Re: Justice Kennedy's Libertarian Revolution

2003-07-16 Thread Tom Grey
I did some research on ante-bellum notions of due process and law of the land some years ago, never published, but the upshot was consistent with what Mark says. The standard modern view captured by Ely's remark about substantive due process being like green pastel redness or whatever is an

Re: Justice Kennedy's Libertarian Revolution

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Justin Lipkin
The processual dimension of the due process clause permits the prohibition of these rights (just not without the appropriate process) as much as their permission. I would think that a "libertarian revolution" would not be satisfied with a conception of liberty that can be easily denied merely by

Re: Justice Kennedy's Libertarian Revolution

2003-07-13 Thread Fisch, William B.
Perhaps I'm missing your point in turn, but I'mhaving troubleseeing the two clauses assharply distinguishable -- even linguistically -- in terms of substance and procedure. There is nothing inherently substantive about "privileges and immunities", which can be procedural as well as

Re: Justice Kennedy's Libertarian Revolution

2003-07-12 Thread Robert Justin Lipkin
In a message dated 7/12/2003 11:12:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No doubt I'm missing something, but doesn't the PI argument still suffer from being limited to "citizens"? I'm not sure how this is relevant to the point I hoped to make about resurrecting the privileges

Re: Justice Kennedy's Libertarian Revolution

2003-07-11 Thread Robert Justin Lipkin
If I understand the idea of "a libertarian revolution" correctly--I have not yet read Randy's article--it applies to emphasizing the liberty associated with the due process clause. Right? What about grounding the revolution in the privileges or immunities? Resurrecting the privileges or