Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes
> > People on this list are assumed to be competent enough to be able to > download an SRPM and rebuild it, getting a kernel-source package to do it. > Could not have said it better myself. Go to the nVidia site; they will tell you straight out that they have a limited supply of stock Linux drivers; if you don't see what you need, or aren't certain that it is there, get the source and rebuild it to match your running kernel. If you are running a Cooker kernel, a kernel.org kernel, or countless others, you are SOL unless you know how to rebuild. I think they cover stock Red Hat, stock Mandrake 9.0, and maybe stock Suse. Forget anything else. It's Console City for you, most likely, if you take your chances with the wrong one. The only times I've had trouble with my nVidia cards is when I forgot to rebuild the drivers when upgrading my kernel. Rebuild in console mode, install, reboot, all is fine with the world. Lesson learned. It's like living around the Great Lakes in the U.S. You can take your chances and not put snow tires on your car when winter approaches, but don't cry when you can't get out of your driveway. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Brutal? Yes. Honest? You'd better believe it. Don't like it? Buy an iMac. J -- What the gods would destroy they first submit to an IEEE standards committee.
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes
On 9 Feb 2003, Preston Cody wrote: > I'm sorry, i forgot to mention i'm using mdk 9.1beta3. I know official > rpms will be out when 9.1 comes out, but perhaps mandrake could add a > script to download and compile the modules, Why should Mandrakesoft, a company that support free software (such as releaseing all their software under the GPL) spend developer time to support a hardware company that does not release free drivers??? > and automatically edit the > XF86Config file? That would simplify things, even if there are rpms > available. > # XFdrake WHY DOES NO-ONE EVER TEST THIS? WHY DOES EVERYONE ASSUME THE MANDRAKE TOOLS DON'T KNOW ABOUT NVIDIA DRIVERS. THERE IS NO NEED TO EDIT THE CONFIG FILE TO GET THE DRIVERS TO WORK (that's what the modprobe NVdriver is all about in 9.0 ...) > > > What furthers my problem is that I had to download and compile a > > > separate kernel in order for the nvidia drivers to want to compile. > > > > Somehow I doubt that. > > > > # urpmi kernel-source > > Doesn't work. The only kernels i could get from rpms in 9.1beta3 are > smp kernels. So, get it from cooker. People on this list are assumed to be competent enough to be able to download an SRPM and rebuild it, getting a kernel-source package to do it. > > 1)choose another list for your next post > > > > 2)Get your card running: > > # urpmi lynx > > # lynx -source http://ranger.dnsalias.com/nvidia_me|sh > > That's a nice script.. something like that would be good in the control > center. like a "Got Nvidia?" button per say. Sorry, but I only do this to support Mandrakesoft, not freeloaders. The script is mainly there to help people get NVidia kernel modules for updated kernels. I don't have time to test and maintain binaries for cooker kernels when I don't necessarily run a cooker kernel on my cooker box (win4lin ...). Buy a pack next time, or join the Club. buying a pack will mean you need to do absolutely nothing to get the NVidia drivers working. Joining the club will mean 'urpmi.addmedia ...; urpmi NVIDIA_kernel NVIDIA_GLX'. Regards, Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes
I'm sorry, i forgot to mention i'm using mdk 9.1beta3. I know official rpms will be out when 9.1 comes out, but perhaps mandrake could add a script to download and compile the modules, and automatically edit the XF86Config file? That would simplify things, even if there are rpms available. > > What furthers my problem is that I had to download and compile a > > separate kernel in order for the nvidia drivers to want to compile. > > Somehow I doubt that. > > # urpmi kernel-source Doesn't work. The only kernels i could get from rpms in 9.1beta3 are smp kernels. > > This of course messes up a lot of mandrake's features such as supermount > > and various modules. > > > > This is enough of a pain to drive off even a veteran linux user. I do > > not know how you guys should go about remedying this, because I know > > your stance on closed-source drivers. Anybody have some ideas? > > > > If you're running a stable release: > > 1)choose another list for your next post > > 2)Get your card running: > # urpmi lynx > # lynx -source http://ranger.dnsalias.com/nvidia_me|sh That's a nice script.. something like that would be good in the control center. like a "Got Nvidia?" button per say. -- Preston Cody V.P. PSU Linux Users Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM: ppcodeman
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes (possibly cured)
On Sunday 09 February 2003 05:30 am, Preston Cody wrote: > My Problem: I have an Nvidia TNT2, so I need to get the nvidia drivers > from their website, compile them, and manually edit my XF86Config-4 > file. The average user shouldn't have to do this. They have RPMs which work flawlessly out of the box on Mandrake 9.0, and also (I'm happy to report) 2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk rebuilt (took all day but, even on an Athlon 1800) on Mandrake 9.0 with release 4191. I grab the .src.rpm files and do a rebuild on them. If you want working, binary RPMs for 9.0, ask and ye shall receive by email. They're running this box, which has been dead stable. The 2.4.21pre4 kernel is running my sister-in-law's box, which has not had long enough to tell yet but has been good so far. My wife's box uses a GeForce2 card on another motherboard, and that loses everything but the mouse cursor about once a week, oftener if the card isn't kept clean, so I'm blaming that on hardware until I can replace the card. I can also send you a 2.4.21pre4 kernel binary and/or source with rebuilt binary RPMs for that (things like IDE CD burners work better), but... *** DANGER WILL ROBINSON *** ...if you install 2.4.20 or beyond, you cannot revert. It tinkers with ext3 filesystems, and the vanilla 9.0 kernel refuses to mount the results. I had to borrow my camera as a usb-storage device to shuffle more pieces across when doing so broke the NVidia ethernet driver (works with my RPMs under 2.4.21pre4). > What furthers my problem is that I had to download and compile a > separate kernel in order for the nvidia drivers to want to compile. Not so in my case. Want those RPMs? Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes
On Saturday February 8 2003 03:30 pm, Preston Cody wrote: > Hi. > I've been switching distros for a long time now, and I really like > the mandrake look. > > My Problem: I have an Nvidia TNT2, so I need to get the nvidia > drivers from their website, compile them, and manually edit my > XF86Config-4 file. The average user shouldn't have to do this. http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=427&lang=en -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 16:30, Preston Cody wrote: > My Problem: I have an Nvidia TNT2, so I need to get the nvidia drivers > from their website, compile them, and manually edit my XF86Config-4 > file. The average user shouldn't have to do this. True. Mandrake does offer them on the club and on the PowerPack disc, I believe. > What furthers my problem is that I had to download and compile a > separate kernel in order for the nvidia drivers to want to compile. > This of course messes up a lot of mandrake's features such as supermount > and various modules. You should just --rebuild the source rpms from the NVIDIA site. Takes all of two minutes. (You'll need to have kernel-source installed). Austin -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes
Preston Cody wrote: > Hi. > I've been switching distros for a long time now, and I really like the > mandrake look. > > My Problem: I have an Nvidia TNT2, so I need to get the nvidia drivers > from their website, compile them, and manually edit my XF86Config-4 > file. The average user shouldn't have to do this. You're assuming the average user downloads. If you want the convenience of proprietary drivers, buy a CD set. Only the average leech needs to edit the XF86Config-4 and compile from source (if I sound abrubt, read http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake). > > What furthers my problem is that I had to download and compile a > separate kernel in order for the nvidia drivers to want to compile. Somehow I doubt that. # urpmi kernel-source > This of course messes up a lot of mandrake's features such as supermount > and various modules. > > This is enough of a pain to drive off even a veteran linux user. I do > not know how you guys should go about remedying this, because I know > your stance on closed-source drivers. Anybody have some ideas? > If you're running a stable release: 1)choose another list for your next post 2)Get your card running: # urpmi lynx # lynx -source http://ranger.dnsalias.com/nvidia_me|sh When prompted, reselct the video card. They're not the latest, but they are guaranteed to work (8.2 and 9.0 are supported, except for the updated kernel which will be soon ...) Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 February 2003 03:30 pm, Preston Cody wrote: > Hi. > I've been switching distros for a long time now, and I really like the > mandrake look. > > My Problem: I have an Nvidia TNT2, so I need to get the nvidia drivers > from their website, compile them, and manually edit my XF86Config-4 > file. The average user shouldn't have to do this. > > What furthers my problem is that I had to download and compile a > separate kernel in order for the nvidia drivers to want to compile. > This of course messes up a lot of mandrake's features such as supermount > and various modules. > > This is enough of a pain to drive off even a veteran linux user. I do > not know how you guys should go about remedying this, because I know > your stance on closed-source drivers. Anybody have some ideas? I use the NVIDIA drivers on 2 different computers with the Mandrake kernels. THe source RPM files have and should always compile fine. and at least for mandrake 9.0 they have a package for the mandrake kernel on the websight. how did you go about compiling the modules ? - -- http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+RXk9sKWd3vub6wURAl7fAJ4/+pynRd9fr3H1N+GRoV5oQYP5dQCdGA24 ojlzYl8PMpc5/kljSr/EbxM= =skD7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: [Cooker] nvidia woes & the philips webcam (was: beta 4 install notes)
> I've done all that over and over... NVDriver is loaded before X > starts and /proc/nv/card/0 shows my card & it's details - but after X starts > everything goes blank and freezes (hence the log's don't seem to get flushed > to disk). Posting in the nvidia forums seem to indicate that it could be a > devfs problem, but I don't buy that (since I've had them working on devfs > box's b4) I'm guessing that it's permissions somewhere like /dev but that's > only a guess and don't really have enough time to start digging around > Do you start X from command line or boot into level 5? By default /dev/nv* are accessible to logged-on user only if you are logged in under X. I always considered it a bug ... could you please try to change in /etc/security/console.perms 0600 0600 root into 0600 0600 root and tell if it works? You'll need to relogin at least or better to reboot :-) -andrej
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes & the philips webcam (was: beta 4 install notes)
well, it turns out the card wasn't pushed in all the way - why it would work with the nv driver and not nvidia's is beyond me though...
Re: [Cooker] nvidia woes & the philips webcam (was: beta 4 install notes)
On Wednesday 06 March 2002 7:26 pm, you wrote: > On Wednesday 06 March 2002 13:20, you wrote: > > anyone read this? > > ofcourse, but a lot of things get reported double (hint:) heh - and you're the second person to reply to this :) I rarely post to the cooker list since most people have usually covered the problem... I just thought since I was prob one of the early ones to get hold of the beta 4 iso's i might try posting to lend a hand. > And since there is a lot of traffic, some posts get ignored. and even more so when you post after everyone else has gone home/to bed ;-) I don't really mind tbh, it would just be nice to have someone occasion say thanks or fixed :) (but I realise at the moment people are a little busy for things like that ;) I know some people on the list have been having problems with the philips webcam drivers as well, hence I was interested with a follow up :) > > Maybe it helps if you post 1 subject per email. I did think that after I posted, and it's a fair point - the subject line could have probably been more constructive as well ;) I post just as much as to get tips from other cooker users though (for instance, someone else was good enough to reply after an earlier problem I've had with dma on my tyan mboard) - yes, the forums may be a more appropriate place for such discussion, but since it's problems that occured when upgrading with cooker, the cooker list seemed better > I will comment on a few things. > > > > drakconf looks like it's shaping up well, but clicking on add/remove > > > software for rpmdrake spits out an error and drakconf dies > > known, more people reported it. I noticed ta - someone mailed me back with the quick fix to get it going again > > > > I'm also having problems installing the nvidia drivers... I know it's > > > nothing to do the mandrake, but I doubt I'm the only one with an nvidia > > > card ;) > > Other people (me) have it working fine:) heh - god damn you ;-) > > > > I've tried installing from src.rpm (with --rebuild) & tar-balls - each > > > time it says the installation went fine, but after editing XF86Config-4 > > > and restarting X, my machine appears to hang (there's some HD activity, > > > but X won't restart and I can't get to a console) Has anyone else had > > > any luck? The drivers that ship are ok but they've got timing issues > > > with my monitor whilst the nvidia drivers have always been great > > This is way to little to go on. Is the NVDriver module loaded succesfully > before you boot X? What is your XF86Config-4? Are you using agp? What is in > /proc/nv/card/0? What is in syslog and XFree.0.log? By the time you did all > this you probably know what is wrong and will not have to post the > problem:) I've done all that over and over... NVDriver is loaded before X starts and /proc/nv/card/0 shows my card & it's details - but after X starts everything goes blank and freezes (hence the log's don't seem to get flushed to disk). Posting in the nvidia forums seem to indicate that it could be a devfs problem, but I don't buy that (since I've had them working on devfs box's b4) I'm guessing that it's permissions somewhere like /dev but that's only a guess and don't really have enough time to start digging around It's not really a fair test though since I'm trying to install them on a machine that's been through most of the beta installs - I'm going to format and try from scratch with beta 4. Sadly my machine tends to compilcate things by using smp, so I thought I'd post to see if I could get any helpful comments from other smp mdk cooker users that may have had the same problem & figured out how to avoid a re-install :)
