Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-15 Thread Fred Holmes
At 03:37 PM 6/14/2007, Tom Piwowar wrote:
The instructions amounted to going to the web site of the manufacturer 
of the particular brand of U3 software and downloading the applet to 
remove the U3 CD drive and reformat the stick as one drive for the whole 
stick, FAT32.

Have you tried right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Manage, 
then Disk management and then delete partitions from there?

I seem to recall that I tried that first and found that the CD ROM partition 
was write protected or that removal wasn't straightforward to do.

Fred Holmes 



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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
I seem to recall that I tried that first and found that the CD ROM 
partition was write protected or that removal wasn't straightforward to do.

Are these sticks sold with a warning label? May make it impossible to 
use your PC in a normal manner. 

I guess it is a tribute to good marketing (or poor management) that 
companies are willing to pay a 5% royalty to make their products less 
desirable. 

Looks to me that U3 fits a special need. It should be sold as an add-on 
or the stick should come with an installer for those who want it. 

U3 works too much like those opt out mailing lists we are all 
subscribed to.



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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-15 Thread John Duncan Yoyo

There is a tool on u3's site to remove u3.
http://www.u3.com/uninstall/  Let us know how it works.  I haven't
tried it but I have a mojopac on a U3 stick which is sort of
confusing.


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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-15 Thread Chris Dunford
Are these sticks sold with a warning label? May make it impossible to 
use your PC in a normal manner. 

What on earth are you talking about?



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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-15 Thread Jeff Wright
Slightly off-topic.  Riding the metro one day, I saw a picture in an ad of a
guy holding a 5-sided chip in his hand; about the size of a CF card, maybe a
bit larger.  I couldn't read the ad's text right away, and I thought it
might be computer-related.  Once I was close enough to read it, it wasn't.
It was bio-tech, something about the chip being used in some kind of testing
or something.

But, in between the time when I couldn't read the text and finally could, it
gave me the idea of how cool it would be if you could carry around your OS
and apps on a chip, maybe data too.  Imagine being able to walk up to any
computer with the right slot and just plug in *your* computer.  Work on it,
pop it out when you're done and nothing left behind except the hardware to
run it.

I can't be the first to think of this.  Anyone know of research going on in
this regard?

 -Original Message-
 I understand why you might not need/want U3, but just for the record,
 U3 isn't crappy
 stuff at all. It's actually rather slick, and extremely useful for
 those who, for whatever
 reason, need to use their own software on other people's machines.



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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-15 Thread Eric S. Sande
But, in between the time when I couldn't read the text and finally could, 
it

gave me the idea of how cool it would be if you could carry around your OS
and apps on a chip, maybe data too.  Imagine being able to walk up to any
computer with the right slot and just plug in *your* computer...


Yes it's cool.  I have a relatively small jumpdrive that contains a bootable
Amiga emulator and some apps and games.  I can plug it in to a standard
PC and voila, I'm running AmigaDOS and playing Reach for the Stars.

This I guess could be generalized to more mainstream OSes if the drives
get big enough.

I already have the World's Smallest Amiga!

:-) 




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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-15 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:48 PM 6/15/2007, Jeff Wright wrote:
But, in between the time when I couldn't read the text and finally could, it
gave me the idea of how cool it would be if you could carry around your OS
and apps on a chip, maybe data too.  Imagine being able to walk up to any
computer with the right slot and just plug in *your* computer.  Work on it,
pop it out when you're done and nothing left behind except the hardware to
run it.

I can't be the first to think of this.  Anyone know of research going on in
this regard?

I'd love to be able to do this with today's external hard drives, just plugging 
into the USB (or FireWire) port. The reason you can't do this is because of 
Microsoft's policy.  They would lose a lot of sales of the OS if what you 
advocate above would work. The real reason for the Registry is copy prevention. 
 For those applications that don't require registry entries to run, you can run 
the app from an external drive just fine.  My Eudora mail client is a prime 
example.  I suspect you can boot from an external hard drive with modern 
motherboards, although I haven't tried it.  Of course, to move around, you have 
to have drivers loaded for all the hardware (or at least the video cards) you 
will encounter wherever you may plug in your portable hard drive.

Fred Holmes 



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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
The instructions amounted to going to the web site of the manufacturer 
of the particular brand of U3 software and downloading the applet to 
remove the U3 CD drive and reformat the stick as one drive for the whole 
stick, FAT32.

Have you tried right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Manage, 
then Disk management and then delete partitions from there?

 



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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-14 Thread Chris Dunford
So how can I actually get rid of the crappy U3 stuff.

I understand why you might not need/want U3, but just for the record, U3 isn't 
crappy
stuff at all. It's actually rather slick, and extremely useful for those who, 
for whatever
reason, need to use their own software on other people's machines.



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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-14 Thread Stewart A. Marshall
Correct and it really does not take up that much room.  I have a 
bunch of U3 utilities on my one memory stick and it still only take 
up 100MB on a 1 GB memory stick.  At the price of these things having 
more than one is not uncalled for and keeping U3 on at least one of 
them is not that much of a hassle.


Stewart


At 02:11 PM 6/14/2007, you wrote:
I understand why you might not need/want U3, but just for the 
record, U3 isn't crappy
stuff at all. It's actually rather slick, and extremely useful for 
those who, for whatever

reason, need to use their own software on other people's machines.


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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-14 Thread mike

I'm not positive but I think U3 requires software to actually rid the USB
drive of the U3 stuff.

Try going to www.u3.com

Mike

Have you tried right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Manage,
then Disk management and then delete partitions from there?





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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-14 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford
 So how can I actually get rid of the crappy U3 stuff.

 I understand why you might not need/want U3, but just for
 the record, U3 isn't crappy stuff at all. It's actually
 rather slick, and extremely useful for those who, for
 whatever reason, need to use their own software on other
 people's machines.

It has a lot of potential.  I'll admit I don't understand
how it works but since it only works on Windows (2000|XP)
and I have one rarely used machine that fits those
requirements...

BTW, right click on My computer - Manage requires admin
privilege to actually do anything.

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Re: [CGUYS] USB stick issues

2007-06-14 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Stewart A. Marshall
 Correct and it really does not take up that much room.  I
 have a bunch of U3 utilities on my one memory stick and
 it still only take up 100MB on a 1 GB memory stick.  At
 the price of these things having more than one is not
 uncalled for and keeping U3 on at least one of them is
 not that much of a hassle.

My biggest annoyance is that it automagically displays
a CD-ROM drive on the system.  This is true even if the
system can't use the U3 stuff (Linux or Mac).  The minimal
space doesn't worry me, it's that annoying CD that keeps
showing up.

It might be even tolerable if I could boot my old Win98SE
system from it (not much chance of that happening).

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