Re: [Cooker] [Bug 1649] [drakxtools] localedrake: can't choose Belgium as country when choosing English language

2003-02-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
fhimpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1649
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> --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-02-15 23:30 ---
> I had installed locales-nl. As Dutch is one of the three official languages of
> Belgium (French and German being the other languages), I don't see why I should
> also install locales-fr to be able to choose Belgium...

You chose british english -> locale for that is en_GB (is you
chose american english, that doesn't make any difference).

Then you chose Belgium as a country -> default locale is fr_BE.

Now the program tries to see if en_BE exists. Since it didn't
exist in our list of available locales, it splitted between the
locales for languages (taking the default, en_GB) and for country
(taking the default, fr_BE). So we need to install locales-fr so
that glibc has necessary information about fr_BE locale.

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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 1649] [drakxtools] localedrake: can't choose Belgium as country when choosing English language

2003-02-18 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"Guy.Bormann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > You chose british english -> locale for that is en_GB (is you
> > chose american english, that doesn't make any difference).
> >
> > Then you chose Belgium as a country -> default locale is fr_BE.
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Oh right, and how do you get nl_BE??? Have you actually read
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Easy: choose dutch as a language and belgium as a country. Sounds
logical to me.

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Frederik's message? If you chose Belgium (or any other
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Yes, I pretend to.

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officially multi-lingual country such as Switzerland) you should be
presented with a choice for the official language instead of making one
language the default. If that's impossible or hard to do, so be it but
at least show a message on how to get the other locale.
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N/A. The language selection is made first. The country selection
comes after the language selection is done.

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Don't make assumptions based on common impressions...
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I don't think that's what I'm doing. And FYI I'm not inventing
anything myself, this is implementation from Pablo's advices. If
you think Pablo does i18n following common impressions..

You might want to read my explanation in bug 1597, it might help
you.

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P.S.: This is a new attempt at clarification. I didn't find it useful to
put it in the database. You can add if you want or just resolve it. Sorry,
if I am wrong.
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The database is good because it keeps easy-to-access traces of a
given discussion, it helps other people and is a good web
resource. Please never remove the CC to the bugzilla bug.


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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 1649] [drakxtools] localedrake: can't choose Belgium as country when choosing English language

2003-02-18 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Frederik Himpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 17:28, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > "Guy.Bormann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > > You chose british english -> locale for that is en_GB (is you
> > > > chose american english, that doesn't make any difference).
> > > >
> > > > Then you chose Belgium as a country -> default locale is fr_BE.
> > -=-=--
> > Oh right, and how do you get nl_BE??? Have you actually read
> > -=-=--
> > 
> > Easy: choose dutch as a language and belgium as a country. Sounds
> > logical to me.
> 
> OK. Still one request though. During installation, I chose English
> language, ánd chose Dutch as an additional language. Then I chose
> Belgium as a country. Would it be possible that in case the
> language/country combination does not exist, combinations with
> additional languages are checked? In my case it would have chosen nl_BE
> then, because I had chosen Belgium, and I had installed Dutch as an
> additional language.

Well, it would not be so easy to do, from the source-code point
of view..

Functionally, it should not cause any problem to you to have
fr_BE as the locale for the country-related stuff, does it?

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