Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-14 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 19:52, Steve Fox wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 12:21, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
 
  If 1.2.x is stable, I can't wait to install it, just for the new mail
  notification. I want it to notify me when I have new mail, but only if
  it's filtered in my important-inbox folder.
 
 I've had excellent luck with it. Just make sure you're running an all
 Cooker system, which all good Mandrakesoft'ers do, right? :)

 NOT on production boxes I don't :) :)

I do but i do also rollerblading on the Rond Point of the
Champs-Elysée or have been driving motorcycle while drunk :p.





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-13 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
Le mer 12/02/2003 à 23:52, Steve Fox a écrit :
  If 1.2.x is stable, I can't wait to install it, just for the new mail
  notification. I want it to notify me when I have new mail, but only if
  it's filtered in my important-inbox folder.
 I've had excellent luck with it. Just make sure you're running an all
 Cooker system, which all good Mandrakesoft'ers do, right? :)

Actually, I have a bastard Sony Vaio laptop, which I use mostly for
checking my mail and presentations, and it runs 9.0. I can't afford to
run Cooker on it, since every change in pcmcia, XFree, sound programs,
etc, is likely to break my config.

Of course, my other systems run purely Cooker =)

Jean-Michel





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 19:52, Steve Fox wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 12:21, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
 
  If 1.2.x is stable, I can't wait to install it, just for the new mail
  notification. I want it to notify me when I have new mail, but only if
  it's filtered in my important-inbox folder.
 
 I've had excellent luck with it. Just make sure you're running an all
 Cooker system, which all good Mandrakesoft'ers do, right? :)

NOT on production boxes I don't :) :)





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 07:24 am, Austin Acton wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 07:07, John Allen wrote:
  On Wednesday 12 February 2003 11:28, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
   David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't seem to have those in Mandrake :o(
  
   we do have man sex
 
  And it would be nice if it were removed. I have children using Mandrake
  and would be apalled it they view the sex man page.

 $man sex
 is not half as bad as the spam I get every twenty minutes or so...
 or as graphic...
 Austin
If like me you have found no other email on the planet that can handle over 
100,000 email's accept for kmail( I really cant say enough good things about 
it) and like me you get all this garbage in your email. I simply turn off 
loading pictures from the net. I still allow html email however it just does 
not load all those pictures. I'm very greatfull for this and it was 
implemented in kmail before they started sending porn email like that. 

By the way there is one other program but it is under windows called the bat. 
Outlook and Outlook express barf at about 10,000 email's. Evolution doe not 
do well with a large amount of email either. As we speak my Mail directory 
takes up 1.1 gig of space. Did I say how great kmail is.

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Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107
http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
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Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
Le mer 12/02/2003 à 11:36, Brook Humphrey a écrit :
 If like me you have found no other email on the planet that can handle over 
 100,000 email's accept for kmail( I really cant say enough good things about 
 By the way there is one other program but it is under windows called the bat. 
 Outlook and Outlook express barf at about 10,000 email's. Evolution doe not 
 do well with a large amount of email either. As we speak my Mail directory 
 takes up 1.1 gig of space. Did I say how great kmail is.

Running Evolution 1.0.8 here, many mailing lists, all split into about
200 subfolders. Even then some folders, like php-bugs, have over 30,000
messages. I have *lots* of filters, and I get only 1 or 2 unfiltered
SPAM per day.

[jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ du -s evolution/
1.4Gevolution
[jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MHz
cpu MHz : 745.254
[jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal
MemTotal:   255436 kB

Jean-Michel





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 07:01 am, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
 Le mer 12/02/2003 à 11:36, Brook Humphrey a écrit :
  If like me you have found no other email on the planet that can handle
  over 100,000 email's accept for kmail( I really cant say enough good
  things about By the way there is one other program but it is under
  windows called the bat. Outlook and Outlook express barf at about 10,000
  email's. Evolution doe not do well with a large amount of email either.
  As we speak my Mail directory takes up 1.1 gig of space. Did I say how
  great kmail is.

 Running Evolution 1.0.8 here, many mailing lists, all split into about
 200 subfolders. Even then some folders, like php-bugs, have over 30,000
 messages. I have *lots* of filters, and I get only 1 or 2 unfiltered
 SPAM per day.

 [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ du -s evolution/
 1.4Gevolution
 [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MHz
 cpu MHz : 745.254
 [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal
 MemTotal:   255436 kB

 Jean-Michel

Wow they fixed it since the last time I used it but then you are probably the 
only other person on the face of the planet with as much email. We are the 
email elite. I still wont use evolution though. Thanks for letting me know 
that it works better now though.

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  Brook Humphrey   
Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107
http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 Holiness unto the Lord
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Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Austin Acton
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 11:15, Brook Humphrey wrote:
 Wow they fixed it since the last time I used it but then you are probably the 
 only other person on the face of the planet with as much email. We are the 
 email elite. I still wont use evolution though. Thanks for letting me know 
 that it works better now though.

I get in the range of 600 emails a day.
Evolution never flinches.  Mind you, I don't keep them all.
Wish they'd make a GTK2 port though.
Austin

-- 
Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc.
 Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant
   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
 MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com)
 homepage: www.groundstate.ca





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 17:15, Brook Humphrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 07:01 am, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
  Le mer 12/02/2003 à 11:36, Brook Humphrey a écrit :
   If like me you have found no other email on the planet that can handle
   over 100,000 email's accept for kmail( I really cant say enough good
   things about By the way there is one other program but it is under
   windows called the bat. Outlook and Outlook express barf at about
   10,000 email's.

Wow my OE crashed at 3500. Eudora bailed out at 7000.

   Evolution doe not do well with a large amount of email
   either. As we speak my Mail directory takes up 1.1 gig of space. Did I
   say how great kmail is.
 
  Running Evolution 1.0.8 here, many mailing lists, all split into about
  200 subfolders. Even then some folders, like php-bugs, have over 30,000
  messages. I have *lots* of filters, and I get only 1 or 2 unfiltered
  SPAM per day.
 
  [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ du -s evolution/
  1.4Gevolution
  [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MHz
  cpu MHz : 745.254
  [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal
  MemTotal:   255436 kB
 
  Jean-Michel

 Wow they fixed it since the last time I used it but then you are probably
 the only other person on the face of the planet with as much email. We are
 the email elite. I still wont use evolution though. Thanks for letting me
 know that it works better now though.

*g* no I guess there are more people. I have around 50.000 and kmail handles 
it very good. And ermmm I would not call it elite, I would call it messy ;) 
since I don't like throw emails away, there could be something in it I need 
after throwing it away :D And I found out now how to handle mailinglists 
correct in kmail (how to get a list-reply with the L Key ;))

-- 
Regards
Steffen

counter.li.org : #296567.
machine: 181800
vdr-box : 87

Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails 
will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks




Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Vox

This time Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
becomes daring and writes:

 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 17:15, Brook Humphrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 07:01 am, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
  Le mer 12/02/2003 à 11:36, Brook Humphrey a écrit :
   If like me you have found no other email on the planet that can handle
   over 100,000 email's accept for kmail( I really cant say enough good
   things about By the way there is one other program but it is under
   windows called the bat. Outlook and Outlook express barf at about
   10,000 email's.

 Wow my OE crashed at 3500. Eudora bailed out at 7000.

  They increased Eudora's resistance in the last 6 years...it used to
  bail at a bit over 5k emails :)


   Evolution doe not do well with a large amount of email
   either. As we speak my Mail directory takes up 1.1 gig of space. Did I
   say how great kmail is.
 
  Running Evolution 1.0.8 here, many mailing lists, all split into about
  200 subfolders. Even then some folders, like php-bugs, have over 30,000
  messages. I have *lots* of filters, and I get only 1 or 2 unfiltered
  SPAM per day.
 
  [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ du -s evolution/
  1.4Gevolution
  [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MHz
  cpu MHz : 745.254
  [jmdault@JMLAP jmdault]$ cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal
  MemTotal:   255436 kB
 
  Jean-Michel

 Wow they fixed it since the last time I used it but then you are probably
 the only other person on the face of the planet with as much email. We are
 the email elite. I still wont use evolution though. Thanks for letting me
 know that it works better now though.

 *g* no I guess there are more people. I have around 50.000 and kmail handles 
 it very good. And ermmm I would not call it elite, I would call it messy ;) 
 since I don't like throw emails away, there could be something in it I need 
 after throwing it away :D And I found out now how to handle mailinglists 
 correct in kmail (how to get a list-reply with the L Key ;))

  I use gnus, and backup-to-CD-and-delete my mail when it hits around
  100,000 total mails (uhm...every 3 or 4 months, I think...Lisp slows
  down the world at around that number :) I have backups of bitnet
  logs and emails from 1988 in CDs here somewhere ;)

  Vox, the info-packrat 

-- 
Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs.  Kind
of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_
technology than everyone else.   -- Donald B. Marti Jr.



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Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Steve Fox
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 09:01, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:

 Running Evolution 1.0.8 here, many mailing lists, all split into about
 200 subfolders. Even then some folders, like php-bugs, have over 30,000
 messages. I have *lots* of filters, and I get only 1 or 2 unfiltered
 SPAM per day.

1.2.x will greatly improve the speed of POP3 downloading, better IMAP
handling, and it even *greatly* reduced the amount of disk space (the
indexes weren't being cleaned up before). 

I highly recommend an upgrade :) 

The only thing that sux0rs is getting used to the new key bindings: . or
] for next unread, , or [ for previous unread, rather than n and p which
I am used to. Oh, an hide/show message pane moved from q to `. I guess
you get used to it after a week or two.

-- 

Steve Fox
http://k-lug.org




Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 16:29, Austin Acton wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 11:15, Brook Humphrey wrote:
  Wow they fixed it since the last time I used it but then you are probably the 
  only other person on the face of the planet with as much email. We are the 
  email elite. I still wont use evolution though. Thanks for letting me know 
  that it works better now though.
 
 I get in the range of 600 emails a day.
 Evolution never flinches.  Mind you, I don't keep them all.
 Wish they'd make a GTK2 port though.

It's in CVS (it's v1.3.x, actually). It's quite unstable ATM, though.
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
Le mer 12/02/2003 à 15:03, Steve Fox a écrit :
  Running Evolution 1.0.8 here, many mailing lists, all split into about
 1.2.x will greatly improve the speed of POP3 downloading, better IMAP
 handling, and it even *greatly* reduced the amount of disk space (the
 indexes weren't being cleaned up before). 
 I highly recommend an upgrade :) 

Is it stable now? Last time I checked, 1.2.0 would segfault all the time
=(

If 1.2.x is stable, I can't wait to install it, just for the new mail
notification. I want it to notify me when I have new mail, but only if
it's filtered in my important-inbox folder.

Jean-Michel





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread James Sparenberg
Ditto here... 1.2 evolution is working through about 600+ mails a day
here as well.  Question though, I take it that they got rid of the
memory leak in k-mail?

On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 08:29, Austin Acton wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 11:15, Brook Humphrey wrote:
  Wow they fixed it since the last time I used it but then you are probably the 
  only other person on the face of the planet with as much email. We are the 
  email elite. I still wont use evolution though. Thanks for letting me know 
  that it works better now though.
 
 I get in the range of 600 emails a day.
 Evolution never flinches.  Mind you, I don't keep them all.
 Wish they'd make a GTK2 port though.
 Austin





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 18:21, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
 Le mer 12/02/2003 à 15:03, Steve Fox a écrit :
   Running Evolution 1.0.8 here, many mailing lists, all split into about
  1.2.x will greatly improve the speed of POP3 downloading, better IMAP
  handling, and it even *greatly* reduced the amount of disk space (the
  indexes weren't being cleaned up before). 
  I highly recommend an upgrade :) 
 
 Is it stable now? Last time I checked, 1.2.0 would segfault all the time
 =(
 
 If 1.2.x is stable, I can't wait to install it, just for the new mail
 notification. I want it to notify me when I have new mail, but only if
 it's filtered in my important-inbox folder.

It's never crashed for me, even 1.2.0. 1.2.0 leaked memory like crazy,
but this has been fixed. Definitely worth trying again.
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 08:29, Austin Acton wrote:
 I get in the range of 600 emails a day.
 Evolution never flinches.  Mind you, I don't keep them all.
 Wish they'd make a GTK2 port though.

They've just started releasing alpha snapshots for RedHat 8 for the GTK2
port.  I compile it from CVS, so I'm actually using it right now on
Cooker (Evolution 1.3.0.99).  It will be released (at some unknown date)
as Evolution 1.4.

TTFN,
Lonnie Borntreger






Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 11:24 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Ditto here... 1.2 evolution is working through about 600+ mails a day
 here as well.  Question though, I take it that they got rid of the
 memory leak in k-mail?

HM memory leak? I'm not aware of any accept maybe some of the rc's before 3.1. 
I'm not sure here either though as I've been using the rc's almost since 9.0 
came out. At any rate I have no problem with kmail. 

As for me I get 450+ mails a day. It has been more however I had to cut back 
on a few lists that were producing 100-150 mails a day by them selves.


 On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 08:29, Austin Acton wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 11:15, Brook Humphrey wrote:
   Wow they fixed it since the last time I used it but then you are
   probably the only other person on the face of the planet with as much
   email. We are the email elite. I still wont use evolution though.
   Thanks for letting me know that it works better now though.
 
  I get in the range of 600 emails a day.
  Evolution never flinches.  Mind you, I don't keep them all.
  Wish they'd make a GTK2 port though.
  Austin

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  Brook Humphrey   
Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107
http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 Holiness unto the Lord
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Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Steve Fox
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 12:21, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:

 If 1.2.x is stable, I can't wait to install it, just for the new mail
 notification. I want it to notify me when I have new mail, but only if
 it's filtered in my important-inbox folder.

I've had excellent luck with it. Just make sure you're running an all
Cooker system, which all good Mandrakesoft'ers do, right? :)

-- 

Steve Fox
http://k-lug.org




Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore and the benefits of kmail

2003-02-12 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 9:52 pm, Steve Fox wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 12:21, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
  If 1.2.x is stable, I can't wait to install it, just for the new mail
  notification. I want it to notify me when I have new mail, but only if
  it's filtered in my important-inbox folder.

 I've had excellent luck with it. Just make sure you're running an all
 Cooker system, which all good Mandrakesoft'ers do, right? :)
Actually, I run all-cooker on 2 systems, but my laptop runs 9.0 kernel and 
everything else all-cooker.  Reason is, cooker kernels seem to have broken 
the built-in 3c556B ethernet card on my Thinkpad A20m.  Since it works, I 
havent bothered to kludge around it with the acpi=off option (which would 
probably work since the 9.0 kernel seems to not use acpi)

-- 
Chuck Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]