Re: [COOT] RSR of tRNA with nascent chain

2021-07-29 Thread Paul Emsley
On Tue, 2021-07-27 at 15:20 +0100, Helge Paternoga wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I have what feels like a trivial question about modelling in coot, but 
> unfortunately I have not managed to solve it
> myself.
> 
> I would like to create a bond between a P-tRNA and nascent chain and then 
> subsequently use RSR in Coot for modelling.
> 
> What I gathered so far is that I should use acedrg to create the restraints 
> of the linked unit (in my case "A" to
> "VAL"). Therefore, I first followed the tutorial in the Coot development blog 
> which worked well.
> 
> But when I try to do the "real world" example with my model, acedrg crashes 
> (and I could not find a useful error
> message).
> 
> What I could figure out is that it has something to do with the 
> RNA-nucleotide being referred to as "A", because
> linking an imported "AMP" molecule to valine as well as my whole nascent 
> chain works as it should.
> 
> Therefore, I wanted to ask if you could briefly tell me what is the correct 
> way to achieve this type of linkage in
> Coot?
> 
> Many thanks for reading and best wishes,
> 
> Helge
> 
> 
> P. S. I have modified Oli Clarke's trimmings to automatically load the 
> "Restraints" menu with
> "add_module_restraints()", but this is only partially working as the menu is 
> not showing all entries upon starting
> coot. I have to still manually load "Calculate -> Modules -> Restraints" to 
> get the rest of the entries to show. Is
> there something I could do to have the full menu from the get go? 
> 
> 


Hello Helge,

It is not a trivial question.

I suggest that you use CCP4i2 interface for now - it is more featureful than 
the Coot interface.

You can see Rob demoing the interface here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4oTJ0bjD3M

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/iucr/doi/10.1107/S2059798321001753

But IIRC, your problem is more tricky yet, because one of the chains is 
"backwards" relative to the other. I don't think
that I ever solved that.

As for auto-loading the module, this is what I have in my 
~/.coot-preferences/modules.scm

   (if (defined? 'coot-main-menubar)
  (begin
 (add-module-prosmart)
 (add-module-restraints)
 (add-module-cryo-em)))


Paul.



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[COOT] RSR of tRNA with nascent chain

2021-07-27 Thread Helge Paternoga
Dear all,

I have what feels like a trivial question about modelling in coot, but 
unfortunately I have not managed to solve it myself.

I would like to create a bond between a P-tRNA and nascent chain and then 
subsequently use RSR in Coot for modelling.

What I gathered so far is that I should use acedrg to create the restraints of 
the linked unit (in my case "A" to "VAL"). Therefore, I first followed the 
tutorial in the Coot development blog which worked well.

But when I try to do the "real world" example with my model, acedrg crashes 
(and I could not find a useful error message).

What I could figure out is that it has something to do with the RNA-nucleotide 
being referred to as "A", because linking an imported "AMP" molecule to valine 
as well as my whole nascent chain works as it should.

Therefore, I wanted to ask if you could briefly tell me what is the correct way 
to achieve this type of linkage in Coot?

Many thanks for reading and best wishes,

Helge


P. S. I have modified Oli Clarke's trimmings to automatically load the 
"Restraints" menu with "add_module_restraints()", but this is only partially 
working as the menu is not showing all entries upon starting coot. I have to 
still manually load "Calculate -> Modules -> Restraints" to get the rest of the 
entries to show. Is there something I could do to have the full menu from the 
get go?



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