Re: [coreboot] Intel ME what is it? And when did this dangerous thing get installed?

2018-09-04 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! Peter thank you for explaining the issue completely and thoroughly. Now that we've reached the issue where we know why the dratted thing is present, it is safe to say that this issue is finished as far as I am concerned. - Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the

Re: [coreboot] Intel ME what is it? And when did this dangerous thing get installed?

2018-09-04 Thread John Keates
(I cut out the large amount of text to prevent the mail length from growing to the extreme) Basically, if money and time were no issue, you had one real blocking issue preventing you from just buying an Intel CPU and building a system around it: legal reasons. Intel does not give anyone the

Re: [coreboot] Intel ME what is it? And when did this dangerous thing get installed?

2018-09-04 Thread Peter Stuge
Philipp Stanner wrote: > I might have one: What does stop a motherboard-vendor from just buying > a CPU and implementing it? It just isn't the common case anymore, if it ever was. Platform vendors (Intel and AMD) move away from that use case. No high-end x86 machines are intended to be created

Re: [coreboot] Intel ME what is it? And when did this dangerous thing get installed?

2018-09-03 Thread John Keates
> On 3 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Philipp Stanner wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 29.08.2018, 04:09 -0400 schrieb Youness Alaoui: >> If there are more specific questions that you have, ask them and I >> might be able to answer them! > > I might have one: What does stop a motherboard-vendor from just

Re: [coreboot] Intel ME what is it? And when did this dangerous thing get installed?

2018-09-03 Thread Philipp Stanner
Am Mittwoch, den 29.08.2018, 04:09 -0400 schrieb Youness Alaoui: > If there are more specific questions that you have, ask them and I > might be able to answer them! I might have one: What does stop a motherboard-vendor from just buying a CPU and implementing it? Which chips, beside the CPU, do

Re: [coreboot] Intel ME what is it? And when did this dangerous thing get installed?

2018-08-29 Thread Youness Alaoui
I think there's a good explanation of it in the FAQ of the libreboot project here : https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intelme If there are more specific questions that you have, ask them and I might be able to answer them! On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:36 AM Gregg Levine wrote: > > Hello! > Would one

[coreboot] Intel ME what is it? And when did this dangerous thing get installed?

2018-08-29 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! Would one of you, or even any of you please take some time out of your busy schedule and ponder the subject? And of course try to respond accordingly? Bootguard sadly I am familiar with, but the Intel ME product I confess I understand a portion about it. And not enough to mention here.