Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-10-01 Thread Piotr Król
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/21/2017 04:52 PM, Kyösti Mälkki wrote: Hi Kyösti, > > I can help you to get these to EARLY_CBMEM_INIT. That's the first > obstacle with Geode. It's recommended that coreboot would store > the timebase / TSC information so that cpufreq

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-09-21 Thread Kyösti Mälkki
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:16 AM, David Hendricks wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Piotr Król wrote: >> >> 2. Is cbmem required ? (Geode LX do not have support for cpufreq - >> cbmem complains) > I can help you to get these to

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-09-21 Thread David Hendricks
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Piotr Król wrote: > 2. Is cbmem required ? (Geode LX do not have support for cpufreq - > cbmem complains) > Yes, though hopefully we can patch cbmem to deal with this. I am only guessing but it seems it will fail in arch_tick_frequency()?

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-09-21 Thread David Hendricks
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:41 PM, David Hendricks wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Renze Nicolai wrote: > >> Another thing: I don't understand the workflow for putting my >> boardstatus on the wiki yet. Could someone explain to me how I can

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-09-10 Thread Piotr Król
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/24/2017 04:31 AM, Kyösti Mälkki wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 12:29 AM, taii...@gmx.com > wrote: Hi Kyösti, (...) > > Now, this applies to everyone: please push status updates for the > boards you have access to,

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-25 Thread David Hendricks
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Renze Nicolai wrote: > Another thing: I don't understand the workflow for putting my > boardstatus on the wiki yet. Could someone explain to me how I can > publish on the wiki that my board works with a certain version of > Coreboot? Also: how

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-24 Thread Renze Nicolai
Hello everyone, A year ago I ported coreboot to the motherboard (MSI MS7721) that I use in my main PC. In my opinion removing support for boards that are actively used by people in this community would be a setback for the project as a whole. While I currently don't have the time and knowledge

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Kyösti Mälkki
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:00 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Just because a board lacks active developers doesn't mean that no one is > using it. > As a layman I simply can't understand as to how all these seemingly > insignificant improvements such as CBMEM in ramstage make it

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Aaron Durbin via coreboot
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Kyösti Mälkki wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 12:29 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> Ah I see thanks for explaining. >> >> I had read all the AGESA boards were going to be removed, besides the asus >> D8/D16 those are the

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Kyösti Mälkki
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 12:29 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Ah I see thanks for explaining. > > I had read all the AGESA boards were going to be removed, besides the asus > D8/D16 those are the last and best owner controlled x86 boards. > Is there a current list of boards to be

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread David Hendricks
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Jonathan Neuschäfer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:44:30PM +, ron minnich wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:31 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > > > > Ah I see thanks for explaining. > > > > > > I had read all the

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Jonathan Neuschäfer wrote: > > I would like to have a list of all boards ever supported, along > > with the last coreboot revision where they can be found. > > There is such a page in the wiki[2]. It's probably incomplete. It > doesn't list commits, either. > > We could migrate it into git,

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Jonathan Neuschäfer
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:44:30PM +, ron minnich wrote: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:31 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > > Ah I see thanks for explaining. > > > > I had read all the AGESA boards were going to be removed, besides the > > asus D8/D16 those are the last and best

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:31 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Ah I see thanks for explaining. > > I had read all the AGESA boards were going to be removed, besides the > asus D8/D16 those are the last and best owner controlled x86 boards. > Is there a current list of boards to be

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Timothy Pearson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/23/2017 04:29 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Ah I see thanks for explaining. > > I had read all the AGESA boards were going to be removed, besides the > asus D8/D16 those are the last and best owner controlled x86 boards. > Is there a current

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread taii...@gmx.com
Ah I see thanks for explaining. I had read all the AGESA boards were going to be removed, besides the asus D8/D16 those are the last and best owner controlled x86 boards. Is there a current list of boards to be removed? -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread ron minnich
I am always sad to see boards go away, especially since it means that the amount of coreboot I still have code in is smaller by the month, but ... there's a real opportunity cost to keeping old boards in. We've had cases where a new, useful feature has to be implemented as a config variable since

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Aaron Durbin via coreboot
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Felipe Sanches wrote: > Is there an index of which was the latest git commit for each removed board > ? > That would help anyone interested in working on them in the future. It is > not strictly necessary, but would certainly make life

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Felipe Sanches
Is there an index of which was the latest git commit for each removed board ? That would help anyone interested in working on them in the future. It is not strictly necessary, but would certainly make life easier. And it can't be that hard to update a wiki page (or something equivalent) any time

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread Nico Huber
Hi, On 23.08.2017 06:00, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Just because a board lacks active developers doesn't mean that no one is > using it. right, and we won't stop anybody from using them in the future. Please keep in mind, when a board is removed from the tree that only means that the people

Re: [coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-23 Thread szbn...@gmail.com
2017-08-23 6:00 GMT+02:00 taii...@gmx.com : > Just because a board lacks active developers doesn't mean that no one is > using it. > As a layman I simply can't understand as to how all these seemingly > insignificant improvements such as CBMEM in ramstage make it worth removing >

[coreboot] How is depreciating 95% of coreboot boards worth it for such minor improvements?

2017-08-22 Thread taii...@gmx.com
Just because a board lacks active developers doesn't mean that no one is using it. As a layman I simply can't understand as to how all these seemingly insignificant improvements such as CBMEM in ramstage make it worth removing almost every compatible board from the source, including nearly all