Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:48 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: My Mac SE [1987] still works. It runs PageMaker 2, maybe FreeHand, Illustrator, MacDraw, MacWrite, a few games; has a 20 MB HD, 4 MB RAM. Still works, not  useful. My mobile phone is smarter. All 6 of our old Macs work, but

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:51 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote:  My G3 Mac desktop still runs great, and most importantly to me, it runs Freehand, an application that I just cannot really do without unless I want to spend a lot of money.  Obsolete?  Definitely. Useful?  

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
No you just do a lot of thinking, commendable. Especially on this list. Stewart At 06:53 AM 3/17/2010, you wrote: Oops. An extra I think in there. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I remember guiding people over the phone on how to replace CMOS batteries almost 2 decades ago. Not for the faint hearted. System had to be running or you lost you settings. Stewart At 07:54 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote: Someone decided that most computer users are not smart enough to replace

Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me

2010-03-17 Thread mike
When do these new batteries get into laptops? On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:43 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Because Apple found that a hard to access battery could be made much larger, hence more battery life. They also found that the latest battery technology could give them batteries that

Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me

2010-03-17 Thread rleesimon
They want the $100 bucks regularly too... If the battery lasts 2 yrs, your unit cost goes up by 20% to keep it longer!! -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [mailto:revsamarsh...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:40 PM Subject: Re: noPad4me There is another reason

Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Spoken like a true fan. Only time will tell on that one Tom. But with Apple releasing a new version every couple of years of course you wont replace the battery, you just upgrade to a new version each time. Stewart At 07:43 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote: Because Apple found that a hard to

Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-17 Thread rleesimon
It was all wp4 or 5 and lotus 123 ...ah the good old days of fartzin'around with equations ... Self employment has one advantage... (the only one) -Original Message- From: Wayne Dernoncourt [mailto:way...@panix.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:55 PM To: rleesimon Subject: RE: PDF

Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-17 Thread Stewart Marshall
From a few reviews they are all pretty customizable, the nice part of being android. Stewart At 11:29 AM 3/17/2010, you wrote: I've never been fond of motorola's blur interface...unless I could drop Android back to the original home screens I think I'd clear from Moto Android phones. That

[CGUYS] FreeHand [Was: Apple to charge $107 for iPad...]

2010-03-17 Thread b_s-wilk
Steve phartz...@gmail.com escribió: My G3 Mac desktop still runs great, and most importantly to me, it runs Freehand, an application that I just cannot really do without unless I want to spend a lot of money. Obsolete? Definitely. Useful? Absolutely. I think? I think I share your

Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-17 Thread mike
I've never been fond of motorola's blur interface...unless I could drop Android back to the original home screens I think I'd clear from Moto Android phones. That is another good thing about Android, I've got four very different interface skins I can run on top of Android at the moment. On Mon,

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: My wife and I had a very volatile discussion last night as she thinks it is unfair that I serve a group that does not see my worth or pay me accordingly and expect me to do all the work. Wives are generally very good at telling the

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Vocation is a concept of calling, not indentured servitude. Problem is in this day and age those vacancies are fewer and farther between, and do not offer a substantial increase. We have over 6000 units (congregations) of various sizes. (Episcopal church is similar) At present we have

Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me

2010-03-17 Thread rleesimon
Even easier ...don't buy the ipad... -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: Re: noPad4me At 10:02 PM 3/15/2010, b_s-wilk wrote: This is easy. The iPad is a giant iPod Touch. We can open up the Touch to change the

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: So that is why we had such a volatile conversation. I have no where to go, so I must make this situation work! That is part of what Vocation is about. Working where you are and doing the best possible job you can. No matter what.

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 16, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Everyone likes to interpret data to their advantage. This list has been full of it over the years. No. These days we have people who are shamelessly willing to invent their own reality. See today's NYT... The New Rove-Cheney

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Totally unfair criticism. No more unfair than what you wrote about government. This morning as I switched on NPR I was assaulted by an idiot screaming Medicare is bankrupt, everything the government does is bankrupt. Maybe the

Re: [CGUYS] Is Verizon giving up on building out FIOS?

2010-03-17 Thread rleesimon
fios ...yeah, right! Years ago a bunch of trucks came down our little private lane serving 10+ homes (now 12) and strung fiberoptic cable on the poles ...there it sits. We are too far from the switching point to get DSL. After many years boasting proudly that I had never been a cable customer,

Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: WordPerfect is a far superior product to Word. WordPerfect was very late migrating to Windows and had very poor marketing. Thus MS already had the market share. And Word is good enough for 99% of the people, so they didn't consider trying

[CGUYS] Windows Phone 7: Too Much Like the iPhone?

2010-03-17 Thread tjp
http://www.pcworld.com/article/191723/windows_phone_7_too_much_like_the_iphone.html Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 Series promises to be an interesting addition to the wide range of smartphones already available, but it feels like Microsoft is copying Apple's strategy just a little too

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread mike
The Government *is* an insane asylum. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Maybe the government should be building more insane asylums? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Phone 7: Too Much Like the iPhone?

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Funny you never posted this when Palm did it...or Android...or Blackberry that copied push notification before Apple did it. That was way cool when Blackberry copied Apple before Apple even did it. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:25 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Is Verizon giving up on building out FIOS?

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 3:59 PM, rleesimon wrote: Isn't there something wrong here? The market has spoken. But don't fret. You will have no time for TV and Internet. We are raising your insurance rates so you'll need a second job to pay for it.

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Technically it is. I read a story this week, that stated that SS would start paying out more than it brought in. That is the definition of bankruptcy. As far as I know Medicare has been paying out more than it brings in every year. However since it is a government benefit they pay it all

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Over the years our government has gone to even more believing it's their money and not our money, one congressman or senator recently talked about how they (congress) were giving us more rights (he was talking about healthcare)...no one even bothered to tell him we aren't given our rights by him

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Phone 7: Too Much Like the iPhone?

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 4:51 PM, mike wrote: Funny you never posted this when Palm did it...or Android...or Blackberry that copied push notification before Apple did it. That was way cool when Blackberry copied Apple before Apple even did it. No I don't think Apple has developed time travel

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Technically it is. I read a story this week, that stated that SS would start paying out more than it brought in. That is the definition of bankruptcy. It's that time travel thing again. They are not, but they will, therefore they

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Glad to hear that Tom, problem is not many people live in your version of reality. Stewart At 05:05 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: It's that time travel thing again. They are not, but they will, therefore they are. Just not in my version of reality. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread mike
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_social_security_ious I know Tom will come up with some Obama is God or something about right wing nuts or neomicrosofticon plot...but this is from the AP. Indeed...paying more out than they bring in. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On

Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-17 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Fred Holmes At 07:30 PM 3/15/2010, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: I shoulda mentioned that she's firmly stuck in the 1980's and uses WordPerfect. She's talking about moving to Word but _really_ doesn't want to. She uses WP for everything including file management. WordPerfect is a far superior

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You same story I read. Medicare was never meant to be like SS where you have some supposed account set up and it pays out so much. It was always funded out of current expenses. Stewart At 05:42 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_social_security_ious I know Tom will

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Phone 7: Too Much Like the iPhone?

2010-03-17 Thread mike
So just the author thinks Apple invented push..nice to know yer still in reality in some cases. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 4:51 PM, mike wrote: Funny you never posted this when Palm did it...or Android...or Blackberry that copied push

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Sloane
In NJ, the build-out of FIOS must by regulation be done on a central office (CO) by central office basis - if they want to serve the customers in a particular area, they must offer to serve ALL the customers in that serving central office. i.e. if you are in the 998-321 office area, and

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Glad to hear that Tom, problem is not many people live in your version of reality. Following your logic, since we will all be dead, we are dead. So we might as well step off the cliff now. Your thought process is just not a way to

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:42 PM, mike wrote: I know Tom will come up with some Obama is God or something about right wing nuts or neomicrosofticon plot...but this is from the AP. Indeed...paying more out than they bring in. This assertion, while consistent with your totally nutty logic, isn't

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Notify the booby hatch in the area in which the author lives...I'm sure they will pick the guy up for spreading truths. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:54 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:42 PM, mike wrote: I know Tom will come up with some Obama is God or something about right

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I don't give advice on how to live. I leave that for Dear Abby. Ever wonder why they put astrology stuff on the same page or next to the comics? One reality we cannot escape today we live tomorrow we shall die. We just don't know when tomorrow will come. Stewart At 05:53 PM 3/17/2010, you

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Comics are REAL TOO?? On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Ever wonder why they put astrology stuff on the same page or next to the comics? * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Phone 7: Too Much Like the iPhone?

2010-03-17 Thread Chris Dunford
Funny you never posted this when Palm did it...or Android...or Blackberry that copied push notification before Apple did it. That was way cool when Blackberry copied Apple before Apple even did it. This guy thinks that push notification is the least of it. What differentiates Windows Phone 7

Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Specter calls Senate hearing on Web cam issues Sen. Arlen Specter (D., Pa.) said yesterday that the Judiciary subcommittee on crime and drugs, which he chairs, would meet in Philadelphia March 29 on the use of remote tracking software to take pictures using the built-in cameras on the

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Phone 7: Too Much Like the iPhone?

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Another for Android...twitter/facebook/gmail/myspace etc are integrated. After pulling contacts from gmail, I can link it to facebook and then any changes a facebook user makes..say phone number or just contact pic, changes automatically in my phone. One huge thing lacks though on Android, there

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Don't you just love the Wizard of Id? Stewart At 06:21 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: Comics are REAL TOO?? On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Ever wonder why they put astrology stuff on the same page or next to the comics?

Re: [CGUYS] FreeHand [Was: Apple to charge $107 for iPad...]

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:12 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Macromedia made FH for Mac worse for a few years, but FreeHand has always been a more versatile, user-friendly program than Illustrator. Adobe killed it because it competed with their inferior Illustrator. I have FH 10. It

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: As far as I know Medicare has been paying out more than it brings in every year. Hey, wouldn't those Death Panels take care of that problem? Steve

Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Like we don't have anything better for these guys to do. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:26 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: Specter calls Senate hearing on Web cam issues Sen. Arlen Specter (D., Pa.) said yesterday that the Judiciary subcommittee on crime and drugs, which he

Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Heyyou are right! Waitaminute here! We'll all be better off with Emanuel's complete lives system anyhoo. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:37 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: As far as I know

Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: From a few reviews they are all pretty customizable, the nice part of being android. While we are on the subject, perhaps someone can explain to me the nexus between the concept of freedom and cell phones?

Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Maybe freedom to not be on roaming charges every other day? Freedom to be anywhere in the city and get 3g as opposed to not. Freedom to get any information anywhere you are. Remember when you first had to find a payphone and stop and hope you had a dime to use it? Then you had the freedom of

Re: [CGUYS] FreeHand [Was: Apple to charge $107 for iPad...]

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:12 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I like FreeHand. I used Illustrator on and off since Illustrator 88. I hate it. It appears to be written by coders who know nothing about illustration or drawing. FreeHand [Altsys, Aldus] used so many of the metaphors that those of us who

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? The internet has made it a lot shorter. Today it is hard to compute in isolation.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 7:51 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: My G3 Mac desktop still runs great, and most importantly to me, it runs Freehand, an application that I just cannot really do without unless I want to spend a lot of money. Obsolete? Definitely. Useful? Absolutely. I think? I think I

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:58 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 7:51 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: My G3 Mac desktop still runs great, and most importantly to me, it runs Freehand, an application that I just cannot really do without unless I want to spend a lot of money.  

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:59 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Quite possibly.  What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? The internet has made it a lot shorter. Today it

Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:16 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe freedom to not be on roaming charges every other day?  Freedom to be anywhere in the city and get 3g as opposed to not.  Freedom to get any information anywhere you are.  Remember when you first had to find a payphone and

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread tjpa
On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:29 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that you have made an assumption that is incorrect. I use the G3 I have mentioned pretty much only to have Freehand available and to interface with my plotter/cutter. The good for you. The only other down side I can think of is

Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-17 Thread mike
Those who choose to be enslaved are I suppose. Those drivers with the ladders? They are probably happy to have that phone to make appointments and put food on the table for their kids and keep a roof. In smaller context which is where I thought you started, I consider it 'freedom' not to have

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread mike
I had one of those...once again Tom and I agree...damn ugly. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:04 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:29 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that you have made an assumption that is incorrect. I use the G3 I have mentioned pretty much only to

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:04 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The good for you. The only other down side I can think of is that ugly color of the case. True enough. I keep it mounted down low. Really can't even see it. Use a MS mouse with it and really like the way the G3 handles scrolling,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Answer me this question. I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names, Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc. Is there someplace where a neophyte can look these evolutions up? Stewart At 09:23 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: I had one of

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names, Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc. Is there someplace where a neophyte can look these evolutions up? Look here, Stewart:

Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink

2010-03-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:22 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Those who choose to be enslaved are I suppose.  Those drivers with the ladders?  They are probably happy to have that phone to make appointments and put food on the table for their kids and keep a roof. As in lucky just to have

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Thanks helps a lot. Stewart At 10:14 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names, Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc. Is there someplace where a neophyte

Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News

2010-03-17 Thread b_s-wilk
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:59 PM, CITY BOY t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? The internet has made it a lot shorter.

[CGUYS] Apple's Code Names

2010-03-17 Thread b_s-wilk
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names, Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc. Is there someplace where a neophyte can look these evolutions up? Look here, Stewart: