Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-02-03 Thread Warly
Shift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been 
> replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager.
> Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in 
> this fucking DM that I hate ?
> Do you want to be worst than RedHat who patch KDE ? Everybody has said that 
> RedHat had a bad attitude and they had lost lot's of users. You are making 
> the same but your changes are MUCH MORE VISIBLE and the Linux web sites will 
> not take much time to make a bad review of the NEW FUCKINg feature
>
> I just want to upgrade my MandrakeClub level to help you but if you continue 
> in this direction I won't and I will just let MandrakeSoft die.
>
> So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !!

What a very smart way to lead  kde team to answer you.

-- 
Warly




Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 19:44, Jason Straight wrote:
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> On Friday 31 January 2003 08:37 pm, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> > KDM "branding" can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a
> > Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake "star" logo.
> > No change needs to be made to KDM itself.
> >
> > However, a login screen will not make me change distros, but it may
> > cause me to change login managers - but that is why I like Linux, if I
> > don't like some design decision, I can always make a change myself.
> 
> Except you lose functinality by using another dm, when you logout of
> kde you can't chose to shutdown or reboot immediately, which isn't
> really a big deal, but a nice one.

Agreed.  It would not be "best", but at least there are ways to avoid
the "worst". ;-)


TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger






Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 19:54, Shift wrote:
> Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:37, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit :
> > KDM "branding" can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a
> > Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake "star" logo.
> > No change needs to be made to KDM itself.
> 
> Restart your X server you will see that it is not just a start and a 
> background but a entirally new DM.
> I am not against that but PLEASE, DON'T MODIFY KDM and MAKE A SEPARATE PACKAGE 
> (drakdm ?)

I wasn't arguing that the new KDM was good, I was saying they could have
gotten "branding" without patching KDM - as an argument against the
other poster that said this was just about "branding".

But, I won't see the new login manager, since I saw other posts about
it, and stayed on kdebase-3.1-5mdk (the new kdm is in 6mdk).


> Modifying a big part of another project is not a patch but a FORK.
> It is very bad and it is against  free software philosophy (IMHO)

Agreed.

> > However, a login screen will not make me change distros, but it may
> > cause me to change login managers - but that is why I like Linux, if I
> > don't like some design decision, I can always make a change myself.
> 
> I want too change DM too but they had REPLACE kdm with this HORRIBLE DM with 
> Mandrake stars everywhere :((

So use GDM.  You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that
also.

I do agree that it should at least be a new binary in kdebase instead of
a change to the existing KDM - or an entirely new package.


TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger






Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 19:27, Wesley J Landaker wrote:
> On Friday 31 January 2003 6:13 pm, Shift wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has
> > been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager.
> 
> I don't agree with the animosity--brand KDM away all you want--but I do 
> agree that the two-stage login thing is *quite* annoying. This should 
> at least be an option.

KDM "branding" can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a
Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake "star" logo. 
No change needs to be made to KDM itself.

However, a login screen will not make me change distros, but it may
cause me to change login managers - but that is why I like Linux, if I
don't like some design decision, I can always make a change myself.

TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger






Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Laurent Culioli
Le jeu 30/01/2003 à 02:29, orville a écrit :
> I digress. After reading laurent's post I decided to log off and see what all 
> the hubbub is about. THAT is definitely not KDE's new login manager. SHIT 
> that thing is ugly. Mandrake please, change it back.

http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/kdebase/

see the 4 big patch  kdebase-3.1-new-kdm*


-- 
Laurent Culioli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pschit





Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Laurent Culioli
Le sam 01/02/2003 à 02:13, Shift a écrit :
> Hi all,

hi shift

> I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been 
> replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager.
> Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in 
> this fucking DM that I hate ?

Im totaly agree with you , the mdklogin manager is ugly and
anti-ergonomic , IMHO its a very bad idea using two step to login.

i hope this is only an alpha release :/

-- 
Laurent Culioli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pschit