[CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread gerald
i am running my new econoAcer with Vista.  

How long does it take before the typical 70yo stops hating Vista?

The pictures imbedded in Eudora (terminal version) messages do not appear.  is 
there a toggle somewhere for this?

i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had 
programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c drive and 
cannot find a folder with that name. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Sue Cubic

At 03:25 PM 07/30/2008 -0400, gerald wrote


i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had 
programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c 
drive and cannot find a folder with that name.


The name of the folder is attach--not attachments.  Try that.

Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Chris Dunford
 i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had
 programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c
 drive and cannot find a folder with that name.

I don't know about your other question, but Vista in general does not want
data to be stored under the Program Files folder (which is very sensible, by
the way).

If Eudora has been updated correctly for Vista, it will put them somewhere
else. The most likely candidate is somewhere in your user folder, like
AppData.  You may also have a folder named ProgramData that you could look
at.

Is there no info in the help or on their web site?


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Fred Holmes
Vista security is rumored to not allow any writes at all to the Program 
Files folder.  One solution might be to reinstall Eudora to some other folder, 
even d:\EUDORA\, for which you have write privileges.  I think Vista would 
consider Eudora to be a rogue program.

My Eudora V6 puts embedded pictures (.jpg files, generally) in an \Embedded\ 
folder, not in the \Attach\ folder.  It's in the Eudora folder as well.  I 
just run Eudora from a portable hard drive and it doesn't require any registry 
entries to run, at least in Win2K.

Fred Holmes

At 03:25 PM 7/30/2008, gerald wrote:
i am running my new econoAcer with Vista.  

How long does it take before the typical 70yo stops hating Vista?

The pictures imbedded in Eudora (terminal version) messages do not appear.  is 
there a toggle somewhere for this?

i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had 
programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c drive 
and cannot find a folder with that name. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
If you installed Eudroa using custom, you could create your own data 
(attach) folder where you wanted.  Otherwise it defaulted to the 
appdata folder under c:\documents and settings.


That was under XP.

I have always kept my Eudora as a separate folder as its own root not 
in program files.


If however you are using the newer Eudora (thunderbird collaboration) 
they default to appdata just like Outlook does.


Stewart


At 02:51 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote:

 i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista.  xp had
 programsqualcomeudoraattachments.  is there one?  i searched the c
 drive and cannot find a folder with that name.

I don't know about your other question, but Vista in general does not want
data to be stored under the Program Files folder (which is very sensible, by
the way).

If Eudora has been updated correctly for Vista, it will put them somewhere
else. The most likely candidate is somewhere in your user folder, like
AppData.  You may also have a folder named ProgramData that you could look
at.

Is there no info in the help or on their web site?


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread mike
How  would you install any programs if you can't write to that folder?

Mike

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Vista security is rumored to not allow any writes at all to the
  Program Files folder

 Just curious, why the quotes?


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Chris Dunford
 How  would you install any programs if you can't write to that folder?

Installation is different. You can install programs into Program Files, but
the programs aren't allowed to write their own data there after
installation.

I had also forgotten something else in my earlier reply, which is why legacy
programs that try to write to Program Files should still work. The data they
try to write there gets put into a virtual store, which is actually a real
folder in the user's space. For example, IrfanView does this, and its data
ends up (on my system) in Users\Chris\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
Files\IrfanView. When IrfanView tries to read/write in Program Files, Vista
will quietly use the virtual store instead.

A lot of people forget (or don't know) that Program Files was not writable
under XP either--if you ran as a standard user. But since nobody did, it
wasn't an issue.
 


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Fred Holmes
At 07:43 PM 7/30/2008, mike wrote:
How  would you install any programs if you can't write to that folder?

Mike


You run the installation logged on as administrator.  But for simple 
productivity computing, you never run as administrator.  All programs write 
settings to the registry and write data to a data directory.

MS has now gotten to the point where no program can simply be copied from one 
machine to another (or carried on a portable hard drive) that uses Vista run 
according to the nominal security rules.


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Fred Holmes
Something that is completely locked down is of course secure but of 
reduced/little usability.  I have my Eudora, with all data and setting files in 
the Eudora directory, on a portable hard drive that I can plug into any machine 
(in principle) and run my full mail client with all of its features, address 
books, filters, and archives, etc. from any machine that isn't locked down.  
Thus, in my circumstance, having a desktop machine at every location that I'm 
likely to want to use e-mail, I can haul around a simple USB hard drive and no 
more. It works just fine on my Win2K and WinXP machines. I think I'm going to 
find myself out of luck on a Vista machine.

Sort of like having a gun in one's home for self defense, but the gun has to be 
disassembled, with a trigger guard lock locked in place, and in a locked 
cabinet, with no ammunition stored within reach (or whatever the new DC rules 
are).

Fred Holmes

At 05:44 PM 7/30/2008, Chris Dunford wrote:
 Vista security is rumored to not allow any writes at all to the
 Program Files folder

Just curious, why the quotes?


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Chris Dunford
 I have my Eudora, with all data and setting
 files in the Eudora directory, on a portable hard drive that I can plug
 into any machine (in principle) and run my full mail client with all of
 its features, address books, filters, and archives, etc. from any
 machine that isn't locked down

Sorry, I guess I'm not following. If you can run it from a portable drive,
then presumably the Eudora folder is on that drive and not in Program Files,
in which case there's no problem.  What am I missing?


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