LACROIX Pascal wrote:
That RH announce should be a mistake, I realy think it's better if users can
see Mandrake in some stores, not especialy in super market, but in some
computers-stores.
So, only avalable by net and visa : THIS E-STORE IS NOT FOR ME !!!
Mandrakestore accepts paypal,
There is a thread on the club announcement that says that the final iso's will
not be released to club members and contributers until Oct. 15? An that it
will be via bit torrent? Is this true? Why so long? Why bit torrent?
When and where will the contribs be released?
On September 24, 2003
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 22:13, Michael Lothian wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
guess you now can become a member?
(which is, if i'm correct, exactly the point of this idea).
Will consider doing this.
Just to check is there a difference between the normal, silver, gold and
platnum
On Thursday 25 September 2003 02:33, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 19:46, Austin wrote:
If you're smart enough to be on the cooker list, you're probably smart
enough to install it over the network using urpmi anyway, which is
totally allowed. The purpose isn't to punish poor
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 00:29, Austin wrote:
On 09/24/2003 09:32:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
One, Mandrake don't make much money on boxes. They pay people to make the
boxes, they pay to duplicate the CDs, they pay to print the manuals,
they pay for distribution, and they have to sell
Le mer 24/09/2003 à 18:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
On 24 Sep 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
(since i don't have a fast connection, and Mdk don't provide
CDs of club applications, i have no use of it !),
Well, I do not want to deny/judge about your claims. exept for
you are
Le mer 24/09/2003 à 21:24, Levi Ramsey a écrit :
On Wed Sep 24 10:39 +, _ cosmicflo wrote:
Nice !
Who are contributors ?
For exemple, am I a contributor (send bugs report, discuss here) ?
IIRC, the contributors are those who added their names to the proper
page on the Wiki.
Hum,
Ainsi parlait Teletchéa Stéphane :
2 - second i really dislike being held by the company AFTER the job is
done. I hope Mandrake will tell for next release what then plan to do
BEFORE we go on beta and RC. It is not really about what they are doing
now, i perfectly understand the point, but i
Le jeu 25/09/2003 à 11:14, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
Ainsi parlait Teletchéa Stéphane :
2 - second i really dislike being held by the company AFTER the job is
done. I hope Mandrake will tell for next release what then plan to do
BEFORE we go on beta and RC. It is not really about what they
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you've been following cooker from a long time, you should be able to see
mandrakesoft has a very long established tradition of taking decision first,
then eventually explain them thereafter, including to their own emplyees.
Btw, that's how most
On 25 Sep 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
2 - second i really dislike being held by the company AFTER the job is
done. I hope Mandrake will tell for next release what then plan to do
BEFORE we go on beta and RC. It is not really about what they are doing
now, i perfectly understand the point,
Ainsi parlait Guillaume Cottenceau :
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you've been following cooker from a long time, you should be able to
see mandrakesoft has a very long established tradition of taking decision
first, then eventually explain them thereafter, including to
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 00:06, Michael Lothian wrote:
Heh. How long have you worked there? Ever dealt with newspapers? Or new
suppliers? We have this thing called sale or return, man. Big chains
often demand new suppliers only supply them with stuff on a
sale-or-return
Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Ainsi parlait Guillaume Cottenceau :
(even if I have no
experience in other companies yet ;p).
Soon, my dear, soon
Isn't that what one would call 'to give it away'?
So, duhh... good luck on the new work
/m
Ainsi parlait Michael Lothian :
Me used to be a stock controller before I became a checkout bunny ;-)
As the playboy bunnies ? You're walking half-naked in the store to promote
computers ?
--
Never stand when you can sit, never sit when you can lie down, never stay
awake when you can sleep
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:39, _ cosmicflo wrote:
Who are contributors ?
For exemple, am I a contributor (send bugs report, discuss here) ?
My purpose here seems to be frightening Warly. Does that count? (-:
Cheers; Leon
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:29, Adam Williamson wrote:
Or are you just wondering exactly when this will
happen, given the delayed release of the 9.1 ISOs?
Old habits die hard, don't they? (-:
s/9.1/9.2/
Cheers; Leon
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:37, Serge Pluess wrote:
One day one lonely box of
8.2 was sitting at Fry's next to lots and lots of boxes of Redhat 9,
Suse 8.2, and current versions of Lycoris, Lindows, FreeBSD and
NetBSD. Redhat and Suse boxes are usually at the store the day of the
official release.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:02, Rob wrote:
In my experience,
torrents are faster than the fastest mirror once they get going.
*IF* there are thousands of people participating. If not, the mirror
works out faster.
Cheers; LEon
On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:24, Leon Brooks wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:02, Rob wrote:
In my experience,
torrents are faster than the fastest mirror once they get
going.
*IF* there are thousands of people participating. If not, the
mirror works out faster.
And I say again, *in my
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:37, Serge Pluess wrote:
One day one lonely box of
8.2 was sitting at Fry's next to lots and lots of boxes of Redhat 9,
Suse 8.2, and current versions of Lycoris, Lindows, FreeBSD and
NetBSD. Redhat and Suse boxes are usually at the store the day of the
official
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Le Jeudi 25 Septembre 2003 01:49, Greg Meyer a écrit :
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 06:59 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Anyway, Mandrake has sold in stores before, maybe they will again, when
cash is more plentiful. I am confident they are making
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 10:38, Serge Plüss wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:37, Serge Pluess wrote:
One day one lonely box of
8.2 was sitting at Fry's next to lots and lots of boxes of Redhat 9,
Suse 8.2, and current versions of Lycoris, Lindows, FreeBSD and
NetBSD. Redhat and Suse boxes
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 16:19, Leon Brooks wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:29, Adam Williamson wrote:
Or are you just wondering exactly when this will
happen, given the delayed release of the 9.1 ISOs?
Old habits die hard, don't they? (-:
s/9.1/9.2/
D'oh. Where did I put my brown paper
Which means that if no major critical bugs are found in the next few
days, it will be considered as final.
Thanks to all who have participated in 9.21, the mandrake linux
distribution is becoming more and more a community project, and I am
really happy with that.
When we will be sure these ISOs
When is cooker unfreeze ?
What are the ways for Mdk 9.3/10 ?
Thanks
From: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs has been sent
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:32:20 +0200
Which means that if no major critical bugs are found in the next few
Nice !
Who are contributors ?
For exemple, am I a contributor (send bugs report, discuss here) ?
Thanks
From: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs has been sent
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:32:20 +0200
Which means that if no major
Le mer 24/09/2003 à 12:32, Warly a écrit :
Which means that if no major critical bugs are found in the next few
days, it will be considered as final.
Thanks to all who have participated in 9.21, the mandrake linux
distribution is becoming more and more a community project, and I am
really
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 11:53, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
Le mer 24/09/2003 à 12:32, Warly a écrit :
Which means that if no major critical bugs are found in the next few
days, it will be considered as final.
Thanks to all who have participated in 9.21, the mandrake linux
distribution is
Warly wrote:
When we will be sure these ISOs are really final, that is to say by
the end of next week, club members and contributors should have
exclusive access to the download edition ISOs.
For others ISOs will be freely available worldwide by the end of october.
Warly,
But what is your plan
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 13:06, Ron Stodden wrote:
Distributing the tree instead of the ISO takes negligibly more mirror
space and suits everyone, as long as mkcd is included so that CD sets
can be made from the tree for giving to second level testers who lack
suitable internet access.
Adam,
Look at the title of this thread. Subject is 9.2, and this is the
cooker mailing list.
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 13:06, Ron Stodden wrote:
Distributing the tree instead of the ISO takes negligibly more mirror
space and suits everyone, as long as mkcd is included so
Le Mercredi 24 Septembre 2003 12:54, Adam Williamson a écrit :
No, they don't. I think it's intended to encourage people to join the
Club. I wouldn't exactly be surprised if someone were to put up a BT for
the ISOs, though...
Two weeks ago, I had a private discussion with Jacques Le Marois
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 13:21, Ron Stodden wrote:
Adam,
Look at the title of this thread. Subject is 9.2, and this is the
cooker mailing list.
Yeah, but my point is that MDK have always distributed trees of previous
releases to mirrors, so I see no reason why that won't happen with 9.2.
Or
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Warly wrote:
When we will be sure these ISOs are really final, that is to say by
the end of next week, club members and contributors should have
exclusive access to the download edition ISOs.
For others ISOs will be freely available worldwide by the end
Le mer 24/09/2003 à 15:45, Warly a écrit :
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Warly wrote:
When we will be sure these ISOs are really final, that is to say by
the end of next week, club members and contributors should have
exclusive access to the download edition ISOs.
For others
On 09/24/2003 11:37:03 AM, Serge Pluess wrote:
9.0 and 9.1 boxes never hit the shelves here at the main stores such as
Fry's Electronic, CompUSA or BestBuy. One day one lonely box of 8.2 was
sitting at Fry's next to lots and lots of boxes of Redhat 9, Suse 8.2, and
current versions of
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 05:28 AM, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
Le Mercredi 24 Septembre 2003 12:54, Adam Williamson a écrit :
No, they don't. I think it's intended to encourage people to join the
Club. I wouldn't exactly be surprised if someone were to put up a BT
for
the ISOs,
Le mer 24/09/2003 à 18:02, Rob a écrit :
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 11:38, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
Last time, is there a chance one could have an iso without
paying ?
Torrents will be available within a day of it going up on the
club, I can almost guarantee it. I'm a club member
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs has been sent
Which means that if no major critical bugs are found in the next few
days, it will be considered as final.
Thanks to all who have participated in 9.21, the mandrake linux
distribution is becoming more and more
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September 24, 2003 10:43 am, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
Le mer 24/09/2003 à 18:02, Rob a écrit :
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 11:38, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
Last time, is there a chance one could have an iso without
paying ?
Torrents
For others ISOs will be freely available worldwide by the end of october.
Whoa whoa whoa. End of *october*? What's up with that? I can see making
'extra' cds available to club members, maybe with the commercial
software packaged on them, but the core distro a whole month in advance
of public
On Wed Sep 24 10:39 +, _ cosmicflo wrote:
Nice !
Who are contributors ?
For exemple, am I a contributor (send bugs report, discuss here) ?
IIRC, the contributors are those who added their names to the proper
page on the Wiki.
--
Levi Ramsey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL
Le Mercredi 24 Septembre 2003 19:24, Charlie M. a écrit :
I participated in the torrent of RC2 for nearly a week, about 50 KB/sec
upload speed, no download pull since I had already rsynced a set of ISOs
from uninett and just saved copies of them to the btorrent directory I use.
I'm willling to
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Levi Ramsey wrote:
On Wed Sep 24 10:39 +, _ cosmicflo wrote:
Nice !
Who are contributors ?
For exemple, am I a contributor (send bugs report, discuss here) ?
IIRC, the contributors are those who added their names to the proper
page on the Wiki.
I don't
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Rob wrote:
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 11:38, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
Last time, is there a chance one could have an iso without
paying ?
Of course, either you have contributed, or you can wait.
Note, the big issue is to ensure that boxed sets from the store are
On 24 Sep 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
(since i don't have a fast connection, and Mdk don't provide
CDs of club applications, i have no use of it !),
Well, I do not want to deny/judge about your claims. exept for
you are saying here:
- i am no club member because i have no fast
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September 24, 2003 01:27 pm, Blindauer Emmanuel wrote:
I'd just ask that someone let me know when to start it. I may be a
'newbie' and not much good for anything else but I do try to help in any
way I can.
I don't agree. I've partciped in
Austin wrote:
On 09/24/2003 11:37:03 AM, Serge Pluess wrote:
9.0 and 9.1 boxes never hit the shelves here at the main stores such
as Fry's Electronic, CompUSA or BestBuy. One day one lonely box of
8.2 was sitting at Fry's next to lots and lots of boxes of Redhat 9,
Suse 8.2, and current
If you don't want Mandrakesoft to survive, why do you bother running
Mandrake?
I for one don't want MandrakeSoft to become another Microsoft
I think that one of the guides for the next release should be
EVERTHING works. stop dinking about with the splash screens and the
themes and just make it
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Michael Lothian wrote:
| Will consider doing this.
|
| Just to check is there a difference between the normal, silver, gold and
| platnum options (apart from the obvious price differences)
|
| Will probably join as Standard if I decide to being a poor
On 09/24/2003 02:45:55 PM, Mike Eheler wrote:
Whoa whoa whoa. End of *october*? What's up with that? I can see making
'extra' cds available to club members, maybe with the commercial software
packaged on them, but the core distro a whole month in advance of public
release? Totally not cool,
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 14:36, Austin wrote:
pocket. This is the type of revenue that would not be tapped
any other way... he doesn't shop online, he's never heard of
the club, and his linux purchase was not premeditated. I
remind you that Canadians/Americans love to buy things...
Austin wrote:
On 09/24/2003 04:50:40 PM, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
It seems to me the capital investment required to produce and
distribute large international inventories of boxed sets is probably
not within the current means of such a tightly-budgeted,
government-auditted company, working to
On 09/24/2003 05:47:17 PM, Jan Ciger wrote:
I just did so :-) I think, that MDK is worth the 60 Euro I sent them. I
have to agree with you, that the differences are not very well explained
~ - there is just a short note, that Silver and better members will get
some special offers from time to
Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Making boxed sets for the store is one level of capital investment and
risk. The risk is, if you don't sell them, you lose your investment.
As the shareholders newsletter said, selling from the store is higher
margin. The return on a fixed production/distribution
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 16:37, Serge Pluess wrote:
I agree that this is a good approach to encourage people to join, but
for the comment of the boxed-set, that just seems to be more-or-less a
joke.
9.0 and 9.1 boxes never hit the shelves here at the main stores such as
Fry's Electronic,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
guess you now can become a member?
(which is, if i'm correct, exactly the point of this idea).
Will consider doing this.
Just to check is there a difference between the normal, silver, gold and
platnum options (apart from the obvious price differences)
Will probably
If you're smart enough to be on the cooker list, you're probably smart
enough to install it over the network using urpmi anyway, which is
totally allowed. The purpose isn't to punish poor students, but to
encourage lazy/greedy/ apathetic yuppies and their spoiled middle-class
teenagers to
Note, the big issue is to ensure that boxed sets from the store are
delivered sooner compared to the ISO release. If I have to choose
between ISOs or a Prosuite DVD-only 3 weeks later, I will take ISOs, if I
have to decide between ISOs or Prosuite DVD about the same time, I will
take a
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 06:59 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Anyway, Mandrake has sold in stores before, maybe they will again, when
cash is more plentiful. I am confident they are making prudent
decisions, not acting out of ignorance of the market.
Don't forget that RedHat has announced
On Thursday 25 September 2003 01:06, Michael Lothian wrote:
Last time I checked (I work for a big supermarket chain in the UK) Shops
buy things from the people that make them. It's then the shops
responsibility to sell them.
With this kind of stuff there is often a buy back guaranty or
On 09/24/2003 04:02:12 PM, Buchan Milne wrote:
If you don't want Mandrakesoft to survive, why do you bother running
Mandrake?
Amen, brotha.
Austin
On 09/24/2003 04:50:40 PM, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
It seems to me the capital investment required to produce and distribute
large international inventories of boxed sets is probably not within the
current means of such a tightly-budgeted, government-auditted company,
working to get back in the
To contribute, you just have to put your name on a web page?
Are packagers contributors?
Not important, i've run cooker and at work, we have an mandrakeclub
account. Mandrake 9.2 on every student pcs :)
Le mer 24/09/2003 à 21:24, Levi Ramsey a écrit :
On Wed Sep 24 10:39 +, _ cosmicflo
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 22:36, Robert L martin wrote:
If you don't want Mandrakesoft to survive, why do you bother running
Mandrake?
I for one don't want MandrakeSoft to become another Microsoft
I think that one of the guides for the next release should be
EVERTHING works.
Mandrake
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 19:36, Austin wrote:
non-linux-user buys his games and his printer cartridges at Best Buy or Future
Shop. He doesn't have linux, but he's heard that it's cool, and he has a VISA
Gold card in his pocket. This is the type of revenue that would not be tapped
any
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Robert L martin wanted us to know:
I think that one of the guides for the next release should be
EVERTHING works. stop dinking about with the splash screens and the
themes and just make it work. who cares if some ap is the absolute
lastest
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 00:06, Michael Lothian wrote:
Last time I checked (I work for a big supermarket chain in the UK) Shops
buy things from the people that make them. It's then the shops
responsibility to sell them.
Heh. How long have you worked there? Ever dealt with newspapers? Or new
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 19:46, Austin wrote:
If you're smart enough to be on the cooker list, you're probably smart enough
to install it over the network using urpmi anyway, which is totally allowed.
The purpose isn't to punish poor students, but to encourage lazy/greedy/
apathetic
On Thu Sep 25 1:07 +0200, Bellegarde Cedric wrote:
To contribute, you just have to put your name on a web page?
Are packagers contributors?
I was erroneous in confusing cosmicflo's question to be about the
credits/thanks file which will name various contributors to 9.2.
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[EMAIL
On 09/24/2003 09:32:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
One, Mandrake don't make much money on boxes. They pay people to make the
boxes, they pay to duplicate the CDs, they pay to print the manuals,
they pay for distribution, and they have to sell wholesale to the
retailers.
So why bother at all then?
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