Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-09-03 Thread John J. Foerch 
I would like to have such a note on the wiki, but do we really know enough
about the problem to say anything authoritative about it?  Vague
documentation can become a problem in its own right, because
generalizations are difficult to fact-check later on, and when there may
be differences from version to version.  bugs.conkeror.org may be the
better place until we know more.

On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:22:24AM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> Hoorah! I can download images again. 
> 
> Is it perhaps appropriate to put a note on conkeror.org somewhere advising 
> against using the "firefox --app" way of running conkeror, at least for the 
> moment? Any firefox from 14+ is really buggy with conkeror.
> 
> John J. Foerch writes:
> 
> > Download the binary from mozilla and extract it to a directory.  Launch
> > conkeror with a script like:
> >
> >  exec /path/to/xulrunner/xulrunner-bin /path/to/conkeror/application.ini 
> > "$@"
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 10:42:09PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> >> Then, does anyone know an easy way of installing xulrunner directly on an 
> >> Ubuntu-based distro?
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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-09-03 Thread Benjamin Slade 
Hoorah! I can download images again. 


Is it perhaps appropriate to put a note on conkeror.org somewhere advising against using the "firefox –app" way of running conkeror, at least for the moment? Any firefox from 14+ is really buggy with conkeror.


John J. Foerch writes:


> Download the binary from mozilla and extract it to a directory.  Launch
> conkeror with a script like:
>
>  exec /path/to/xulrunner/xulrunner-bin /path/to/conkeror/application.ini "$@"
>
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 10:42:09PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
>> Then, does anyone know an easy way of installing xulrunner directly on an Ubuntu-based distro?
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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-09-02 Thread John J. Foerch 
Download the binary from mozilla and extract it to a directory.  Launch
conkeror with a script like:

 exec /path/to/xulrunner/xulrunner-bin /path/to/conkeror/application.ini "$@"

On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 10:42:09PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> Then, does anyone know an easy way of installing xulrunner directly on an 
> Ubuntu-based distro?
> 
> John J. Foerch writes:
> 
> > afaik, it only affects conkeror running on firefox -app.  Anybody willing
> > to do some deeper research into this problem, feel free to track your
> > findings on bugs.conkeror.org.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 05:33:39PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> >> I'm wondering about this issue (that I raised earlier) - http://
> >> comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.conkeror/3105 - involving conkeror 
> >> not
> >> saving properly (esp. images, though I've had some other weird 
> >> saving-related
> >> behaviour).
> >> 
> >> Everything worked well up to Firefox 13, and it's not worked properly with 
> >> any
> >> version after that. At the moment I'm running Firefox 16, but I've tried 
> >> with
> >> 14 and 17 as well. Is this something peculiar to conkeror when run with
> >> "firefox --app", or is it affecting "pure" xulrunner conkeror instances as
> >> well?
> >> 
> >> The problem is increasingly frustrating - I end up with a chromium instance
> >> open beside conkeror just so that I can download images. Is there any
> >> workaround?
> >> 
> >> On 17 August 2012 22:34, Ruben Maher  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Just checked, and yes I get the same error under 15. Understand that 
> >> it's
> >> > really Firefox rather than XULRunner per se, since I'm running on an
> >> > Ubuntu-based distro. I can't recall if the appearance of the error
> >> coincided
> >> > with a Firefox upgrade or not, unfortunately.
> >> 
> >> Please forgive me if this post doesn't go to the group properly. I've
> >> never tried replying to a mailing list from gmail before.
> >> 
> >> I thought you might like to know that I saw this error when I was
> >> running a conkeror built to depend on Firefox instead of Xulrunner.
> >> See the post by eworm here:
> >> 
> >> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54870&comments=all
> >> 
> >> You can see also that someone else has been having the same problem.
> >> Happily, the comment by rom748 "or you can just modify conkeror.sh
> >> like this ..." makes it depend on Xulrunner again and "s i" works as
> >> expected.
> >>
> >> Ruben
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> -
> >> Dr Benjamin Slade [http://ling.uta.edu/~ben/]
> >> Dept. of Linguistics & TESOL - University of Texas at Arlington   
> >> -
> >> Stæfcræft & Vyākaraṇa (lingblog) -http://staefcraeft.blogspot.com
> >> The Babbage Files (techblog) - http://babbagefiles.blogspot.com
> >> -
> >> Ongietan sceal gleaw hæle hu gæstlic bið,
> >> þonne ealre þisse worulde wela weste stondeð.
> >>  --The Wanderer, ll. 73-4.
> >> -
> >> "While corporations dominate society and write the laws,
> >>  each advance in technology is an opening for them
> >>  to further restrict its users."
> >>--Stallman's Law
> >> -
> >>  {Choose freedom: choose GNU & Linux.}
> >> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Dr Benjamin Slade [ http://ling.uta.edu/~ben/ ]
>   Dept. of Linguistics & TESOL - University of Texas at Arlington 
>
> 132E Hammond Hall | Office Hours: tba
> 
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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-09-02 Thread Benjamin Slade 
Then, does anyone know an easy way of installing xulrunner directly on an Ubuntu-based distro?


John J. Foerch writes:


> afaik, it only affects conkeror running on firefox -app.  Anybody willing
> to do some deeper research into this problem, feel free to track your
> findings on bugs.conkeror.org.
>
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 05:33:39PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
>> I'm wondering about this issue (that I raised earlier) - http://
>> comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.conkeror/3105 - involving conkeror not
>> saving properly (esp. images, though I've had some other weird saving-related
>> behaviour).
>> 
>> Everything worked well up to Firefox 13, and it's not worked properly with any
>> version after that. At the moment I'm running Firefox 16, but I've tried with
>> 14 and 17 as well. Is this something peculiar to conkeror when run with
>> "firefox –app", or is it affecting "pure" xulrunner conkeror instances as
>> well?
>> 
>> The problem is increasingly frustrating - I end up with a chromium instance
>> open beside conkeror just so that I can download images. Is there any
>> workaround?
>> 
>> On 17 August 2012 22:34, Ruben Maher  wrote:
>> 
>> > Just checked, and yes I get the same error under 15. Understand that it's
>> > really Firefox rather than XULRunner per se, since I'm running on an
>> > Ubuntu-based distro. I can't recall if the appearance of the error
>> coincided
>> > with a Firefox upgrade or not, unfortunately.
>> 
>> Please forgive me if this post doesn't go to the group properly. I've
>> never tried replying to a mailing list from gmail before.
>> 
>> I thought you might like to know that I saw this error when I was
>> running a conkeror built to depend on Firefox instead of Xulrunner.
>> See the post by eworm here:
>> 
>> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54870&comments=all
>> 
>> You can see also that someone else has been having the same problem.
>> Happily, the comment by rom748 "or you can just modify conkeror.sh
>> like this …" makes it depend on Xulrunner again and "s i" works as
>> expected.
>>
>> Ruben
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> -
>> Dr Benjamin Slade [http://ling.uta.edu/~ben/]
>> Dept. of Linguistics & TESOL - University of Texas at Arlington   
>> -
>> Stæfcræft & Vyākaraṇa (lingblog) -http://staefcraeft.blogspot.com
>> The Babbage Files (techblog) - http://babbagefiles.blogspot.com
>> -
>> Ongietan sceal gleaw hæle hu gæstlic bið,
>> þonne ealre þisse worulde wela weste stondeð.
>>  –The Wanderer, ll. 73-4.
>> -
>> "While corporations dominate society and write the laws,
>>  each advance in technology is an opening for them
>>  to further restrict its users."
>>–Stallman's Law
>> -
>>  {Choose freedom: choose GNU & Linux.}
>> 




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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-09-02 Thread John J. Foerch 
afaik, it only affects conkeror running on firefox -app.  Anybody willing
to do some deeper research into this problem, feel free to track your
findings on bugs.conkeror.org.

On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 05:33:39PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> I'm wondering about this issue (that I raised earlier) - http://
> comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.conkeror/3105 - involving conkeror not
> saving properly (esp. images, though I've had some other weird saving-related
> behaviour).
> 
> Everything worked well up to Firefox 13, and it's not worked properly with any
> version after that. At the moment I'm running Firefox 16, but I've tried with
> 14 and 17 as well. Is this something peculiar to conkeror when run with
> "firefox --app", or is it affecting "pure" xulrunner conkeror instances as
> well?
> 
> The problem is increasingly frustrating - I end up with a chromium instance
> open beside conkeror just so that I can download images. Is there any
> workaround?
> 
> On 17 August 2012 22:34, Ruben Maher  wrote:
> 
> > Just checked, and yes I get the same error under 15. Understand that 
> it's
> > really Firefox rather than XULRunner per se, since I'm running on an
> > Ubuntu-based distro. I can't recall if the appearance of the error
> coincided
> > with a Firefox upgrade or not, unfortunately.
> 
> Please forgive me if this post doesn't go to the group properly.  I've
> never tried replying to a mailing list from gmail before.
> 
> I thought you might like to know that I saw this error when I was
> running a conkeror built to depend on Firefox instead of Xulrunner.
> See the post by eworm here:
> 
> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54870&comments=all
> 
> You can see also that someone else has been having the same problem.
> Happily, the comment by rom748 "or you can just modify conkeror.sh
> like this ..." makes it depend on Xulrunner again and "s i" works as
> expected.
>
> Ruben
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> -
> Dr Benjamin Slade [http://ling.uta.edu/~ben/]
> Dept. of Linguistics & TESOL - University of Texas at Arlington               
>  
> -
> Stæfcræft & Vyākaraṇa (lingblog) - http://staefcraeft.blogspot.com
> The Babbage Files (techblog) - http://babbagefiles.blogspot.com
> -
> Ongietan sceal gleaw hæle hu gæstlic bið,
> þonne ealre þisse worulde wela   weste stondeð.
>  --The Wanderer, ll. 73-4.
> -
> "While corporations dominate society and write the laws,
>   each advance in technology is an opening for them
>   to further restrict its users."
>                                                        --Stallman's Law
> -
>    {Choose freedom: choose GNU & Linux.}
> 
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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-09-02 Thread Benjamin Slade 
I'm wondering about this issue (that I raised earlier) -
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.conkeror/3105 - involving
conkeror not saving properly (esp. images, though I've had some other weird
saving-related behaviour).

Everything worked well up to Firefox 13, and it's not worked properly with
any version after that. At the moment I'm running Firefox 16, but I've
tried with 14 and 17 as well. Is this something peculiar to conkeror when
run with "firefox --app", or is it affecting "pure" xulrunner conkeror
instances as well?

The problem is increasingly frustrating - I end up with a chromium instance
open beside conkeror just so that I can download images. Is there any
workaround?

On 17 August 2012 22:34, Ruben Maher  wrote:

> > Just checked, and yes I get the same error under 15. Understand that it's
> > really Firefox rather than XULRunner per se, since I'm running on an
> > Ubuntu-based distro. I can't recall if the appearance of the error
> coincided
> > with a Firefox upgrade or not, unfortunately.
>
> Please forgive me if this post doesn't go to the group properly.  I've
> never tried replying to a mailing list from gmail before.
>
> I thought you might like to know that I saw this error when I was
> running a conkeror built to depend on Firefox instead of Xulrunner.
> See the post by eworm here:
>
> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54870&comments=all
>
> You can see also that someone else has been having the same problem.
> Happily, the comment by rom748 "or you can just modify conkeror.sh
> like this ..." makes it depend on Xulrunner again and "s i" works as
> expected.
>
> Ruben
>



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-
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]*
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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-08-17 Thread Ruben Maher 
> Just checked, and yes I get the same error under 15. Understand that it's
> really Firefox rather than XULRunner per se, since I'm running on an
> Ubuntu-based distro. I can't recall if the appearance of the error coincided
> with a Firefox upgrade or not, unfortunately.

Please forgive me if this post doesn't go to the group properly.  I've
never tried replying to a mailing list from gmail before.

I thought you might like to know that I saw this error when I was
running a conkeror built to depend on Firefox instead of Xulrunner.
See the post by eworm here:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54870&comments=all

You can see also that someone else has been having the same problem.
Happily, the comment by rom748 "or you can just modify conkeror.sh
like this ..." makes it depend on Xulrunner again and "s i" works as
expected.

Ruben
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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-08-17 Thread Benjamin Slade 
Just checked, and yes I get the same error under 15. Understand that it's
really Firefox rather than XULRunner per se, since I'm running on an
Ubuntu-based distro. I can't recall if the appearance of the error
coincided with a Firefox upgrade or not, unfortunately.

14 would only start in safe-mode.

On 17 August 2012 14:05, John J. Foerch  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 01:38:11PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> > 17 & 15. I'm guessing they're not supported? (17 stills seems to work
> better
> > than 15. 14 didn't work at all.)
>
> So the error that you reported appears for both 15 and 17?  What do you
> mean by 14 doesn't work at all?  It fails silently?
>
> Did the appearance of this problem coincide with a XULRunner upgrade?
>
> --
> John Foerch
>



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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-08-17 Thread John J. Foerch 
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 01:38:11PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> 17 & 15. I'm guessing they're not supported? (17 stills seems to work better
> than 15. 14 didn't work at all.)

So the error that you reported appears for both 15 and 17?  What do you
mean by 14 doesn't work at all?  It fails silently?

Did the appearance of this problem coincide with a XULRunner upgrade?

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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-08-17 Thread Benjamin Slade 
17 & 15. I'm guessing they're not supported? (17 stills seems to work
better than 15. 14 didn't work at all.)

On 17 August 2012 13:33, John J. Foerch  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 01:20:08PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> > For a while now (a week or so) I've been getting an error message when i
> try to
> > save an image (i-s):
> >
> > The first time I try in a session, I get an error:
> >
> > Console error: [JavaScript Error: "[Exception... "Component returned
> failure
> > code: 0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)
> [nsIXPCComponents_Utils.import]"
> > nsresult: "0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)"  location: "JS frame ::
> > resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm :: XPCU_moduleLambda :: line 222"
>  data:
> > no]" {file: "resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm" line: 222}]
> >
> > The second time I try in a session, I get the error:
> >
> > "call interactively: [Exception ... "'[JavaScript Error:
> "DownloadsCommon is
> > not defined" {file: "resource:///components/DownloadsUI.js line: 11}]'
> when
> > calling method: [nsIDown...
> >(screen cuts off remainder)
> >
> > in the commandline I see the errors:
> >
> > Console error: [JavaScript Error: "DownloadsCommon is not defined" {file:
> > "resource:///components/DownloadsStartup.js" line: 134}]
> >   Category: XPConnect JavaScript
> >
> >  Category: xbl javascript
> > Console error: [JavaScript Warning: "Use of attributes' nodeValue
> attribute is
> > deprecated. Use value instead." {file: "
> http://pluck.nationalgeographic.com/
> > ver1.0/Content/ua/scripts/pluckApps.js" line: 763}]
> >   Category: DOM Core
> > download state change:
> http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/
> > photos/000/580/cache/hippo-pod-africa_58004_990x742.jpg: -1, 5, 3533
> > NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND: Component returned failure code: 0x80520012
> > (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsIXPCComponents_Utils.import]
> > XPCU_moduleLambda()@resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm:222
> > null()@resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm:176
> > null()@null:0
> > null()@resource:///components/DownloadsUI.js:111
> > null()@null:0
> > save_uri()@chrome://conkeror/content/save.js:78
> > null()@chrome://conkeror/content/commands.js:486
> > _do_call()@chrome://conkeror/content/coroutine.js:277
> > null()@chrome://conkeror/content/coroutine.js:408
> > exit_minibuffer()@chrome://conkeror/content/minibuffer-read.js:455
> > null()@chrome://conkeror/content/minibuffer-read.js:459
> > call_interactively()@chrome://conkeror/content/interactive.js:115
> > _do_call()@chrome://conkeror/content/coroutine.js:277
> > co_call()@chrome://conkeror/content/coroutine.js:425
> > input_handle_keypress()@chrome://conkeror/content/input.js:302
> > null()@null:0
>
> What version of XULRunner?
>
> --
> John Foerch
>



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Re: [Conkeror] image downloading

2012-08-17 Thread John J. Foerch 
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 01:20:08PM -0500, Benjamin Slade wrote:
> For a while now (a week or so) I've been getting an error message when i try 
> to
> save an image (i-s):
> 
> The first time I try in a session, I get an error:
> 
> Console error: [JavaScript Error: "[Exception... "Component returned failure
> code: 0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsIXPCComponents_Utils.import]" 
> nsresult: "0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)"  location: "JS frame ::
> resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm :: XPCU_moduleLambda :: line 222"  data:
> no]" {file: "resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm" line: 222}]
> 
> The second time I try in a session, I get the error:
> 
> "call interactively: [Exception ... "'[JavaScript Error: "DownloadsCommon is
> not defined" {file: "resource:///components/DownloadsUI.js line: 11}]' when
> calling method: [nsIDown...
>(screen cuts off remainder)
> 
> in the commandline I see the errors:
> 
> Console error: [JavaScript Error: "DownloadsCommon is not defined" {file:
> "resource:///components/DownloadsStartup.js" line: 134}]
>   Category: XPConnect JavaScript
> 
>  Category: xbl javascript
> Console error: [JavaScript Warning: "Use of attributes' nodeValue attribute is
> deprecated. Use value instead." {file: "http://pluck.nationalgeographic.com/
> ver1.0/Content/ua/scripts/pluckApps.js" line: 763}]
>   Category: DOM Core
> download state change: http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/
> photos/000/580/cache/hippo-pod-africa_58004_990x742.jpg: -1, 5, 3533
> NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND: Component returned failure code: 0x80520012
> (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsIXPCComponents_Utils.import]
> XPCU_moduleLambda()@resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm:222
> null()@resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm:176
> null()@null:0
> null()@resource:///components/DownloadsUI.js:111
> null()@null:0
> save_uri()@chrome://conkeror/content/save.js:78
> null()@chrome://conkeror/content/commands.js:486
> _do_call()@chrome://conkeror/content/coroutine.js:277
> null()@chrome://conkeror/content/coroutine.js:408
> exit_minibuffer()@chrome://conkeror/content/minibuffer-read.js:455
> null()@chrome://conkeror/content/minibuffer-read.js:459
> call_interactively()@chrome://conkeror/content/interactive.js:115
> _do_call()@chrome://conkeror/content/coroutine.js:277
> co_call()@chrome://conkeror/content/coroutine.js:425
> input_handle_keypress()@chrome://conkeror/content/input.js:302
> null()@null:0

What version of XULRunner?

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