Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
At 03:37 PM 6/14/2007, Tom Piwowar wrote: The instructions amounted to going to the web site of the manufacturer of the particular brand of U3 software and downloading the applet to remove the U3 CD drive and reformat the stick as one drive for the whole stick, FAT32. Have you tried right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Manage, then Disk management and then delete partitions from there? I seem to recall that I tried that first and found that the CD ROM partition was write protected or that removal wasn't straightforward to do. Fred Holmes * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
I seem to recall that I tried that first and found that the CD ROM partition was write protected or that removal wasn't straightforward to do. Are these sticks sold with a warning label? May make it impossible to use your PC in a normal manner. I guess it is a tribute to good marketing (or poor management) that companies are willing to pay a 5% royalty to make their products less desirable. Looks to me that U3 fits a special need. It should be sold as an add-on or the stick should come with an installer for those who want it. U3 works too much like those opt out mailing lists we are all subscribed to. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
There is a tool on u3's site to remove u3. http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ Let us know how it works. I haven't tried it but I have a mojopac on a U3 stick which is sort of confusing. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
Are these sticks sold with a warning label? May make it impossible to use your PC in a normal manner. What on earth are you talking about? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
Slightly off-topic. Riding the metro one day, I saw a picture in an ad of a guy holding a 5-sided chip in his hand; about the size of a CF card, maybe a bit larger. I couldn't read the ad's text right away, and I thought it might be computer-related. Once I was close enough to read it, it wasn't. It was bio-tech, something about the chip being used in some kind of testing or something. But, in between the time when I couldn't read the text and finally could, it gave me the idea of how cool it would be if you could carry around your OS and apps on a chip, maybe data too. Imagine being able to walk up to any computer with the right slot and just plug in *your* computer. Work on it, pop it out when you're done and nothing left behind except the hardware to run it. I can't be the first to think of this. Anyone know of research going on in this regard? -Original Message- I understand why you might not need/want U3, but just for the record, U3 isn't crappy stuff at all. It's actually rather slick, and extremely useful for those who, for whatever reason, need to use their own software on other people's machines. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
But, in between the time when I couldn't read the text and finally could, it gave me the idea of how cool it would be if you could carry around your OS and apps on a chip, maybe data too. Imagine being able to walk up to any computer with the right slot and just plug in *your* computer... Yes it's cool. I have a relatively small jumpdrive that contains a bootable Amiga emulator and some apps and games. I can plug it in to a standard PC and voila, I'm running AmigaDOS and playing Reach for the Stars. This I guess could be generalized to more mainstream OSes if the drives get big enough. I already have the World's Smallest Amiga! :-) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
At 11:48 PM 6/15/2007, Jeff Wright wrote: But, in between the time when I couldn't read the text and finally could, it gave me the idea of how cool it would be if you could carry around your OS and apps on a chip, maybe data too. Imagine being able to walk up to any computer with the right slot and just plug in *your* computer. Work on it, pop it out when you're done and nothing left behind except the hardware to run it. I can't be the first to think of this. Anyone know of research going on in this regard? I'd love to be able to do this with today's external hard drives, just plugging into the USB (or FireWire) port. The reason you can't do this is because of Microsoft's policy. They would lose a lot of sales of the OS if what you advocate above would work. The real reason for the Registry is copy prevention. For those applications that don't require registry entries to run, you can run the app from an external drive just fine. My Eudora mail client is a prime example. I suspect you can boot from an external hard drive with modern motherboards, although I haven't tried it. Of course, to move around, you have to have drivers loaded for all the hardware (or at least the video cards) you will encounter wherever you may plug in your portable hard drive. Fred Holmes * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
The instructions amounted to going to the web site of the manufacturer of the particular brand of U3 software and downloading the applet to remove the U3 CD drive and reformat the stick as one drive for the whole stick, FAT32. Have you tried right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Manage, then Disk management and then delete partitions from there? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
So how can I actually get rid of the crappy U3 stuff. I understand why you might not need/want U3, but just for the record, U3 isn't crappy stuff at all. It's actually rather slick, and extremely useful for those who, for whatever reason, need to use their own software on other people's machines. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
Correct and it really does not take up that much room. I have a bunch of U3 utilities on my one memory stick and it still only take up 100MB on a 1 GB memory stick. At the price of these things having more than one is not uncalled for and keeping U3 on at least one of them is not that much of a hassle. Stewart At 02:11 PM 6/14/2007, you wrote: I understand why you might not need/want U3, but just for the record, U3 isn't crappy stuff at all. It's actually rather slick, and extremely useful for those who, for whatever reason, need to use their own software on other people's machines. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
I'm not positive but I think U3 requires software to actually rid the USB drive of the U3 stuff. Try going to www.u3.com Mike Have you tried right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Manage, then Disk management and then delete partitions from there? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
Chris Dunford So how can I actually get rid of the crappy U3 stuff. I understand why you might not need/want U3, but just for the record, U3 isn't crappy stuff at all. It's actually rather slick, and extremely useful for those who, for whatever reason, need to use their own software on other people's machines. It has a lot of potential. I'll admit I don't understand how it works but since it only works on Windows (2000|XP) and I have one rarely used machine that fits those requirements... BTW, right click on My computer - Manage requires admin privilege to actually do anything. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly A mime is a terrible thing to waste! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues
Stewart A. Marshall Correct and it really does not take up that much room. I have a bunch of U3 utilities on my one memory stick and it still only take up 100MB on a 1 GB memory stick. At the price of these things having more than one is not uncalled for and keeping U3 on at least one of them is not that much of a hassle. My biggest annoyance is that it automagically displays a CD-ROM drive on the system. This is true even if the system can't use the U3 stuff (Linux or Mac). The minimal space doesn't worry me, it's that annoying CD that keeps showing up. It might be even tolerable if I could boot my old Win98SE system from it (not much chance of that happening). -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Press any key to continue or any other key to quit * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived