Back to the terms, I wanted to relate an experiment I did with the terms,
because I found something different from what I was told I would find. I'm
not advocating a re-opening of the terms can of worms, but I think the
experiment sheds some light on why we think as we do about the terms, and
on
OK. Thanks for the comments, all, and the clarity on the origins of the
contradb terminology.
Ken
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Hi, Allison!
Spitball suggestion about courtesy turns for your group in particular (not that
I’d do it in a regular beginner workshop). Teach them the courtesy turn hold
as a promenade hold (left in left in front, right in right behind), then do a
super-simple mixer (partners promenade in
I find the words "men" and "women" very hard to hear or distinguish from
many other words. There's no plosive sound in them, and they have soft
vowels. The words doesn't stick out at all for me. I don't know how early
on I gave up trying to get my spouse, who's also a caller, to use words
other
On gentlespoons/ladles, that's the "default" nomenclature set up for
contradb.com--EXPLICITLY BECAUSE it's so ridiculous that it "forces" a user
to change their dialect to the terms being called at their dance series.
(Larks/robins, ladies/gents, a couple other defaults I don't recall off the
I still have great trouble reading dances written with Larks/Ravens – for me
the L means Ladies means the ones on the right. I have to think twice to
understand the notation.
When I am using gendered terms (which many of my groups/customers still prefer)
I would rather use Men than Gents.
There's a strong demonstrable benefit, especially to beginners, for choosing
terms starting with L for left and R for right, while still sticking to the
one-syllable/two-syllable pattern for existing dancer's sake.
(I figured you might be joking, but wanted to clarify for others at least)
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So you're NOT in favor of trying Oaks / Maples, then, right? :D
-Julian
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:08 PM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi Ken,
> The non-gendered dance groups have settled (after MUCH debate and deep
> consideration) on larks and
Agreed with everything Alan said, and also I want to point out that these
are not Chris Page's terms - they are, as best I can tell, placeholder
terms created by the "admonsterators" of ContraDB, designed to be so
ridiculous that you have no choice but to use something else. (If you
create a
Hi Ken,
The non-gendered dance groups have settled (after MUCH debate and deep
consideration) on larks and robins. The gendered folks are attached to gents
and ladies. If you’re going to learn something new, I’d highly recommend the
“avian” labels since those are the settled non-gendered terms.
Hi,
In my opinion it's important that the replacement terms don't resemble
any gendered words. The point of gender-neutral role terms is to break
the association between a role name and a gender.
(Personally, it also grates on me when standard terms contain a joke,
as if we're supposed to be
Hey all,
As I was researching a response to Amy's (Wimmer) Rompin' Stompin'
question, I happened across dances transcribed/written by Chris Page (I
note Chris has slso responded Amy's thread) and renewed acquaintance with
the gentlespoons/ladles terms.
E.g. https://contradb.com/dances/1372
Does
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