Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread Timothy R. Butler
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> I agree, KFireSaver3D should definitely be included :-)

  That'd be nice, you did a spectacular job with that screensaver. You should 
try to get it directly into kdeartwork on kde.org...

  -Tim

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Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread Timothy R. Butler
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On Thursday 06 March 2003 06:12 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> I've been off cooker for a few weeks now but it seems now we're onto
> this bug voting thingy. How ridiculous. Bugs should be squashed as and

  I'm somewhat underwhelmed by bug "voting" as well, although I guess it does 
help to determine which bugs "bug" the most users.

  -Tim

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Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread Jason Greenwood




I've been off cooker for a few weeks now but it seems now we're onto this
bug voting thingy. How ridiculous. Bugs should be squashed as and when possible,
not voted on. Bugzilla is such a nightmare to use that I will continue to
do what I have always done...write to the cooker list with my bug reports
and supply fix information if I have it. If Mandrake choose to do something
about them great, if not, well I guess we will see how long they survive.
I have been on the cooker list for a LONG time in total and done more than
my fair share of beta/cooker testing and I do not like the way the system
is heading, trying to distill down bug reporting and overulling direct interaction
with the developers. This just bogs people down with the hassles of the newly
implemented infrastructure. Development has to be EASY on the testers, otherwise
they won't participate. I have participated very little in the discussions
about 9.1 (though I have been keeping up with all the cooker updates) beacuse
of the futility I've felt recently about communicating with Mandrake. I'm
sure I am not alone in my sentiments.

Regards,

Jason Greenwood

PS, I "voted" for your bug, whatever that means, even though once I ticked
the box it was not abundantly clear what to click next!! So I just hit "enter"
and that seemed to do it. Allotted a certain number of votes...hmph, then
I will just post my other bugs to the list then...screwit.

Timothy R. Butler wrote:

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I was stupefied by its exclusion in 9.0 =(

Kde artwork is PART of KDE, my vote is leave it in

  
  
  Keep in mind, that right now it still isn't in. :-( If you could drop by the 
Bugzilla page I mentioned and vote for the bug, you'll be helping to 
eliminate this unfortunate problem.
  
  Thanks,
   Tim

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Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread David Sansome
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 11:24 pm, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
>   Indeed. All of the KDE screensavers are just 1.5 megs. Additional ones
> like the fireworks one you mention could be had plus perhaps even the ever
> popular Hicolor icons and you'd still be under 5 megs.

I agree, KFireSaver3D should definitely be included :-)

David Sansome



Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread Timothy R. Butler
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> I was stupefied by its exclusion in 9.0 =(
>
> Kde artwork is PART of KDE, my vote is leave it in

  Keep in mind, that right now it still isn't in. :-( If you could drop by the 
Bugzilla page I mentioned and vote for the bug, you'll be helping to 
eliminate this unfortunate problem.
  
  Thanks,
   Tim

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Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Friday 07 March 2003 07:24 am, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> If you or anyone else would like to help out, would you
> please vote on my bug about this:

>   http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1859

Done.

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread Jason Greenwood




I was stupefied by its exclusion in 9.0 =(

Kde artwork is PART of KDE, my vote is leave it in

Cheers

Jason

Timothy R. Butler wrote:

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Suggestion: split kdemoreartwork into kdemoreartwork-basic and
kdemoreartwork-extras or -advanced, put maybe 2-5MB of extra screensavers
etc into -basic so that the vanilla KDE has something besides a boring
slideshow and Tux in his spaceship.

  
  
  Yup. That's just... sad. 

  
  
I'd recommend a couple of the 3D screensavers, too, like the
fireworks-over-the-city one.

  
  
  Indeed. All of the KDE screensavers are just 1.5 megs. Additional ones like 
the fireworks one you mention could be had plus perhaps even the ever popular 
Hicolor icons and you'd still be under 5 megs. 

  
  
This should mean enough screensavers to give people the idea, but much less
than 12MB in the RPM. As 9.0 shipped, it is too stark.

  
  
  Thanks Leon. :-) If you or anyone else would like to help out, would you 
please vote on my bug about this:

  http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1859
  
  (You'll notice I mention the idea of splitting the package)

  Thanks,
   Tim

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Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread Timothy R. Butler
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> Suggestion: split kdemoreartwork into kdemoreartwork-basic and
> kdemoreartwork-extras or -advanced, put maybe 2-5MB of extra screensavers
> etc into -basic so that the vanilla KDE has something besides a boring
> slideshow and Tux in his spaceship.

  Yup. That's just... sad. 

> I'd recommend a couple of the 3D screensavers, too, like the
> fireworks-over-the-city one.

  Indeed. All of the KDE screensavers are just 1.5 megs. Additional ones like 
the fireworks one you mention could be had plus perhaps even the ever popular 
Hicolor icons and you'd still be under 5 megs. 

> This should mean enough screensavers to give people the idea, but much less
> than 12MB in the RPM. As 9.0 shipped, it is too stark.

  Thanks Leon. :-) If you or anyone else would like to help out, would you 
please vote on my bug about this:

  http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1859
  
  (You'll notice I mention the idea of splitting the package)

  Thanks,
   Tim

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Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)

2003-03-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 06 March 2003 10:53 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
>> Bug #1859: For some unexplainable reason MandrakeSoft is not
>> providing users with KDE screensavers beyond its basic one. Why?
>> Why didn't anyone ask Club users? (most probably didn't vote for
>> KDE-Artwork since you weren't suppose to need to vote for basic
>> packages, and it seems pretty basic!)

> Not confirmed, and 12MB of junk is a lot of wasted space, we can fit a
> lot of really important things in that space.

Suggestion: split kdemoreartwork into kdemoreartwork-basic and 
kdemoreartwork-extras or -advanced, put maybe 2-5MB of extra screensavers etc 
into -basic so that the vanilla KDE has something besides a boring slideshow 
and Tux in his spaceship.

I'd recommend a couple of the 3D screensavers, too, like the 
fireworks-over-the-city one.

This should mean enough screensavers to give people the idea, but much less 
than 12MB in the RPM. As 9.0 shipped, it is too stark.

Cheers; Leon