Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia should provide kernel == 2.4

2003-09-10 Thread Olivier Blin
> > kernel-multimedia does provide kernel, but it isn't versionned :
> > $ urpmf --provides kernel-multimedia
> > [..]
> > kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.1mm.6mdk:kernel
> > [..]
> Yes I know, my bad. And since I am still trying to get 2.4.22 patched
> I didn't update (also the versioning should be changed a bit to be 
> consistant with thomas' kernels: 1mm.6mdk should become 6mm.1mdk)

It would be great to have a working 2.4.22 mm kernel, but could you
upload a fixed version of 2.4.21 ?
I'll use --nodeps in the meantime, but that's not a good solution.

> > Thanks Austin to provide the only kernel that doesn't mess sound
> > with snd-intel8x0 driver.
> Actually, I packaged it, and I think it snd-intel8x0 will break if I 
> update ALSA, which was a request from Austin (because jackd not liking
> older alsa).

Oups, I'm so sorry, I am of course
grateful towards both you and Austin :)

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia should provide kernel == 2.4

2003-09-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:28, Olivier Blin wrote:

> Thanks Austin to provide the only kernel that doesn't mess sound with
> snd-intel8x0 driver.

Just curious - are you referring to the same problem I've been
discussing with Thierry, some kind of malfunctioning 3D algorithm that's
dropping out bits of the sound etc? It's so annoying now that I've dug
out an old soundcard and installed that in my box instead...
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia should provide kernel == 2.4

2003-09-10 Thread danny
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Olivier Blin wrote:

> kernel-multimedia does provide kernel, but it isn't versionned :
> $ urpmf --provides kernel-multimedia
> [..]
> kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.1mm.6mdk:kernel
> [..]
Yes I know, my bad. And since I am still trying to get 2.4.22 patched I 
didn't update (also the versioning should be changed a bit to be 
consistant with thomas' kernels: 1mm.6mdk should become 6mm.1mdk)

 > 
> Thanks Austin to provide the only kernel that doesn't mess sound with
> snd-intel8x0 driver.
Actually, I packaged it, and I think it snd-intel8x0 will break if I 
update ALSA, which was a request from Austin (because jackd not liking 
older alsa).

d.

 > 
> 




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-23 Thread Oden Eriksson
söndagen den 23 mars 2003 20.37 skrev Austin:
> On 2003.03.23 15:00 Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > I wonder if the kernel-multimedia, jackit, ardour, etc. are based on this
> > "HOWTO" or does it go far beyond?
>
> What do you need to know that isn't in:
> http://groundstate.ca/mdkaw.html
> ?
>
> I'll try to help if I can.

Thanks Austin.

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-23 Thread Austin
On 2003.03.23 15:00 Oden Eriksson wrote:
I wonder if the kernel-multimedia, jackit, ardour, etc. are based on this
"HOWTO" or does it go far beyond?
What do you need to know that isn't in:
http://groundstate.ca/mdkaw.html
?
I'll try to help if I can.

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread Danny Tholen
On Friday 07 March 2003 18:21, Jan Ciger wrote:

> I originally thought that my bash is acting up, because on 'ls' I have got
>  tar: *.spec: Not found in archive :-)))
>
well, I am looking at 14mdk now, but there is really no such file in the 
rpm...

d.




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread Jan Ciger
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> is it really? No idea. will check.
> but is sounds like an rpm quirck.

I originally thought that my bash is acting up, because on 'ls' I have got
 tar: *.spec: Not found in archive :-)))

> whats in the file?

it is empty (zero length)

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread danny
> Why is this file in the src RPM ? 
> 
> "tar: *.spec: Not found in archive"
> 
> (without the double quotes) - it is in the SPEC directory :-))

is it really? No idea. will check.
but is sounds like an rpm quirck.

whats in the file?

d.





Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread danny
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Jan Ciger wrote:

> 
> I does :-( At least with linux-2.4.21-0.12mdk source. Should be reported to 
> mandrake hackers. Should I file a bug for that or will you bug them directly?
you can, perhaps (if time) I will take a look and fix it. It doesn't seem 
difficult. (I bet you could fix it to).

> What are the changes (except of the configuration omission, that I fixed 
> myself) ? I do not like to recompile kernels several times a day (-;
well, updated to latest main kernel+ fix the config issue.


d.





Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread Jan Ciger
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Hi, 

Why is this file in the src RPM ? 

"tar: *.spec: Not found in archive"

(without the double quotes) - it is in the SPEC directory :-))

Jan
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread Jan Ciger
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> you can, perhaps (if time) I will take a look and fix it. It doesn't seem
> difficult. (I bet you could fix it to).

Sure, but it is fixed already, as Chmouel noted. Just not released yet. 

> well, updated to latest main kernel+ fix the config issue.

OK, I will try, when it gets to my mirror. So far 13mdk runs fine with no 
hiccups here, even with highmem on. (dual 2.2GHz Xeon, with 1GB RAM and 
Quadro 4 900 XGL with nVidia drivers and Twinview enabled). 

Jan

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread danny
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Jan Ciger wrote:

> I downloaded the source rpm, it is still disabled there. Please, put a new 
> .config in there as well. 
I know, try 14mdk.

> 
> Moreover, the menuconfig is broken too : 
I did not touch menuconfig me thinks, can you test with main kernel if 
same problem occurs?

> I will enable SMP and highmem (the 4GB option) and test it. 
be sure to try 14mdk.

d.





Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Jan Ciger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> > Moreover, the menuconfig is broken too :
>>>
>>> I did not touch menuconfig me thinks, can you test with main kernel if
>>> same problem occurs?
>>
>> I does :-( At least with linux-2.4.21-0.12mdk source. Should be reported to 
>> mandrake hackers. Should I file a bug for that or will you bug them directly?
>
> well no need fill another bug i take care of it.

actually nplanel already fixed it got wait until he sent to juan.




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread Jan Ciger
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> > Moreover, the menuconfig is broken too :
>
> I did not touch menuconfig me thinks, can you test with main kernel if
> same problem occurs?

I does :-( At least with linux-2.4.21-0.12mdk source. Should be reported to 
mandrake hackers. Should I file a bug for that or will you bug them directly?

> > I will enable SMP and highmem (the 4GB option) and test it.
>
> be sure to try 14mdk.

What are the changes (except of the configuration omission, that I fixed 
myself) ? I do not like to recompile kernels several times a day (-;

I will try it, it is not on the servers yet, though. 

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Jan Ciger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> > Moreover, the menuconfig is broken too :
>>
>> I did not touch menuconfig me thinks, can you test with main kernel if
>> same problem occurs?
>
> I does :-( At least with linux-2.4.21-0.12mdk source. Should be reported to 
> mandrake hackers. Should I file a bug for that or will you bug them directly?

well no need fill another bug i take care of it.




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-07 Thread Jan Ciger
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Hi, 

I downloaded the source rpm, it is still disabled there. Please, put a new 
.config in there as well. 

Moreover, the menuconfig is broken too : 

- -
Preparing scripts: functions, 
parsing..scripts/Menuconfig:
 
./MCmenu71: line 54: syntax error near unexpected token `fi'
scripts/Menuconfig: ./MCmenu71: line 54: `fi'
..done.


Menuconfig has encountered a possible error in one of the kernel's
configuration files and is unable to continue.  Here is the error
report:

 Q> scripts/Menuconfig: line 832: MCmenu71: command not found

Please report this to the maintainer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  You may also
send a problem report to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

Please indicate the kernel version you are trying to configure and
which menu you were trying to enter when this error occurred.

make: *** [menuconfig] Error 1
- -

I have got this, when I entered the part related to ALSA (under Sound). It is 
not possible to configure anything related to ALSA with menuconfig, but 
xconfig seems to work fine :-(

I will enable SMP and highmem (the 4GB option) and test it. 

Jan


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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Danny Tholen
oopssounds like I screwed up.
will check if the patch went in...
...patch went in.
checking if it was enabled...
ooops
CONFIG_CAP_SETPCAP is not set.

waaa..it is even worse, also preempt and lowlat seem disabled.
(so much for doing things in a hurry).
will rebuild asap (possibly with juans 12mdk)

d.


On Thursday 06 March 2003 19:00, Austin wrote:
> > On 2003.03.06 12:20 Elliott Martin wrote:
> >> I'm getting the same thing with 13mdk...
> >>
> >> $ jackstart
> >> jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities
> >> are:
> >>=ep cap_setpcap-ep
> >> probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
> >> a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
>
> I tired my previous jackit-realtime, and I get the same error, so it
> must be a kernel problem.  Two nights ago I guess I was still using
> -12mdk.
>
> Danny... any ideas?
> Austin




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Austin
On 2003.03.06 13:08 Buchan Milne wrote:
I haven't tried the multimedia kernel myself, but AFAIK the
capabilities
would be disabled by default, you have to enable them via sysctl?
Hmmm.  Danny never mentioned that.  In fact, running mm-smp-13mdk I 
don't see any references to latency, pre-empability, or capabilities in 
/proc/sys/kernel.

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Austin
On 2003.03.06 13:00 Austin wrote:
I tired my previous jackit-realtime, and I get the same error, so it 
must be a kernel problem.  Two nights ago I guess I was still using 
-12mdk.
Yes, in fact I still have it running on my other machine, so I can test 
it tonight.
Austin

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Austin
On 2003.03.06 12:20 Elliott Martin wrote:
I'm getting the same thing with 13mdk...

$ jackstart
jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities 
are:
   =ep cap_setpcap-ep
probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
I tired my previous jackit-realtime, and I get the same error, so it 
must be a kernel problem.  Two nights ago I guess I was still using 
-12mdk.

Danny... any ideas?
Austin
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Buchan Milne
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Elliott Martin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting the same thing with 13mdk...
>
> $ jackstart
> jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
>=ep cap_setpcap-ep
> probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
> a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
>
> I have recompiled the kernel source ensuring that the preemptible
kernel and
> low latency schduling were enabled and I still get the same thing.
>

I haven't tried the multimedia kernel myself, but AFAIK the capabilities
would be disabled by default, you have to enable them via sysctl?

Buchan


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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Austin
On 2003.03.06 12:20 Elliott Martin wrote:
I'm getting the same thing with 13mdk...

$ jackstart
jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
   =ep cap_setpcap-ep
probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
Erg.  You're right.  Same here with mm-smp.
(Many many appologies to Quel!)
That's odd, cuz I was using it two nights ago just fine.  I recently 
altered jackit-realtime and Danny recently updated the kernel, so I'm 
not sure what's at fault.  I'll try to figure it out.

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Elliott Martin
Hi,

I'm getting the same thing with 13mdk...

$ jackstart
jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
   =ep cap_setpcap-ep
probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"

I have recompiled the kernel source ensuring that the preemptible kernel and 
low latency schduling were enabled and I still get the same thing.

I hope this helps,

-Elliott

On Thursday 06 March 2003 7:19 am, Austin wrote:
> Sorry to offend.  Seemed like the logical explanation.  Acham's Razor.
> (Is that how to spell his name?)
>
> That's odd though, becuase jackstart works fine for me.  But I'm using
> the mm-smp kernel.
>
> Can anyone else please try to run jackstart as a regular user with the
> mm kernel?
> Thanks,
> Austin
>
> On 2003.03.05 23:18 Quel Qun wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:22, Austin wrote:
> > > 90% chance you're not running the mm kernel.
> > > uname -a?
> > > Austin
> > >
> > > On 2003.03.05 20:35 Quel Qun wrote:
> > > > get
> > > > this message when I try to use jackstart:
> > > >
> > > > jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities
> >
> > are:
> > > >=ep cap_setpcap-ep
> > > > probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
> > > > a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
> > > >
> > > > Does not look good, does it? Am I missing anything?
> >
> > 90%! I feel a bit offended :) There would have been a 10% chance I
> > booted the wrong kernel if I had not checked before sending this
> > message.
> > uname -r was enough for me: 2.4.21-0.13mm-mdk
> > Since I have to rebuild the NVidia drivers, I pretty much know when I
> > boot a new kernel...
> > --
> > Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 15:19, Austin wrote:
> Sorry to offend.  Seemed like the logical explanation.  Acham's Razor.  
> (Is that how to spell his name?)

Occam.
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-06 Thread Austin
Sorry to offend.  Seemed like the logical explanation.  Acham's Razor.  
(Is that how to spell his name?)

That's odd though, becuase jackstart works fine for me.  But I'm using 
the mm-smp kernel.

Can anyone else please try to run jackstart as a regular user with the 
mm kernel?
Thanks,
Austin

On 2003.03.05 23:18 Quel Qun wrote:
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:22, Austin wrote:
> 90% chance you're not running the mm kernel.
> uname -a?
> Austin
>
> On 2003.03.05 20:35 Quel Qun wrote:
> > get
> > this message when I try to use jackstart:
> >
> > jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities
are:
> >=ep cap_setpcap-ep
> > probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
> > a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
> >
> > Does not look good, does it? Am I missing anything?
90%! I feel a bit offended :) There would have been a 10% chance I
booted the wrong kernel if I had not checked before sending this
message.
uname -r was enough for me: 2.4.21-0.13mm-mdk
Since I have to rebuild the NVidia drivers, I pretty much know when I
boot a new kernel...
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Re: [Cooker] Kernel multimedia?

2003-03-06 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, obennett wrote:

> Where the heck is that package on the cds. Is it a package, a search for 
> "kernel" in rpmdrake doesn't turn it up.

Why would it be on CDs? It's on contribs and we can only support kernels 
we build.




Re: [Cooker] Kernel multimedia?

2003-03-05 Thread jokerman64
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 10:53 pm, Vox wrote:
> This time obennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> becomes daring and writes:
> > Where the heck is that package on the cds. Is it a package, a search for
> > "kernel" in rpmdrake doesn't turn it up.
>
>   It's not in the CDs, it's on contrib.
>
>   Vox
That would explain it. 
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-05 Thread Quel Qun
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:22, Austin wrote:
> 90% chance you're not running the mm kernel.
> uname -a?
> Austin
> 
> On 2003.03.05 20:35 Quel Qun wrote:
> > get
> > this message when I try to use jackstart:
> > 
> > jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
> >=ep cap_setpcap-ep
> > probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
> > a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
> > 
> > Does not look good, does it? Am I missing anything?

90%! I feel a bit offended :) There would have been a 10% chance I
booted the wrong kernel if I had not checked before sending this
message.
uname -r was enough for me: 2.4.21-0.13mm-mdk
Since I have to rebuild the NVidia drivers, I pretty much know when I
boot a new kernel...
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Re: [Cooker] Kernel multimedia?

2003-03-05 Thread Vox

This time obennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> Where the heck is that package on the cds. Is it a package, a search for 
> "kernel" in rpmdrake doesn't turn it up.

  It's not in the CDs, it's on contrib.

  Vox

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-05 Thread Austin
90% chance you're not running the mm kernel.
uname -a?
Austin
On 2003.03.05 20:35 Quel Qun wrote:
get
this message when I try to use jackstart:
jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
   =ep cap_setpcap-ep
probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
Does not look good, does it? Am I missing anything?
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-05 Thread Quel Qun
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 13:52, Danny Tholen wrote:
> If all goes well, this should be on mirrors soon.
> - It will fix module building
> - drakfont+ntfs hangs (untested)
> - low snd-emu10k1 pcm stream size causing sound artifacts
> 
> I did not include highmem for smp (sorry): if you have a workstation with more 
> than 900 MB, you can build it from kernel-multimedia-source;)
> 
> Bugs, critisism and latency timings welcome.
> 
Thanks first, then a question: Are real-time caps really enabled? I get
this message when I try to use jackstart:

jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
   =ep cap_setpcap-ep
probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"

Does not look good, does it? Am I missing anything?
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia 13mdk

2003-03-05 Thread Jan Ciger
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Hi, 

OK, I will give it a spin :-)

Jan

On Tuesday 04 March 2003 22:52, Danny Tholen wrote:
> If all goes well, this should be on mirrors soon.
> - It will fix module building
> - drakfont+ntfs hangs (untested)
> - low snd-emu10k1 pcm stream size causing sound artifacts
>
> I did not include highmem for smp (sorry): if you have a workstation with
> more than 900 MB, you can build it from kernel-multimedia-source;)
>
> Bugs, critisism and latency timings welcome.
>
> d.
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Austin Acton
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 15:33, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> Tested with urpmi on 3 systems and kernel-multimedia is Required only if
> jackit-realtime is installed/selected.

Cool.  Good to know.
Thanks, Charles.

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:25:50 +0100
Danny Tholen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But then, for an extra kernel, this might be not so important?

Austin's change of the jackit/jackit-realtime pkgs appears to have
solved the problem.

Tested with urpmi on 3 systems and kernel-multimedia is Required only if
jackit-realtime is installed/selected.


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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Austin
I lied.  Jackd's location/name is set at compile time and incorporated 
into the binary.  So renaming would be no big deal.
I guess I'll do that.
I don't want my rpm to be replacing jackit automatically.

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Austin
On 2003.03.03 11:01 Buchan Milne wrote:
How about renaming the binaries, so that they won't conflict? Would
that
work? That was the approach I took with samba3 (but I left a provides
in
 there by mistake).
Not really.
The package only contains jackd and jackstart.  Jackd is the real 
daemon, and jackstart is a BINARY which runs jackd with privileges.  
Without hacking up the code, I don't think jackstart would work if 
jackd had a different name.
If jackstart was a script, it would be very easy.
I'll look at the code though.

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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Austin wrote:
>
> On 2003.03.03 07:06 Buchan Milne wrote:
>
>> Do you have jackit installed (in which case it could be Austin's
>> Provides/Obsoletes: jackit and Requires: kernel-multimedia)?
>
>
> Oh crap.  I hope not.
> I wanted to make jackit-realime conflict with jackit, but provide
> jackit.  RPM won't install something like that.  So I made it obsolete
> jackit and provide jackit.  That works fine, but I didn't realize
> --auto-select would automatically replace jackit with jackit-realtime.
> Is that the case?

I think so ... but I am not sure (and I have a similar problem with
samba3 ;-)).

> If so I'll have to think of another solution.

How about renaming the binaries, so that they won't conflict? Would that
work? That was the approach I took with samba3 (but I left a provides in
 there by mistake).

Regards,
Buchan


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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Austin
On 2003.03.03 07:06 Buchan Milne wrote:
Do you have jackit installed (in which case it could be Austin's
Provides/Obsoletes: jackit and Requires: kernel-multimedia)?
Oh crap.  I hope not.
I wanted to make jackit-realime conflict with jackit, but provide 
jackit.  RPM won't install something like that.  So I made it obsolete 
jackit and provide jackit.  That works fine, but I didn't realize 
--auto-select would automatically replace jackit with jackit-realtime.
Is that the case?
If so I'll have to think of another solution.

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Danny Tholen

On Monday 03 March 2003 15:21, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> Would it not work as
> kernel-2.4.21.0.11mdk-multimedia-prempt-1-#mdk
if we do that, it is not possible to keep old kernel when installing new one.
(ie 2mdk will replace 1mdk). That was the whole point of this silly 1-1mdk 
naming scheme.

But then, for an extra kernel, this might be not so important?

d.




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:27:01 +0100
Danny Tholen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For instance, in this 12mdk there is a problem when you want to
> compile 3rd party modules (like nvidia). This is a bit better in
> (unreleased) 13mdk. But apparently I should name it differently. I
> just do not know how.


Would it not work as
kernel-2.4.21.0.11mdk-multimedia-prempt-1-#mdk


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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Danny Tholen
On Monday 03 March 2003 14:23, Marcel Pol wrote:
> If it's based on kernel-blah-0.11mdk, call yours
> kernel-blah-multimedia-preempt-0.11mdk, that should be clear enough, right?
yes it is clear. But not possible. I need to be able to make several updates 
per 'juan-version' 11.  So I need a way to increase the version number.

For instance, in this 12mdk there is a problem when you want to compile 3rd 
party modules (like nvidia). This is a bit better in (unreleased) 13mdk. But 
apparently I should name it differently. I just do not know how.

d.




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Marcel Pol
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:14:10 +0100
Danny Tholen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 03 March 2003 12:23, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> > kernel-multimedia-preempt-2.4.21.0.12mdk-1-1mdk
> >
> > Why is this 0.12mdk rather than 0.11mdk as is current kernel?
> > With it set as 0.12mdk, unless it is added to skip list, --auto-select
> > requires that a kernel-multimedia be installed.
> >
> I wondered whether this would be a problem. But sometimes i do need to fix 
> bugs, so I need to increase the version number? Unless I complex the 
> versioning even more by going 2.4.21.0.0.12mdk.
> 
> I was planning to upload a 13mdk soon, but I'll wait. What would be the
> proper solution?

Just use the same versioning? The name change "mulimedia" should make the
distinction clear enough.
It is based on the main 0.11mdk, not on 0.12mdk. Now it looks like it is based
on 0.12mdk.
Also changing it to 0.11.1mdk will make it look like a security update, when
there's a kernel update for 9.1's 0.11mdk
If it's based on kernel-blah-0.11mdk, call yours
kernel-blah-multimedia-preempt-0.11mdk, that should be clear enough, right?


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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Danny Tholen
On Monday 03 March 2003 12:23, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> kernel-multimedia-preempt-2.4.21.0.12mdk-1-1mdk
>
> Why is this 0.12mdk rather than 0.11mdk as is current kernel?
> With it set as 0.12mdk, unless it is added to skip list, --auto-select
> requires that a kernel-multimedia be installed.
>
>
> Charles
I wondered whether this would be a problem. But sometimes i do need to fix 
bugs, so I need to increase the version number? Unless I complex the 
versioning even more by going 2.4.21.0.0.12mdk.

I was planning to upload a 13mdk soon, but I'll wait. What would be the proper 
solution?

d.




Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:06:12 +0200
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> 
> Where (did it make it in)? I only see kernel-multimedia-source.

sunsite
 
> 
> Danny merged with 0.11mdk, and then made some additional changes (ie
> he had a 0.11mdk at one stage ..)
> 
> > With it set as 0.12mdk, unless it is added to skip list,
> > --auto-select requires that a kernel-multimedia be installed.

Even adding to skip list does not prevent the requirement.

I looked at the spec (had to dl the src.rpm to get it)
Other than the 12 I could see nothing that would cause urpmi to think it
Had to be installed.


> Do you have jackit installed (in which case it could be Austin's
> Provides/Obsoletes: jackit and Requires: kernel-multimedia)?

I have jackit installed on 2 systems and on both jackit-realtime was
added to skip.list and Not installed.
On a 3rd system Without jackit installed --auto-select still requires 1
of the multi kernels be installed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] charles]# urpmq kernel
kernel-secure-2.4.21.0.11mdk|kernel-enterprise-2.4.21.0.11mdk|kernel-2.
4.21.0.11mdk|kernel-smp-2.4.21.0.11mdk 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] charles]# urpmq kernel-multimedia
kernel-multimedia-preemptsmp-2.4.21.0.12mdk|kernel-multimedia-preempt-2
.4.21.0.12mdk

[EMAIL PROTECTED] charles]# rpm -qa |grep kernel 
kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.11mdk
kernel-2.4.21.0.11mdk-1-1mdk
kernel-source-2.4.21-0.11mdk
fortune-kernelcookies-7.0-2mdk 
kernel-multimedia-preempt-2.4.21.0.12mdk-1-1mdk

[EMAIL PROTECTED] charles]# rpm -q --whatrequires kernel-multimedia
no package requires kernel-multimedia



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Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia

2003-03-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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Charles A Edwards wrote:
> kernel-multimedia-preempt-2.4.21.0.12mdk-1-1mdk

Where (did it make it in)? I only see kernel-multimedia-source.

> Why is this 0.12mdk rather than 0.11mdk as is current kernel?

Danny merged with 0.11mdk, and then made some additional changes (ie he
had a 0.11mdk at one stage ..)

> With it set as 0.12mdk, unless it is added to skip list, --auto-select
> requires that a kernel-multimedia be installed.

$ urpmq -p kernel
?

$ urpmq kernel-multimedia
?

I don't know if Danny left the Provides: kernel out, and there was no
changelog for it and
http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/contrib-SPECS/kernel-multimedia

does not exist.

Do you have jackit installed (in which case it could be Austin's
Provides/Obsoletes: jackit and Requires: kernel-multimedia)?

Since I see no kernel-multimedia on the mirrors (thus probably not in
the hdlists), I suspect it may be jackit-realtime ...

Regards,
Buchan

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