[Callers] Re: Gentlespoons/Ladles (from Rompin' Stompin')

2023-02-13 Thread Julian Blechner via Contra Callers
2 items. 1. Jets/Rubies A story I'm unsure how many have heard: Ultimately, what sunk "jets/rubies" wasn't so much "airplane" or "black/red" (ships and planes are traditionally named after women, so, I never got the whole "a jet is masculine" thing, but, I digress). A dance I called in Brooklyn

[Callers] Re: Gentlespoons/Ladles (from Rompin' Stompin')

2023-02-13 Thread Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers
Alan J. Rosenthal suggested: "In my opinion it's important that the replacement terms don't resemble any gendered words" I disagree. The purpose of the replacement words is, in the long run, to leave as few persons as possible (hopefully no one) uncomfortable. Whether they sound like other

[Callers] Re: Gentlespoons/Ladles (from Rompin' Stompin')

2023-02-13 Thread Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers
Unfortunately Jets/Rubies sounds gendered to a lot of people: while "Jet" is a jemstone, it's also an engine, a plane, sports team, and a fictional gang, all more male-ish than female-ish. And "Ruby" is a commonish female name and gemstones are more associated with women than men. There's also a

[Callers] Re: Gentlespoons/Ladles (from Rompin' Stompin')

2023-02-13 Thread Amy Cann via Contra Callers
I LIKE THIS! I hereby nominate "jets and rubies" as the likeliest contender, far outshining my own personal fallback, suns-and-moons. And btw, I'm absolutely seeing "jets" in my mind as black shiny beads, not flying machines. On 2/13/23, Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers wrote: > jets/rubies

[Callers] Re: Gentlespoons/Ladles (from Rompin' Stompin')

2023-02-13 Thread Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers
jets/rubies might be the best solution several reasons: (1) no relation to gender roles, (2) sound like gents and ladies, satisfying those who cognitively have difficulty associating larks and robins with the corresponding roles. (3) easier and faster to say. Jets, unlike larks, has no hard

[Callers] Re: Gentlespoons/Ladles (from Rompin' Stompin')

2023-02-13 Thread Maia McCormick via Contra Callers
Happier days for some, but a lot of us, those "haylcon days" were really not all that. Transgender people and gays and lesbians having to hide who they were, or not able to dance with (let alone marry) their partners for fear of retaliation, or having to go to their own separate dances to feel