the text just preceeding it? That the author is trying, and failing, to be cute.

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Even the friendliest comment has been grossly misinterpreted for lack of smileys. But here we are all experienced geeks and we know all about that misapprehension stuff. Noboby here would ever make such an error. And just in case WE HAVE THE FISHES!

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
The only troubling thing is, should the above have '' or not? It is a quote but also a reply. This is deeply concerning. And you top posted thereby offending half the List members! * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
OMG, someone is annoyed!! Quick.. Go feed the fishes! Go feed the fishes! Inhale, exhale. Repeat. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Constance Warner
Will the iPhone kill radio? Not for awhile yet--for lots of reasons. You can get a really groovy short-wave set that will fit in a purse or the small zipper compartment of a knapsack for around $20. There's no subscription charge, and the reception is pretty good. It runs on batteries that I

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread mike
Not with users like we have. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, gratuitous insult is an oxymoron when applied to Microsoft. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone

2008-07-29 Thread mike
If we aren't offending at least some, some of the time, the list would get boring indeed. Mike On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only troubling thing is, should the above have '' or not? It is a quote but also a reply. This is deeply concerning. And

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Rich Schinnell
At 03:10 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: Date:Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:37:46 -0500 From:Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unusual sound on speakers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Out in the country I got it when passing electrified

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Thank God I was there when I was an adult No one ever did that to me, but then again I do not think getting one over on the Pastor was like that. :-) Oh for the days of fresh milk, cheese curds and the smell of dairy air!!! Stewart Rich Schinnell wrote: Brings back old memories of us

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I might buy an iPhone-type device some day, because I love cool gadgets. But for now: Should I pay hundreds of dollars to get an iPhone, and switch phone services to a service that doesn't work very well in this area (and that will lock me into a two-year contract), just so I can listen to RADIO?

[CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-07-29 Thread Steve Rigby
22 public interest groups roast FCC smutless broadband plan By Matthew Lasar | Published: July 29, 2008 - 08:55AM CT They may not agree on net neutrality or the Fairness Doctrine, but almost half a dozen advocacy groups from liberal to libertarian do concur on one issue: they hate Federal

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread db
Some speaker cabling is shielded so less vulnerable to picking up such... some is not. db Richard P. wrote: When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound, dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At first, I thought it is a time signal at the start of an

Re: [CGUYS] Emotional About (Cisco) Hardware?

2008-07-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:40 AM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two wrongs don't make a right... But three lefts do. :) db John Duncan Yoyo wrote: They effectively proved that the fellow was right to with hold that information from the idiots in charge. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:01 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
TechDirt has a story on ATT cutting off users of P2P software on thier 3g network. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080729/0135151823.shtml Can Pandora be far behind? Radio is broadcast more listeners cost nothing while internet traffic is narrow cast every listener ads a little bit of cost

Re: [CGUYS] Emotional About (Cisco) Hardware?

2008-07-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
And two made an airplane fly! Stewart At 06:07 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:40 AM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two wrongs don't make a right... But three lefts do. :) db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread Jeff Wright
When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound, dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At first, I thought it is a time signal at the start of an hour, but I hear it at other times. Nearby Nextel phone. I've gotten it with a Treo too.

Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?

2008-07-29 Thread Paula Minor
There are more podcast feeds than I can keep up with. Some of the best are from NPR, CBC, BBC, and some local stations. iTunes keeps filling up with more and more good stuff. I especially like APM's Future Tense. These are short, 5-minute programs that often inform me of tech events that are

Re: [CGUYS] Cuil Not Cool

2008-07-29 Thread Paula Minor
The stuff I was searching for was a little esoteric (my own website, my husband's name) but Cuil found none of it. While Google finds TONS of references. Not Cuil. I didn't care for it's appearance at all but I do have to say that in searching for my name it did as well as Google.

Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)

2008-07-29 Thread Paula Minor
Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I should just switch to decaf today... ;-) Yep,

Re: [CGUYS] Unusual sound on speakers

2008-07-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I have my speakers on, I periodically get a sound, dum-dum-duh-duh-duh-dum-dum-duh-dum. Does anyone know what that is? At first, I thought it is a time signal at the start of an hour, but I hear it at other times.